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Ridley Scott blames the diminishing returns of AC on the "Alien" itself

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joylitt

MemberNeomorphNov-03-2017 12:53 PM

In a recent round table with The Hollywood Reporter, Ridley Scott said he chose to direct "Alien: Covenant" over "Blade Runner: 2049" because following up on "Prometheus" was "a good piece of business". He added: "But I think the beast has almost run out, personally. You’ve got to come in with something else. You’ve got to replace that. And so I was right… I was ahead of the game". It is sad to hear that Ridley is making this reading of AC disappointing audience support. His lack of belief in the single thing this franchise has been built upon is puzzling to say the least.

https://screenrant.com/ridley-scott-alien-covenant-sequels-future/

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/11/03/think-beast-almost-run-personally-ridley-scott-alien/

 

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SuperAlien

MemberXenomorphNov-06-2017 1:27 AM

So what will happen with the 2 embryos and the 2 thousands colonists?

 

 

"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"

SuperAlien

MemberXenomorphNov-06-2017 1:49 AM

I am ok with the direction Ridley Scott wants to follow, I hope he will leave the engineers as an extinct civilization too. Just bring in the one who made the engineers, because they are just an older civilization, technologically advanced to humans. 

The engineers are cooked as well. Just look at the folks bombed by David, what more can we expect from them? Marooned on that planet.

"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"

Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphNov-06-2017 9:20 AM

He still doesn't get it, he doesn't understand that a lot of people are not as much into AI as he is. The beast isn't cooked but a story that isn't interested in the human characters is. I don't want another AI movie with the human beings as something that is thrown into the back of the room so to speak.

Give me a movie that focuses on well-written human characters and what they go through so I can have some sort of sympathy for them. I can't sympathize with a mad android.

If this is what they will do (more David) they should quit because it just gets boring (I repeat - boring boring boring). No (or very few) sympathetic or interesting human characters plus and over-reliance and focus AI = crappy movie.

ali81

MemberNeomorphNov-06-2017 9:53 AM

i def think a film that delves into the backstory of the engineers and their connection with the xeno has huge potential, more so id say than a synthetic Gengis Khan in space

Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphNov-06-2017 10:00 AM

“a synthetic Gengis Khan in space”

LMAO! Ho ho ho! Thanks ali81, that was fun as hell.

Yeah I would also rather have a movie about the Engineers and their connection to the Xeno rather than a AC 2.

MonsterZero

MemberXenomorphNov-06-2017 5:03 PM

So we remove the AI antagonist from the next movie.

Back to a Bishop like 'hero'.(Walter or whoever, a female synth maybe)

Make the bad guy human...maybe someone onboard the Covenant in cryo sleep.

This human character kills some crew a real psycho. A human version of David.

The end of the movie a Xeno kills the bad guy(the audience hates the guy and wants the xeno to 'get him')..The xeno becomes the hero....a happy ending.

IF David was human would we be having this discussion? Would everyone be freaked out by a human doing what David has done?

joylitt

MemberNeomorphNov-06-2017 5:07 PM

MonsterZero It would be over the top nonetheless

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberChestbursterNov-06-2017 5:07 PM

"IF David was human would we be having this discussion? Would everyone be freaked out by a human doing what David has done?"

Slow down there MonsterZero, don't go destroying the fabric of reality for some people.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

BigDave

MemberDeaconNov-08-2017 4:31 PM

I can see Ridley Scotts perspective...

At the end of the day if the Engineers are our Creators, what we have is Humanity proving to be a failed Creation one that  has proved Rebellious and one that the Engineers had maybe created/obtained experimented to create the Bio-Weapon to Redact their Wayward Creation.

The Hubris for these beings being that this Failed and their Wayward Creation has Sub-created Synthetics who in turn become Rebellious against their own creators and use the Engineers Bio-Weapon against the Engineers and then Re-Engineers/Experiments with it to Create a New Tool of Destruction to use on Mankind.

Ridley Scott sees this Theme of Creation/Sub-Creation and Rebellion as the underlying theme he wished to explore with Prometheus 2 before we got that changed to Alien Covenant.  The Xenomorph is just a Creation that was created from our Creators Bio-Weapon intended for us.

AI has always played a huge role behind the scenes, if we look at the Background information on David during Prometheus, we see that these Synthetics had Teething Problems, their was Recalls, Rebellious Actions  and ULTIMATELY we see the End Game of this with the Sentient David, who sees himself as Superior to Mankind and does not see why he should Serve Mankind... we have the whole Satan/Lucifer Story Arc.

We see in Alien that ASH admired the Xenomorph, this would make more sense, if they are exploring David as the creator and a more AI concentration, we see in ALIENS that Bishop is a New Model that does not have the Flaws and Potential Dangerous Emotions/Actions that Previous Models had... and so there is a whole Story there regarding the Potentially Buggy and Sentient Earlier Synthetics.

But it does not end there.....  Alien Resurrection shows us as a Back Ground Plot (Call) that in the future Synthetics even Sub-create their own Synthetics the Autons and we have a Rebellion by these Autons and a Recall, and 200 years after the events of Aliens we see that Earth has witnesses Devastation/War and that in this AGE Synthetics are Shunned and Feared/Outlawed.

Mankind Finally in Hindsight realized the Dangers of Sub-creating a AI that could become Sentient, much like Stephen Hawkings has warned that would be Mankinds undoing.

The Engineers Foresaw these kinds of flaws and problems with their creations (Humans) and they attempted to Put a Stop to us before we could ever Evolve to be such a Threat... this however back-fired.. and the Black Goo was just the Tool they intended to use on us and the Xenomorph a Extension of those Bio-Weapon that was Evolved by our own Creation... the Synthetic David

So indeed the Xenomorph is but just as say Gunpowder is to Mankind...

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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