Walter name origin,

Hmm when talking about german names and a 'ruler of the army' I would have expected Adolf not Walter somehow :D

I was referring to Germany's history in regards to the pivotal battle won in the Teutoburg Forest 2000 years ago. European (and arguably most western tongue) language would be much different had this battle resulted in a different outcome.

John Denver's real name was German. Henry John Deutschendorf Jr. (professionally known as John Denver) was born December 31, 1943 in Roswell, New Mexico.

Is there a German connection in the canon novelizations for Alien that might explain this if it is anything? I'm rereading the novelizations now and can answer this soon but not soon enough.

"... the name Armina is a common German baby name...", seriously? XD

I'm a german living in germany and never met an Armina.

I mean no offense but where did you get that from, Ingeniero?

I've led myself to believe they chose the name Walter by first retroactively rationalizing the use of the name David to be an homage to one of the fathers of the franchise, in David Giler. Thereafter, it was straightforward for them to select Walter in homage to Walter Hill, who IINM, introduced Ash to the original story.

Maybe indeed we are not getting WalterMorph but Sir King Waltermorph.

But indeed interesting find, and who knows if there is a meaning to that Name or its Coincidence?   For example Walter is used because of Walter Hill but then we have no confirmation that David 8 was due to David Giler

So its surely something to debate about, as David is from the Jewish King as far as Origins goes too. Also means Beloved which clearly David 8 may feel he was not.

No offense taken Tiwaz. You're right, that is internet sourced fluff in response to this.

@Ingeniero Ah, I see. Well, "alles Bekloppte" then. ;)

Jesus, Ingeniero, you are dangerous. :D

Let me add your copy of this Inquisitor Fifield message here. The word autistic appears again:

Yep i best be on best behavior in-case Ingeniero has a screen grab of the offensive Banner on my Topic the other day lol

Joking aside (yes was not me as you cant edit Banners without Mod Privileges) indeed he offers some compelling Evidence ;)

Still have no idea what u are trying to imply , only that my first comment here that you quoted was like 2months ago and regarded to a 'KingDieSektor' http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/43446  

link to the youtube video with the comment since u seem to be pretty good with image editing..

Ati, not at all. I created a YouTube account with the first dozen videos and the only place I posted a link to the YouTube account was on this forum.

That day, I had two comments, one from Japan and the other from Germany. The one from Japan was nice. The other was from Armina. The math was easy when the foul language is habitual and consistent.

That dont mean they could be the same Person though.... and i do think that comment was made towards KingDieSektor but i do get your point ;)

Armina 1

Armina 2

Interesting information about Walter.

Here's my question: Does Walter/David really want to rule the Xenomorphs? 

I never really got that vibe from David.

Germany? Uh oh! Wasn't me! lol

Arminius was a chieftain of the Germanic Cherusci tribe and a former officer in the Roman military. Arminius used his knowledge of Roman tactics to lead an allied coalition of Germanic tribes to a decisive victory against three Roman legions and their auxiliaries in the historic Battle of the Teutoburg Forest, in 9 AD.

Modern historians have regarded Arminius's victory as "Rome's greatest defeat"[1] and one of the most decisive battles in history.[2][3][4][5][6][7] During the Unification of Germany in the 19th century, Arminius became hailed by nationalists as a symbol of German unity and freedom.[8]

Following World War II, however, schools often shunned the topic since it had become associated with the militant nationialism of the Third Reich, and many modern Germans have not heard about Arminius.[8] The 2000th year anniversary of the battle was not commemorated by the German government.[8]

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ARMINIUS and ARMINA

Some weeks ago I got the same words from dr.swojd in a personal message: ...kill yourself obsessed reta...

So there is a high probability that Inquisitor Fifield, dr.swojd, the choco dildomorph anomaly performer troll and Armina Keum are the same person? You hint that, Ingeni?

Could the name be from Walter the Wobot...the service droid from Judge Dredd in 2000AD?  Every time I read Walter I think of Walter.  Walter was servile and domesticated.

Ha Ha ATI

The only way to disprove that was if they was all in the same Location at the Same Time lol

Mind you in Comics and on Film we had TWO Supermen and a Superman and Clarke in the Same Location LOL

To sum it up, since the name from youtube is a female name, we have just discovered that Inquisitor Fifield is a female person??? You hint that, Ingeni?

Ingeniero, aren't you a detective? :)

i just realized the name 'Armina Keum' sounds an awful lot like and maybe is a ambiguious wordplay of the common turkish&arabic insult 'Amina Koyim' (found this while googling i dont understand a word what hes saying)

are you saying that to me or what?

Ok i can take it, and I'll pass it right towards Ati, who keeps on narrating something of Doctors and Dildos since weeks and i havent got a clue wtf he or she wants from me :D

Dave, this is a four in one pack. :D

One more fact, Ingeniero. One day before dr.swojd got banned, her avatar changed to an image showing the rainbow flag burning or something similar. This obvious opinion about gay people can be explained by the discovery regarding the armina-arminius-german nationalists connection.

Congratulations, Ingeniero! :) You solved the enigma.

Why are you insulting germans all the time?

Are you germophobe racists?

Don't think he's insulting Germany Fifield

*grins shaking his head* Oh je.... 

No, Armina, I'm not. :) It's too late to try to manipulate the others, don't you think?

still waiting for a link to the alleged video/comment, so try to troll me all you want kids

*also who, without an autistic disorder, would ever use his real name for a youtube troll or insult account?

Stan Winston (deceased), thank you for that. I didn't realize that regarding the writers names David Giler and Walter Hill. Excellent connection.

I'd have taken that slam about Canadians personally, but I'm Blackfoot first and foremost and do NOT Identify as 'canadian', for the reason why...have a look at History.

assuming for the people of a certain area of being overly polite isnt an insult, just a negative compliment.

man i can literally feel right now, how you slightly obsessive personalities are scouring through my comment history to make out some more 'proofs' at this very moment. right Ati? :D

Inquisitor Fifield

'Negative compliment'

that sounds like something a politician would claim to defend their actions/statements.

Foxxy_User, I'm not sure about David 8 or Walter ruling the xenomorphs.

I am very interested in seeing the connection with "We are Walter" and how Walter interacts with others of his kind. 

Walter's Biometric Regulation encompasses automatic updates. This is another clue toward something of a hive mind or consciousness connected to each other to share updates or new knowledge.

If David 8 were to use Walter (because he may be constructed in part of DNA) to create a biomechanical xenomorph, then this xenomorph could possibly talk to others (with Walter's gifts, control them?) and carry the human knowledge that was harnessed inside Walter.

That is why I focused on the Walter name origin in regards to leading the army. What army?

The names are extremely important to the Order that Dr. Shaw was secretly part of.  The Order of St. Thomas believes that naming something gives you power over it.  Sir Weyland needed a "true believer" from the other human faction aboard the Prometheus, because he wanted one of their members to bear witness to what David experienced:  any type of spiritual reward would be lost on David since he's a goddamn robot.

NASA's "Apollo" program took to the stars and made initial contact with the lunar goddess about their "Endeavor" for the "Discovery" of "Atlantis."  Most of NASA's space crafts have been named after Greek concepts and ideas...  it's only fitting the company continues the tradition, naming one of their ships the Prometheus and one of their colonies Olympia.  The company tried finding Atlantis at one point, but it was fruitless. 

Space has been privatized by the megacorps, yet W-Y honors the initial voyages made by Apollo.  Prometheus is just another reference to Greek myth and fits with the company's tradition of naming things after stuff like that. They were gonna go with Magellan because many of their ships have a nautical theme.  But the religious faction that Dr. Shaw was part of responded better to Prometheus, taking the bait.  Don't worry about Dr. Shaw, she's in a better place now.  Hades has dragged Shaw down to "the underworld" with him, on his yacht.  She's currently floating on one of the rivers of the underworld:  the River Lethe (or the River of Memory)... 

Come now, my friends; let us be civil. There is no need to allow interesting discourse to devolve into unpleasantries. We each have a unique voice; it is better to be heard and considered rather than spurned. :)

"Sir Weyland needed a "true believer" from the other human faction aboard the Prometheus, because he wanted one of their members to bear witness to what David experienced:  any type of spiritual reward would be lost on David since he's a goddamn robot."

Correct all the way CarynDelacroix. I believe I read where Ridley Scott had nine consulting scientists around him at a point during the Prometheus production and he asked who had faith. I think four of them raised their hands.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/06/04/lets-contact-aliens-sir-ridley-scott-says.html

When David 8 was saying goodbye and "have a good journey" to Peter Weyland, you get a clear picture of what David 8 thinks of an afterlife. Yes, to him there is nothing and anything spiritual would be lost on him. 

Peter Weyland would most certainly welcome any advise, spiritual or otherwise, that could bring him closer to cheating death.

If a Christian scientist (such as Dr. Elizabeth Shaw) could provide any tool for Peter Weyland, he would most certainly use it.

Ati, thank you for the background on the Battle of Teutoburg Forest. I brought this up because Ridley Scott mentioned the Romans during this general time period in relation to the attack on LV-223.

Any historical connection mentioned above is in relation to "Rome's greatest defeat" at Teutoburg Forest and Ridley Scott mentioning the Romans in his historical Alien timeline.

"I believe I read where Ridley Scott had nine consulting scientists around him at a point during the Prometheus production and he asked who had faith. I think four of them raised their hands"

One of the people they consulted with was a linguistics expert who helped create the Engineer language.  I'm more aware of the linguistic side of things than anything else, although I'm not sure if he's one of the people who was around Ridley then.

I'm looking at it from an insider and outsider perspective, in a way, because I can't be completely certain about where they're planning on going with some of the concepts/ideas they began developing before (and shortly after) Prometheus.  The Order of St. Thomas is an idea that originated in the comics/books: it's something that Fox may or may not still be interested in developing in the films.  They're the only other faction out there who has ships that are as fast as the Company's.

Linguistic anthropologists conduct cross-cultural linguistic studies, like David did in Prometheus, to understand which languages and groups are related.  Language itself forms a central part of culture, while economic systems & subsistence practices help form what can be considered the culture's core.

In Canada, archaeologists are a little more concerned about the environment and will try to preserve it and mitigate destruction of cultural history.  They've come a long way since colonial times:  anthropology began as a way to study the indigenous cultures who became part of the British, French, Dutch, and Spanish Empires.  There's a bloody history behind archaeology..  It all started in colonial times, and now the Company (which is British in origin) is spreading its colonies all throughout the Universe.

OMG I found another horrible Inquisitor Fifield comment, I feel compelled to post it!