IvanCA
MemberOvomorphJul-10-2017 6:50 PMHola amigos
Estuve mirando Alien Covenant y encontré un detalle particular.....en la escena que David toca pieza musical para elizabeth se muestra una fotografía de Shaw y junto a ella lo q parece ser una columna vertebral.....me di a la tarea de repetir la escena y me parece que corresponde a la columna vertebral de un Neomorph....puede ser que elizabeth se infecto con un Neomorph o que David previamente estuvo experimentando con ellos....no creo que esta columna vertebral este al azar junto a la fotografía de elizabeth.
Me di a la tarea de revisar las imágenes de Neomorph y los huesos que sobresalen coinciden bastante con la columna que observé en la escena de la fotografía de Shaw....dejo las imágenes para que las puedan mirar y darme su opinión
I.Raptus
MemberPraetorianJul-10-2017 11:12 PMHello and Welcome to Scified IvanCA!
Thank you for taking the time to post your Neomorph theory. Good spot, it does look a bit like a Neomorph spinal-chord next to Elizabeth's photo.
I hope this translation works but here goes
Hola y bienvenidos a Scified IvanCA! Gracias por tomarse el tiempo para publicar su teoría Neomorph. Buen lugar, se ve un poco como un Neomorph espinal-acorde junto a la foto de Elizabeth.
I.Raptus
MemberPraetorianJul-10-2017 11:22 PMAll good Godzilla: King of the Monsters! I edited out my translation so we don't have a double-up :)
Im not sure what translation software you used buts it good to see they work pretty well and consistently.
Capt Torgo
MemberFacehuggerJul-11-2017 8:07 AMThanks for the translation and theory Ivan. Totally agree that director R. Scott is super meticulous with his sets and details so who knows. According to that one drawing it does look like she got mouth bursted by spore exposure. Doesn't the book say she died finally from infected sex/birth from Prometheus.
Kethol
MemberChestbursterJul-11-2017 9:08 AMThat's not a Neo spine. It's a spiny mullusk shell. There are a lot of shelled mollusk drawings and specimens in David's lab.
Looks like they just used a real one as a prop.
BigDave
MemberDeaconJul-11-2017 9:20 AMIndeed there are a lot of Organisms David had been experimenting on and with, in the aim of creating Perfection.
He is cross-breeding and experimenting on trying to create the Perfect Organism... it would be like if some Scientist on here could find a way to Splice and Merge DNA of Life on Earth and Create a Hybrid.
You want a Ultimate Predator? Take a Tiger, mix in Eagle DNA so you now have a Flying Tiger, give it thick Scales like some Reptiles, Give it Fangs of a Spider and a Scorpion Tail.
What a Deadly Beast you have created... but this is Fantasy, we are a long long way off being able to Splice Genes from various Organisms to make such a Hybrid.
But in the Franchise... David can do this.. because THIS is exactly what the GOO is... its how it was INTENDED and they have changed it a bit but going back to Spaights ideas for it (Nano-Scarabs) it was a Tool that can Splice DNA from different Organisms to create Hybrids.
This is basically what David has been doing for nearly 10 years, and at some point he needed something Dr Shaw has to complete his Experiments.. this most likely has to do with her Reproductive Organs or Eggs.
The Closest we got to a Xenomorph in Prometheus was the Deacon, all clues seem to lead us to this Organism was only possible due to Dr Shaws Eggs.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
BigDave
MemberDeaconJul-11-2017 9:29 AMWe dont know what happened to Shaw 100%
We have the Scrolls that Daniels was looking at but these was only shown briefly and some of this could not have happened to her due to how her Corpse was found... as One Picture Daniels found, Dr Shaw was Bald and had a Tube down her throat which looks like some-kind of Face Hugger event... The other image is Dr Shaw with Hair with her Head taken off and Jaw ripped off.
Maybe these are just concepts the team worked on? maybe they can be explained as some Strange Visions David had on his mind where he then drew them.. but does not mean this is what he actually did to her.
At very least we see Dr Shaw has something growing from/attached to her Head. What this is, is open for debate and its purpose. I would assume its to either keep her alive or indeed to control/contain her. But at some point it looks like she either (or both) had some Organism growing inside of her removed, or had her Reproductive Organs and Ovaries Removed.
If you was David and wanted to experiment with this stuff, you would be Fascinated to have wanted to know the Fruits of your Labor from the experiment he did with Holloway.
David would know the Goo infection to Shaws Womb did create the Trilobite and so its likely trying to REPLICATE such a Experiment would be his First Task.
A Thing to remember is they had a number of ideas of what would happen and become of Dr Shaw, and a lot had evolved compared to the earlier ideas... which was apparently she would be connected to a Device thats Bio-Mechanical, and experiments on her Eggs... then she would gradually be infected to become something less Human and Produce Eggs.
This is from what the Source 2.5 years ago i had, and clues they gave me. Now over 2.5 years latter Concept work from those working in the movie regarding unused ideas do seem to Back this Up... as far as what the intention was at some point.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Davefried81
MemberFacehuggerJul-12-2017 2:11 PM@BigDave,
Do you think it may be possible David was somehow cloning Shaw over and over again to experiment? I really like that idea :) After the view we see of Shaw in Covenant, we clearly see her esophagus to the stomach is torn out.. I would think that the samples David has in the lab are all failed experiments? AHH drives me crazy since so many doors were opened, and not closed.
jdvyne
MemberOvomorphJul-12-2017 2:20 PMI really think this skeleton is meant to say something to the audience. We know RS has an eye on the placement of things. I don't think this requisite was put there just for the sake of it.
I think it could really be to tell the audience, that it's something that David cross-breeded with. On many of the paintings in Davids lab there are sea-life creatures (just like the Trilobite is something like a squid - the engineers must have added some sea-life-creature-dna to the black goo-mix, I always felt like the cylinders coming out of the Xenomorphs' back may come from some squid-dna in the Xeno-dna).