What the Heck is Going On?????

Could you direct me to the confirmation that the prequel Novel won't discuss Shaw or the Engineers please. Ive not seen that. I can't see what it could hope to achieve without covering them if I'm honest. Ive been really looking forward to reading it. 

And I agree with a lot you say. I really enjoyed the whole Engineers vibe and want more expansion on them in every way possible. It's a shame, Ridley was sort of forced away from that whole thing it seems. 

'We just have had confirmation that the prequel novel won't even discuss the Engineers or Shaw'

Who did confirm this?

Sources for the confirmation....?

Via AVPGALAXY

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/06/07/alien-covenant-origins-synopsis-released/

“As the colony ship Covenant prepares for launch, and the final members of the crew are chosen, a series of violent events reveal a conspiracy to sabotage the launch. Yet the perpetrators remain hidden behind a veil of secrecy. The threat reaches all the way up to Hideo Yutani—the head of the newly merged Weyland-Yutani Corporation—when his daughter is kidnapped. Is the conspiracy the product of corporate espionage, or is it something even more sinister?

While Captain Jacob Branson and his wife Daniels prepare the ship, Security chief Dan Lopé signs a key member of his team, and together they seek to stop the technologically advanced saboteurs before anyone else is killed, and the ship itself is destroyed in orbit.”

Not what I was expecting either.

@Dark Nebula. Thank you very much.

You have single-handedly ruined 6 months of my rehab with one short post...

Really? A Tom Clancy wanna-be thriller about finding a saboteur? I know they can do better than that...Is this some sort of sick joke that God is playing on the Alien franchise...?

Lol just lol at all this mess. This had great potential of being something great. Now its just another b-story.

Cop out to the max

Engineers, Engineers, Engineers....PLEASE!!!

That synopsis sounds incredibly...not what I wanted.  Just curious though, where was the confirmation the prequel novel was going to cover the story of David & Shaw post Prometheus?  

Oh shit ...  is this a joke?

"While Captain Jacob Branson and his wife Daniels prepare the ship, Security chief Dan Lopé signs a key member of his team, and together they seek to stop the technologically advanced saboteurs before anyone else is killed, and the ship itself is destroyed in orbit.”

Technologically advanced saboteurs hmmmmm

Must be Ninja Predators. AvP3!

This doesn't necessarily mean it won't address David and Shaw at all. Titan Books will certainly not spoil the juicy bits of the story with an official synopsis. ;)

Please don't kill me. I was merely joking. Hiding disappointment behind joviality.

what is going on??

The problem i have with this is, if david and shaw were in the book it would be a massive selling point and for them to print what they have, is not a good luck for us fans.

IMO there is a high probability that this story is not about David and Shaw.

I had planned on buying it but im not so sure i want to now.

partly our acceptance around a:c was that we had a prequel book coming and would contain the missing 10 yrs.

Perhaps someone just though it was David and Shaw story when it wasnt. Either way just another massive blow for us. 

If this is true then, a:c was a bigger mess than i thought.

the franchise will be lucky to survive this with any credibility 

Didn't notice this thread. I just posted another on the same topic.

I am beyond pissed.

Tiwaz

I wish, but judging by the synopsis, I can't imagine there being a chance in hell the book will cover anything outside of what's been revealed. It's possible yes, but it seems highly unlikely. If they were going to do that I'd imagine the synopsis would begin with something like "While David and Dr Shaw have left for the home world of the engineers..."

No thanks.

QES, yes possibly. It sadly starts to amuse me how Foxland-Scottani is fucking up the franchise. *shakes his head*

Luckily they sold Star Wars, couple of years ago. I don't dare to imagine what they would've done to it.

No surprise there

Sounds like a fan fiction piece.

I'm with the OP on this.  Wouldn't it technically not be that Fox and Scott are ruining the franchise, but more that "fans" bitched and moaned that the Alien sequels were bad with too many Aliens or a queen, then Scott made Prometheus but people whined that there wasn't enough Aliens and it didn't answer enough questions about the Alien origin, so Scott tossed the direction of Prometheus and threw in more Aliens, now everyone is mad that the origin is somewhat explained and the Engineers are gone.  I wish Scott could have gone the direction he wanted and told a long story over multiple movies to fit everything that people want to see and know. I fear we will just keep getting Horror/Action mashups that don't tell the whole story.

Sorry for the probably incoherent rant. I'm typing fast at work but hate reading all of the polar opposite reviews and impressions.  No one is happy with all of it because it isn't what "they" wanted it to be.

Ripleys_Ghost in defence of the Alien fan-fiction writers on here I think any one of us could have produced a much, much more exciting story than this lol.

This sounds incredibly boring and dull.

Not to mention a story with an already forgone conclusion. So not only will it be boring and dull, but likely predictable with no suspense whatsoever because we already know the launch succeeds.

I guess that settles it. It seems BWW and IRaptus have their work cut out for them.

If that is what really happened before the mission, there is no way the crew wouldn't have been discussing the possibility of a sabotage when they got struck by the "neutrino burst". And by the way, who funded the Covenant colony mission if it was not Weyland Yutani? 

Alien426 you are comiñg across as blaming fans and that reeks of immaturity. I discuss my issues with these films here but I dont insult others. It's also just beyond laughable that you would accuse the tiny population here of fans for being responsible for Ridleys possible change in direction. I suggest you go to YouTube and Twitter to spread your vitriol against the VAST GENERAL PUBLIC who refused to support Covenant. If one would rather be precious about it here then so be it! Hope you find that inner peace one day.

dk I think  Blackwinter-witch's Manticore story would be a perfect straight fit for a bridge between Prometheus and Covenant :)

Yutani had to have known about the discovery of the Engineers, and this prequel novel sounds like it will help create a more layered "ALIEN" world that ventures outside of the Xeno being the main focus. Maybe I'm alone here, but I want to read this, NOW! It sounds great!

Clearly all Wyeland-Yutani synthetics are far too advanced and making humans seem inferior, and it seems that Scott wants ADF to bring this into more of a connected (not directly) universe to Blade Runner; A Corporate agenda with bad robots, good robots, human origins, space gods, and Xeno, our old pal.

It sounds weird. Maybe after all the Covenant backlash Fox had this guy switch the engineer prequel he already had written for some generic espionage template so they can save the engineers for later. I always thought that the story of Shaw looking for answers could be potentially too good to just dump it into a novel that few people are going to read. Specially given the lack of ideas in Hollywood.

 let's get back to reality here. I hardly saw anyone bitching about there not being enough xenos.  It was actually why the fek are all these scientists stupid (and not just every day stupid more like a 5 year old would act) and why are there so many plot holes and just a general muddled to everything involved even outside the film. And it looks like that's carrying on :D . Very few were saying oh it all makes sense to me but i hated it because no xenos were there.  In fact i can't remember any exact moments i saw this. This is nothing to do with fans. This is a crap production team messing up again and again... who's in charge i guess mainly fox but with a lot of Ridley etc... they completely missed what people didn't like about Prometheus and almost did the same. Adding xenos because they thought that was the problem hmm... anyway don't sink the book yet until we really know everything...

Fox and Ridley have got to be just screwing with our brains!

I'm assuming the novel will be the basis of Alien Awakening. I loved Covenant, but this direction sounds incredibly strange. Hoping there is some information left out. 

What drew me to alien was the biological aspect of birth, creation and biomechanic aesthetics. If that's not present then I'm not interested.

@djamelameziane - Thumbs up for Space Balls. "Check please."

The Xenomorph is secondary, until, the 1979 ALIEN. I feel like knowing the politics of Weyland-Yutani, and their agenda, will fill a plot hole that was only briefly touched on in ALIENS. We know Weyland, but Yutani is a bit of a mystery.

IRaptus

dk

First, THANK-YOU guys for the kind words about my works and fanfiction writers in general!! :) (HUG)

It seems we have much work ahead in keeping the torch of this franchise lit and alive vs the typhoon of b-thriller, cliche`, trope-ish Grisham-wannabe 'canon' that FOX is throwing around.

ALIEN: Manticore is coming along very nicely and don't worry, there's NO EVIL CORPORATE CONSPIRACY cliche` involved.
I won't do that to my readers, and I won't put myself through the Grey Swamp of writing it.

Actually, I don't think W-Y is even mentioned in my story...and probably never will be. I'm pretty sick of always hearing about Weyland-Yutani Plot.

UPDATE:

ALIEN: Manticore is at the point where i've been working for weeks to get to, which addresses:
'what's been going on inside that building for the past 40-odd years since Prometheus?'
Starting from here, things get pretty complicated, as I have to use minatures and a diorama (sorta kit-bashed expedient) to keep track of who and what is where and what's going on. :D

Too bad Milburn's dead, he'd LOVE the 'petting zoo' that's evolved in there. :D

SPOILER-ish stuff:

If you thought 'cuddles' the Trilobite was bad news, just wait.

Hammerpedes are a LOT worse than Milburn and Fifield experienced. They got off easy.

NO Queen Xenomorphs, and they're not needed. :D

It's about a LOT more than just 'critters in a shooting gallery'.

WHY did the Engineers have 5 buildings there? What were they used for?

What are the true origins of The Alien?

What is the Space Jockey?

The final fate of The Deacon is addressed.

Blackwinter-witch no worries. I know you have been working closely within the Prometheus pre-covenant timeline!

I have suspended work on Pandion for now, but will definitely return to it.

I hit a wall, then wanted to flesh out a newly introduced character to take the story forward, which has now turned into an entire new story in its own right. One that I think has potential to be more exciting and explore more widely... and doesn't involed W-Y being nefarious and evil either. quite the opposite....sort of.

But I am super excited about what it reveals about the engineers!!! 

Update to come.

This isn't a huge deal guys. The way I see it, maybe they still want to do reveals about David and Shaw's time together on screen in the next one. If they're saving it for later, why bother blowing it in a book?

David001 Why would they want to save the David/Shaw dynamic pre Covenant for the next movie?

BW, when Manticore is finished, will you post the whole thing here? 

By the way, I appreciate all of the feedback everyone! Now, I'm SERIOUSLY considering sending my letter in to Ridley 

IRaptus

TY for your words, I get worried at times that things are taking too long, then I remind myself that I don't want to rush things and make avoidable mistakes or catastrophic omissions. :)

I know what you mean!! That's why I wrote 'The Lander', and as I suspect you know I along with others eagerly look fwd to reading your pieces when they're done! :)

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In a manner, yes. ALIEN: Manticore is presently close to 80,000 words and I still have a large story section to work on, so trying to do it via 'posts' would be problematic.

I will post Scribd and Google drive links to it and it will be PDF format, same as I did with my story 'The Lander'. That's the best way I've found thus far to make it easily available for evertone to read and download.