Dear Disney

Help me out here!

How can one help you? Even Sir Scott changed his vision in 5 years. But fine, please Disney, pour your money into Scott and his clique! Surely they will please the every hardcore fan with enough money.

red0guy How can one help you? The statement was a request for others to draft letters in a similar fashion. I should have made myself clear and I apologize for any confusion.

Most of us are skeptical with good reason. I am attempting a different approach. The deal seems imminent and we have no say. May as well be pragmatic imo.  I guess the end game, as meaningless and futile as it may be, is to draft a letter with help from members. Surely there are way better wordsmiths than myself.

dk - I like your letter. :)

This is the beginning of a beautiful future.

I'm sure Scott will give us a breathtaking Alien war movie.

...or they can just troll us with stuff like this.

Thanks for the letter, dk.

You have my support.

It may be a good idea to even send our letters to Disney when the takeover is confirmed,  kind of pestering Andy Dufresne did in Shawshank Redemption. 

Disney,

I respectfully ask for an Alien: Covenant sequel update in the form of a date that it will be in the theaters? And may we please have a trailer for this film.

Thank you. 

I agree.

The main reason why is in example #1... The Force Awakens.

Even more so in example #2... The Last Jedi.

And slightly with example #3... Rogue One.

I can just tell Disney is involved in the first two examples.  I can barely tell in Rogue One.  Still, I can tell in all the Star Wars movies (yet, barely in Rogue One).

The problem I have with it is that these Star War movies are losing there story and are aimed at appealing to the masses.  Disney likes to play certain cards that they think are the Ace of Spades, yet it's getting old and repetitive.  It's like... there's that joke again.  It's just now it's in Star Wars instead of some children movie.  I feel like the new Star Wars goal is to appeal to the younger audience.  If the whole movie ain't based around that, there is at least some part in there that is trying to appeal to the younger audience.  I saw Star Wars as an adult film. 

This is obvious in Example #4... Return of the Jedi.

I think Return of the Jedi established with hard evidence that Star Wars is an adult film.  At the very least, it is aimed for the 15+ crowd.

It seems the new Star Wars are dumbed down to appeal to everyone.  The original and even Episodes 1-3 embody complex relationships among the characters in themes such as love, friendship, loyalty, lust, and betrayal to name some that come first to mind.

Lando is one of my favorite characters of the Star Wars franchise.  This is because of the how the Star Wars books portray him.  I love his gambling problem.  Han has a "gambling" problem per se as well.

Of course, what happens to Han in The Force Awakens?  He starts his conning in the beginning only to later be... SPOILER... supposedly killed.  No more gambling or conning people.

Where's Lando?  No gambling or betraying people.  In short, in the words of Leia... no "scoundrels".  I love the scoundrels in Star Wars.

I think we're lacking debauchery in the new Star Wars movies and in place of that, we get tons of humor, overly cute creatures, and dumbed down character lines.  In the new Star Wars, it seems a good, smart character can even be forced to do stupid things all because of The Force.  A problem with these "stupid things" is with the way they are introduced into the film. 

So, if we can take the Star Wars franchise as an example where the Alien franchise could go (which I am), I'm very scared for the Alien franchise.  I would rather have a bad Alien movie than a world popular Alien movie because everything will just be better.  The Last Jedi broke so many records at the box office (and it was a good movie), yet I feel like it is manly because it is a Star Wars movie.  Yet, Disney will probably be making more like it because it was such a financial success.  It's to late to be worried about the Star Wars franchise now, though.  The damage is done and it's just gonna keep on comin'.

I really do hope the Alien franchise can survive Disney.  I'll sign the petition with ya dk!

I Moon Girl I think Empire Strikes Back was the darkest and more mature of the original trilogy. Episode 1 was when I noticed it was appealing to a younger teen emo angst crowd. It also went heavy with the cute creatures and humor as you stated. 

Star Wars was always more wholesome adventure to me and was kid friendly from the start.

Alien is a whole other thing. It was never little kid friendly and most of the dark humor was pretty adult. I like to think Disney knows the difference and will proceed accordingly. At worst I can imagine an AVP vibe which I am not entirely against. 

I hear you DK ;)

But failing that Request maybe we can get a R18 Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs, or Beauty and the Beast with HR Giger for input Rest his Soul ;)

But seriously i do think Disney need to look at the Alien and Predator Franchise and realize they are movie franchises unlike what they have..... and they should aim these at Cert 15 year olds or higher.... we dont need Sci-Fi Popcorn for 12 and unders ;)

When those 12 and under reach 16+ they will thank us ;)

@I Moon Girl

I dont think Star Wars was aimed at 15 year olds, i think its a Family movie of the 70's and 80's genre thats being a bit more Flash Gordon as opposed to a The Never Ending Story... both great movies by the way ;)

My problem with Star Wars is that since they released the DVD versions, they added the odd CGI and the odd Goofy kind of Characters and moments that just never fitted within the old Star Wars Franchise, Star Wars aimed at giving us some more Indian Jones 80's Family Fun rather than Mac and Me and ET kind of Fun....  So i feel the added Goofy additions that are not misplaced from a Pixar Studios Flick are not necisary for Star Wars.

Sadly they continued this with Phantom Menace.... but they kind of tried to go back to the feel of the Originals with Attack of the Clones and the Revenge of the Sith.

It appeared The Force Awakens kind of trod the path between a Phantom Menace and a Revenge of the Sith... but the Last Jedi took the lets add children's Pixar Characters to the extreme a bit....

ROGUE ONE was a testament to how to please the old faithful, yet i guess when trying to attract a new wave of fans, it was a bit Dark.....  but i just feel the Force Awakens and The Last Jedi seemed to be aimed at the 12 and unders too much.

But i certainly agree with your post... ;)

I think we can worry with Disney that they will go the fail safe formula of Xenomorphs and Ripley instead of offering us something New and Fresh.

Star Wars- unlike Alien was all about merchandise too as Yogurt pointed out in Space Balls. Space Balls the Movie, the poster, the shirt, the lunch box etc.

I have said this a number of times on here,  and what DISNEY need to Realize is that the Ownership of the Alien and Predator Franchises, gives them a different take on Sci-Fi that can be aimed at a different Demographic than to cater for the under 13's

These Franchises should go back to their Very Serious Roots as far as the First Movies go, i think we need to allow these Franchises to be Marketed at the 15+ year olds.

This gives Disney a different Market to compete in, should Disney attempt to open the Franchises to a 12 year old Audience, then i think they drastically have to cut a lot out, and basically reduce the Franchises potential...   by having even less Horror and Gore than even the Sharknado Franchise lol

We have to hope they realize the Franchises of Alien and Predator give them something different and marketed towards a different demographic than what a lot of Disneys Library already does.

I do think we could be more likely to see a AVP Reboot than any Alien movie any time soon, especially if The Predator does not fare well.

"I do think we could be more likely to see a AVP Reboot than any Alien movie any time soon, especially if The Predator does not fare well."

I agree.

But will the Predator still be released?

Why is no one from Disney saying something about the future of the Alien franchise? At leastto test the public reactions.

The bean counters might be looking at it. A good AVP could be something to enjoy though in the mean time.

They should keep them at a 18 years rating. Alien is not Mickey Mouse so to speak. I am getting a bit worried that they will be messed up because Disney has taken over the thing.

@daliens

I think The Predator will be released, who knows what the reasons for the Re-shoots are, but if the movie Bombs... i think Disney will be looking at the risk of doing another Predator Movie, the same goes with a Alien one after Covenant.

And so they may be tempted to release a Popcorn AVP instead.

@Thoughts_Dreams

Totally agree, we need to remember that ALIENS would not get a 18 nowadays, i mean how much more Gory was that than Alien Covenant?

I think they need to keep the Franchise to the same Gore, Foul Language etc and Horror as a Alien, Aliens and rest of the Franchise (not inc AVP) but we could include them...  We could cut back on F-Bombs and Nudity especially.

But they need to keep the Franchise aimed at older fans and kids who are 15+

While Marketing a Movie for 13 or undies would introduce the Franchise to a NEW Generation, it limits what can be done in respects to doing the Franchise Justice... 

THERE IS A MASSIVE RISK

That introducing a New Generation aimed at 13 and unders could Damage the Franchise and put those who where around when the Origins were about or indeed those whole loved the Franchise who were not of viewing age in the 90's completely off EVER seeing any more after a Kiddy Friendly movie.

Then Disney would have to bank on some old school Fans still wishing to see further movies not matter how PG its getting and PRAY the 13 and unders love the Direction and will be the Basis for a Toned down, Future of the Franchise.

The Question is how CLEVER Disney are... or if they wish to try and make a Quick Cash Grab.

BD

They do not need as much foul language as in Aliens though although I like it. ;) The only problem is when you swear too much then it looses its effect and you sound stupid instead.

It should at least be a 15 years age limit to it, otherwise I am afraid that we will get a kid friendly movie which in the case of the Alien franchise would be a terrible joke. Sure you can lower the age limit to the franchise but then I think that it would make it lose some of its integrity, that would be a shame. Money versus integrity is what it seems to be about in this case.

Yeah, I would consider it too kiddy friendly so I would probably loose interest in it but then that is already happening with the David-centricity.

One could also think about this: how would it be remembered later on in history? Alien 1 to 3 have a place for some although alien 3 less so do they want a fast cash grab or something that stands the test of time.

This is a good point... one i wonder is why Blomkamp uploaded some more Art from his Project..... because a Reboot of Alien 3 set 30 years after Aliens and to tinker with Blomkamps Idea a little could be seen as a Popcorn/Cash Grab Flick that Disney may indeed feel would have LESS RISK with Potential for more Return.

fantastic dk
It is really absurd when a desire so close comes that turns into hope in these times not entirely rosy.
you wrote every word of my most sincere thought to this franchise

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"