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Alien Covenant Scorpion-Tail Mothership Battle Mystery Solved

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Ati

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The crashed Alien Mothership can be seen at the end of the movie!

A conversation between concept artists Wayne Haag and Steve Burg (in the comment section of the page showing the Alien Mothership textures) reveals that there was a battle between the two alien ships and both of them crashed after it.

According to Wayne Haag, the Mothership appears in the scene that shows the Lifter leaving the city.

Steve Burg:

You know how when you work on things, you kind of "live there"? With this, I was imagining all the things that might have been going on inside this giant craft - which I guess is sort of the "Coast Guard" for the planet. Since it's nowhere to be seen later on, and the Juggernaut is crashed miles away, there must have been quite a "dust-up" after David dropped the black goo!

Wayne Haag:

You can see it crashed further up the valley when the Lifter leaves the city! You have to look quick though!

Steve Burg:

No kidding? Wow, I will have to try and spot that!

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nlDd4

Ripleys_Ghost, thank you for the movie still:

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Gralen
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So that giant scorpion-craft prevented a global (black goo) contamination with that "dust-up" and knocked down the small juggernaut in the meantime?

Would make sense when the local lifeforms know what David dropped on them.

But the film presented it in this way that the whole Planet 4 is contaminated with the black goo?!

Or maybe just the area around the giant Engineer city, which would mean maybe 10-20 kilimeters in radius.

We will see.

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Gralen, no, I guess the phrase 'dust-up' refers to his thought/the fact that we don't know where the Mothership is, it disappeared.

That's why Haag reveals that 'it crashed further up the valley' so we know where it is. There was no 'dust-up'.

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sherris
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Dust up in that sense is a fight. English term

Take This.... This is the blood of our lord

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Ati
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sherris, I mean the same, there had been no such a profound 'dust-up' that ended with the total destruction of the Mothership: it can be seen at the end of the movie crashed 'up the walley'.

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I did not see anything that would lend itself to this...Did someone someone else see the crashed Alien Scorpion in the movie...?

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I wonder how much it costs to produce something in the film that know one ever sees? Well, maybe the director's cut ...

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Gralen
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Just from a pragmatic point of view.

Do you think the structure was fully automated or was it crewed with some dozens of humanoids?

If im not mistaken the black goo dropped downwards and missed the scorpion completly.

If the ship crashed then it cant be becuase of the small Juggernaut. Just compare the two ships. A mouse cant move an Elephant. So ramming is not an option.

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Ati - i see now. im slow u know ;)

Anyways that is a great spot. i never noticed it. i will check it on the next watch.

Speaking of small detail:

I have been pausing some scenes in the city and it looks like there are 2 types of hands when waving. dont know if its a budget issue or purposely done.

So there will be a few bits to debate when blue-ray hits and we can see more detail

Take This.... This is the blood of our lord

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Sherris has got a naughty copy...Sherris has got a naughty copy...

:D 

Butt seriously what is this place it's not making sense as usual... if they are the same engineers as Prometheus then why do they have almost nothing. 

If they got almost wiped out way back why do they still have a gaint scorpion thingy and a city still tiny and defenceless... hmm. No other engineers in space or planet? None visited in 10 years?

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

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sherris, damn, we have to rewatch the movie! :)

As for the inhabitants waving, one of them is wearing white clothes. I thought he was a king or something similar. Or he got more light in that scene... :)

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djamelameziane - It is a hidden planet... Or it is a forgotten planet... Or it is a forbidden planet...

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Theory:

Pitched battle between the Juggernaut piloted by David and the Scorpion Tail mothership.  Scorpion wins, Juggernaut crashes... but the crew of the Scorpion Tail succumbs to the black goo mutagen.

Shame that we didn't get to see this.  Because that's what the audience wants to see.

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Ati
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Good theory - or David knows the weak points of the Mothership, that can be a part of the explanation as well.

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Does anyone want to speculate about what type of weapons might have been used?   Seems like the integrity of the ships hulls looks pretty good, but the propulsion systems got trashed.

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Ati
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Yeah, we don't know anything about their weapons. I'm sure Scott wants to reveal info about them in the next movie. That's why he mentioned the War of the Worlds scenario.

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The Juggernauts don't seem to have much of a shielding system since they allowed the Prometheus craft to crash into them. They didn't seem to have any kind of automated weapon system either.   The Engineers apparently don't expect to have run-ins with anyone but their own kind - and then they just call their insurance agents!

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Ati
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Or we haven't seen their battle fleet yet... :)

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@Ati: Do you have a link for where RS refers to the War of the Worlds scenario?

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We know this planet was hidden but why? If you have seen the Crossing you can see Shaw and David are working out the coordinates to this planet as it was probably not in the engineers juggernaut star maps.

Is there an agenda the mods are not telling us about? ;)

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Engineer weapons?

Hmm i hope we will see some kind of firearms of them.

from what i saw their technology involves music, a liquid transmission substance and holograms.

Im sure their weapons fire some sort of heavy duty lasers and dont rely on projectiles like humans weapons/firearms.

Or maybe yes projectiles but in a railgun manner with extra hard substances for maximum penetration.

 

We will see.

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