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dkAlien: Covenant ForumIdeas for alien-movies

Leto There is a lot of room for being dark and scary in the Alienverse without the Xeno we already know about. Dark machinations were always at work.

 

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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumXenomorph the End is Nigh?

dk

I am keeping that approach in-mind...but will test as I go. Less-is-more after all.
But it's a valid idea and if I can make the burst-moments work properly, yes!! :D

...and The Alien should always have some secrets left unanswered. ;)

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dkAlien: Covenant ForumXenomorph the End is Nigh?

Blackwinter-witch Having little bursts from the xeno perspective sprinkled throughout could be interesting and possibly become just as memorable of a character as anyone else in the cast.

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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumXenomorph the End is Nigh?

dk

I can do a little more from the viewpoint of The Alien.

In the sequel, I might add some moments like that in.

In ORIGIN, you'll get a rather unique and involved viewpoint from The Alien's way of experiencing life. :)

That's all I will say, no spoilers, not with ORIGIN. :)

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dkAlien: Covenant ForumXenomorph the End is Nigh?

The Xeno can continue but keeping it interesting might be the challenge. I hate to be a broken record (remember those?) but BWW's PERSPECTIVE was a unique take on actually BEING the xeno. It seems like it would be very tricky to sustain a story like that for a longer one. It would be interesting to see a short film like that. The closest I saw was The Alien Covenant VR video In Utero:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2OQ6wT0whA

 

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BlackAntAlien: Covenant ForumIdeas for alien-movies

Leto

Hey thanks for letting us all know about the WY book Alien: Covenant - Origins....I will be investigating that soon.

Leto I agree with you very much on many points...Alien could use some new fresh movie ideas to make it super scary.

But I have to admit there is something so appealing to me about the idea soap opera type shows or movies that for one reason or another takes a break from the Alien per say.

Sometimes we all just take a pause, in life, in fiction, and in movies too!

I was not into space soap operas before; but, I really enjoy them now...may I recommend the old Dune and the new Dune coming out.

I know that space dramas are not everyone's cup of tea but I really like them now.....I really liked the drama mixed within AC and the much better horror effects...for me it made the characters in AC more real....so for me the characters seemed like they were taking a beating and it made me hate David even more. Good drama should do that....and I do!!! I hate David's character in the fictional setting of AC....terrible android right.

I think what everyone is trying to do here is important as a process...we are performing a very important logical test out loud, if you will go along with it, it is very important we get a chance to participate....we are constructing a make-believe world; however, we are all adults so when we do "suspension of disbelief", one of the most important aspects of fiction - sometimes it can take a long process of presenting ideas out load so others may critique them. 

These are all great ideas that can certainly be worked on and a really interesting story can be crafted with them....in other words we might like to take this a bit further and put some meat on the bones in another formal setting through chat where we can talk about it more.

I know the ideas may not appeal you to directly but please accept the process which we all must adhere to. We all get more out of this the more we participate. 

I come here primarily to hear! / read - what others are saying because I like to write myself and learn how others understand this fictional world....give this a chance my friend you will see there is much more going on here.

Every once in a great while you come across almost complete perfection....No offence but BWW is harvesting some real good stuff from this back and forth and that is perfectly ok...because so am I....it's all good! I promise no one will be harmed LOL by any one of us suggesting new ideas!

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KongzillaAlien: Covenant ForumIdeas for alien-movies

What exactly do you mean by a "fresh approach"?

What will the characters do? Discuss salary? Or make secret deals? How does this relate to the Alien?! It's like, well, you know - RbW - a story about an android who builds his kind world. Sounds boring and does not relate to the Alien at all. It's the same with WY - create a similar show and don't waste Alien resources on third-party nonsense.

Even the story of the life of a certain colony (like Hadley's Hope) will be more interesting than anything about WY. Create a city, place some secrets under the planet's surface. Show exploration, survival and nightmarish consequences. You can even put multiple agents from different warring corporations and add blissful androids. And this already sounds more interesting than the "fresh approach" with discussions about salaries.

Btw, the book about WY is already out - it's called Alien: Covenant - Origins.

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dkAlien: Covenant ForumIdeas for alien-movies

Leto Seegson could definitely be involved. Isolation brought that up as did Resurrection with Walmart. I don't expect it to be done but it would be an aspect of the Alienverse I would like to see. It doesn't have to have any characters who have appeared in the films- maybe a few brief nods but that's it. It would be more of an origins series of WY.

I would like to see how that part developed. It might sound boring to you, but I think it could be a fresh approach. 

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KongzillaAlien: Covenant ForumIdeas for alien-movies

Good idea... for a book! Not for a film or TV series - just a wasted time & potential to explore NEW ALIEN WORLDS.

 

dk

I hope you understand, that it sounds much more boring than 6 more films about David and his world. How far can we go after WY? Stories about the lives of individual (deceased) characters? Stories about Jones and Spike?

This is all a distraction from the main route. It's just a waste of time and resources on secondary things.

I'll ask one question - if you have a decade to get ONE and ONLY ONE project in the Alien universe - will you choose WY's dark machinations over new stories about Alien, Engineers, other worlds with any new creatures ?

 

P.S. I can’t resist the second snide question - what's the point of getting hung up on WY, but not on Seegson or any other new corporation? 

The franchise has already suffered from the fact that fixated on Ripley. And people don't seem to have enough discernment to realize that WY is also looping and destroying the franchise.

 

 

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dkAlien: Covenant ForumIdeas for alien-movies

I would like to see more WY focus. It's always been there and really didn't seem to get much focus until Resurrection and the prequels. 

We know the beasts are vicious, the military presence does its thing and the androids have received a lot of attention.

I want to see the dirty deeds and back room "drug deals" that WY is up to. Maybe it involves greasing politicians, manipulating the public for support that makes them feel great about being blinded into their funding programs that makes them guinea pigs. Make them feel good and proud about being sheep led to the slaughter and realizing the truth after it's too late.

Not an original idea, but it could be interesting in the Alienverse.

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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant Forum to which star system the heroes of Prometheus were invited

hox

So do I, I spend a lot of time thinking about all kinds of sci-fi stuff...kinda self-evident. :D

Been playing with that site and I love it, I really do!!
I have a mouse with adjustable dpi, and whenI run it up to maximum, I get a really fine degree of control...and am hunting for Zeta II Reticuli...I know it's in there somewhere...has to be.

 

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hoxAlien: Covenant Forum to which star system the heroes of Prometheus were invited

Hey, no problem. I like thinking about this kind of stuff.

Yes, that site is awesome, isn’t it. There are some real bright sparks at Google. It works really well on an iPad, where you can easily pinch to zoom, and rotate super smoothly. I particularly like how you can zoom right out to see most of the Galaxy and, if you rotate the view to see it edge on, how  thin the galactic plane is, relatively speaking.

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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant Forum to which star system the heroes of Prometheus were invited

hox

 

THANK-YOU for the link to that site....it is AWESOME!! It's an incredible new tool for me to handle research with regarding astronomy and such for my work!!!! :D
(((HUG)))

Ty for telling me what you thought of my idea!! I'll be handing it to my Chimerans, of course, and Ty for being a sounding-board! :)

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hoxAlien: Covenant Forum to which star system the heroes of Prometheus were invited

Sounds perfectly logical to me, BWW. If you're looking for a reference frame that is independent of any particular culture, I'd say that's a sound choice. Go for it!

NB, for interested readers of this thread, I came across a very neat website today. It shows a 3D map of a huge number of stars. If you find a star of interest, you can click on its name to see its info. Then when you click the return button, the 3D map is centred on the star you looked at. You can then spin the view around, and zoom in and out. It's a great way to see how the appearance of stars in the sky truly depends on where you're looking from.

Unfortunately, I don't see an easy way to search for stars by name (e.g. Zeta 2 Reticuli).

Maybe Big Dave has a few days spare to hunt it down, and show how the stars would appear from there!

100,000 Stars

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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: Manticore sequel update

The Sequel is progressing, and there is a tie-in short story along with it--as mentioned--that covers the short flight between the Zeta II and Zeta I star systems.

The sequel will lead to a third story, so yes this will be a trilogy.

In the third story, there is absolutely NO 'script-immunity' for anyone or anything. 
BUT, that should not be taken to suggest I'll be engaging in a slaughter. It simply means that everyone and everything is 'fair game'.

I like to work 'without a net'. :)

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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumNew Writer

Dhogmeat

Loved what you said in this post!!

Just a small example of one point I really liked!!

"One thing I like about how things are not explained alot is the horror of finding out theres no deeper meaning to things we see when rummaging around in some creapy old engineer ruins."

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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant Forum to which star system the heroes of Prometheus were invited

hox

You make good-points about 'Sun-Centric' and they are logical, practical I admit.

But, in the questing for a truly 'Baseline Universal' standard, I'd like to ask your opinion on the following:

1; Base Center is the Hypermassive Black Hole
2; The Starting Reference (12 o' clock) is the fastest rotating Pulsar in the galaxy.

This is a point for me because while solar-centric makes absolute sense as I conceded above, my Chimerans do not think like Humans or Engineers, and are developing/coming to understand their own cultural and psychological customs which affects their choice and use of solar-centrism as much as psychological customs do Humanity's and the Engineer's choices in doing so.
They have no current Home System, they reside in the Lakota system in the Hyades but to them they are 'guests' while searching for a system to claim as their own home...thus trying to base things off the Lakota system's star would feel too much to them as 'wrongful claiming'.

They would want a Universal Baseline Standard as a hedge in case starships get lost due to nav errors or whatever comes up.
This way, even if a starship suffers a complete and absolute erasure of all it's charts and nav data, that data base can be easily rebuilt using ship sensors and the Universal Baseline Navigational Reference.
As well, it makes it easier to translate nav databases collected from, say Engineer or other being's nav systems and charts.

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Roger GAlien: Covenant Forum to which star system the heroes of Prometheus were invited
@Hox there is no canon in Alien universe, even a map to stick to planets location. Origae-6 should be Delta Aurigae is the Bayer designation for an astrometric binary star in the constellation Auriga.
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hoxAlien: Covenant Forum to which star system the heroes of Prometheus were invited

Unknown. It was an uncharted system that they came across during the journey to Origae-6. And as to where Origae-6 is located, that's another question... May be a corruption of the constellation Auriga.

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MichartAlien: Covenant Forum to which star system the heroes of Prometheus were invited

To wich star system went to Covenant ? Anyone guess what Constelation is IT?

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DhogmeatAlien: Covenant ForumNew Writer

One thing I like about how things are not explained alot is the horror of finding out theres no deeper meaning to things we see when rummaging around in some creapy old engineer ruins. For example the black goo, in my opinion it kills you, or it creates monsters designed to mop up any survivors. It does not create, nor does it have any deeper meaning other than its a biowepon made it kill you dead. I think as fascinated the engineers might be at a fully functioning xenomorph, they would consider it a failure because you can imagine that the black goo does its job and clears out a planet, the creatures it spawns die off after a time. The xeno on the other hand, survives and its eggs ley dormant indefinatly. If you attacked a planet with a cargo full of eggs, then that planet is effectively ruined. 

 

Thank you for the advice as well. Appreciate it alot.

 

 

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setaverdeAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTER

‘Raised by Wolves’: Ridley Scott Explains That Monstrous Finale

Scott, who created the look of the HBO Max sci-fi thriller, and the showrunner Aaron Guzikowski discuss the Season 1 finale and also address criticism leveled at the show.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/arts/television/raised-by-wolves-finale-ridley-scott.html

 

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Roger GAlien: Covenant ForumIdeas for alien-movies
All of them can be interesting and are complementary elements, it is essential to clarify that it is not about those elements, all about to get a good script and a convincing and solid story. Puting aside storyboards and sketches, invest your time in crushing your brains!
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Roger GAlien: Covenant ForumThe Space Jockey
leaving out Prometheus the more closest thing I'ever seen about Spacey Jockey has been in the last Ep. 10 RBW and including Ep 9 about the Spacey Jockey, but the timeline diverges according to Newsweek and recent comments from RS on Reddit. Technically, the timelines work on this. The first Alien is set in the year 2122, with Ripley (Sigourney Weaver) waking up 57 years later 2179 in Aliens. Raised By Wolves, meanwhile, is set at some point in the 22nd century, meaning the latest it could be set is 2199.
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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumXenomorph the End is Nigh?

I for one will keep it alive, but as I have mentioned I'm sending the critter off on a long Vacation.

I have exactly ZERO influence on the industry, and frankly that's just a-ok with me...put me in the same room with Giler and Hill the world would see me nuclear scorch-earth their egos and leave them bawling in the corner.

I've looked into their involvement with ALIEN franchise, and I really have to say they have Earned my hatred and contempt of them.

I will finish up the appearances of The Alien in my works and leave leave it alone thereafter...but it will NOT be gone.

The Audience will be privy to an in-universe secret guaranteeing it's spectre of menace shall hang over the galaxy for ages and eons to come.

Less Is More.

That said, I might reference Ripley, but she will never set an active foot in my universe. That character has had her time.
I have to admit though, it's fun to ponder how she'd react to Chimerans aboard ship...

And as we have all been saying, it's a BIG universe with so many, many other stories to tell about new encounters, new threats, new wonders.

 

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Roger GAlien: Covenant Forum ALIEN TV Miniseries From Noah Hawley been pitched to Execs...
Budget would be very expensive and the investment too, Disney will bet more on Star Wars Universe than ALIEN so I don't think so. A Scott-directed movie is more feasible, but could be even worse than Covenant. Just look at RBW Guzikowski after finishing 1 tv season, in topless and out of ideas, RBW 2 season will start shooting at the beginning of next year, (he said) and he does not even know which way to go, he has run out, I haven't seen more script holes in my life.
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KongzillaAlien: Covenant ForumXenomorph the End is Nigh?

Each new film introduces the xenomorph in a different way.

OG Big Chap in Alien.

Hive warriors + Queen in Aliens.

Animal-like guardian in Alien 3.

Mixed clones-mutants + hybrid in Alien Resurrection.

Deacon + all other things in Prometheus.

Neomorph + praetomorph in Alien Covenant.

I don't understand what kind of development and evolution we are talking about? It's already here. We even gave up the facehugger, and got a trilobite + motes + predalien instead. Evolution is already here.

Perhaps you are talking about other ways of birth? If this is something new, but "usual", then... better not! Generic things don't fit the Alien Universe.

It looks like you are simply repeating Ridley's metaphysical sayings. He talks about it all the time, but the only time he tried to introduce new things (Engineers, Black Goo) - he avoided talking about them! Do we need new things to avoid exploring them? Do we need new things to try to milk the viewer over 6-10 sequels with an endless promise to explore them? Is there a convincing answer here?

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumXenomorph the End is Nigh?

"This is a kind of sabotage, hooliganism"

I get the Impression that the Addition of the Xenomorph is NOT what Ridley Scott had wanted, it seems he was FORCED to include it.  Maybe he did go OK so i am Forced to Abort my Ideas for Prometheus 2 to give them the Xenomorph, well lets SEE what they like ONCE i make my David the Creator...... but then we cant RULE out Hill and Giler as far as Influence on the Synthetic Creator Plot.

I dont really want this to become another (WHAT REALLY) was Wrong with the Prequels Debate or a David could NOT have Created it Debate as those have been more COOKED than the Xenomorph ;)

Ridley Scott is RIGHT in My Opinion with when he had said their is ONLY so much Face Hugging, Chest Bursting and Snarling that you can do.

Also when he says that you can have the Xenomorph but you have to CHANGE IT and EVOLVE IT.

I think after ALIENS then you had to UPLIFT or EVOLVE it, we HAD to wait until Alien Resurrection before we saw some Success to a Degree of WHAT a Company could do with the Xenomorph in its Possession.

With AR then the Potential was with Ripley 8 as FAR as what can be done with the Xenomorph DNA... Regarding the Xenomorphs though, they appear to be the SAME and thats a Snarling Aggressive Species that can be USED to Eradicate a Enemy but you have a Infestation on your Hands.....

WHAT would Happen and HOW do you Re-Engineer it to Control it?  Or can you input some-kind of KILL SWITCH to it or Limited Life Span?  Then as a Bio-Weapon it makes more Sense.

OR... can the Xenomorph Evolve, either Naturally or via Experiments like we saw with the Apes in Planet of the Apes.

so you can UPLIFT the Xenomorph that way as IF you Continue with the Space Termites Formula you get Action, Death, Guns... but then you could END UP with a Starship Troopers with a ONE TRICK PONY.

I think that after ALIENS we should have looked at Evolving and Uplifting the Xenomorph, and Alien Ressurection gave us some INSIGHT into this.. but it was FLAWED, and also the Queen had become Tarnished a bit.. and the NewBorn was more a Ambomination.

AVP gave us the Xenomorph in a Movie that was Executed a bit like ALIENS, as a Non-Canon alternative Universe the PLOT was Decent... just having it on Earth in the 20th Century was a Mistake...

AVPR had turned the Xenomorph more into a JOKE

Alien Covenant had attempted to UPLIFT the Xenomorph but all it had done was to TIE the THEMES of Creation etc and ARC of wanting to be a Creator with the Xenomorph via Davids Arc, but this just Elevated David and Diminished the Xenomorph for Many...

As it NOW had became NOT really ALIEN.

I think we have to FORGET about the PAST... ignore the Origins..

We have to LOOK at what this Perfect Organism can do as far as EVOLVE or HOW it could be Engineered.. and WHAT is the Hubris of this ;)

The Xenomorph is NOT DEAD... but you have to be Careful... if its OVER DONE or done BAD then its NOT FAR from that FINAL NAIL in the Coffin...

UNTIL YEARS down the Line they REBOOT the LOT. (but will it be Different?)

Regarding RS its a SHAME as he had ideas on how to Uplift the Xenomorph before Cameron came along, it was NOT the Fault of JC though.... RS was Busy and JC had kind of Uplifted what to do with the Xenomorph, the QUEEN had made Sense, it was Equally as Iconic.

After Aliens it went WRONG... because JC had introduced the Space Termites... but this merely opened up the Potential that the Xenomorph could have been a Pres-Existing Species the Space Jockey had encountered and tried to EXPLOIT.

But it also could have been a Creation, in which we see the Organism is VERY ADAPTIVE....

What Would become of Hadleys Hope had all the Sulaco Crew been Killed?  So WHAT becomes of a HIVE in say 6 Months,  a Year, 10 Years or 100 Years...

Do the Xenomorphs just remain like Space Ants/Termites?

They are more Intelligent than Ants/Termites but what is the LIMIT to their Existence?

Or WHAT would Happen if you try to Exploit the Xenomorph and Meddle with it?  Could you TRIGGER a Unwanted Evolution of the Species?

At the Begining the Beast was more than Meets the EYE.... but a lot of what the STARBEAST was has been LOST.

Can that be Resrected and passed onto the Xenomorph?

Or maybe you can Resurrect the Starbeast Ideas in the Form of something that EVOLVES from the Xenomorph or something that Pre-existed the Xenomorph and LV-223!

For EXAMPLE..... could the ULTRAMORPH be something of a Future Evolution?  Or is this the ALPHA and the Origin to all that Happened on LV-223?

Or do we STICK with the Xenomorph? 

Then do you UPLIFT or EVOLVE it or if you think "its NOT broken then DONT Fix It" but can you Spawn out another 3-4 Movies with that Formula?

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KongzillaAlien: Covenant ForumIdeas for alien-movies

1, 5, 6, 8.

 

The corporation should be in the background.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumIdeas for alien-movies

1, 6 and 8

These could all be Covered in the SAME Context, by Exploring the Engineers, surely the Earth is NOT the only place that they had Created/Evolved,Taught and Interacted with Intelligent Life and Humanoids and MAYBE the Earth is NOT the ONLY place the Engineers had Seeded Humans.

Do we EVEN come from Earth?

"6. Other life-forms on other planets"

This ONE in Particular could be Explored with a TV Show, where you DONT even have to Feature the Engineers or NOT a lot.

Its LIKELY they had Seeded other Worlds, and maybe some WORLDS they had NOT... with Human Expansion into the COSMOS then SOME DAY its Possible that Humans from Earth could come across another Civilization.

OR.... have the Engineer Seeded any Hostile Organisms, are these on Purpose, or by Accident or WHAT becomes of Worlds that the Bio-Weapon was deployed on?

With Alien Covenant we see something like this... with the Neomorph, but WHAT would have became of Planet 4 say if David had Died after the Juggernaught Crash.... what Happens to a Place like Planet 4, 50, 100, 200, 500 Years after the Pathogen has Deployed?

So YES there is Plenty they can do with the ALIEN Franchise, it does-not have to be about Ripley and Xenomorphs ;)

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KongzillaAlien: Covenant ForumXenomorph the End is Nigh?

No, it cannot.

Ridley is wrong. It's like: "I hate X, but I have to put X in the story, so I intend to screw up X and say: «See, this doesn't work, the beast is cooked!!!»" This is a kind of sabotage, hooliganism.

And Ridley can't be right because... why? Because he's not the cornerstone of the franchise. He's just "one of". Books, toys, comics, video games, board games, etc. Everything proves that the xenomorph is more alive than all living things. We just have one person who is unhappy with X and wants to persuade others to his point of view. That's all.

For all who don't need an Alien - there is RbW. A great example of how you don't have to screw up the X franchise for your dubious ideas.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumIdeas for alien-movies

"2. WY, and what they might be up to"

Quite a LOT i would imagine, not Restricted to Flute Playing Androids and Chasing Xenomorphs.  It would seem that Space Travel/Exploration and to Exploit the Resources of Space and Colonize Worlds is RIGHT UP there on their List of Priorities.

Yes their may be other THINGS they do on Earth/Mars but i think as FAR as a Movie.... but more SO a TV Series then the Exploration of Space has to be where it is at.

Their is a LOT to Gain from Space, and a LOT to Loose.. "in Space No-One can Hear you Scream" and so we know that Space can be Hostile, you cant Survive in Space as you depend on your Ships and Technology and WHEN things GO WRONG.... your a LONG WAY from Home.

Even when you Find a WORLD we see that NOT ALL of them are Habitable without Space Suits, and even Worlds that ARE then WHO KNOWS to what Dangers lie Ahead.

"3. Marines, have they been used for other adventures just than in Aliens."

Absolutely and i think again a TV Series is more Suited to this.

Just another Bug Hunt could indicate the Marines have had to DEAL with other Hostile Life Forms... just they have NEVER had to Encounter anything like the Xenomorph.  If the W-Y company are Building Better Worlds and we KNOW about their Corporate Greed, if they Discover a IDEAL WORLD but their is some THREAT that is Native to the World that could be a Problem to their Plans then they could CALL IN the Marines.

They would also likely be Dealing with ROGUE COLONISTS, and Terrorists, and Rival Nations/Military.  But also to take CARE of any Malfunctioning or Rebellious Synthetics ;)

What do they do for DOWN TIME?  And so we know some like to have that Articulan Poontang ;)

"4. Corporate law-making and police. Weyland-Yutani is big"

I think again a TV Series could cover this, surely the Company would be Protective of its Resources and Technology, and sure they would have some Rivalries.  And also such things could be looked at PRIOR to the Merger when Surely with Weyland and Yutani had to be Rivals.

"5. Xenos as medicine, who’s to say that they can only be used as bio-weapons?"

Indeed we have been their done that and WORN the T-Shirt, i think we could ASK is there more to be GAINED than using the Xenomorph as merely a Aggressive, Deadly and Invasive Species as a Eradication Tool.

Surely the W-Y Company have better (Nukes and Biological Warfare) and for the Engineers then the Black Goo is a FAR BETTER kind of Eradication Tool.

So WAS/IS there other Reasons the Engineers had a Interest in them? Could their be more to Gain for the Weyland-Yutani Company?

I think a MOVIE could Cover this.... i think if we LOOK at Ripley 8 we can see the Xenomorph DNA has a BETTER USE.

"7. Androids and how they use androids in their corporate take-over of the world"

I think their is a LOT to the A.I that can be covered in a NUMBER of Ways, but if we look at something more BASIC then Synthetics could be Explored more in Context to the Rivalry that Weyland and Yutani had... surely Yutani had their own Robots... maybe Part of the Merger is a Desire for Weyland Technology in regards to Synthetics... the Prometheus Viral site did indicate a Technological Rivalry and a PATENT Dispute regarding SYNTHETICS.

Also with Alien Resurrection we have the AUTONS a A.I that was Created by A.I and in a TV Spin Off this could be Explored.

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Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumXenomorph the End is Nigh?

I don't think that you need to keep the franchise to neither Ripley nor the Xeno. There are different ways to expand the franchise, I wrote a topic about it titled Ideas for alien-movies, please respond to it if you want.

There could be new monsters, we've already have the Hammerpede, Xeno-fifield which wasn't really a Xeno, the Newborn even though it looked like crap. Yes the franchise could expand without the Xeno.

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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumCentral Repository for BWW Stories & Works

dk

That was the 'dartboard' I was aiming for and it seems I managed to hit it. :D
Thank-You again for the compliments and the analysis! It's always a HUGE relief to a writer to get proof that people see what your intent was, and also that what you were trying to say came out properly.

It's the sort of thing one can ONLY get from Outside/External Perspective.

Manticore's crew, like many others....think about what happens to your life, friendships and family ties due to hypersleep?
A 10 month trip, you wake up 10-months out of synch, and have aged about a minute...everyone else has aged 10 months, and perhaps some of those you loved have died, been mourned and people have moved on...leaving you to grieve alone.
Just hypersleep itself is a messed-up thing, with what it does to your life....and in the end, the ONLY people you end up having any real, sustainable connection with...is your crew.
How precious are those people then to you?

Then there's all the other associated problems with life in the ALIENverse aside from drooling skull-crunching horrors...clients trying to screw you out of being paid for a job, corporations trying to force you and the other 'small fry' out of traffic corridors that they want to take over, the very real possibility of pirates/raiders and the like, a nice, normal freight run...and the clients have loaded the cargo with some 'dubious' materials and you and your crew get left holding the bag. Then there's the possibility of a trade war...involving tariffs and rail gun shots.

Yeah, life in the ALIENverse is seriously messed-up even without looking outside just 'business as usual' amongst Humanity...start adding in The Unknown and the Lovecraftian...well, then you count yourself damn lucky to have a crew as tightly-knit together by the common suffering of hypersleep as you have.

And if you start off with a foundation like Sin and Selina did, then you have that extra bit going for you as well.

And in the ALIENverse, that little extra bit can make a huge difference, right?

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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumIdeas for alien-movies

just that list alone could spawn a number of successful shows, all seperate yet connected, set in the ALIENverse!!!

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setaverdeAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTER

Raised by wolves 

Season finale

Ending explained

WOW

https://youtu.be/-Hoe7kafmhU

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumNew Writer

Thoughts_Dreams

Loved your advice and things to ponder you said to Dhogmeat !! :)

Believe, I read through it, and took notes!

 I've been pondering the Engineers since Prometheus first struck my eyes.
 My short story ORIGIN is an extremely experimental piece but expands upon some things learned about the Engineers in ALIEN: Manticore.
 It's taking longer than I intended as there's the adverse effects on me from The Enemy, but also because it's something I am being very, very careful with regarding details and canon, continuity and Plausibility.
 That said is does offer some thoughts/answers/plausible reasons why the population of Planet-4 looked so different from the LV-223 Engineers.
 The Alien does figure in to the story, but only insofar as is Necessary...think 'cameo' basically. lol
I've established that Shadowfall and indeed the Lakota star system (Mentioned in PALOMINO and ALIEN: Manticore) was NOT a work of the Engineers, nor was Earth...despite what Shaw thinks.
 I will say this;
 There was a War In The Heavens, and as Shaw learned, everything she thought about The Engineers was 'wrong, we were so wrong!' :D

 After the sequel to ALIEN: Manticore, I'm sending The Big Chap off an Vacation. I will not be writing anything involving The Alien directly for quite some time after the sequel.
 Tall, dark and slobbery needs a sabbatical. 

 And, as you point out...it's a BIG universe and there's Other Things out there to challenge Humanity on every level.

 

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Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: A AWAKENING

BWW:

A Xeno-vacation could maybe look like this

 

Not sure how it would react when it understands that it forgot the swimming-trunks. :D

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Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: A AWAKENING

Hox: I like the idea of a movie that is more like Giger would have imagined how it would look like. I’m also agreeing about getting to know more about the Engineers, however I would like to keep the origin of the goo as a secret. One of the things about the franchise that makes it good is the mystery and if you get rid of that then it reduces the quality.

They tried to explain things in Prometheus and Covenant and the result has been so and so at best at least about the mystery-part. For example if they go back in the prequels and explain that this is how the Weyland company started, this is exactly how the Xeno got made, and so on then it would take away a lot of what is interesting, at least to me. When you remove one mystery you got to replace it with a better one, and I am not sure of that can be done at least if we look at how the prequels have dealt with it even though I find the Engineers and the goo to be interesting.

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