Bio-Mechanical Xenormoph... Shoe-Horning

the dark horse comics succeed because comic writers are afforded more leeway when it comes to out of the box writing I think. I like the way its done with Elden in the fire and stone comics but I don't think it would work just as easily in this series. u have to take the fact David has already stated the goo is aim at fauna only and leaves flora alone. id say at this point with that statement, even an AI with organic material would be hard to mutate as only the organic matter would be affected. David will have to alter the goo in his experiments for it to be realistic enough to show an AI being fully changed for us to get the bio-mechanical xeno we all know and love. or maybe the engineers have a form of the mutagen that will affect David?

or, what about they use this other form off mutagen on Walter? he is broken and they cant get any info out of him when they return to planet 4 so the use the mutagen to restore him and then see he can be used as a weapon against David?

Ali that's a great point, the goo would likely not mesh with non-flesh. 

critters. well it hasn't affected him in 10 years so it obviously doesn't affect synthetics in its current form so yea

Although, they could always just say he created a modification etc. 

yea they could. theyd have to have david go into a decent description of how he did it or it would just be a lazy way of doing it imo

@Critters5

With subtitles lol...  But if they interact with David we have to remember he can understand them, a tricky one is if they arrive at Planet 4 and how can they communicate with Walter, or if not how will they be able to tel where David is going?

But i would not put it past them just turning up with out giving no explanation to how they knew David would be at Origae-6

@Svanya

Indeed there is a wealth of ideas that we have seen explored in Comic Books, and Unused ideas from Previous movies and also Unused Concepts.  We see each movie in the Franchise has appeared to loosely use ideas that never got to be explored in previous ones.

I also missed this Topic you linked ;)

These ideas also are something maybe Dark Horse picked upon when they introduced Elden in Fire and Stone.

@ali81

Indeed we have seen David has not been infected, but the option is there for other different Synthetics to be infected, Elden from Fire and Stone and so also the Eldena concept, were Synthetic Constructs which means they was Part Organic and Part Synthetic the Walter Viral Material did show that he appeared to have some components that looked Organic or where based to look Organic.

So its something that indeed could be explored.

dave, I get what ur saying but part synthetic/ part organic still poses the question. in its current form the goo only affects fauna, the living part of the synthetic, yet the non living components would remain unaffected, how does it work? it needs to mutate or be re-engineered to affect the non organic matter within the synthetic. whether the components look organic or not isn't really a way round it. the mutagen only affects fauna so the synthetic cant be fully mutated by the current goo

Great point Lilly (Svanya). 

Walter may end up like Elden and the groundwork for this event may have been shown in the Walter viral material mentioning customers' DNA. 

What is this below brain made of?

If it is even a small part organic then we can expect an "Elden" type event (below) from Walter after introducing the pathogen to him.

Great topic BigDave. You could not have picked a better term than "shoe-horning" in developing the xenomorph origin. 

I'll be back soon to discuss other topics. Thank you again for this.

"I think things would get to Star Trekish if we went that far into the sci-fi world."

Yeah but do you think that Scott understand that?

"I simply hate the perceived path RS is   taking the franchise."

Me too even though hate is a strong word but it is really crappy. Keep it to the Engineers and their connection to the Xeno and keep the human element as the main thing. The AI story that they turn this into is crap, it might sound interesting but it is a mess when they have it in the Alien franchise.

"AC FORCED a xeno in there and it had no impact."

Maybe Scott was told to use it while he in reality didn't have the interest to do so.

". . . hes lost the true imagination and wonder within the alien franchise and is simply too stubborn to change."

My guess is that if he would be totally responsible for the story then it would turn into shit. Scott is good with the visuals but he can't write.

"... is that David Created the Xenomorph."

That idea was really dumb, I dislike it so much.
"I think RS wanted to try and cover more with the Universe, where Prometheus was to ask WHY as far as how the Xenomorph had occurred which is a result of a Bio-Weapon those Engineers Created and it was to explore WHY they would want to create such a Horrific Bio-Weapon, rather than showing us the History of the Xenomorph and Queens etc."

OK but the way that they have done that is just bad.

"Due to pressure to please Fans, he was asked to give the Fans the Xenomorph again and Show us how it was Created...    And the Curve-ball that RS decided on, has upset a lot of fans."

Yeah, that David crap.

"AI is not the alien franchise..."

Tell that to Scott, he doesn't seem to understand that.

". . . bad call and if this ends up being the case, his prequel series will have as much effect and impact on the franchise as AVP and AVPR did with the eception of Prometheus."

He he, they might make AVP look good. I don't like AVP or Covenant, Prometheus was not that good either.

". . . nah, time to go if that's his plan imo. I watch alien because its about the beast and by extension, the engineers now and I watch BR because it explores synthetics. im not interested in a BR spinoff called alien awakening."

I watch it because of the beast and the human characters because it tells us something about how humans react when they are put under pressure from something that they are not prepared for. The Engineers could be interesting if they get that right but I don't care for the AI part. Unfortunately the next alien movie could turn out to be crap.

the alien franchises focus shuld be about the aliens. there can be themes of engineers and a.i philosophy but they nead to complement the alien story. not replace it or mash them together in equel parts.

Indeed while the Franchise has a number of elements... Humans and Space Exploration, The Weyland-Yutani Companies History/Merger and Conflict and the Synthetics and AI, as well as Marines the whole purpose for doing the Prequels was supposed to be.

The DERELICT

Where did it come from, where was it going WHY that CARGO and WHO was the Space Jockey his Purpose and Agenda. And these had been Evolved into the ENGINEERS as the Space Jockey Race, the Derelict on of the Engineers Ships and the Xenomorph a Bio-Weapon related to the Experiments/Black Goo on LV-223

I think FOX/RS will need to cover these at some point especially if without DAVID there would be no Xenomorph Eggs on the Derelict, then Engineer Ships, Engineers and Xenomorphs have to come back into play.