Alien Covenant - Juggernaut + Rock.
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SoniLand
MemberOvomorphMay-21-2017 2:46 AMHello.
I saw Alien Covenant last week, and I wonder why the rock goes inside the Juggernaut. Do you know what caused it ?
It makes me think about the " Prometheus: Fire and Stone - Omega " comic book. I haven't read it but I know about the mountain :
" [...] the "mountain" was a being on the Prometheus that the Accelerant caused to grow around the ship. "
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hox
MemberFacehuggerMay-21-2017 9:28 AMIn this scene we see the base of the juggernaut for the first time. It has a large hole in the bottom that is used to deploy its bio-weapon (as we see later in the movie). After the ship crashed into the mountain the bomb bay would have scraped across the rocks.
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SoniLand
MemberOvomorphMay-23-2017 9:54 AM" After the ship crashed into the mountain the bomb bay would have scraped across the rocks. "
That's also what I've thought, but I have a doubt, I'm not sure but it seems the rock touches the "walls" of the Juggernaut interior.
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auximenes
MemberFacehuggerMay-29-2017 12:16 AMIt does look like the rock is much further up into the ship than expected if it crash landed. If the ship touched down in a controlled manner then I can see it but not the way it came crashing down.
That reminds me, what was it that took the stolen Juggernaut down?
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ali81
MemberNeomorphJun-04-2017 7:54 AMim assuming awakening will answer the cause of the crash and other things. one theory is that once david deploys the weapon, he wakes shaw to show her his revenge on her behalf but she doesn't react the way he expected. theres some form of confrontation between them and during this they cause the ship to crash?
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SoniLand
MemberOvomorphJun-05-2017 7:27 AMYes I've read that theory. Or maybe something happened between David and the other Enginneer who was controlling the Scorpion ship ; if there was another Enginneer, and if the Scorpion ship wasn't autopiloted...
This leads to another topics/theories :
- " The Scorpion ship had tipped the juggernaut into the side of the nearby mountain when they figured out they were under attack. "
- " Dr Shaw crashed it to stop David who might have wanted to go to earth and do the same thing. "
- " The other engineer ship fired on the Juggernaut and it crashed. "
- " David has lost control ? "
- " Automated Safety device ? "
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AdamPD
MemberFacehuggerJun-05-2017 4:03 PMIt's almost like the ship warp/hyper jumped prematurely into the mountain, it seems odd the rock face goes into the ship, like it's grown into it.
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BigDave
MemberDeaconJun-05-2017 4:43 PMI think the simple answer is the Ship Crashed into the Mountain side and kind of Skidded up the Mountain a bit which had like a Water Fall or Stream running down it and the Hole in effect acted like a Ice cream Scoop and Scooped up a bit of the Mountain and Soil and over time this allowed for Moss and other Plant life to start to grow inside.
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sherris
MemberChestbursterJun-06-2017 7:35 AMYes they make a comment that the source of the signal is in a elevated position to where they had landed.
They seemed to point up at the mountain.
However, there could be more to it.
I suspect we will find a bit more detail when the Blue Ray arrives. Ive spotted a few things im unsure of due to the quality available in home viewings.
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AdamPD
MemberFacehuggerJun-06-2017 9:41 AMWell the signal was coming FROM the Juggernaut, it was a recording of Shaw humming/singing that Take me home song.
I personally think David recorded her in secret and sent it as a distress call personally.
I doubt anyone would divert an important mission like Covenant's to rescue a robot.
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SoniLand
MemberOvomorphJun-12-2017 5:09 AM@BigDave
Yes, when I look at the last picture, I realize that there is perhaps less rock than I thought, it looks like the room is more filled with moss than rock. I'd like so much that the DVD comes out tomorrow...
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BigDave
MemberDeaconJun-12-2017 8:03 AMYou can Pre-order them now but i am sure the Release date is about 8th August for DVD/Blu-ray
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Ripleys_Ghost
MemberFacehuggerJun-12-2017 9:36 AMOne might presume that the Juggernaut got into some sort of battle with the Engineer scorpion tail flagship, and then crashed. It does look odd, because there's so much rock inside the ship, though.
From a practical standpoint for the film makers, making rocks out of foam is way cheaper and faster than building the other half of the spacecraft set.
Here's the crashed Engineer flagship from the film:
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SoniLand
MemberOvomorphJun-12-2017 11:52 AMLOL, I guess I did a mistake in my english sentence... but I don't know where, lol. Yes I know we have to wait for the DVD.