Collider says no more David in future Alien movies

joylitt
MemberNeomorphJuly 24, 2017Steve Weintraub from Collider stated in a youtube video that was reposted by AVP Galaxy, that the plans at Fox provided Covenant was a success, were to make one last prequel tying into the original Alien and then do a sort of a soft reboot with new characters where we won't have to worry about David and other themes explored in the prequels. Do you think dropping David's would be a good thing for the Alien franchise?
ali81 Katherine Waterston is a good actress. If you wanna appreciate her acting chops watch "The Queen of Earth". But the script really made her into this mousy and uninteresting character unfortunately.
im not saying shes not a good actress, im saying in the role she played, imo, may have not been the ideal choice. u find with a lot of actors they smash a certain role but bomb in others. look at the like of arnie (not suggesting for a moment hes in the same league as say tom hanks or di caprio etc) but he smashed the role of the terminator and dutch but in twins?? maybe exaggerating a bit to make the point but for me there was just something off with daniels from the start. I thought rapace did a decent job as shaw but shes dead so daniels was to replace shaw as lead character but no point having another character similar to shaw which, yea we got, but daniels for me couldv just been another of the crew that got taken out. Tennessee for me was the best character and I was glad he survived.
joylitt "To have an antagonist you need to have someone to antagonize with, that is the problem with Covenant, it lacks that someone"
that is a very excellent point. David is more interesting in experimenting than antagonising the crew, they are just vessels to him. The Xenomorphs also lacked the antagonist punch and were too easily dispatched.
i liked Covenant but thought something was lacking. I think you hit the nail on the head with the lack of an antagonist
IRaptus I see what you are saying. But it is more a lack of protagonist. The dynamic of antagonist/ protagonist is disbalanced and it's all about Fasbender chewing up the scenery. I always compare David with Roy Batty and I ask this question: How good would that character and Blade Runner would have been had his part have been bigger than what it was. Sometimes too much of a good thing is no good.
agree joylitt its time to spread the focus a bit off of david or they risk losing something there. time to let the engineers out the bag and let them play I believe
ali81 yes, have the engineers back would be great if they use them as a means to expand on the mythology.
Collider can say what they want, but this is just more unsourced speculation based on the same unsourced THR article.There are about a dozen articles online now repeating and putting their own spin on it. Funny watching these rumors get repeated enough and becoming a "reality" on the internet.
If Fox were not behind Covenant they probably would not spent more money pushing it with the Alien: Covenant Colonist Certification Test at ComiCon.
I would dump him from further prequels, have him sail off with his experiments.
Then have him in A L I E N 5
Alien:Kingdom of David
Alien:Kingdom of the Dead
Set 400 years in future.
David has set up a super colony of HYBRIDS(millions...even billions?) and this virus is starting to spread through out the galaxy. Dead colony spaceships built by David.
David is immortal and is just taking his time. No rush. Do the job right the first time.
HYBRIDS are starting to infect/invade human colonies, one by one they are falling. Slowly making it's way towards Earth.....
Not sure how I feel about this. I don't like the story revolving around "David" completely, as I think there are way too many other fascinating and interesting topics that need to be explored in this vast "A L I E N" universe, but I don't necessarily want him to "go away" either. Now, I currently do NOT believe that he is the absolute Xeno creator, only a curator/experimenter, so therefore I think they absolutely could easily do stories without him.
I think when Prometheus didn't hit the audience approval marks they wanted, and when they saw the magic that Fassbender created on the big screen, they pretty much forced RS and the team to revolve the next installment around him, and that's why we got THIS version of A:C, instead of a better, more expository film. Hopefully relaxing the David story a bit will allow that to happen next go round.
I really hope they don't change course, again, and say David didn't breed the Xenomorph into existence. That would ruin the narrative set forth by Prometheus and now Covenant. David, he's an excellent character and antagonist and I find his story relatable. I want to watch more films in which he terrorizes people in space. I understand some found the mystery surrounding the Xeno an allure but I like this origin. The Xeno is the epitome of death and the fact he was manufactured by hate, malice, and lunacy is intriguing imo. I also want to learn more about the Engineers and I also agree that the Alien universe is so vast that focusing on one individual story can be a waste but David has so much potential and that would truly be waste.
"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."
Thank you, I appreciate your sentiment. :-)
"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."
I hope the Engineers are going to return with a vengeance in Awakening. They are surely going to be upset about the annihilation of their people, and the bastardisation of their tech
IRaptus I hope this as well. I want to know more about them, Ridley keeps teasing us! Though, I want to see them fall prey to David's machinations as well.
"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."
Hopefully Covenant is setting the pieces for a climatic third film. Something huge and epic. Perhaps the engineers follow the Covenant to Origae-6 in pursuit of David. big conflict between engineers and humans + david. Total chaos and destruction of the planet.
LV426
I think having Ripley in the Alien series was a bad idea. Instead of making the alien itself the star it was about her, which really limited the series. Kind of like Underworld but that is a whole other topic. In the prequels David is learning and creating which makes this story line so much better.