Where Ridley Scott might go with the next installment..(SPOILERS)

One thing that bothers me. At the end of covenant David has everyone dead to rights. He has the ship. He has the embryos. He can basically kill t and Daniels. They better come up with something that isn't stupid to sort this out.

Yeah good luck with them not doing something stupid. When they stop doing stupid stuff let me know, then I might watch the rest of the movies that hopefully never come out.

Damn I didn't even realize that the 2000 colonists could be the friggin eggs. Unfortunately, it makes it more plausible that they go this way. Stilll, I sort of honestly dig this David-centric prequel series. Having him create the Xeno and being responsible for the lv_426 juggernaught feels shoehorned, but whatever, I guess. Haha it looks like that's what I have to deal with.

I think David gets blown out into space when he fights an Engineer on another juggernaut before it crashes on LV426 with the 2000 colonists now converted to eggs lol.  Because nobody from the Nostromo or the later colonists on Hadley's Hope encounter him.

He's not going anywhere with those box office numbers lmao. 

lol @Capola.  The movie has two to three weeks left of box office play.  Memorial Day weekend is going to help it somewhat (in the states).  It needs to make another 120 to 140 million.  It should be in the high 180s worldwide by next week.

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Agreed. From everything I've seen, Ridley and Fox expected Covenant to do less at the box office than Prometheus. As you've stated, the movie looks well on track to pay for it's follow up, regardless of it's flaws and controversial plot.

The doom and gloom is of course the intended reaction illicited by releases from media outlets who hope to get hits off sensational box office reporting. 

I think Daniels might be ripleys mother and ripley is one of the colonists on the covenant. Probably about 12 years old. 2104 -2122 making her 30 by the original aliens. Think Walter survives goes after david on lv 223 the future home world of the xenomorphs. Walter saves Daniel's and ripley as a war between engineers and xenomorphs goes on. David escapes some how to head to lv 426 also known as oregae6 and crashes possibly due to the chest burster. People are saying he fixes himself, upgrades and engineers himself and some how makes himself vulnerable to facehuggers who knows. That basically ties into the original aliens Cuz it takes 7 years to get to oregae6. That would make ripley about 19 in 2111 and then 30 in 2122.  If we go back to Daniel's and ripley, it is possible that they escape on a ship of some kind and the only thing I can think of is shit hits the fan and Daniel's put ripley in an escape pod and ripley get rescued grows up follows in Daniel's foot steps and gets called to lv 426 11 years later to find david the space jockey. 

as long as we go back to lv 223 and we see the adult deacon being the ultramorph and used as a device to trigger the egg thing witouth david manipulation that leads to a queen or something able to reproduce the species on its own.

as long as we see more prometheus engineers fighting the xeno and david..and also providing more spoon fed answers about our creation purpose and demise.

as long as that engineer in lv 426 is trully engineer.

As long as that ultramorph tears david apart and is responsable for impregnating the engineer that crashes on lv426...that borns a queen that lays all those eggs.

i will forgive ridley for all the flaws and ill be a happy man.

just bring that ultramorph already!

Katherine has indicated this prequel trilogy is not about her, and the Ripley connection has been dropped, but about David. 

Katherine knows where the Covenant is going and its plot point significant because Ridley came close to revealing it and Katherine stopped him. 

For 'T' to survive is significant.

They played "Entry of the Gods into Valhalla " at the end of the movie. Alberich (David) has to deal with a hierarchy including Woton and Erda in the Opera having preferred let go of love (Elizabeth) for the gold (The development of the pathogen). 

Ridley has confirmed we will find out whom the Jockey is. 

Ridley has said the Engineers are just a superior species there is a layer above them. ("Its quite a complicated story").

We have everything we need to make the connection except a Juggernaut and an antagonist that can deal with David. He has succeeded with mankind and the engineers but in the final film he will be bested, possibly redeemed.    

The Eggs are already capable of being created without morphing or a Queen. It is human DNA plus pathogen. Where they are going may contain the catalyser which can be corrupted, David may have a phial with him (worrying about LV223 and LV426 in the same movie feels over complicated, I noticed when we speculated on Covenant people had us dashing all over the place.).

Terraforming Equipment is on board and identified as needed.

The derivation of Origae is charioteer, helmsman,ostler, waggoner (constellation). Helmsman ? Ostler ? Jockey ?

Whatever they let go of in Covenant, Elizabeth and the Engineers, was part of the overall story need to get to the next phase. 

David for the purposes of the story has told W - Y as Walter that they are en route to Origae 6 and only "Danny" knows about the switch, 'T' does not.  That provides David with the ability to dissemble and marginalise the mad deluded "Danny" riffing to a degree Ripley in A L I E N S. 

I really enjoyed the character of Walter, he can heal and regenerate tissue. This was a big part of the Walter viral marketing, the fact that he has this upgrade. He even used it when stabbed in the neck, it took him a few minutes to repair and come after David. I am not sure David understands the capacity of which Walter can regenerate, perhaps Walter does heal/regenerate himself (it will just take longer).

He then repairs the juggernaut or perhaps finds another juggernaut on the planet. He could easily learn how to fly it from watching the Shaw hologram as that is how David learned to fly them, from watching the Engineer holograms.

As far as why David didnt leave, they could easily explain it as he was busy with his "work" and experiments and wasnt satisfied with the results so he was content there, if nothing else he is flipping crazy, really that could work to. If they can retcon the engineer into being the Space Jockey (which was clearly much larger) they could easily explain a acceptable reason why "crazy as a loon David" didn't leave the planet. 

Even though this next movie or next couple movies will end up with just one character in a Space Jockey suit sitting in a chair we must have protagonists. Right now David holds all the cards, all of them and as things are that means certain doom for Tennessee and Daniels. Having Walter racing through space and finding them and coming to the rescue would allow for Daniels and Tennessee to be involved in the next movie, outside of just being lab rats. Then together they could be in the last adventure that leads us up to 1979 Alien.

Whether they are facing off against David and his creations or David as well as Engineers or possibly the introduction of a higher race of beings that the Engineers of LV223 even bow down to. 

I think allowing Walter to continue in these movies would allow great themes t play out. Sacrifice, duty, love, what it means to be human, what it means to love, creator vs creation. I feel that perhaps it would be cool for Walter in one final last ditch effort to somehow trap David in the Engineer suit and him be the Space Jockey Dallas and Kane found in 1979. Perhaps while he is sitting there he has a world class monologue/epiphany about creation and humans and what it means to have a soul before he dies. Anyway there are eleventy ba-jillion possibilities but i like Walter coming to the rescue. Plus they made sure the regeneration thing was placed in the viral marketing so perhaps they mapped out something along those lines already.

Its funny that everyone is caught up on the age of the ship and how long its been there. That would be a huge plot hole, as is the fact we see pics of the Xeno before David "created" them. 

My thought is someone steals an ancient ship/ancient suite with the eggs and crashes b/c of the unexpected internal passenger. 

Maybe behind that helmet is David witnessing his creation becoming or maybe it was a survivor (human/Walter) trying to save humans only to failed?

Either way the two biggest plot holes are the age of the ship on 426 and who made who with the Xenos. 

I read that Walter might have regeneration ability? So maybe he comes back, takes a ship and goes after them. I like the idea of David going back to LV223, finds the deacon as the missing link and just more freaky sub aliens and again that mural with the Xeno already on it...interesting stuff.

Also, is that the end of the Engineers or do we see more?

One thing that Ridely should do, and its weak but have a dialog in the film that basically says it started here, went here, and ends here. Tell the audience, and haters, how it all comes together :)