The Covenant is heading for LV-426. It just isn't called that yet.
Let me to add some extra info...
More clear ... impossible.
Sorry, no offense intended but this reminds me of the "Nostradamus-Community". XD Shoving and pushing letters and numbers til they fit.
Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.
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When I first did this it actually started reminded me of those Illuminati theorists that claim divination through Kabalistic numerology.
In regards to your assessment, I wholeheartedly agree, lol. When I made this, I did set out to prove that Origae-6 was somehow a reference to LV-426. So it is easily a contrivance and nothing more.
I think Michelle Johnston has been championing something much more compelling which is the Helmsman/Charioteer/Waggoner connection.
LV-426 and the gas giant it orbits occupy the Zeta II Reticuli system. It's 39 light years away. It took the Prometheus roughly 2 years to reach it. It would only take the Nostromo 10 months to reach Earth from Z II R, and it's a tugboat. The Covenant would certainly not take 8+ years to get there from Earth. Nor is it likely that David is heading back to Zeta II Reticuli, as the transmission he sends at the end wouldn't make any sense in that case. He wants more humans to come looking for the Covenant so he can lay another trap. The trap's not going to work if they're looking in the wrong place.
Plus, it's extremely unlikely that Weyland-Yutani would have renamed the system "Origae" and sent colonists to it, knowing they already lost an extremely expensive asset in that system.
"LV-426 and the gas giant it orbits occupy the Zeta II Reticuli system. It's 39 light years away. It took the Prometheus roughly 2 years to reach it. It would only take the Nostromo 10 months to reach Earth from Z II R, and it's a tugboat. The Covenant would certainly not take 8+ years to get there from Earth."
I do appreciate you breaking down that travel time for each ship, but it actually only has made me realize that I don't think Ridley cares about detail on that level. There's little to gather from comparing the numbers which tells me he never thought it through (unless I'm just missing the pattern here).
"Nor is it likely that David is heading back to Zeta II Reticuli, as the transmission he sends at the end wouldn't make any sense in that case."
My proposal is that Origae-6 is IN Zeta II and Ridley just isn't paying attention to the details of travel time. It's something he can easily explain away by claiming 'different ships, different travel capabilities'. Would it make sense? No. Does he care? Doubt it.
"He wants more humans to come looking for the Covenant so he can lay another trap. The trap's not going to work if they're looking in the wrong place."
Where in Covenant did we get an indication he was trying to lure more humans to him? If anything it seemed like he was reporting back to let them know, in spite of casualties, the mission is still on course, and there is no need to send help. He didn't say this outright of course, but he also said nothing about requesting assistance, and it was assumed that once the colonists arrived at their destination, they'd be on their own for decades perhaps, as they are establishing an outpost for the future of long distance space travel.
"Plus, it's extremely unlikely that Weyland-Yutani would have renamed the system "Origae" and sent colonists to it, knowing they already lost an extremely expensive asset in that system."
The renaming may be Ridley's doing as a quick cover to hide from the audience that the planet is actually LV-426. He admittedly "cheats" at time to produce the effect he desires. All WY knows is that the Prometheus disappeared. They wouldn't have a reason to believe an entire sector of space is inherently dangerous. For all they know, there was a malfunction on the ship during it's journey and it exploded on the way there. I'll take it a step further though and say MAYBE they heard Shaw's warning message. If anything, they'd probably want to recover whatever they could from the Prometheus expedition and would benefit from establishing an outpost in the same vicinity. This would allow them to use the colony as an outpost to send people a safe yet convenient distance from 223 so that they can travel to and fro, collecting samples of the pathogen, and salvaging the technology.
All that being said, I do admit Origae-6 very well may not be LV-426. But as I said in a previous post, Michelle Johnston has been pointing out that the translation for Origae is Helmsman/Charioteer/Waggoner which could easily be an easter egg indicating that it is the location of the Space Jockey.
Despite David communication at the end of Covenant, he probably isn’t taking the colonists to Origae-6. Why to risk landing to humans well known planet without any population; he long time studied the engineers and their colonies.
Presumably, it's called "Origae (or Aurigae) 6" because it's a star in the constellation Auriga ("The Charioteer"). Auriga is nowhere near Reticulum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auriga_(constellation)
http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/44870
In Aliens, the original screenplay had the Sulaco reaching LV 426 (later called Acheron) in three weeks. I guess travel really improved in 77 years since Covenant lol.
@Bubba Zaneti. Someone is a Mad Max fan lol.
Compelling case. At this point I could see it go either way.
Origae-6 is not in the Zeta II Reticuli system. Not even close. Both LV-426 and LV-223 orbit the same planet in the ZIIR system, a gas giant called Calpamos. There is another moon orbiting the planet, but it as yet has no name. Either way, it certainly wouldn't take Covenant seven years to reach a system it only took Prometheus two years to reach, 10 years before the events of Covenant.
Let's face it, there's currently 18 years between Covenant and Alien 1, so whatever David is planning has plenty of time to reach Origae-6, and back again...
lv426 was tiny so I very much doubt that this is origae6 and their initial destination. it seems far too small a planetoid to have an earth like ecosystem capable of sustaining humans. I believe the term scientists use to describe an earth like planet is a goldielocks planet and lv426 does not fit this description
Not to mention that LV-426 becomes the Acheron of Aliens. They wouldn't need to colonise a place that they've already 'in theory' colonised with the Covenant occupants.
No need for time travel. Yes Dallas does mention that it "appears" that the space Jockey is fossilized and that the derelict ship has been there for millennia but they based that on the back that the space jockey was a fossil which was an assumption. In reality now that we know the space jockey was presumably an Engineer in an exskeloten it is possible that the derelict has only been there years or months. From end of Covenant to beginning Alien we have 18 years in which to develop a plot and connection. All signs point to David being comforted by not only the Engineers but the Company seeking to get their hands on his research for Bio Weapons Division in the next installment. More than likely somebody takes off from Origae-6 and ends up crashing on LV-426 or David simply reroutes Covenant to take him back to the Zeta 2 Reticuli system back to where the Engineers have there Weapons Cashes and bases in order to continue is experiments on the colonists. He is clearly able to command M.U.T.H.E.R even identifying as David as seen in the final scene of Covenent. Honestly anything other than that would be an over complication in my opinion.
Indeed some good points raised RehabJip
I have covered similar a few times, particularly the 18 year Time-Frame which when we consider Origae-6 will be about 7 years 4 Months Journey this means no soon as David and the Covenant Ship arrive at Origae-6 it will be 10 years prior to the events of ALIEN
The OT makes some good points as far as seeing connections to Origae-6/LV-426 with a neat little find, and while we cant rule this out, the Problems i see with this depends on what is CANON anymore, the Weyland Viral Site and Marketing connected LV-223 and LV-426 in the same system, who knows what they plan now, but both Alien and Prometheus the distances are similar and other clues do connect them to being related.
So if Origae-6 is LV-426 then the main Problem is when the Prometheus went out to explore LV-223, how did they miss the fact that near by was a World that is Habitable, also if we are talking the same system, then why would one place be LV-223 the other Origae-6.
The only logical way around this would be that what if LV-223 is Origae-6 and becomes LV-426, so that the aftermath of Prometheus eventually turns LV-223 into a Habitable World that has Plant and Organic Life, this is pretty much the route the FIRE AND STONE comics went and then if they go this route, so that Origae-6 is what becomes of LV-223, then some Tragic Event has to render Oriage-6 to become the Baron World of LV-426.
The Problem with this is time-frame.... Alien Covenants movie/marketing etc indicated that those behind the Covenant Mission had spent 10 years researching Origae-6 for it to be a viable world to colonize, which means it CAN-NOT be LV-223 because well 10 years prior is when the Prometheus was on LV-223, and for the same reason it cant be LV-426 if this is in or near the same system... because this would mean Origae-6 would have been detected on route to LV-223 by the Prometheus and the distance would surely not take the Covenant Ship nearly 9 years to reach unless its Technology was far behind Prometheus.
We have to look at the set up, RS claims the next movie will feature less Xenomorph but be about AI more, and RS also mentions what kind of a World David will build, and future movies will move away from the Xenomorph. To me this means we will not be going to the Zeta 2 System but we will go to Origae-6 but at some point between Alien Covenant and Alien and so after Alien Awakening we will have to explain HOW/WHEN/WHY Davids Creations end up on a Engineer ship that crash lands in the Zeta 2 System.
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