Giger-Morph
BigDave
MemberDeaconJul-31-2019 7:00 PMThought i would make a TOPIC to Discus the Influence and Designs of the Various Morphs we have seen throughout the Franchise that take Influence from the Late HR Giger, and to Discus which of his other Designs would you like to see Incorporated or Based off as far as FUTURE Morphs shown in the Franchise (Prequels Included).
Above is a Example of some of his Work that Influenced some of the Morphs we have seen in the Franchise.
*Morph as in any Xenomorph (Black Goo) Related Organism.
There are a Number of Concepts and Art made by those who have Worked on Various Movies in the Franchise based off HR Gigers Works that NEVER made it to Screen, feel FREE to discus which of these you would like to see BROUGHT TO LIFE ;)
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
dk
MemberTrilobiteJul-31-2019 7:51 PMThis might be OT but I can't help but see Giger influence in RE Code Veronica X.
hox
MemberFacehuggerAug-01-2019 7:33 AMI have a lovely biomechanoid print in my garden room, hot from the Swiss Giger Musem. The underwater girl is so hot, I'd love to see her in a sequel.
(In case you're wondering, the other pieces are a part of the Prometheus set and a production storyboard from AVP).
BigDave
MemberDeaconAug-01-2019 3:19 PMNice Collection HOX
I think looking at both Replies so FAR then indeed the Main Point was WHAT kinds of Work by Giger would you like to had seen used or something based off in the Franchise... and so we INDEED could look beyond just Xenomorphs, Neomorphs, Deacons and Hammerpedes and Various Morphs as such.
so what i mean is that HR Giger has a Armory of Art that Depicts a Lot of Surreal Crazy £%"£$"
You have the Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic Applied in a number of ways, you have Organic Beings and Material Connected to Mechanical Stuff were you can make out whats Organic and Mechanical but its still Disturbing and Surreal how they are being Merged..
And you have pieces with Various Organic Matter/Organisms being Deformed, Morphed, Warped and Merged and sometimes with Horrific looking Consequences... that would NOT look out of place in The THING!
The same could be said with some of Davids Artwork, which some are Experiments others likely his Wild Disturbed Imagination.
So there is scope to explore some F$£"% UP $"&%
Its a case of HOW do we apply any, for what Reason.
We see that Li Khang had done some Gruesome Concept Work, never-mind what Hallet and Hatton had came up with. Thats without looking at HR Gigers Warchest of ART.
So indeed we could look at the Effects of the Black Goo and Mutations, and when looking at many works of HR Giger i am sure some of them could be Disturbing to be brought to Life....
The Egg Morph was kind of Disturbing, imagine something similar Explored now with the Technology and Effects we have nowadays.
Imagine if the Engineers that were Bombarded had NOT turned to like Stone, but there Bodies began to Deform, Merge with each other, leaving a Mass of Twisted/Merged Body's with aspects of the Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic or Certainly other Worldly Organic look (like a lot of Davids Drawings)..
Imagine a Group of Humans coming across such, and we see Protruding from this Mass of Merged Bodies/Matter some Eggs Sacks or Growths and Wonder what Horrors they Conceal ;)
You could Ponder what Failed Experiments, Mutations could look like some of HR Gigers works.
What other Species could be Explored that are very ALIEN...
So Certainly there is a LOT to draw inspiration from ;)
HR Giger has been used as inspiration for other Movies which include the Species Series, i think these would not look out of Place with the Franchise.. especially with the Engineers and Genetic Engineering and what Horrors could result from Experiments on LV-223.
I think its nice to discus what would really have been cool to see in the Franchise.... a PROBLEM of some becoming a Reality is the HR Giger Estate.. which is why some of Hatton and Hallets work got Canned.
I really would LOVE to have seen the Unused Ultramorph's that never made it into a Prequel that were based off Necronom IV
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
BigDave
MemberDeaconAug-09-2019 5:44 PMI would love to see more HR Giger Aesthetic, i know some may be Disappointed with how Toned down we got from ALIEN to Prometheus to Alien Covenant.
I would love to see some kind of Tribute to him in the Franchise but this is doubtful... it would have been nice to go to a very ALIEN place... Have Monuments, Murals that Depict HR Giger himself, implying him as a Ancient Alien being, a Predecessor to the Engineers perhaps... maybe also Part Bio-Mechanical, maybe Elongated Head?
Taking some Inspirations from some of these...
What if we also saw some beings related to the Engineers even if its Elder Engineers and have One of them appear in HR Gigers likeness? Or have a Main Head Statue in his Likeness?
Or even a HR Giger Connected to some Bio-Mechanical Apparatus, or even just a Mural to show such things?
I would also think O'Bannon needs a Tribute, again maybe some Engineer Elder in his Likeness, or a Statue/Head thats in his Likeness (Engineer O'Bannon).
I think another Neat Nod to him would be to bring his Concept/Idea of the Xenomorph to the Big Screen.
The Fresco from Prometheus does have a bit of Dan O'Bannons work with one of HR Gigers, its like a Amalgamation of them.. I know a number of Fans wondered what the Significance of the Fresco was.. and if we would see such a Creature in a Sequel.
I would certainly like to see a Morph that is more close to O'Bannons Concept and also maybe the Fresco Creature.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
dk
MemberTrilobiteAug-09-2019 9:44 PMOne thing I like about Giger's work is ambiguity and paradox in his visual work. The viewer is left to interpret and fill in the blanks. We can all agree it is dark and disturbing, but we all have different levels of what dark and depraved really is. We can't quite put our finger on it and so we debate and discuss. That aesthetic needs to continue regardless where future movies or shows may go. We need to always have that sense of "what am I seeing"?
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianNov-21-2019 10:53 AM"We need to always have that sense of "what am I seeing"?"
That is what I was going to point out dk. It would be really nice to see something overwhelming biomechanical...hard to understand, ghastly, full-on Giger.
BigDave
MemberDeaconNov-22-2019 7:45 AMI think it would be interesting to BRING BACK more of the HR Giger Aesthetic and Surrealism.... but i am not so sure we would EVER see this Again!
some of his stuff is TOO out there for Disney..... and then we have the Giger Estate who may-not want anyone to use his Works/Atheistic...
So i guess we would be stuck to the Xenomorph we had in Alien or Organisms that Carry the Aesthetic... but anything else with that Aesthetic may be something we just WONT see.
But we can still HOPE ;)
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Thoughts_Dreams
MemberNeomorphDec-28-2019 1:57 PMHopefully they will go back to the more Giger-inspired if they will do another Alien-movie. Unfortunately it looked like another stone-based architecture in AC, it looked boring. I would like for them to go back to the bio-mechanical style or at least something similar.
The ambiguity/alien-ness of it is very interesting and also kind of needed I think. Alien is something. . . err, alien/unknown so they need to keep that and not over-explain things. Not sure about how it will be now with Disney though.
BigDave
MemberDeaconJan-02-2020 3:41 PMI am not sure we would explore the Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic as far as the Derelict/Space Jockey.
None of the other Movies in the Original Franchise really went back after ALIEN (Aliens Extra Scene slightly).
I think DISNEY would just concentrate on the Xenomorph alone, but i am not sure they would SWAY to FAR from how it has been Portrayed in a Majority of the Movies, Games, Novels and Comics.
And so they would look like the Various NECA Xenomorphs (not inc anything from Prequels) and so i dont Expect anything thats Vastly Different like the Neomorph and Deacon were.
More chance we get Normal Xenomorphs with slight differences and Colors
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Thoughts_Dreams
MemberNeomorphJan-04-2020 12:21 PMMy favorite is the second one, upper left to right. Make the elongated parts shorter and it would be very interesting. I do not think that they shall make something that looks like a queen because it has been in movies, comics and so on, get something else.
BigDave
MemberDeaconJan-05-2020 4:16 PMI think you are referring to the Necronom IV?
I liked the Ultramorph Concept that was based off it for the Alien Engineers Draft/Idea
It would have been Awesome to have seen similar on Screen.
I think we need to look beyond the Queen and Typical Aesthetic too, but this is what the Original Franchise gave us and while we see some Differences there was not a MASSIVE variation from ALIEN to Alien Resurrection.
I do suspect IF we get any ALIEN Movies than i think Disney will-not stray too FAR from the ALIENS Aesthetic/Design.
Alien Resurrection teased us with how you could have Hybrids and Failed Experiments.. the Concept works from Alien 5 seemed to indicate likewise...
I think Prometheus opened up a Unlimited Potential to give us different Forms of ALIEN.... but i do feel Disney will STICK to something we are more Familiar with.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017