Alien Day 2018 Press Release and Info!

The only thing I care about out related to A L I E N is the sequel to Covenant. Aside from that, I don't care one bit. Already own all the films. Just make the next one happen so we can close the loop Ridley! A bottle of Laphroaig it waiting for you!

Dido that.....

Hopefully some News on the Franchise Future?  Even if they announced they would be making a Novel set between Prometheus and Alien Covenant, they could Gauge the Reaction to such a Novel as a basis of if the David Direction is whats needed next... or something else.

BigDave

Sorry but I have no interested in such a novel, so if Fox reads they know my opinion.

I just thought if done well, it could touch upon some things, and responses could be met by fans regarding the content,  but i guess really FOX/Disney dont really need such a Novel as they can Gauge what is put on here and other places in regards to whats needed.

After Prometheus they Gauged that Fans was disappointed with the Space Jockey/Engineer,  following the Story/Wishes/Questions of Dr Shaw, the Lack of Answers to Alien and the Xenomorph Origins, and that the movie lacked any Eggs, Face Hugger, Chest Buster and Xenomorphs... or related (the Trilobite, Deacon and Hammerpedes not good enough).. 

So the only things that appeared to be taken as positive was the Black Goo, how does this connect to the Xenomorph, and Davids Character. Everything else in general the Fans felt needed to be improved or introduced.

And so ALAS we had Alien Covenant.... where now we have these problems...  Some Fans were disappointed at the lack of Engineers or exploration of their kind,  Some Fans were disappointed in how the Xenomorph was handled... and the BIG issue seems to be the reveal that David is the Creator of the Xenomorph and his reasons for doing so.

So i think Fans would really want clear answers to any NEWS on the Future of the Franchise, be it a continuation of the Prequels, a continuation of the Alien Franchise,  a Ret-Con of Alien 3 or something NEW

Look BigDave, I'm not a fan per se of anything. I don't buy toys, comics, novels, and I live in Eastern Europe where almost every pirates movies. Prometheus was one of movies I went to the cinema, bought the DVD and re bought it on 4k blu-ray on day one (from the British Amazon as Fox does not bring this format to my country) and was looking forward to the sequel, which I have expected to at least have some kind of nuance.

Sorry I did not find nothing like that in Covenant, a story about a Megalomaniac tyrant against some generic horror fodder. (I think that it would have been very nice a scene where David would have wanted to remove the WY logo from his finger but it would have always regenerate). And they thought stealing from Hannibal Lecter would be a good idea, but that character was only great in opposition to Foster's Clarice. Do you think Hannibal would have killed/raped Clarice, of course not.

So I might be disposable for Fox, but that's it, more money for me.

 PS: Let the Alien formula (Land on a foreign planet, get infected, aliens appear, kill people 1 by 1) die already.

IgnorantGuy = Red0Guy?

daliens

Well, someone I won't mention here, pointed out how ignorant I am, so I had to change the name to fit the new revelation.

ignorantGuy

I was worried that, after joylitt, you left the forum too.

It's always reassuring to see old friends around.

Well you should have been more attentive to where I explained the name change and you would not have to be worried, my dearest friend.

I think i can see the MAIN problem with the Franchise....

The Space Jockey was a Enigma, a Mystery it was awe inspiring, the Atheistic of the Ship, the Size of the Pilot and leaving us Wondering what Purpose would such a being have with that Cargo.

1) Did the Space Jockey discover the Cargo, and Curiosity got the better of him after he had (by what ever means) loaded the Cargo onto his Ship.

If this was the case, did the Space Jockey have any prior knowledge of the Xenomorph prior to those Eggs getting on the Ship, or was this the First Time the Space Jockey had encountered them?

2) Did the Space Jockey Race Engineer/Experiment or Create the Xenomorph,  and if so was it a Creation from Scratch, or something they had Modified/Engineered based off something else they had encountered?  And for what Purpose did they Create/Engineer the Xenomorph Eggs?

3) Was the Space Jockey some kind of Slave for another Race/Being as far as the Relationship with the Cargo, or was there a kind of Symbiotic Relationship.   Because the Derelict and Xenomorph Organism did seem to share a Aesthetic look.

Ridley Scott had confirmed the relationship was the Egg Cargo was a Bio-Weapon used by the Space Jockey but he for many years gave no real details.   He did have the idea of some connection between the Xenomorph and Space Jockey were we would be off to a very Alien (Bio-mechanical)World but he never got far as any real production on such a idea.

We then FLASH FORWARDS to the Prequels and Alien Engineers takes the Option 2 route, they also then threw in the CURVE-BALL that the Space Jockey Race are actually Alien Beings, Creators and the Race who mankind had interpreted as Gods... The Xenomorph being a Weapon they would use to Eradicate Failed/Rebellious Experiments/Creations.

Prometheus Evolved from this and decided that actually we DO-NOT need any Xenomorphs or Answers as per-say but loosely touch upon the Bio-Warfare these beings had created to deal with a Wayward Creation and to explore the Creation/Gods themes more.

AT THIS POINT...

The Xenomorph was relegated to merely a Weapon, and is to the Engineers as what maybe Gunpowder and its various Weaponized uses are for Mankind...

The Space Jockey was relegated to being a 7.5ft Tall Suited Humanoid, and while interesting, it just lacked the AWE inspiring Nature and Mystery of the Space Jockey.....  But these could be explored more in a SEQUEL..

We ALAS arrive at ALIEN: COVENANT

Were our Engineers are not painted as being even more Human, and brushed under the Carpet, Relegating them even further from the Mystery and Enigma of the Space Jockey.

We are given the Xenomorph Origins.... but again its role is merely a Creation that is Created to be used as a Destructive Force against Mankind, but only this time...  The CURVE-BALL is the Organism is a Creation of the Human Created David Android...  its interesting and fits with the Philosophical Themes Prometheus was exploring...  But on the other hand, it brings the Xenomorph to be something that is FAR from Ancient and really does not Stand Up to the Enigma of the Cargo of Eggs we FIRST DISCOVERED in ALIEN.

The Xenomorph was also not used well in the movie too, it failed to live up to the Stealthy Alien in ALIEN and also the Action was no-where near as good as ALIENS and we basically got a Rushed Alien 3 kind of encounter.

So its stands NOW that the Xenomorph and Space Jockey are FAR from ALIEN as the Original Image we had in our heads the VERY FIRST time anyone sees the Derelict/Space Jockey and Egg Cargo Scene in ALIEN.

THIS ^^^ Last Paragraph is the Problem we are dealing with, and Totally different to how many could have envisioned.

"Were our Engineers are not painted as being even more Human"

I cant seem to Edit, as the Edit page is blank... so i meant to say Were our Engineers are  NOW painted as being even more Human.

Option 1) Was pretty much the Relationship between the Cargo and Derelict and Pilot was in STARBEAST.

Option 2) Was pretty much where Alien Engineers and then Prometheus had taken us, with Alien Covenant then throwing in the David Creator Curveball... which is a big disappointment for the Majority of Fans.

Option  3) Is where i think there is SAVING GRACE for the Franchise, by exploring this, with Unused Elements from Star Beast and taking into account the ideas that HR Giger had... while the Prometheus Themes could still apply as to Rebellion by the Engineers.

This was in part what i was going to introduce in my 3rd Part of Prometheus, after working on my Canceled Prometheus 2 Project.