"ALIEN COVENANT" SHUT OUT AT BAFTAS WHILE "BLADE RUNNER: 2049" SCORES BIG

@dk I think so, as long as you remember the main plot and characters you should be fine.

Svanya, "Sea Wall" was also my favorite.  I play it loudly at home. :-)  When that scene hit and the music came in, it shook the theater (I saw it in IMAX) and really brought the intensity to it!

dk - I think it's a good idea to rewatch the first Blade Runner before enjoying Blade Runner 2049.

Svanya -  'I simply put the Blade Runner post where it belonged...'

That's OK, thank you, I made that comment because the two topics created by red0guy, 'Blade Runner 2049 opens in China and Japan' http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/46923 and 'Might All the Money in the world flop because of the Spacey scandal?' http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/46972 were not put in the sections they belonged.

I would do agree with you that the thread 'Might All the Money in the world flop because of the Spacey scandal? is a fairly weak player in the Covenant section.

dk I have watched Blade Runner hundreds of times. However, as a personal choice I decided not to rewatch it before going to see BR2049. I always thought that making a sequel to the first movie was like making "Citizen Kane 2". However, Villeneuve's film is a pleasurable enough experience by itself. 

daliens - Thank you very much.

'We're all getting anxious here because the news about the future of the Alien franchise is uncertain.'

Comments and posts bashing Scott and Covenant made by posters like joylitt has caused the uncertain future of the Alien franchise we are facing now. That is the sad truth. :/

Ati That last post does not belong in the Alien forum. It belongs in the "Demonizing joylitt" or in "joylitt the almighty" forums. ;-)

@Ati Thanks for pointing that thread out to me, i've moved it. Guys if you see posts here that are not about Alien movies please PM me. We miss some now and then. 

joylitt I think I will hold off and watch the movie fresh as many movie goers probably did- maybe with no or very few preconceived notions. It might be interesting to see if it can be enjoyed as a stand alone movie.

Svanya - You're welcome.

Can I enjoy the advantages of the category 'Missed Now and Then'? /Just kiddin'/

'...belongs in the "Demonizing joylitt" or in "joylitt the almighty" forums.'

No joylitt, that comment belongs in the section 'Beyond joylitt'...

Ati That is fine with me. You are the only one who wants everybody to agree with you. You are just the ultimate Ridley Scott fanboy; nothing wrong with that, I guess. I would have probably been like you back in the 80's.

LOL. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion even if it is wrong/counter to mine.

dk Exactly. That's common sense.

As long as it is the "right or correct" opinion :)

I honestly don't see how Disney will make Alien horror films. But there is a chance they let Ridley Scott do the final chapter of his prequels as he intended to. Without the alien in the title, like Prometheus. I would definitely see it and buy the bluray too.

And I suppose the Alien fans would see it at least once, with or without the beast or the horror. 

I think Ridley's blast at the running time of br2049 shows how out of touch he actually is. running time isn't really an issue. people sat for 3 hours for each of the LOTR movies and it never got slammed. why? because there was something going on throughout the movie. BR2049 was awesome. yea it took a bit to get going but id still watch it in the future. AC however is a film ill never watch again. funny how Ridley's blast at how long BR ran for was down to character building yet the film has been very well received and yet, the shorter AC film with NO character building has had more criticism. hhhmmm think its time Ridley steps aside. I mean it took nearly 40 mins (slow pacing) for the beast to appear in alien so what was happening in the film up to that point? building up the characters and it is regarded as one of the all time classic movies. now hes slamming such a process? time to go in my book

daliens. I have to agree. I think Disney will give us awesome looking planets and star systems and hopefully something new in terms of alien species but will they give us a proper 'alien' horror film? I don't think they will as I doubt they will release anything about PG13. but that doesn't mean the prequels will suck if they tell the right story.

The quality of AC prohibits it from even getting a statue carved out of wood. It was so disappointing in general unfortunately.

"… recently blasted by Ridley Scott due to its long duration and slow pacing, scored a total of 8 nominations…"

AC also included slow scenes so he should not complain about that. Some examples are the David and Walter discussion and where Daniels and Oram sit around some sort of fire. Where Rosenthal gets eaten by a monster is not a very fast paced scene either, right? It is a short scene but it is not a lot of action in it. Unfortunately we did not get to know anything about her in the movie so her death did not mean a lot.

"I think both Prometheus and AC would have been better for being longer." - DK

If that adds something important to the story and is not extremely slow then yeah. Prometheus and AC should have been a bit longer while for example the first three Star Wars movies would not have to be so, just examples of movies that had enough in them to be good anyways.

"… It is a sad fact that several Alien fans left the Covenant page because of joylitt’s offensive posts and comments. They have disappeared…"

Ati: Do you have any information to back that up? You blame Joylitt and while I do not agree with him all the times I got to say that you got to have information to back that claim up since you sort of attack Joylitt there. I do not wish to pick a side in your dispute but I am just saying that you can’t attack anyone like that without any ground to stand on so to speak.

“Comments and posts bashing Scott and Covenant made by posters like joylitt has caused the uncertain future of the Alien franchise we are facing now. That is the sad truth. :/”

People have different opinions and if AC disappoints a lot of people then it seems fairly reasonable that there were things that the movie did wrong. Many people might like Fassbender as an actor but that doesn’t take away the fact that many did not care about the movie, and for good reasons (robot story, mostly weak characters, for example). If they (those who were responsible for the characters) would have cared about them and other things than the robots then they would not have the situation that they have now, that is my guess and by the way I can just say what I dislike about it so I do not speak for anyone else. To only claim that there are comments and posts that are causing an uncertain future for the franchise does not make an inch of sense.

Here is a price that AC should have gotten and yes it is a bit of exaggeration but you get my point:

https://www.istockphoto.com/se/foto/branch-of-dead-tree-gm536724851-57649458?esource=SEO_GIS_CDN_Redirect

The point is that there is a lot of bad things with the movie so the quality is closer to that than to a movie that would be nominated for an Oscar.