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Ingeniero

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The Engineer Juggernaut is a true War Machine

BigDave, the urns delivery room (below) doesn't necessarily need to be the same room as the pilot's chair and navigation.

One point is the intact navigation board and pilot's chair where the Covenant crew activated the Dr. Shaw hologram below. This is supposedly after the bombardment and the bay door opening is in another area.

There may be multiple rooms (six without the pilot/navigation room) that deliver urns through an opening like this below.

This bay opening is still open (below image) while the pilot's chair and navigation board in the Dr. Shaw hologram room (above image) are still intact on the floor of the chamber.

The floor is intact but the walls are similar to the urn delivery room above. I believe the areas you have marked as "C,D,E" may be the urns' delivery rooms on both arms of the juggernaut. See below enhanced hologram zoom.

The "C,D,E" rooms in your diagram have the same architecture as the urns' delivery room (see below zoomed holograms). Thank you again BigDave for the labeled juggernaut hologram below.

The below image is the left arm (right side of original image). See the similar entry door, walls, and circular floor. See the "D" room in a different image during the hologram turn below.

This hallway connects the compartments with similar door openings shown in the holograms.

David 8 may have stood and watched this attack from one of six rooms like this delivering urns to those below.

 

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I can't thank you enough ObscureMammal for the image above.

Absolutely amazing!

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It would be hard to be more off topic than this AdamPD

 

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If the urns are falling in a double helix pattern (as you suggest OM) it's really symbolic (since it's the structure of DNA). The pathogen will likely break their DNA and transform them - but then they all get electrocuted (somehow)?

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Thank you again chli. The double helix fits with what we have seen with the black goo effects on DNA in Prometheus (below).

The DNA breakdown from the Engineer was from a different application (ingestion from bowl) but David 8 attacks those below with an aerosol black goo from above.

The urns are falling in a double helix and the contents of the urns might be disbursed with this large horn (trumpet) opening that the urns fall in front of.

Does this opening blow the judgment of the urns in a cloud over those below?

There seems to be a black cloud moving over the crowd below and the horn-like opening that the urns fall in front of just might disburse the aerosol black goo.

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Watching this part on repeat, clumps can be seen raining down even in the last still in the upper right corner.

I also wonder about the blunt trauma force of the falling urns themselves?

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dk, tough pick.

Those below can die from blunt force when an urn hits them, or burn to a crisp from close proximity to an urn detonating, or turn into a DNA morphed monster...I'm not sure but the blunt force seems like the most "humane" death from David 8.

 

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Ingeniero Indeed getting fatally hit on the head from a high velocity urn might be considered a merciful death in that situation.

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I doubt- but looking at what look like charred remains, I wonder if the goo is combustible somehow.

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That image of the urns raining down looks incredible! Thanx OM.

The way they're twisting and turning like that reminds me of a magnetic force as well. Definitely must be something to that train of thought …

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So if everything Geiger did was sexual innuendo, what is this like skat? The jockey chair looks like an erect penis with balls. The facehugger is clearly a vagina orifice, outer vagina lips. The juggernaut looks like two legs taking a dump in an open hole below, like skat. The alien is one big moist penis head, don't believe me, look it up, Geiger was into all sorts of kinky, dark, fetish sexual things, that even police questined his art. The Engineer gets it oral and is impregnated in Prometheus, if that is not sexual what is...creation is sexual, its nature. It's like David is shooting a load in Engineer's face or taking a dump on them..it pleases him, it makes him feel big, its gratification.

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In. Your. Face!

… literally ;)

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Given the spiralling pattern we see induced on the urns, and what we have heard R. Scott say about the Engineers having a level of under standing re; Magnetic forces that is very far above our own...I'm thinking the urns fan out, suspended and arranged in the air until they are in Optimum pattern, then detonate in mid air, which would ensure much wider and more efficient coverage of a given target area.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

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Ingeniero: I’m not sure about “the trumpet” but I agree that it is likely that the pathogen becomes an aerosol spreading with the wind and the engineers then inhaling it. They will then mutate, become aggressive and attack each other? This would also affect the whole planet through rainfall, winds and waterways, hence no sounds when The Covenant crew arrives (no birds or other “normal” animals)?

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Oh, I know chli, you're correct.

I keep building on my projections in regards to the weaponry because the visuals become more fantastic as we close in on the movie's release. The DNA-like strand structure of urns dropping over the large opening in the larger ship begs for theory.

Each detail of the Engineer's technology seems to come into focus when David 8 is shown expressing his great disappointment above in what he found out in regards to the Engineer's ways.

Things that may have been unclear in Prometheus are beginning to show their significance in the story.

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In one of the Asian TV spots, you see people dropped dead or turning black as the goo affects them, but this one guy seems to be different, for the few frames that he's in it for, the goo seems to be adding armour or biotech to the guys head, like it's converting him into something else.

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AdamPD, the new TV spots are wild. Here are enhanced images in the sequence you show.

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What you described above Blackwinter-witch is very close if not exactly what is seen in the sequence in Alien: Covenant

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There Certainly seems to be Some Anti Gravitational Force Applied in the Cargo Hold, we could Wonder if this Force/Event is what Activates/Primes the Urns until they are Ready and then Released... this Priming Method is what would Cause them to Explode and then Rain down the Pathogen in the Manner we see in the Bombardment.

Indeed the Internal Layout of the Juggernauts appears to be a Bit Different, but thats NOT to say that NO TWO Ships need to be the Same Internally ;)

I did this for another Topic... where it shows where i assume the Prometheus Crew Enter to the Cargo Hold then Pilot Room.  This image also shows where the Covenant Cargo Bay was and it appears that the Tunnel from this Cargo Bay must Snake Around on a Incline and Leads to the Pilot Room that appears to be at a Higher Level in this Ship.

There is NO Reason why the Ship Internally cant Change Shape/Size and Levels... maybe its NOT beyond the Technology as the Cargo Hold Hole in Alien Covenant does appear from a Area where there is NO such HOLE.... so their Technology maybe allows for the Material to Morph/Change Shape.

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"There is NO Reason why the Ship Internally cant Change Shape/Size and Levels... maybe its NOT beyond the Technology as the Cargo Hold Hole in Alien Covenant does appear from a Area where there is NO such HOLE.... so their Technology maybe allows for the Material to Morph/Change Shape."

The Engineer technology seems to do this BigDave.  

The opening that the urns passes through seems to be the product of multiple layers peeling back, mechanically, folding into perfect recesses.  

The same thing can be said regarding the opening on Planet 4 below.  It is the Engineers' motif. 

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