Alien Isolation movie???
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianDec-26-2018 7:38 PMNothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for
dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-26-2018 8:06 PMI think an Isolation movie could be great but it would be better after Aliens since Amanda (mentioned in Aliens DC) was mentioned and she found Ellen's voice recording during the game. There was also evidence of a possible queen presence. As for making a novel of Isolation, I suppose it can be done but the game is iron clad solid and doesn't need a book.
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianDec-26-2018 11:24 PMI'm uncertain about the idea.Alien Isolation works great as a game,you lose something with the interactivity taken away.
The plot itself is solid,but follows so many beats from the original Alien it might fall flat on film.James Cameron's intentions as he put it were to not make the film like Alien or even take baby steps from Alien,but to make something new,and it worked.If Isolation were the sequel we got in 1986 i'm not so sure how well it would have held up.
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ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianDec-26-2018 11:39 PMRegarding a queen on Sevastopol.
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dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-27-2018 12:21 AMIt seems there could have been a queen that was heard but unseen. Egg morphing makes sense but don't forget the swarm of xenos that erupted under the reactor in the game.
It could not be a prequel to Alien since there was that voice recording from Ellen that Amanda found. It seems it would happen after Alien- post Aliens is out since Newt would have had to be mentioned.
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianDec-27-2018 1:43 AMIhad that old thread where i explained why i think egg morphing made more sense than a queen.Thought the horde under the reactor makes more sense with a queen.
http://www.scified.com/topic/43109
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dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-27-2018 12:13 PMI remember having a queen may have changed the experience. As SM correctly stated:
"The backstory was there was a Queen on board. They didn't want to reveal it because it would create an expectation that you'd have to fight it, which they didn't want."
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianDec-27-2018 12:35 PMAgreed.It would have been predictable,not to mention it would have detracted from their intentions to keep it rooted in Scotts vision.
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dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-27-2018 1:16 PMI don't recall if a queen was hinted at in the many files found through the game?
dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-27-2018 1:28 PMAbout 40 seconds in, you can hear what is arguably a Queen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3LKWWqVG7c
I.Raptus
MemberPraetorianDec-27-2018 2:39 PMThat's a cool easter egg if it was a queen. I like the idea of there being an unencountered Queen on the Sevestapol the whole time. no need to include it just because they could. The root of this game was the isolation of being stalked by the xenomorph.
I'll have to play it again with the assumption that there is a queen onboard somewhere and see it changes the experiences at all.....and look for clues XD
I.Raptus
MemberPraetorianDec-27-2018 2:52 PMI wouldn't be against an Isolation film because it was an excellent story, but I feel that story was best served as a game platform. Credit to Creative Assembly for creating such a dread experience.
Like I mentioned to you dk I initially watched my brother play through isolation and thought it looked like a cool game, then you convinced me to play it for myself....totally different experience because you were put in Amanda Ripleys' shoes and had the bloody things chasing you!
Movie's cannot recreate that experience of being stalked like Isolation did.
But on the flip side, great plot, premise, characters, pacing. It would make for a suspenseful movie and be a welcome addition to the Alien films
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianDec-27-2018 5:02 PMSo far,i have played through the game 3 times and haven't seen any evidence of a queen,but i accept that it's there.I'm going to listen very closely at that location in the clip next time i play.
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ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianDec-27-2018 5:05 PMI don't believe there is any reference to a queen in any files or audio logs.For the most part you as well as the rest of Sevastopols inhabitants were meant to believe it was just one Alien stalking the station.The reveal of a hive comes as a suprise.
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dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-27-2018 9:14 PMThe challenge of translating a game to a movie is tough. I think the first couple Resident Evil movies were ok but that's about it.
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianDec-27-2018 9:39 PMAlien Isolation to me is canon.Wouldn't mind a movie if done right but I don't need it.I saw on Facebook some one pushing for a movie with Amanda Ripley played By Sigourney Weavers daughter.
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dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-27-2018 9:50 PMIsolation is cannon.
We don't need a film adaptation of Isolation, but it sounds like the best idea right now instead of a bloated high concept movie that would likely fall flat and piss off fans....AGAIN.
SciFi Explained
MemberOvomorphDec-27-2018 10:21 PMWas just researching canon and saw that the makers of Isolation say its not canon to the movies.
dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-27-2018 10:30 PMSciFi Explained OK. We have discussed what is or is not canonical pretty thoroughly over the last two years. The outcome varies from Alien alone being canon to the Quadrilogy or only Scott films. It was pretty much decided that canon is decided on an individual level- including toys.
Please cite the Creative Assembly source stating Isolation is non canon.
dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-27-2018 10:48 PM
SciFi Explained Check this link. Pay close attention to SM- he seems to be gone but had some pretty deep inside knowledge if you wanted to dig.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjbzLL79cHfAhXIITQIHUYCDWIQFjANegQIBhAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Ftopic%2F43291&usg=AOvVaw09s0YqoUbxlYGhN5wM12yz
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianDec-28-2018 1:35 AMIsolation is canon.Difference is Creative assembly wasn't pushing for it to canon as hard as Gearbox with the ill fated Colonial Marines.
But much like DK said canon seems to be really up to you.I consider all six primary films as well as Alien Isolation and Aliens Defiance canon.AVP's aren't canon in my mind.
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BigDave
MemberDeaconDec-28-2018 4:45 AMI have only played Alien Isolation Once and did not get very far, but i roughly know the the Plot. I think it could work as a Sequel, however you would not be able to have a vast amount of time in a 2 hour movie, committed to Amanda hiding and running away from a Xenomorph.
So it would be the interaction with other Characters in the Plot that would make it work.
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BigDave
MemberDeaconDec-28-2018 4:59 AMRegarding the Queen it appears the sounds are there in a kind of Vague way, that in no way should we assume they are a QUEEN but then also there is NO-WAY we can dismiss the possibility.
The comment by one of the Game Produces concludes the idea was there, and i think the way they handled it was the best way to go... Because if it was too on the nose then indeed some fans would EXPECT a confrontation....
Leaving it the way it was, means that Fans can debate the existence of a Queen on the Station and so they can Gauge Fans Reactions to determine that IF they produce a Sequel it would be wise to introduce a Queen or leave it out.
Sometimes somethings are best left UNANSWERED and thus left to Imagination/Interpretation.
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BigDave
MemberDeaconDec-28-2018 5:14 AMRegarding the Queen/Egg Morph.
I was always drawn to that a Egg Morph leads to a Xenomorph Queen. I feel this makes sense, but then with the Deleted Royal Face Hugger Scene maybe this does not add up.
I would thus have to assume that maybe the Egg Morph is likely to be Less-Likely as Canon, than another YET explained Process that leads to a Royal Face Hugger or a Queen Embryo.
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dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-29-2018 2:33 AMSometimes somethings are best left UNANSWERED and thus left to Imagination/Interpretation.
Indeed BigDave . At first I didn't think I was hearing a queen, but a replay with the mindset could add a different flavor to the game. After the horde breakout, it seemed impossible not to think of a queen presence.
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianDec-31-2018 5:03 AMUgg the Resident Evil movies were all horrible, including the first movie. They completely rewrote the story, first movie included!
dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-31-2018 7:00 PMOn the other hand, the first 3 Silent Hill games were creepy, nightmarish mind F£cks, but it required actual playing to experience it. The Silent Hill movies fell woefully flat.
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianDec-31-2018 9:36 PMVideo game movies are difficult it seems.I like the first Resident Evil and first Silent Hill movies,but i'd banish all their sequels.Hell i watched The Assasins Creed movie for the first time today and it was surprisingly good.
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dk
MemberTrilobiteDec-31-2018 10:02 PMNever played or watched Creed. Wasn't Fassbender in the last movie? Yes, I could look it up but I am being lazy.