Why do people hate Prometheus so much?

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Not Bad.... Some Wasted Opportunity.. but Great Potential.

Love the Reply from Jump the Gun Spartacus shame he had it in for me and a few others, great ideas and was very committed to the site, sadly could not take criticism and you kind of had to agree with everything they said... still miss many of there debates though ;)

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To those who are concerned about seeing movie

And i think those are actually very valid posts on the movie, it has grown on my with the more i saw it and its actually the Mystery and Things it leaves open, that left the movie open to debate and interpretations... if it was full of answers i am sure this Forum would have far far less posts.

Not sure of this ideal place to put this...

Saves me making a Thread on it... This was a Supposed Prometheus Plot i was sent in 2012 and was Early May 2012

See if you guys think this sounded a better movie, bit funny as this so called version which i think was fake, does nicely tie into potentially the Plot for Alien Covenant.

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The film begins with a quote from the bible stating, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth' and then we see a space shot of Earth, the planet looks different, almost covered with ice and the subtitle reading Earth: 500,000 B.C. Large flying saucers appear hovering over our planet. We then get a quick glimpse inside some kind of alien room with a live hologram of the planet and we see a large hand reaching out for it. We then see these ships arriving on Earth and landing near a waterfall. After some credits we then skip to outside the craft and we see some kind of URN standing on the grass outside. These beings then kidnap some indiginous pre-humans and experiment with them, taking their blood. We then watch as several of these pre-humans are set loose outside the craft. They are changing, shedding hair and their physique and structure changes or mutates. We then see inside their bodies and watch as their DNA begins to change. These now mutated pre-humans who are turning human i think watch the crafts leave.

We then skip to Earth: 35,000 B.C and the crafts return once again. This time they enslave the humans and we see some scenes that feature humans inside some structure like pryamid kneeling down and handing baskets of golds and gifts to some unseen giant beings whom are sitting on thrones. We see a shot of the pyramids of Egypt and Central America and the Nazca lines and mountain holes. We then skip to Earth: 10,000 B.C. One of these beings can be seen wearing some sort of funny looking suit with a really weird looking nose (At first I thought that is how they look and found it dumb but i put my concerns to the side after learning what they were exactly). One of these beings is looking over its human slaves in Sumeria. It then spots a child creating fire using rocks and spotting humans speaking to one another and it i think gets angry about humans being intelligent.

We then cut to a night time scene and see these crafts hovering over some of the civilization cities it created and burning them to the ground before leaving. We get a nice space shot of the crafts leaving Earth and we can see the planet Earth behind them. There are dozens mabye hundreds of small firery holes everywhere. That is when we cut to a space shot of a spaceship named the prometheus travelling through space. we get a small subtitle of the name of the ship, details on how many crew and its mission and its destination (sorry forgotten the name of the star system). We then see inside some very nice looking room and a very weird looking man with a very bad haircut named David playing PRELUDE FOR PIANO NO. 15 IN D FLAT MAJOR, OP. 28 NO. 15 (i know it very well). As the music plays we see several cuts of him walking around the ship by himself. He does things like play chess by himself, paint minature figurines, inject himself with some weird milk substance, play basketball, goes into some cafeteria and sets up chairs and table, sets up a coffee machine, checks the ships computers and power, sits on a chair staring at a wall, walking around some more, sets up chairs in the same place he played basketball before going into a dark room with some kind of sleeping pods with people inside. He goes to a womans and puts on some kind of goggle/helmet device and enters the dream of a woman named Elizabeth shaw. In the dream we see the woman being in the highlands of some country which looks like new zealand to me. She is there with her boyfriend i persume and they find a very old cave with some interesting cave paintings.

After waking everyone up we get to know all of them. Shaw and her (very annoying) boyfriend are really sick and we learn theyve been asleep for years (I hate that whole concept. Thats why i stay away from scifi) We meet Snow whites nemisis who is revealed to own the ship and funded the whole thing. It turns out its also christmas and they all celebrate before being taken to the gym where we see a hologram of an old dude who really has no point in being in this film. I was also surprised it was Guy Pearce; found that out later during end credits. Shaw and her BF explain that for years they have been following every ancient civilization and come to the conclusion that a race of beings came to earth long ago and they found a star map leading to this star system. And this star system it turns out was already being watched by the company years prior but found no reason to travel there untill the BF/GF found a star map. They land on this planet, find more than one seemingly intelligent structure type pyramids and prepare to enter. It turns out that David knows a secret about Shaw but we dont find out what it is till later and she makes him promise not to tell anyone.

Another scene involves David approaching the evil woman; Vickers i believe, and asks her about a room on the ship that he cant gain access too and she even hits him and pins him against a wall and warns him to back off. As they set out to one of these structures they find a way inside and find out there is oxygen inside. They find some very strange things including a giant head and a pile of dead alien bodies. they find a decapitated being (the same ones from the start of the film) and take its head in a bag. Shaws BF finds a bowl and some sort of worm things attach to his suit without him knowing. As they head back to the ship a storm hits them. After returning to the ship they find out that inside this head is another head????? David examines an URN he brought back and finds some kind of gooey stuff inside and runs a scan on it. Vickers enters the room David was talking about and inside is another sleeping pod. It is then revealed this is the reason why her room is using so much power. It is that old man who is dead! But wait! to my complete and total shock, which i found laughable, is that she brings him back to life using a remote control device LMAO. She enters the examination with the old man who is revealed to only be alive for 15 minutes. He congrats everyone and then suddenly the head which looks human explodes and its acid blood burns everything. The gooey stuff is revealed to be some kind of DNA rewritting thing that can turn anything into a living organism.

Sometime later after a few scenes here and there including a make out session between our female hero and her BF. It is revealed later that the BF has something inside his eye. the captain of the ship calls everyone to the deck. It is then revealed that some floating balls have picked up sings of a life form inside the deep dark tunnels beneath the structure and even found what appears to be a space craft. Vickers is against going in surprisingly but the old man persuades them to do so. The second crew inclouding the captain this time go back inside. After going through the tunnels they arrive at some kind of storage facility lol no joke. They then encounter a black swamp and some kind of snake like creature which looks pretty cute. It then snaps at them but they leave it alone and leave. they then venture into another tunnel and arrive at the ship. After entering through a hole they find large beings standing by the walls not moving for some reason. they find a room which has pods like the human sleeping pods. David activates a holographic mapping device. David stays as others wonder about. the same snake thing arrives again and attacks a crew members with a really weird haircut and tattoos. Another crew member, shaws BF faints and begins showing signs of some sort of infected probably caused by the little worm things. the tattood mowhawk guy then struggles to get this thing off which is really doing some nasty shit to him under his suit. It then explodes inside his helmet causing it to melt into his face. This scene really freaked me out. Shit then starts to happen, wall painting appear all around them and change like a slideshow.David is confronted by a giant unseen being. the mohawk guy is dragged into the black water by something. The crew grab Shaws BF and leave.

After returning to ship vickers doesnt let them enter but is talked down by the captain. Shaws BF is looked after as everyone gets their shit together. shaw then really annoys me by stating she wants to stay on the planet to find out the Answer to our creation. The captain goes into Davids computer and discovers he was hiding a secret he learned whilst everyone was asleep; shaw is 7 weeks pregnant. Shaw then begins to feel sick and is taken to a medical capsule of some sort. It turns out some sort of mutation in her body (i have no idea how she got infected) is causing the fetus to grow rapidly. She gives birth to some ugly looking creature which is taken away. It manages to escape causing the captain and others to hunt it down. back on the alien ship David is spared by this being who realises he is not human. It then shows him stuff via holograms of who they are, where they came from and it turns out they arent the beings who created us after all. They are androids like David and their creators are intelligent giant humanoids with banana shaped heads and these alien androids were punished for giving mankind too much freedom and technology and had a war with their creators. These alien androids have been trying to recreate their own androids/clones that resemble their creators but failed which led to their own kind being destroyed instead by their creation. The android alien takes pitty on David and infects him with something before sending him on his way.

Meanwhile on the prometheus this creature shaw has given birth to has grown up and kills some crew members. Down at the cargo bay the mohawk guy returns but is a mutated monster. It kills several crew members; and in one violent scene hacks one to peices using a hatchet. It then opens their mouths and inserts some worm like mutated tongue down int otheir throat inserting something into their stomachs. The dead crew members then mutate and kill others. A huge fire fight with guns and flame throwers come to screen more most of the time in some very tense scenes.

The old man unfortunately is revived and protected by his small group of hench men who at the start were revealed to be engineers but turn out to be weyland ex colonial marines or something like that. shaw is attacked by this thing she had given birth to and kills it using an axe. He BF who is now awake is mutated into a monster and she kills him too. She is now broken, hurt and scarred and at this point i like her now, she's more tougher now. lots of action, gore and death follows. David contacts the crew and against vickers orders shaw sets out to rescue him. After more gore and death scenes and mutation the old man, some scottish woman and some hired guns also flee to the alien ship with Shaw. In the ship David approaches them and tells them about his new friend but begs them not to interfeir with it or try and harm it as it has no qurals with humans. He explains he can ask it to take the survivors home. David meets with the being and it sets up its pilot chair to take them home But after one of the hired guns fires at it in fear it kills him and chases the others through the ship and structure tunnels where it then kills the other hired gun and the scottish woman.

David and the old man enter the alien ship and reach the hologram room. The old man reveals they must try and use the alien ship to leave but david warns against it by warning that stealing their ship may cause an interstellar war but the old man ignores him. David tries to stop him but is killed by the old man who shoots him many times. The old man climbs into this cannon type chair and a suit begins closing in around him sealing him into the chair as the room begins to glow with holograms. David whom is still active but unable to move looks up at him in horror.

on the prometheus the captain and vickers are the only ones left and try and avoid and struggle to survive against their ex crew members who are now mutants who are constantly changing and slowly morphing into something else. shaw arrives on the surface but is contacted by David who is still active but unable to move. He tells Shaw what is happening and reveals that on board this alien vessel is a biomechanical weapon that these beings created by accident that may wipe out our species if the ship travels to earth. Shaw contacts the prometheus as the ground opens up and as the alien craft lifts off. she begs the captain to stop it or else. The captian sets a course for the rising alien craft in an epic kamakazi type sacrafice. Both he and Vickers get to an escape pod and eject and later land. vickers then risks her life to save the fleeing shaw and leaves the pod to rescue her. The prometheus collides with the alien craft sending it crashing to the ground in an epic scene. Shaw and Vickers make it back to safety.

They then take off using the escape pod which is revealed can hold them in their sleeping pods for over 50 years. They are now in space and things seem settled and calm but they ain't. The 8-10 foot android alien thing is on board and kills the captain. vickers and shaw then fight this thing and it turns out Vickers was good after all and that surprised me, usually these types of characters are bad guys but she was good in the end and it also turns out she is that old guys daughter (and hates him) who wanted this mission to find nothing so his empire falls . Vickers however is revealed to be infected. She is attacked and brutally maimed by this being but in the end Shaw kills it with an axe no less. Vickers whom not only dying but is mutating pleads, 'Kill me. Kill me. Mercy!' and shaw screams and cuts her head off. She sets the course on the escape pod which wont even have enough power to last the journey home. with the sleeping pods disabled Shaw begins to pray but soon gives it up claiming why should she pray to something that tried to kill her. In a beautifully shot scene we follow shaw into the sleeping pod as she prepares to go to sleep. she has a flash back of being with her religious father who died in africa and she then drifts to sleep. Screen fades to black but then we are catapulted into a new scene.

Shaw awakes seemingly fine inside a medical pod surrounded by doctors. She is frightened and attacks them before escaping. she is caught and brought back. It is revealed she is on a ship named the Magellan. On board a man approaches the scared and confused Shaw and reveals himself to be the C.E.O of Weyland-yutani and that it has been 15 years since the prometheus was launched. It is revealed that everything they recorded was automatically sent back to the company. When Shaw asks where are they, the man shows her a scroll of murals and a star map and claims that the beings they encountered were mearly just tools used by a greater craftsman and that they have found their creators home world. It is then revealed that not only this ship but a full colony of ships are heading off towards this 'planet of gods'. We then zoom into a mural drawing of the android aliens creator and OUR CREATOR which is humanoid with a long narrow banana shaped head. The film ends.

that would have been an altogether VERY interesting movie to see!

I made the topic for to hear other people's opinions about Prometheus not irrelevant things that don't have nothing to do about the topic. 

It has it's flaws.  I think it just comes down to whether the overall movie outweighs those flaws.  And for some people, it might not.

Also, people had a lot of expectations for the movie, some of which were possibly too high, and the movie didn't meet these expectations.  For example, some people didn't like the fact that there weren't many xenomorph-esque creatures.  

Frankly I think it just wasn't some people's cup of tea.  For instance, I know some people (not big 'Alien' fans) who could sit through other Alien movies that couldn't sit through Prometheus.  These are the kind of people who have to have some kind of action happening every 5 minutes in movies or they're not interested.  So yeah, not much "action" = not as commercially appealing to some.  Also, the length of the movie only added to this lack of appeal.  And I think some people just found the movie just downright confusing.  

Lastly, I think it was most appealing to hardcore Alien fans.  Having seen all the Alien movies before Prometheus, I was looking at it from the POV of an Alien fan.  So I can't say what Prometheus would have looked like to someone unfamiliar with any of the Alien media, but I'm sure that played a part.  I'm not saying Prometheus isn't a great movie in its own right... it definitely is.  And the concept of "meeting your maker" is also very interesting in its own right, and I'm sure I would have still been wowed at the end, had I not already been an Alien fan.  But I'm sure the context of other Alien movies/media added something to the "big picture" of Prometheus and the questions it was trying to answer that just didn't impact non-Alien fans as much.  

I don't personally know anyone who watched the whole movie and hated it, but I have seen the movie get a lot of "hate" online, if that makes sense.  Some of the criticism is warranted.  For example, leaving it up to the audience to figure things out and put certain pieces together a little too often.  David's motivations for infecting Holloway come to mind, among others.  Granted, it is a fine line trying to decide what information/scenes to keep or cut from a movie and exactly how much information to give out, especially when the movie is just a piece of a larger puzzle.  And I know pacing and length are factors in that decision as well.  But I feel like the movie could have used a little more clarity overall.

Despite its flaws, I love it.  By far, one of my favorite parts of Alien was the exploration of the derelict, and Prometheus expanded on that aspect.  And despite the hate Prometheus got, I personally know some people who weren't big Alien fans before they saw it, but after they saw it they immediately became hooked on the Alien franchise.  So while I think some of the criticism is warranted, I still think the overall impression of the movie is a good one.  Also, everything is always going to be hated by SOMEONE.  You can't ever please everyone.  

I have to say, PROMETHEUS did somewhat re-ignite my love of the ALIENverse. It was a return to the Darkness, where NO help is coming and scary, unfathomable things/elements/story-elements are involved. I loved the visuals, and Fassbender really added some depth to the Synthetic character role which will likely influence many if not all future actors/actresses portraying Synthetics.

It returned to the 'feel' of the ALIENverse as originally laid as a foundation by R. Scott and O'Bannon, Schussett, etc. all those years ago.
Thus because of the 'feel' I can and do tend to overlook the flaws/accept them but will also admit that I share many of the common complaints about the movie.

Let's just hope that Alien Covenant will fix some of the confusing plot holes.

The Gaps, yeah...I think most of the fanbase is hoping for that, for answers to questions we've had for quite a long time now.

My only complaint was how criminally under-utilised Idris Elba was lol.

And i wanted more Deacon/Trilobite! A facehugger leaping from an egg is one thing, imagine have a friggin giant squid-spider chase you down a dark corridor hahha

Other than that, loved it.

Edit: yeah i always wondered why they bothered making Guy Pearce old, it looked fake and crap, should've just hired actual old fella instead. 

Agreed on Elba, though he did make good use of what screen time he got :)

Trilobite, yeah, so much more could have been done with it and the Deacon !! :D

1. Cast was ok David was brilliant Shaw was ok but no Ripley. The rest were ok but it's what they did that made them awful.

2 acting was ok to some was pretty bad but again David was a great character.

Well it's true there was a lot of people expecting something way better after all it's Ridley doing probably his best genre. 

3 the story idea was great but the execution was painful to watch. It was like watching Scooby and shaggy trying to work out the meaning of life as people liken it to...

4. Yes that is what we expected and that's good but there so many better ways again coming back to the Scooby show way of it playing out.

5. Yes but it needs to answer a few too...this is a big one as well it was spoilt buy the strange way it was all put together.

6.Ridley may have made some of the best films ever but that doesn't mean he can't drop a changer now and again or even constantly...he is very old now. I'm just amazed he can still handle these things. Almost always directors go off the boil as such is very rare to keep the bar so high...Anyway fingers crossed he's done a classic this time round.

"Edit: yeah i always wondered why they bothered making Guy Pearce old, it looked fake and crap, should've just hired actual old fella instead. "

The hired him to play young Weyland, then cut the young Weyland scenes.

1.The cast is well picked- some of the cast was well picked, but i wish the film had more or Elba and Captain Janek on screen, every second he was was golden. I feel that the casting of Charlize Theron was a waste as she didnt do much for the story besides be defiant and cast scorn on the mission, they should have used such an actress as her better. Milburn and Fifield and Holloway annoyed me as them and their dialog was awful, i would have like more believable characters. Fassbender as David is outstanding and Shaw was fine although her belief is fine but they could have tweeked how she displayed it, because at times she seemed child like and irrational in the face of everything, but she did ultimately prove very tough and a survivor which i enjoyed. Someone above i think indicated that there was no Ripley and they didn't like that absence. I feel that having Ripley shoehorned into another Alien film universe film would be awful. Alien Resurrection shoe horned her into the the "bag of trash" that was Resurrection. Im glad they left her out, shes over and done she should have been done after Aliens, having her is akin to Die Hard with Bruce Willis you can only do the same concept so many times with the same actor before people lose interest and the quality falls off, plus having her in again makes the story predictable and boring to me. Having all new cast is fresh and was the correct path to take although as i have stated earlier maybe they should have chose a couple of different actors for the roles and worked on the dialog a little in the screen play.

2.The acting was top notch- i liked it all except for Holloway, Fifield and Milburn...i felt they were not the best

3.The story itself was great- liked the story quite a bit and it did answer many of the questions a lot of people said it didnt, you just have to pay attention. The answers are explained through actions and scenes rather than someone's convenient exposition...simply stated people have to use their minds to infer and make conclusions, Ridley often treats his audience as if they are smart enough to figure it out without slowing the movie down to explain everything. I do feel like they could have had more of a sense of awe and bewilderment about finding this alien race...yes i know they went looking for them but at this point no one had ever found or encountered an alien race, i just felt that there should have been something more tonally akin to the scene from Alien when the Nostromo crew find the space jockey.....i mean holy hell you just found proof, corpses and evidence of aliens and another intelligent life form in the universe, where was the awe?? Plus i felt that first half of the movie was rushed i mean they went from finding cave paintings to offloading in the rovers from the Prometheus to the temple in a bout a five minute window, just seemed rushed is all

4.It made the Alien universe much larger...yes it did and i love Prometheus for that, 

5.A great movie is all ways supposed to leave you asking questions...agreed, thats why Alien has inspired and entertained us for decades because there were questions left to the audience, to leave us spell bound and wondering...not everything needs explained and tied up with a bow

6.The man himself Ridley Scott made it so put some respect on his name.

I like Prometheus alot and i find it very re watchable. It is a thinking persons film, and for those people unhappy that a true xeno didnt make an appearance, they clearly didnt pay attention to the interviews and materials and message boards leading up to Prometheus's release. It was made quite clear that Prometheus would not be a xeno movie but it would be obvious that is was set in the same cinematic universe and would be clearly tied to each other.

There were no promises of xeno's so i do not understand the backlash of all the people soooooooo unhappy they arent in the film. The film was designed to be a great sci fi movie that is has connective tissue to Alien and the xeno's without using them in the same movie, there is nothing wrong with that. 

far too many people just want to see explosions or kills in their movies and anything deeper than that is lost on them. I love good action and set peices but it makes it so much better when there are deep concepts at play, and that is why i like the movie Prometheus

I love the movie..it was a great set-up to the prequels.

Prometheus is the best film in the alien franchise

I don't hate it. I love it. It's the best ALIEN film (after the original) and I can't wait to see what Scott and co do with Covenant and onwards.

I only recognize Alien and Prometheus as canon.

I enjoyed the hell out of Prometheus, it was startling in certain ways and quite daring, I think. I also think that so hotly anticipated a film in the age of the Internet was gonna suffer no matter what.

There are already 2 parties, Alien and Aliens. This is not to say everyone falls into one or the other camp, but the camps do exist and reflect 2 different aesthetics. Now comes Prometheus which tried to steer away from both and in doing so created yet 2 more parties, like and dislike.

In the dislike party you have the few who are genuinely disappointed and the rest who will bash anything high profile, and whose hostility is empowered by the internet. I remember watching one reviewer that claimed the only reason he didn't 'walk out' of the theatre was knowing he had to review the film. Really? Was it that bad? Or was this your big chance to be cool?

Prometheus' marketing is partially to blame, almost every money shot was in the trailers, which were converted into GIFS over and over until everyone was able to decipher the storyline and memorize all the key elements. Dismay over the plot was prevalent long before the movie was released despite Ridley being quite clear (I thought) about the direction and intent of the movie.

Yes, it was originally marketed as a direct prequel, but this soon changed and Ridley was consistent with his message about what was happening. His one true downfall with the press was saying he wanted to  'scare the shit out of you', which he may have had more success with if the most disturbing moments hadn't been revealed in the trailers.

Other criticisms were slightly myopic, but people were looking for anything to condemn. SM has stated quite correctly that Shaw and Vickers did try to evade the rolling Juggernaut. Young Weyland was played by Pierce in the viral TED talk and was used for continuity in the movie. Maybe they could have found an elderly actor to play the part but I think Pierce did just fine.

Prometheus is not perfect, but it is unique, an arty post modernist Sci fi blockbuster. I'd rather have that as an addition to the Alien universe than say, a comedy, or a Predator crossover.

@Aorta 

As usual i fully agree with you, while i love the movie Aliens, sometimes choices have to be made, and this film universe works best and is better served  when you only consider Alien and Prometheus as canon. So now it will be Alien, Prometheus, Alien Covenant, and whatever else Ridley will cook up for us in prequels and sequels over the next few years.

I still love Aliens but many elements in it messed up the tone and storytelling of the universe hinted at by the original.

I dont like Alien 3, dont get me started on the pile of smoking caca that is Alien Resurrection, that is god awful and as bad as the AVP crossovers were AR is much much worse in my opinion, just a Ripley shoehorned, over the top cheesy scenes and dialog infested cash grab that i sleep better at night pretending it was never made lol.

yes there are a couple things that could be corrected with Prometheus but over all it is a deep and thinking movie, maybe that is why there is so much hate for it since it isnt just explosion and kills for the millenial masses that prefer to not think with their movies.

I think i will stick with Aorta on this and go with Alien and Prometheus as canon, while i still think Aliens is the 2nd best Aliens movie although i prefer it not be canon if that makes any sense.

 Id rather sacrifice it to save the tone and the cosmic horror hinted at by Alien which it sort of messed up with its story and making the Aliens just dangerous insects.

introducing the real Peter Weyland. Not Guy Pearce.

IRaptus

LOL

Good point! :D