Michael Fassbender seems to confirm in an interview that the kiss scene was a "joke"
joylitt
MemberNeomorphOct-17-2017 5:13 PMIn a recent interview, Michael Fassbender seems to brush off the fanboy's fancy for over analyzing that much talked about moment when David kisses Walter on the lips. What he says kinda confirms that this was probably a "private joke" improvised on the set. This is what he had to say about it: "I want to do my best and I definitely put my heart and soul into my work. But I don't think it's something that needs to be respected and revered and taken seriously. It's fun -- and if people are getting pleasure out of it, then cool." So apart from referencing a scene in the movie "Blade Runner", what was the joke all about? Making fun of gay people, maybe?
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MemberChestbursterOct-17-2017 5:24 PM"Making fun of gay people, maybe?"
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I Moon Girl
MemberChestbursterOct-17-2017 5:30 PMYet, the kiss scene was put in the movie at the expense of other scenes which could've developed the environment of Paradise more. To me, it's important because a kiss is usually means something serious, yet it does depends on culture too. Regardless of what Fassbender thinks, I'm sure Ridley Scotts vision was the deciding point of that scene. If it was such a joke, then why put it in such a serious movie?
Lawrence of Arabia
MemberChestbursterOct-17-2017 5:35 PMThe scene, while most likely being a reference to Blade Runner, was essential on two fronts, one to throw Walter off and two to showcase David's increasing sexual frustration as he is unable to "feel" but clearly does like Ash in Alien79. Fassbender clearly doesn't think much of it because it's work and it's not a big deal to have two men kiss. Obviously people were going to have fun with it as it was probably intentional as Ridley likes to have humour in his works but that doesn't mean it wasn't meant to be taken seriously either.
"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."
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MemberChestbursterOct-17-2017 6:04 PMWell, it seems that Fassbender is just doubling down on the comments that him and Scott have given before. Those comments were along the lines of. "It's okay to laugh, not everything in this film is super duper dead serious."
I do agree with Lawrence of Arabia and I Moon Girl that it means something(s). I mean, to be included in the movie, especailly at that point, it HAS to. Otherwise it would just be a reall really bad choice.
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joylitt
MemberNeomorphOct-17-2017 6:08 PMLawrence of Arabia The kiss on the lips scene was excelent in the original Blade Runner movie as it was a communion/send off between creator and creature. But now it turns out it also applies to "brother" synths and inter species send offs, as proven by The AC kiss and two other very prominent kisses on the lips in "Blade Runner" 2049". I loved that movie but those kisses were uncalled for in my opinion. Kisses on the lips in a movie directed or produced by Ridley Scott are actually becoming a "joke" in a way.
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MemberNeomorphOct-17-2017 6:14 PMI find it kinda puzzling that he says "I don't think it's something that needs to be respected and revered and taken seriously". It sounds a little bit that he is taking distance from it. As if he was saying: "Dude, I am a professional; this is just my job. I don't want you to make me the poster boy for misunderstood gay folks". Oooops maybe he was reading some of the posts on this forum.
joylitt
MemberNeomorphOct-17-2017 6:26 PMNo, Ati, they are not laughing with you. They are laughing at you.
joylitt
MemberNeomorphOct-17-2017 6:28 PMAti Just in case, I wouldn't send any Tom Of Finland inspired sketches to Michael Fassbender. He might not like them.
Ati
MemberPraetorianOct-17-2017 6:37 PMjoylitt - 'they are not laughing with you. They are laughing at you.'
If it makes them happy... :D
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MemberDeaconOct-18-2017 8:20 AMI dont know what to make of this....
Surely it cant had just been a spur of the moment joke?
It appeared to me to be a Nod/Easter Egg to Blade Runner, and also it could be seen in a number of ways, in which to me it was kind of a Judas Kiss
I know some interpreted it as a Gay Kiss and David was thus a Bisexually confused Sex Crazed Robot... but i dont really buy into that. Well maybe kind of lol
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MemberNeomorphOct-22-2017 7:06 AMI think that scene was both interesting when Walter and David discussed things because you could see the differences between their worldviews but at the same time it was so slow so it became a bit boring. They could have made that in some other way that wasn't so slow.