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MemberFacehuggerMar-15-2017 7:11 AMWhen the SXSW news about the preview came out, there was a scene where David and Oram were talking and David says how he is a zoologist and he is creating the "perfect" organism.
David also says that "they are waiting for mother" This means that the eggs have a "mother" that lays them, It also means that this "mother" is alive but Dormant for some reason.
Tell me your thoughts below :)
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MemberPraetorianMar-16-2017 1:37 AMLol!Yeah I know what you mean ali81.That or possibly like The Fly.
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BigDave
MemberDeaconMar-16-2017 1:57 AMWell i will latter have another interesting thread as such after ninXeno426 i think Shaw has to be key to any Experiments David has been doing.
Black Goo could evolve Shaw into something else..
Which i found Dane Hallet's concept work he released a few months back was interesting... surely shows what we could assume could come from the Black Goo they each have a potential Alien/Prometheus Aethstic to them and Dane is one of the main Creature Designers for Alien Covenant.
Was these just a brain storm of what may had been, or just some Fan Made attempts by Dane of what could have been but has no relation to the movie.
I certainly liked where his mind was going when he did these.... and if he has come up with something a bit different but loosely along the same lines..
i.e Female + Black Goo =
It would be interesting..
The other option would be to extract some of Shaws Eggs and use the Black Goo on those.
OR....
Replicate the Trillobite Experiment.
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ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianMar-16-2017 2:10 AMExcellent artwork BigDave,I haven't seen those yet.I've read the reports from the visit to the set.There it was acknowledged that some artwork had been seen that perhaps indicated that something horrible has indeed befallen Elizabeth Shaw.It also said it could also have been possible direction though,but I certainly do believe Shaw is indeed the key to David's experiments.I believe it most likely stems from her giving birth to the trilobite and the umbilical cord.I firmly believe the black guys is indeed part of her DNA.
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MuzzleNZ
MemberFacehuggerMar-16-2017 2:22 AM@BigDave - the image at the top left (particularly the hands) to me looks similar to what is walking up the stairs behind the hanging headphones in the trailer. Could that be Shaw?
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MemberDeaconMar-16-2017 2:31 AMWho knows...
I think one thing to remember was indeed this movie has had a lot of work done on it as far as Drafts, and even after getting a Final Draft done in 2014 where from October on wards was the process of getting the Story Fleshed out as far as ideas for visually how they would make the Story work... (which is when seems the Source i had, had information) to then the main Concept Artist coming on board from October-November 2014
A lot of work and planning was started on the Prometheus Sequel after then..... until the Summer of 2015 John Logan came on board and did 3-4 rewrites and we ended up with Alien Covenant.
So we cant be sure how many ideas as far as Plot, and Concept work had been worked on and then dropped after the John Logan Re-write..
Even those who worked on the movie that Officially came out and gave information but only limited to what they can say... thats Wayne Haag and Dane Hallet have both said they dont know how much of the work they had done will or will-not make it to the movie.
Things change, get cut get dropped and even after shooting has finished a lot can change in the VFX after and added scenes or removed scenes etc.
There was some differences between Spaights and Lindeloffs Drafts and also so many concept works on from Alien: Engineers to Prometheus that did not make it into the movie.
And so the same could be with this movie... we dont know how drastically they had a U-Turn with Alien Covenant.
So that Shaw Concept Work that was refered to like some of Gigers Work, could have been a idea they had... that has now been dropped, or changed and toned down... or it may be part of the movie still
But the Set reports can confirm that at very least, yes this was surely one idea they had for Shaw.. the case now is how similar is her true fate... i guess we find out in 10 weeks.
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MemberNeomorphMar-16-2017 2:41 AMindeed, from what iv read, seen and viewed in the Prometheus blu ray extras, ridley is being very cautious and secretive, esp when it comes to the creatures. no one was allowed into the creature design room and id wager AC has been the same. I think shaw is something else and their keeping her totally under wraps for the movie coming out. she will most definitely, imo, have a huge role to play in davids experiments
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MemberFacehuggerMar-16-2017 4:37 AMIf my theory on what happend to Shaw is correct, and my theory about "mother", then Shaw could become "mother" or something that births eggs. ;)
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MemberFacehuggerMar-16-2017 6:01 AMI think the eggs were "grown". its a far bet, but I'm going to go with that.
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MemberFacehuggerMar-16-2017 6:42 AM@BigDave. Good stuff on your assessment of the scene with David serving up Oram for alien lunch.
My thought that (I conjured this of nowhere while getting a pedicure..) had is what if David and by default Weyland knew what the black goo was? Maybe they didn't understand what it did or how it worked but they knew what it was.
This would explain, why David said "Great things have small beginnings" before he put the goo in Holloway's drink. If he didn't have a good clue what it was, for all he knew he could have been poisoning (and thereby) killing the whole crew with some sort of alien bacteria, nerve agent, or Arby's secret sauce.
No, I had a feeling that he knew what he was taking when he retrieved a canister of the stuff from the Juggernaut. He knew what he was doing when he tainted the drink. Is it possible that the Weyland corporation knew about this stuff beforehand...?
Just my thoughts.
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MemberOvomorphMar-16-2017 8:38 AMThe eggs are waiting for M.U.T.H.E.R to come, and load them up for study and use in the bio weapons division
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MemberFacehuggerMar-16-2017 8:53 AM@ Slab_bay
I wasn't talking about the computer.
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