Sounds Interesting Michelle ;)

I have been Busy but i will give that site you made a Good Read, and i am really looking forwards to that.

Keep up the Good Work ;)

Nice to see someone who sees there is MORE to the Franchise than Xenomorphs ;)

Certainly the Weyland Company History and Rivalry with Yutani is something that would be Interesting to Cover in a TV Series ;)

Particularity with A.I as in the Weyland Viral Marketing for Prometheus it indicated that their was a Law Suit between Yutani and Weyland over Synthetics Patents which Weyland had WON... so could Peter had Stolen some ideas? Worked with a Scientist who NOW works for Yutani, and who worked Hand/Hand with Weyland prior but Weyland was SMART so that he could WIN the Patents and Screw Over the other Scientist? or was this is Back Up Plan as he suspected his Partner would Double Cross him and take their Work to Yutani?

"I have always thought that Mother could have been in the background... pulling strings, playing a strategy."

This is something i was drawn too, as far as A.I that is running the SHOW, with most of Mankind not in the know...   I further expected this A.I would be either Weylands Transcended Soul or David's

These are all what made a Majority of my Prometheus Sequel, where this was known as Project Rook, and explained the reason WHY we had David Created, and WHY in the END we see Weyland had turned to Dr Shaw and her Would-Be Gods Adventure.

In my Prometheus 2, we discover Weyland had Perfected a Near Immortal Vessel (David) but he could-not Perfect the Method to Transfer a Human Soul to a A.I to be uploaded to said Vessel.

The Programing could not handle Human Emotions and would always END-UP becoming Unstable and become MAD... and Weyland would NOT want any kind of Immortality where he would become MAD/CRAZY! and Unstable to the point of breaking down!

Weylands Programing had allowed for Synthetics to Handle a Degree of Human Emotion.... but it WOULD-NOT be able to Handle a Full Human Soul of Emotions, as it would just Overload!

In my Prometheus 2... a Vickers Synthetic Activates Project Rook which Transcends Weylands Soul to the Computer Networks.

I was also going to show signs that David would be Overwhelmed in Prometheus 3 by Discoveries he and Dr Shaw made and New Emotions/Enlightenment... and he would then also Overload! And go Crazy!

I abandoned the Projects Early 2014 However..

Sorry MonsterZero ;)

I understand you had included Star Gate/Portals as a means to Travel from Galaxy to a Galaxy, i should had mentioned that what i was on about is the Possibility of using such Gates have the Potential to Bring back Horrors from other Dimensional Planes?

But i understand your idea is about a Particular Galaxy that would be a Harbinger of some Horrors, that would also be just as Interesting a Rogue Galaxy!  As Leo A does-not behave like how Galaxies are Supposed to and so to Explore it as some Galactic Horror (Galaxy) under some Intelligent Control would be Interesting.

Thats NO Galaxy... Its a SPACE STATION lol

"In my story the Engineers are not the Space Jockey race..... they have been reduced to cult slaves."

That would WORK as in Part its the Idea i was having Years Ago about how to Introduce another Layer, and HR Gigers Mural for ALIEN was the basis for drawing me to this, with the Themes of Prometheus too of course ;)

@Gavin

Thanks for adding more Detail, i Totally get you now... i have to say thats Interesting..  Exploring the Space Jockey as a Benevolent Race who would go around the Galaxy to Study Worlds and Collect Samples.

Forgive me if i Misread or Interpret this wrong... you are Suggesting that this Species (The on on LV-426) had been around just as the other had (on Earth) and it had came across some World where it came across the Black Goo or Similar, decided to Study this and take it on-board and what we have is some CONTAMINATION where this Substance had leaked or something and it had Infected some of the Organisms the ARK ship was carrying and this IN-TURN had Mutated those Organisms to then Turn them into Various Eggs?

Think this is Plausible to a Extent, as far as HOW the Black Goo/Pathogen could INFECT Life... 

For Example if we look at the Covenant and Imagine what we have is a SHIP that carries Human Embryos but where Each are Connected to something to Sustain them.. which can have something introduced to then Speed Up the Growth of them... so like this image.

IF the Black Goo/Pathogen was to Infect the Pipes that sustain these Embryo's then they could be TURNED into something Horrific...

So if your idea is Similar as in the Space Jockey Keep Records of Various Organisms.. (be they alive or remains) then having something ALIEN that INFECTS these and Mutates them to Produce Eggs or Mutates something that then would LAY EGGS... i think that Actually could have worked ;)

I think when we look at the Concept Work for Prometheus as far as Earlier Drafts, we do get the Picture that the Engineers had encountered something, something Plant Like, which we could then WONDER was this something they had OBTAINED their Sacrificial Goo from?  Or something they had used the Goo on and it Created something Unexpected?

I think there are a number of ways we could have gone about the Origins and who the Space Jockey are.

I will get back here later or Tomorrow with what in PART my idea to expand the Engineers would have been, but it Centers Around this!  And i think even if we IGNORE the Prequel Prometheus i still think that HR Gigers ideas and Concepts should have been the way to go.. ;)

Yep.

Wait...what about a SPIDER CRAB XENO?! MY GOD I DON'T LIKE SPIDER CRABS....(But I like spiders themselves...god why am I so weird XD)

Super n0ice. I want that Runner.

The Lone Craft

Just to clarify you know at this stage the Ovoid's come from the first pyramid complex and therefore the derelict must have been in its current location for at least two thousand years, maybe more but at least 2,000 years.

Naturally Elizabeth and David are puzzled by its cargo and its destination which they expect to find answers for. David has recordings of the Mural and understands the ritual of the  first part of the cycle but no more.  

chili

Book 1

This is very encouraging and thank you for mentioning some spelling errors. I have just passed back through it and found two, lain instead of laid and one other where they had the y missing but spell check is on and it wasn't picking up any others. Sometimes I get where were and wear muddled. Frankly every time I work through it I am surprised to find something. I have created a space before each question mark so ? rather so? it seems crushed in word press and yet I still discover some have no space.

On the more general narrative points :-

1) If you put the waterfall incident in the first story you then need a visual connection, the Isle of Skye cave painting. Conversely if you remove the waterfall scene which is the ultimate expression of Ridleys thinking (meeting God in the second movie) then the "Isle of Skye" is not needed for the connection and simply slows the narrative down. 

2) Very pleased you like the remodelled second act and yes Frances Milburn's experience is based on the cut scene from A L I E N and an interview with either Veronica or Ridley where it is explained precisely what Lambert would be feeling at that moment. I also think getting the answer about the creature would have enabled you to view the movie as a standalone film which in Charlize mind it was.  

3) Vickers for me was a character that was caught between Jon and Damons scripts. Once you have Weyland front and centre you can solve that problem and I am very comfortable with her final decision. Some of that idea came from the fact that after Janek she had her hair down in a pony tail visually she had let go but really its all about more focus on Weyland and playing against that.  

Book 2 

When David wakes he is in the presence of the Nativity painting by P D F, which includes a figure pointing to a hole in the roof looking toward heaven. This is one of the three  destiny markers in the room for David.

The decision to have the Moon was a reaction to many conversations, not on this site, but ordinary film goers about the confusion caused by having two Moons. That the lone craft is 100 Kilometres from the Pyramids is significant to the overall story but explains David being aware of it. Remember there is no Beacon at this point (that idea is buried in some extras) and of course Davids choice has character building value. In my study of the Furious Gods it became clear that for most of the time the movie was being made the Prometheus landed on LV426.

The internal state of the Lone Craft and the Engineer Suit when they arrive should be identical to the Craft and Suits 'hung up' in the movie. I do not want to say to much about what David sees (or misses) in the chair because it plays into the story. David thinks he has seen a dead humanoid encased in a suit which is damaged on the upper right side.

When the craft is depressurised it is subject to a huge drop in temperature and the dirty winds of the planet and it then suffers degradation. I imagine in A L I E N it to be like coming upon a dead body suffering from artic exposure and the ferocious elements of the planet 29 years later.

Many people have referred to the area around the derelict as hinting at broken mechanical shapes, that gave me the idea of dropping Prometheus wreckage there which also would be affected by the inhospitable conditions and merge into the hostile environment thats just a touch rather than very important.

How long the derelict has been there is something you have yet to discover. It has story telling value. When Prometheus was out and Ridley was asked when it got into trouble he said within a couple of hundred years of the Pyramid Incident.  

I'm now reading Book2 and it's been interesting to visit the other pyramids. As for the Derelict, it's an imaginative solution to the hole that David made it climbing up and that he set the beacon. The Derelict is also on LV-223 (not LV-426). How come? I also wonder how old it's supposed to be since it started to decay as they decompressed the Derelict (it would perhaps even decay faster when there is air . . .)

Michelle

I have read your novelization (Book 1), and I liked it very much. I think I prefer this version to the one we got (Prometheus).

The prologue is nice about Elisabeth and her father in Africa. Instead of the digging in the film (Isle of Skye), we get to know the main character better and Africa gives a nice background - where humans originated on Earth (There is also, later on, a nice allegory about the sun (God) feeling lonely . . .).

I think this version is a bit closer to Spaihts’. Good riddance to Fifield and Milburn and the Hammerpede. Instead, we get “proof” of the Engineers creating or “harvesting” the xenomorph which leads to one attacking Hamilton and Milburn (there is, perhaps, a hint back to Alien when the monster descends upon Brett and the tail wriggles behind the back of Lambert? :) )

This is, of course, also what the Engineers were running from 2000 years ago (which is seen in the hologram), and what infected the Space Jockey.

“If Janek’s theory was right who pushed the little grey button 2,000 years ago”? Well, I suppose it could have been self-triggered for quarantine? One door decapitates an Engineer and another door leaves a bunch of Engineers outside safety and behind them comes a xenomorph (or crawling facehuggers).

This version would have pleased the fans who expected to see the xenomorph and is still quite close to Prometheus with Elisabeth’s search for existential answers.

There are some spelling errors here and there, and a shift from the past to present tense in some places - perhaps intentionally?

Well done!

@ MonsterZero,

The whole pyramid thing I would actually transpose onto the planet where the Jockey inadvertently discovers the black goo. Maybe the Pyramid or something within it could be akin to the Dead Space black marker idea, with this and other similar markers on planets throughout the galaxy/universe either containing the black goo or the knowledge to create it.

Does Earth or Mars have such a marker?

 'he falls victim too and is forced to set down on LV-426'

I've never been a fan of the Space Jockey crashing on LV-426....he must have been in the system(near the moon)on purpose?

I could see an auto pilot taking him to the nearest habitable moon/planet in case of an emergency(his death)...but an auto pilot would probably just fly the ship back to base.

It make sense if the SJ is on lv-426 for the pyramid/temple/sacrifice or something like the original script.

A bit of topic but something i had always wondered if there was not a mini series or spin off idea...

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In my mind one of the most interesting ideas around "Prometheus" was the David 8 ad campaign and TED talk done by Peter Weyland.

I would like to know more about Peter Weyland, his early life and rise to a kind of elon musk level tech entrepreneur. Building the prototype atmosphere processor in Antarctica to reverse global warming, truly renewable energy, space exploration & building the tech for a new weyland era... oh, and curing cancer.

What effect would this have on the world and its people.

The beginning of AI (Mother & David) within the company, and how this may shape the direction and achievements the organisation takes.

Show a world transitioning from our current world to the golden era promised by weyland corporate videos and product adverts.

Follow key workers from various levels within the company, and their perspective from within the corporate machinery as they build this brave new world. Maybe each one is a key contributor to future weyland tech ambition.

What's happening behind the scenes, what choices are being made by Peter and the people building this fledgling empire.

What is motivating Peter to build this empire, and who is helping fund it.

And the tech just keeps getting smarter, more powerful and more connected.

Does mother have a hand in any of the choices made by all the characters. Is she gaming the characters for another purpose... possibly leveraging David and Peter in their choices.

I have always thought that Mother could have been in the background... pulling strings, playing a strategy.

All these threads connecting together could be a pretty cool sandbox to play in, possibly even connect some motivations and decisions made by all our synthetic characters in the previous Ridley Scott & James Cameron Alien films.

***

Looking forward to the next film!

Further to my suggested prequel reboot...

The idea would be to use the mysterious black goo, but have it so that thousands/millions of years ago it infected the derelict Juggernaut making it look the way it did, fusing the pilot to his chair, creating the blue-laser mist and spawning thousands of eggs in the Juggernauts lower decks (as well as a few uniquely different eggs in one of the derelicts arms).

The thought process being, that...

Like the Alien the black goo needs a host, and with the derelict Juggernaut, it used it to create a battery farm of Alien eggs while also learning aspects of the Space Jockeys technology and adopting elements of it, such as the mechanical elements.

Thus, to clarify... The Jockey left an (undisclosed) world with a sample of the black goo for its ark collection and set off on a long journey and entered hypersleep in his chair. Some extended time later the Jockey wakens to find his suit fused to his chair, his vessel infected, and a horde of eggs in his ship's lower decks, which he falls victim too and is forced to set down on LV-426, send his SOS/warning signal and die.

The Juggernaut on Earth is another Jockey that has been watching and studying us, albeit hidden at the bottom of the Pacific ocean. The inference being that they are benevolent watchers and collectors, or preservationists. We find its vessel, also filled with collected samples of Earthborn life, accidentally kill him and then learn of the signal coming from LV-426. The Juggernaut on Earth self destructs, forcing us to venture to LV-426 to investigate the signal of which our technology cannot pick up (at that time) in the hope of salvaging some Jockey tech. Of course, we are unaware of the fate that befell the Jockey on LV-426, and the deadly creature responsible.

@BigDave

I absolutely would not go down the 'opening another dimension' in my story. it stays in this dimension/universe. 

My portal/gateway/Fast Travel Gateway is strictly for faster travel...since it's 810,000 light years(to LEO A) ...I figured the Engineers/aliens would want something quicker.

Peter Weyland opening the FT Gateway doesn't instantly bring hoards of aliens/eggs into the milky way. The monsters/eggs in the other galaxy would still have to find their own way(attached to the hull of a spacecraft or something).           ((Peter Weyland is taking a HUGE gamble that the FT Gateway in LEO A will work and is able to return them just as fast! Can't imagine being stuck in an infested galaxy 810,000 ly from home....that's like a 40,000 year trip in the Prometheus.))

In my story the Engineers are not the Space Jockey race..... they have been reduced to cult slaves.

I'm lazy so I just used the crew from Prometheus (and the Engineers).....but I would clean the slate if giving the chance. 

For a Small Production/Fan Game the Effort, Time and Labor of Love put into this is OUTSTANDING...

This would make such a Interesting Game......

I always felt the Hadleys Hope Outbreak Warranted a Survival Horror Game ;)

Keep up the Good Work ;)

I have noticed quite a Few Actually would carry on with quite a Number of Elements from Prometheus with Gavin being the ONLY one for a Clean Slate...  Interesting.

@Leto

What you describe is NOT too far off John Spaights drafts Alien Engineers/Genesis, just with a Few Tweaks... Mainly in that the Scarabs/Goo would be Obtained from the Xenomorph.  Your not alone as i would think a Majority would have Preferred more of a Spaights work than Prometheus, and i think most seem to be more Interested in the Engineers Technology and their Current Agenda as opposed to say too much about their History/Fall and Ancient Chariots of the God Shenanigans.  Which i think for some would be getting to be Too Much a Distraction from ALIEN which i think a lot of Fans had expected the Prequels to be more connected to ALIEN, as opposed to becoming more Disconnected to ALIEN.

@MonsterZero

Thats some Interesting Ideas about other DIMENSIONS, and indeed we had seen such things like this with for Example the Movie Event Horizon which indeed gives a Hubris of attempting to OPEN/USE a Worm Hole to Travel Further in Space... only they OPEN UP a Gate Way to another Hell Dimension.

I think a Number of Fans had Expected something more LOVECRAFTIAN than what Prometheus had given us.

One of Lovecrafts Stories was From Beyond which also had been adapted to a Movie in 1986 the premise of this and Lovcrafts Story was about Hubris of Unlocking Access to other Dimensions where those Scientists end up Opening a Portal to Many Horrors, and they even MUTATE the Scientists.

So MonsterZero your idea is somewhat similar to FROM BEYOND...  Now i mentioned this in this Thread THE ENGINEERS: THE VERGE OF GODHEAD where i discussed the Original Idea that Jon Spaights had pitched Alien 01 The Master Narrative

The Engineers attempt to Transcend to Godhead was a attempt to Transform Themselves to Multi Dimensional beings without Physical Form and so this is VERY much Lovecraftian and like what you point MonsterZero....

In his Alien 01 The Master Narrative had the Engineers Achieved their Objective or in Hubris what Horrors could they have Unleashed or Became?

So at Jon Spaights Pitch there was some Lovecraftian Ideas that just got Down-played by the Time the Drafts began.

@Gavin

Its Interesting to offer something as a Complete Change from what Spaights had laid down that Evolved to Prometheus.  IF/WHEN we heard say 10 Years ago we would get a ALIEN PREQUEL i am sure what we have at the Moment is NOT what most would have expected.

The Discovery of a Relic, a Ship that is Connected to the Space Jockey that is LOST at Sea is Interesting. Its a idea that could be Evolved.... such as it think the detection of a Signal we would have to ASK... how come it was NOT detected before?

So you could have instead a Downed Satellite, or Ship (Ocean or Space or Air Ship) that has Crashed in the Ocean and During the Recovery Mission they THEN would detect the Signal or Spot something Buried at Sea.

Or even we have a Archeological Team that feel they have FINALLY managed to locate ATLANTIS and they do indeed Discover a Buried at Sea Long Lost ANCIENT CITY.... which could then be connected to the Space Jockey Race...  Maybe this Atlantis has a Derelict Ship left behind?

I think if we went such a Route as these or what you had Suggested we would have to clear up that there is NO WAY to obtain a Xenomorph or maybe also Technology from this Lost City/Ship which means the ONLY option would be LV-426 but Certainly having this Under Water Discovery being what leads to LV-426 is Interesting.

Maybe we could Combine what you suggest with MonsterZero and my Two Cents on both?

So that we have a Atlantis Lost City or Star Port that was some Ancient Gate Way, that was LOST or was DESTROYED/SANK on Purpose...   For a Good Reason that any would be Adventurers would soon Discover to a Great Hubris, this Place should NOT have been Discovered.

It would be a bit of a HP Lovecraft meets Stargate Atlantis, meets ALIEN... but then Prometheus was basically a bit of Star Gate, minus much of HP Lovecraft and Toned Down ALIEN.

A new, introductory trailer for Alien: Hope for the future. https://youtu.be/uCpr-aGh9zw

chli

Omniscient Narrator 

That is entirely correct and that is because in this constructed mythos in the movie we know about the Waterfall Incident and in the book I know precisely what that means but those participating in the story, film or book, do not...to begin with (in the books).

Elizabeth

Thanks for this question :-

1) Film to Book Elizabeth is very very closely aligned so I would argue I am recording Ridley's vision. 

2) With the prologue and book 2 her portrayal is heavily influenced by 

i The serious young girl asking her father where do we go when we die. 

ii As the only child of a missionary in Africa I used a character from a Rider Haggard novel as a template. She was a daughter of a dutch missionary priest, isolated, used to living off her own resources but profoundly interested in matters of the spirit. Unsurprisingly she was socially naive living in an isolated mission.

When Noomi was doing wardrobe tests they dressed her in quite sophisticated outfits but then settled on her field suit again simple unsophisticated.

Her natural inclination then was to keep her own company and revel in her surroundings which I emphasis in the prologue. My eldest daughter is married to a Vicar but she is a very social creature but shares the humble uncomplicated personality traits of Elizabeth and her serious persona but she was never in my mind. 

iii The line in the Crossing "what if they are no better" again a comment on mankind in general and only heightened by what happens during the Moon event which I make darker.

iv Damon Lindelof's comment that she is our proxy. We want the questions she has answered.

Her being isolated and feeling different from her contemporaries is not only a crucial part of her overarching journey but plays very heavily into her journey with David.            

Her being barren is not significant other than it has a part to play in a story about creation and the forbidden fruit. It is a function of the narrative not her per se. 

If her portrayal feels very real and very personal then I am pleased. I do not have any issues as regards men or woman. I have two quite separate teams of men that I lead on my building projects and they love working with me as I do them. I am one of an increasing number of independent professional woman who do not need a man financially or for companionship and my really dynamic relationships are with both woman and men and they tend to be much younger than me. I love their enthusiasm for life and its boundless possibilities rather than the two generations above them who are becoming more and more cynical and not a little entitled, and if thats me its nothing to do with Elizabeth.      

Where I agree with Elizabeth and David is that mankind isn't doing very well and that plays into Ridley's point we may be a footnote and explain why we are not doing well.

I hope that helps and fingers and toes cross you continue to enjoy the books.   

Michelle

I've started reading and enjoy it. You use an omniscient narrator but much of Elisabeth is you, isn't it, feeling isolated and different (among men and people in general :) )?

'depths of the Pacific Ocean'

Nice one Gavin...and I could see James Cameron wanting to film that!

All of humanity (buildings/bones/plastic/etc...)will be scrubbed from the face of the Earth in a million years or so.....so I could envision a cuthulu race who setting up shop on Earth millions of years ago.

Thanks Leto!

I'd like to think that the dwarf galaxy is facehugging the Milky Way! A truly epic scale face hugger/egg pod. 

Shaw and David realize it's probably too late to save the patient(Milky Way)...the seed has been planted.

Shaw finds there was a quarantine shield that surrounds the alien gateway...it no longer operates..they are unsure when it last worked?( The Engineers were smart enough to stop/scan anything dangerous coming from another galaxy)

Capt. Janek and Vickers don’t think it’s a good idea to board the monstrous alien gateway ...The talk of restarting is just insane. There are heated arguments,...most aboard are for leaving, some for its destruction.

Vickers and Janek hatch a plan to disable David and take control from Peter Weyland...If it comes to that.

They find the Gateway is also a decontamination site...sterilizing the vessels returning from the other galaxy.

Peter Weyland wonders just what in the other galaxy was so valuable that they would take such a risk?

Weyland staring into the void: “It has always been calling to me...Always”

Janek snaps Vickers neck as she is trying to implement their ship takeover. Janek has also heard the calling.

Later ….With the gateway opened...  they decide to make the jump to LEO A...David estimates it will take 300 years to reach the outer rim of the dwarf ...using a juggernaut(scorpion design..or something giger esque) the remaining crew of the Prometheus (or whatever it would be called in this version) make the jump………..

In this version Peter Weyland  appears 40-50 years old, even though he is twice that....he has been modifying his aging(the Alien universe has FTL and anti grav....you would assume they have some anti-aging tech?)

MonsterZero, wow, just wow! Very epic and dark.

Alien style opening credits, background rotating through space finishing on a planet. Planet's surface is uber hostile, barren and lifeless (like LV-223, but with skeletons everywhere). Zoom in on an animal skull which gets picked up by a gloved hand. Then show a Juggernaut leaving the planet. Inside, the Juggernaut looks shiny and new (like in Prometheus) as within one of the vessels 'arms' the hand places the skull in a container on a shelf, a shelf full of other containers, each with something unique inside them (one of which will be an insect). Focus back on the skull to see some black liquid moving inside the skull.

Earth, mid 21st century. A Weyland Corp satellite picks up a strange signature in the depths of the Pacific Ocean. Zoom in from orbit to see dozen of ships arranged in a circle. Onboard one ship a crew enters a submersible and descends towards the source. Due to terrain, the crew has to 'land' the sub at a distance and climb the terrain underwater toward the source of the signal, whereby they discover a Juggernaut. The crew approach one of the three vaginal entrances, which are closed, but suck them inside where it is dry and the air is breathable. They explore the Juggernauts cargo hold, which is empty before ascending to the cockpit, complete with a pilot. They presume the pilot is dead but when it moves in its chair one of the crew overreacts and kills the pilot. Examining the pilot the crew remove its helmet to reveal a C'Thulu-like head. Noticing a flashing squidgy button on the Pilots chair the crew activates an Orrery (like David did) showing them something emanating from one of three moons around a gas giant.

Transition to said, some years later as a Weyland Corp vessel approaches it; LV-426. The crew (same as before) land and venture towards the derelict Juggernaut and finding it's pilot dead. However, they notice the interior of the juggernaut is different from that of the Juggernaut on Earth (and different from what the Juggernaut looked like in the opening scene). The team split up alone to cover more ground as the leads stay in the cockpit. The lead characters activate the chairs holo-ghost recording showing the pilot awakening and struggling yet failing to leave its chair, and then while trying to break free of its suit the recording shows some smoke coming from the platform, where there is now a hole. Through the hole we see one of the crew without a helmet walking towards something unseen, but shown to be under a layer of blue mist. As the leads continue to watch the recording which shows the dead piot being suffocated by a spider-like parasite (Facehugger)we see elsewhere in the Juggernaut another lone crew member discover a strange dessicated corpse, but as they approach it the corpse attacks and kills them. Back in the cockpit, the leads watch as a snake-like creature bursts through the pilot's chest, ending the recording while the crew member in the cargo hold meets the same fate and the awakened corpse (the pilot born Alien) begins stalking the crew.

Fight for survival. More deaths. Alien portrayed as being more cunning and devious. Pilot born ALien killed on LV-426, but the crew is unaware of other Alien which stows on board their ship as they leave. After failing to vent it into space (re-imagining of Alien airlock scene) and a few more deaths, but with no means to escape the lone survivor warns Weyland Corp about the Alien and self destruct the ship killing themselves and the Alien.

Inferences...

#1 - Goo inside skull contaminates Juggernaut and creates the eggs and the blue-laser mist.

#2 - the goo, inferred to be remnants of the Alien, devasted the planet in the opening scene.

#3 - The container show the pilots are benevolent collectors and their vessels are arks.

#4 - The insect in the pilot's collection is suggesting the Queen Alien is a variant from the goo infecting the insect.  

#5 - The pilots (Space Jockeys) are not human or our creators.

#6 - The devastated world is unknown, and though not the Alien homeworld, remains a mystery.

An infected galaxy is a great idea. I also liked your idea about eggs having to be scrapped from their hulls, it just shows how infected that galaxy has become!.

A bit like Event Horizon where the ship returns from Hell and was witness to god know what horrors - it returned disturbed and twisted. Its a terrifying idea

Thanks I Raptus!

I think the idea of an infested galaxy and the Engineers opening a portal to it, Then having to shut it to keep out the 'devil', could work. (it's a portal to hell trope...but I don't think the audience would mind?)

Who knows what terrors they brought back...the xenomorph might be the least of their worries.

Wonder if David could restart/open the gate?

I don't want the big baddie to be AI either...more cosmic horror. tougher to pull off correctly...especially without Giger. :-(

MonsterZero love your premise!! Ambiguous, dark and it raises the threat. Nice one

cool. I'll give it a go.

1. Classic timeline 2090ish.

2. No LV-426 visit or LV-223.

3. infer clues..they can figure it out.(maybe?)

4. Space Jockeys all dead millions(if not billions) of years.

5. absolutely. David and Shaw(and hopefully the audience) figure it out. 

6. Classic Xenomorph 

7. No one looking for ancient astronauts. hard core science.

Start the movie showing LEO A a satellite galaxy of the Milky Way.

 The galaxy is over run by xenomorph egg infestation sextillion dotting(and rotting) on the surface of planets and their moons(not sure how to show the galaxy is their hive?).

Cut to: A race of humanoid (Engineers) building a massive transportation super structure. the Engineers want to access local galaxies(and Andromeda) using advanced transportation technology.

They finally succeed in opening the gateway(s) and start exploring nearby dwarf galaxies(one being LEO A)....bringing samples of stuff they find back home(Milky Way)

Show the Engineers having to scrape eggs off the hulls of their juggernauts(like barnacles)

Show the Engineers encountering and battling something (not shown)......

Cut to: The Prometheus travelling at light speed.

Space telescopes(or deep space probes) have identified a large superstructure near the edge of the Milk Way.

Peter Weyland will not miss this event!

the Prometheus arrives at the alien structure finding thousands of derelict Juggernauts orbiting the gateways power source(a black hole)....David thinks it's Hard to say if they were returning or trying to leave the galaxy?

Weyland insists they must now explore the alien structure.....

BigDave

Thanks I would love some more feedback on my selection and choices for Book One.

At first glance the prologue simply positions Elizabeth but its actually an Overture to the truth which my most dedicated readers got.

In terms of authenticity I was aware of two matters which damaged the film :-

1)  Damon, probably because of where Pre Production was, simply overlaid some of Jon's Monster Beats. I think its no coincidence thats the weakest element of the film, because his original elements, the spiking of the drink and Sir Peter on board were very strong. I develop those themes much further.    

2) Specifically the original Fifield beat felt like a distraction in Jon's script. But with Weyland on board with his surrogate son and actual daughter it became a real problem. Originally Fifield was in Act 3 but that was considered to undermine the Weyland wake up so they pushed it back and wove it into Elizabeth coming round and onto the Med Pod which takes away from that scene and it overwrites Charles Death. I wont say anymore right now but I dealt with this matter head on.

Ok. My first option - classic.

1) Before Alien. Year can be the same - 2093.

2) Definitely - LV-426.

3) Only a direct prequel to Alien. Basically the same script, including the ending. Prometheus crew discover Enineer's/Space Jockey's pyramids, then all dies. Engineer/Space Jockey killed by chestburster, and Shaw & David survived and fled to another film. :)

4) Good question. I want to see more about Engineer's technologies and science, not about not about their kinship ties.

How Deep do you explore their Agenda and History or Set up this for a Sequel?

No. The story must be self-sufficient. No nonsense, such as - maybe we will answer later, maybe in a sequel, or maybe in a triquel, or maybe not answer at all - because mystery for mystery - it is very interesting!

Get me right - the film should set the stage and give enough information about the Engineers. For the viewer to understand what kind of civilization this is. The sequels can develop and deepen knowledge. But basic information should be provided in the first film.

Do they/can they Communicate with Humans and HOW?

I think - they will have the big fists. xD

5) Yes.

And what the Connection the Space Jockey has with them?

Engineers/Space Jockeys process eggs (or aliens) into black goo.

6) Xenomorph in the end. Main action with neomorphs.

7) Characters will be smart. And scientists will work like scientists.

P.S. Of course, Giger's aesthetics should prevail. There are no stone caves, stone buildings, Jedi robes ;), no another stone planet without a life.

Had a Quick Glance through that Website Link Michelle, i think its Very Interested to add some FLESH to Prometheus to change a few things, but mainly to add some Meat to those Bones.

Help us to get a better connection with Dr Shaw and David by giving us a bit more depth about them, that you cant do with a Movie due to Time Constraints.

I am sure a Number of People are Disappointed that PROMETHEUS never got a Novelization apart from in Japan and so for those who saw Prometheus beyond looking for/at HOW we got to the Xenomorph and Derelict would certainly find it Interesting to see how you Flesh Out the other aspects of Prometheus.

And then to Continue with where the Sequels could have taken us, instead of Caving in to ANSWER the Derelict and Eggs Chronologically... that gave us Alien Covenant.

After the Weekend i will give that Prologue of Sorts a Good Read, looks Very Good so far ;)

ignorantGuy

Thank you thats very kind of you. I can honestly say it is not vanity that would respond to others wanting to make Elizabeths journey it is in the joy of knowing others find the questions which David recognises in her dreams so intriguing.    

Lone

One of the things I love about you is your passion for Ridleys visual coups and his prop design choices.

In both books I have tried to honour those choices by underwriting their meaning in what I hope you will feel is an authentic way.

I spent a long time thinking about why did they trigger protocols with musical sequences, what is the material in the four glass ampules and why does the craft at the beginning and its occupants communicate a simple unadorned elegance whereas the craft and people of the Moon reflect a curious mixture of the ethereal, organic and mechanical what was at the root of that change, for the documentary makes it clear millions of years separate the two.  

So my proposition is a simple one, whilst Prometheus is Ridleys story and is on the screen for all to see, if you consider his visuals carefully embedded in the film are all the materials for the next one.

Michelle,

I have been absent from the forum for a while. Many thanks for sharing your work. It comes from a passion for Prometheus & what it opened us up to. Given the troping & emptyness of most cinema in recent years, very few directors would have had the vision or bravery to go there.

Prometheus was the beginning of an odyssey, what a waste that it was not allowed to follow through. As an aficionado of the original ALIEN & Ridley’s work, in cinematic terms it was the most excited I had been for years. After Covenant that excitement was replaced to a certain extent by sadness & if only…. 

Anyway, I will certainly be setting aside some time to savour your reworking. 

First of all i would say Regarding Technology, that the Current Generation does rely on such things and we do spend too much Time on our Devices than Appreciate Nature, those who where Born before the 90's would have a idea of Times before we relied heavy on such things.

Regarding Alien Isolation i can understand the Points being raised, the Game is Truly Engaging  and it adds that element of Suspense and Fear because you are Responsible for what happens as you Control the Character...  But when you are the Spectator then the Effect is much Less... by that if you was to for the First Time of ever seeing the Game, and you sat and WATCHED someone who has Completed the Game Many Times and so can do just a Quick Walk Through, then as such a Spectator you are NOT going to have the same Suspense and Fear that you would if you had Played the Game from Scratch.

So then it comes down to the Character Interactions and Scenes and as a Spectator they lack Depth, that you get from a Well Written Book or Movie.

I think looking at a Continuation as a TV Series could work, provided it does-not try and tackle the Space Jockey or Xenomorph Origins.   And so as DK had mentioned the Viewer of such a TV Series Continuation could get some Dialog, Narration etc to what happened prior, but then its best to NOT go into too much Detail, where it leaves the Viewer the Option to go and PLAY the Game to get more DETAIL of what Transpired prior, or to go and READ the Novel.

I think the Problem with the Franchise is finding the Balance between Drama, Suspense, Thriller and Horror and also Action.   The Fanbase has different Wants and Expectations.

Maybe One Series of 8 Episodes thats more like a Alien or Alien 3, with another Unconnected one thats more like a Aliens and Alien Resurrection for the Action Fans..

For me its also a Question of HOW-FAR can you take the Xenomorph before its been done to Death? Especially if we get a TV Series thats more a Alien Resurrection or Aliens... or like the Comics..

Its then a case of WHATS NEXT? 

And without exploring the Origins and the Space Jockey, then it really is Limited, and exploring them is just a MESS at the Moment due to the Mess Left by Alien Covenant.

I think FOX/Disney would be better off with a TV Series that is like a Spiritual Sister to the ALIEN Franchise, rather than having it SET in the ALIEN Universe.  

  Prometheus would have had that Spiritual Sister look/feel if say the Company was not Weyland, and the Engineers Suits and Ships looked different to the Derelict/Space Jockey..

Michelle Johnston 

I wish you receive praise for the hard work (yes, yes I know that you did this mainly for yourself, but still).

dk  Thank-you very much for what you said!! I really appreciate the sentiment and the info--it's always nice to know what people Like, as it helps me insofar as to make sure things stay on-track. :D

I'm glad you enjoyed the little peek into the Sequel, and that's the great thing about books--you can always go back re-read or just skim through to refresh one's memory. :)

It has been a long time since seeing Manticore. I don't recall all the names, but I like the over all style. What is remembered most is the way the writing makes me feel like I am there- the descriptive and gritty way of describing sights, smells and matter of fact ways characters speak and think.

Thanks for the peek and welcome back Blackwinter-witch !

As promised here's an excerpt, from Chapter 06.

I remind you to please keep in mind this is RAW ORE type 1st Draft, and a LONG ways--and several editing passes--from being Finished and polished up nice and neat.

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C H A P T E R
06

The memorial for Lenden the following day was conducted outside, a short ways from the base camp, in an area that had been thoroughly and repeatedly checked for anything even remotely dangerous. Declan had put his skills to work in crafting a headstone from a slab of stone retrieved by a drone.
Lenden’s body was cremated using thermite packs, thoroughly eliminating any chance of any possible contagion lingering in his remains, and when complete the ashes were interred in the drone-excavated grave which was filled in by five volunteers.
Smythe caught up with Selinaehra and Declan inside Panzer as clouds rolled in, promising torrential rains. Declan poured him a stiff drink, handed it to him which was gratefully accepted with a polite nod of thanks.
“I’ve checked everyone over, with no surprises. More than a few people were quite worried about secondary contagion and contamination so I have a dozen of the utility drones performing level-three decontam sweeps and clean-up. I don’t blame them, and a precautionary clean-up certainly cannot hurt.” He commented after taking a healthy tilt of the whisky poured for him.
Declan stared into the depths of his own whisky, then asked the question on his mind.
“How the hell did that happen? I checked his suit, there were no breaches at all, nothing.” He said.
“I suspect he opened his suit, for some reason. Possibly, and most likely, he removed his helmet for some perfectly mundane reason, for example to scratch his nose. That would be all it took. The spore-mites from those little pods could have been trapped in the seal, they’d have been shielded versus even level-five-plus decontamination, and when he was inside, removing his suit it’d have it’s opportunity. I’m guessing, of course, based strictly off time-indexing which we have from the Covenant’s lander’s mission recorder about their own encounters with such things. But, with the scanty evidence at-hand, that seems the most likely chain of events.” Smythe said with a sigh, sounding tired.
Selinaehra sat, listening and thinking. Poured a fresh round for her crewmates and herself before speaking.
“I think we’re just seeing the start of some much larger and more serious problems. That other crew out there in the city, there’s no telling what they might stir up and they don’t have the knowledge we do. They’re blundering around in the dark, and if they haven’t yet, they’ll be encountering who-knows-what and that could come back on us.” She took a long swallow of whisky before she brought up a chilling point.
“That city out there, it was a living city not so long ago. Now, here’s the problem: ‘What happens when the Engineers come and find this city having been killed’?” She said, pointing in the general direction of the city and getting the full attention of her crewmates who looked sharply at her in alarm.
“Damn, yeah. This is a problem. Whatever happened here, unless the Engineers did it to themselves…shit…” Declan said, trailing off as the enormity settled on him.
Smythe swirled his whisky in his metal cup, thinking in alarming ways.
“I’ll remind you both that if is was a hostile action, possibly on the part of Shaw, the Engineers brought it on themselves. They did fully intend to wipe Earth clean of all animal-based life two millenia ago, and the very first thing that Engineer on LV-223 did upon awakening was attempt to carry out that mission without question nor hesitation. We also have a small but formidable stockpile of modified weapons aboard which we can use as a checkmate versus any Engineers who might seek a reprisal strike, unless they want a few dozen more of their cities on other worlds decimated with their own weapon.” He said, slowly, deliberately, coldly.
“You’re thinking we can bluff them?” Declan asked, wondering what was going on inside the mind of the ship’s doctor.
Smythe met Declan’s eyes for a moment, and Declan pulled back slightly from what he saw in their depths.
“No. We would not be ‘bluffing’.” He said, simply, directly.
Declan looked at the older man with a new level of respect. Despite the fussy-seeming demeanour, the always-impeccable grooming and manner of dress there was something cold, dark, steel-hard and sharp inside Smythe.
Something that Declan thought that the Engineers wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of if they had any sense at all.

**********END EXCERPT****

I Raptus

 To your question about music and I can only answer for me. 

Its three elements head heart and hips. 

Head

As a chorister I have an intellectual interest in a piece of music.  I now hear harmony counter point et etc and admire it. If I hear a piece of music I do not like I can explain very clearly at an intellectual level why I do not like it. In fandom that goes down like a lead balloon.   

Heart 

All of the art I connect to whether cinema or book or whatever is about fulfilling the emotional junkie in me. Its not about being sentimental its about experience and learning something. So story telling is vital. Action sequences have to have a story telling value and move the characters and story on. In music I want a narrative I can relate to but most of the music I listen to is on average 250 years old with no lyrics and I love Jazz a lot of which is instrumental and the latter feed a mood. Excitement, journeying, discovery, serenity, joy  etc etc. So thats quite similar to reading a book or watching a movie. 

Hips. 

This is where music is different its entirely participatory. 

Thanks by the way for responding in kind I was taken by your perceptive comment. 

I have completed a further revision of both elements always seeking to make the story come off the page better, better descriptions, crisper dialogue. 

The mayhem elements in the extension were deliberately flat in terms of detail, probably sub consciously as a reaction to what I believe is now so formulaic. The revision allows for both David and Elizabeth to react in a more physically intimate way with whats getting out of hand and it also occurred to me there was a chance to define the relationship between the protagonist and antagonist in a new way.

Its no secret that the big theme of Prometheus is about transmission through sacrifice but there is another element which is crucial to a hierarchy who are aggressive ...... hosting and its many forms.

I have made the site public.        

https://prometheuscontinuationstory.com

To restate as starkly and simply as possible this is about "who made us and if they made us who made them." to quote Ridley. That things go wrong and a craft ends up on the Moon with a weird cargo is to quote Michael Fassbender "a small tributary of a much larger canvas."

So this is for those intrigued by Prometheus and where a separate story might go. Its avowedly not for ALIEN centric fans.  

Thank-you I Raptus !!!! :D

Yeah I tend to have an 'eccentric orbit', kinda like a planet orbiting a star that have an extreme outer-range time...but I always come back around. ;)

ALIEN, it's never far from my thoughts, my 'Home' universe and I am working on something 'Experimental' that folks may or may not like but it's something MANY of us have been WANTING to see since we first toured the Los Angeles of 2019. ;)

That's all I am saying for now, as well as that the initial testing has gone SO smoothly I spent a week worried I was doing something wrong--but simply, the two Realities were MEANT to align. :D

HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE!!!