The Queen of Venus

"why does it always seem with Ridley that the concept art/ideas are better than what they used or didn't cut? "

I think thats a Question for those who worked on the Projects lol, Ridley Scott and who ever from FOX was closely attached would have had the Final Say in all of this,  i will say that the Hammerpedes were Interesting, the Trilobite too, and from Alien Covenant the Neomorph was interesting, i just feel its a shame we never got a Higher Budget to portray them as the latter Concept Renders which the Neomorph was based off was very interesting.   And much better than some of the earlier concepts that we have seen released.

so sometimes they do get it right.

I feel the like the extensive experimental scenes should have been shown on Shaw rather than Daniels. Viewers seem to love Shaw but Daniels was totally forgettable which is why there will be little to no emotional response to Daniels experimentation. 

I believe very much that the tennessee is strong as a character, he is the best friend of Branson this resonates as an echo of history, depicting an icon of justice on future fiction, I would like it to be so in the next chapter. Daniels was a character hurt by pain, a person who has suffered a gap, but who made him stronger in front of adversity, if she would be alive in the next chapter as a captain or in the role of Hybrid Queen, I think we both have characters, would be exceptional for a Fan, a character like that evolve from hero to villain. David and his transmission to Wayland would have reason to believe that he brought Daniels to the lake and showed him the colony created by him and for it he served a leader, asking him to become his Queen, while he organized the conquest for the Engineers.

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"

i hope that Daniels' death is painfull as hell and maybe wel see some good acting. it only my opinion but Daniels is the weakest lead character in the franchise. id like to see Tennessee survive as he offered something onscreen. his character had some interest but Daniels was flat. I sometimes wonder if RS had held off and cast Theron as Daniels what would AC have been like.

Thank you all for the comments.
 ali81 I'm sorry if this character has not offered more, personally I have been helped with the novelizations to learn more about what I did not know and the film did not get in the 2 hours of film, I hope that somehow you can be satisfied.
hey I imagine Daniels' death with a Tennessee badass next door when everything went bankrupt, as if the Covenant were the Titanic ;D

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"

read it aswell and wont read it again. with all the inconsistencies there wasn't much point to the book

and u don't have to apologise. u didn't make it or cast the actors. I wanted to LOVE this film. was so looking forward to it.

Ali81 agreed, I thought the book was awful. I thought Daniels and Tennessee were awful characters. 

im surprised fox allowed the book to be released with so many parts of the novel not matching the movie. must not think that the fans can actually read and tell that things don't add up. personally I don't consider the novel canon

BigDave

Sorry for the delay, I don't follow this thread, as I am not interested in how lead characters are mutilated just for kicks. I still don't understand why the goo is more effective on Shaw then on the female Engineers when "they are us" (according to Prometheus).

The fate of Daniels is irrelavant, but most likely will be just fine because you cannot waste time introducing new characters in the last movie of a trilogy. Unless you shoe horn in young Ripley or you resurrect Shaw.

And yes, the women of the cannibal tribe in Bone Tomahawk had there limbs cut off, there eyes gauged out or sewn in (can't remember) and probably there tongues also cut out.

That is a good point, if the Engineers are so close to us DNA wise, i also fail to see much a of a difference between a Engineer and a Human, i can only assume that Human Reproduction is more suited, but is this due to the slight difference in Reproduction?  (Do Engineer Females have limited birth cycles, does their off springs gestation time take much longer than the Humans 40 Weeks?).

Or is Human Egg Cells or DNA actually something that just produces something more closer to what David was trying to achieve...  I would have assumed a Face Hugger + Engineer/Human, a Trillobite + Engineer/Human and Black Goo + Engineer/Human would not really provide much difference in the resulting Mutation/Organism.  I would actually have thought a Engineer infection/gestation would produce the more superior specimen.

Also indeed the point about Characters is good too, because the Set-up now for Daniels could be just merely a Plot Device like Shaw was, which means building up a NEW set of Human Characters in the next movie and then asking how do they do this and have them take a key role or appear in the NEXT TWO movies... or surely its not a case of Build up New Characters to then discard them every movie.

Vineticum:

I disagree about Tenessee, what are his character traits other than joking sometimes and having a hat? If he is the best friends of Branson I totally missed that because I never got any hint of that in the movie, what I mean is that the movie was very bad at picturing that. Daniels, what was she about except for wanting to build a cabin at the lake? This is not a dis to you as a person but what I am saying is that the characterizations in AC were very poor.

Critters5:

I still dislike Shaw, she was naive and stupid. Daniels was better as a character because at least she was not written like that although she was too anonymous as far as her character traits were concerned. For some strange reasons the characters have been lacking since AR. Sometimes I am wondering how they were able to get them right in 1 to 3 but became failures since Resurrection. There got to be something that they can do to improve on that aspect of the movie otherwise it is fucked. Right now there is no one to support

HelloThoughts_Dreams.
I can understand that the characters are not enough, it would be a film not a TV series so everything becomes complicated to process it, we could see only the key characters in action, those who face the plot in the film, characters like Ledward who smokes and pollutes paradise is punished or Ankor who adjusts the sail with Tennessee and then the neomorph detaches the jaw, characters that almost do not count or we do not notice, but on their tremble only exist that we are superficial not to balance them.
The meaning of my speech is to reach a pattern where the characters get the right attention at the right time, if Tennesse is not enough maybe he was not required to translate the plot to unfold, he would not be served right now, Janek in Prometheus it would be fascinating to come into play when there is danger, but he has few scenes compared to Shaw not xkè not caraterrized enough, but receives attention only when requested.
Making films is too complex, to see a crew of 15 people is to put them in jeopardy one by one to also explain the plot and make sure that everything is intertwined, it would be a job as real experts.
As far as I've seen, Tennesse is in my opinion enough to be a secondary character, extra scenes show the link between the Tennessee couple and Karine with Branson and Daniels at the Last Supper.
I did not say that you are superficial, but personally I had to watch the film several times to realize the details, important or not, but inside the plot, to note at the ceremony of Branson the crew toasts, the Tennessee pour into the glass of Daniels the Whiskey Jack Daniels produced in Tennessee, a nice detail, in my opinion I really liked it.

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"