I dont own any at the Moment.

The Extra Detail of these ones is something that certainly Tempts me to get them ;)

"1997 Creator: Warren Ellis; The Engineer"

Interesting Share ;)

Certainly could apply to our Engineers from the ALIEN Franchise.

"The question “Why did they create us?” could get the same answer that David gets from Holloway:"

Certainly, i would like to think the TRUE revelation would had been NOTHING like Dr Shaw's Faith.  In that these beings had Created us to Look Over us, Cherish us and Love us.  When we are looking at the Scale of Creation in context to Prometheus i think we have to always ask "whats in it for the Creator?"

The Drafts for Alien Covenant seem to indicate that they was attempting to build Good Machines. So this could indicate we was Created for some Purpose to Serve a Function.

Maybe if we look at WHY would Mankind Create beings like David, then maybe the Engineers Created us for the same Purpose?

The whole Reason for Creation could be something very Ambiguous that we could come up with various Reasons, and maybe more than ONE could apply.

We cant rule out us being Created for a Purpose and then after this Purpose some Engineers decided that there was more use for us than to be merely a Labour Force for Example.

Its WHY the Answer to WHY we was Created is maybe the Biggest Question.  And maybe its not as Simple as because they COULD...   I think Holloways comment about that to David was just to get under his Skin.

There are Multiple Reasons that Weyland would Create a AI like David.   And just because he could would only be ONE part of this.

The Control Over these Gardens is a GOOD point.

If we take the Fiji Islands and these were Places that the rest of the World Hundreds of Years ago had Agreed to NEVER visit or interact with.   Then its likely they would be NO-WHERE near as Advanced as most of Civilization is now.  We could Ponder the same with the Americas if Europeans never SET-FOOT there.

When Outside people would Visit these places, then the Knowledge Passed on would allow them (Natives) to Advance, but this can be controlled by How Much Knowledge you give them.

We could wonder if some of the Engineers had NOT committed a Hubris, but maybe they had Passed On too much Information and maybe we was NOT supposed to be passed on as much as some Engineers had, which became the Hubris.

We could take Planet of the Apes as a Example... if we Genetically Advanced Apes to be more Human for example, then if we placed them on a Island that is VERY FAR from other Lands, then you could LIMIT and Control at what Rate they would Advance and if they showed signs of Advancing on their own that you was Concerned with then you could PUT a stop to it.

Allowing Genetically Advanced Apes the Freedom and Access/Knowledge that Mankind has, could lead to them gaining a Equal Footing or even Surpassing us. (if they are of Equal or Greater Intelligence).  

And so indeed Controlling the Knowledge that Intelligent beings can gain and Free-will/Freedom to use this Knowledge is something that you would want to be CAREFUL with when it comes to what you allow your Creations to HAVE/DO.

When things GET out of Control.... then its what action do you take!   The Engineers Answer seems VERY FLAWED and Overkill.

Unless they have Seeded Similar to us on other Planets or had came to take some of us with them before they PULL THE PLUG! (think like Noahs Ark).  But again this really does depend on WHY we was Created and WHAT Purpose they had for us, and WHAT happened once we are NOT needed for that Purpose anymore!

1997

Creators: Warren Ellis and Tom Raney

The Engineer

The Engineer has spent his adult life extending the possibilities of his own body with technology using his own body as a test bed for the changes he wants to make to the world. He tried to give the world nanotechnology, miraculous engines of creation no larger than bacteria. The authority stopped him from giving the people a thing that would remove need from the world.

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Engineer_%28Wildstorm_Universe%29

Certainly this is NOT something i had overlooked, we have witnessed the Deacon but David has NOT..

However he had Witnessed that Dr Shaw who could not Bare Child had became Pregnant per-say with a None Traditional Fetus. David would likely be Curious to what would have became of Dr Shaws Child. We have to assume he could make out more from LV-223 than the Viewer Could....

And so cant rule out him wishing to Retry the Experiment that he had done on LV-223 but be around to see the Results.

Indeed he had witnessed the Neomorph which was created NOT via any Sexual Intercourse...  But what we could also Ponder is that does David know for 100% what caused Dr Shaw's Trilobite?

If he was unsure he could maybe want to Discover what caused her to be able to Give Birth (Gestate) such a Creature.

*Was it a case of Infected Sperm, Fertilized one of her Egg Cells?

*Had Holloway only been the means to Transfer the Pathogen (maybe Eye-Worms) to Dr Shaw and THIS is what infected her Egg Cell?

*Or would these merely had been passed on as above but only Needed a Womb to Gestate and so NONE of her Egg Cells are involved?

Those are the 3 most likely Scenarios to HOW she came to grow the Trilobite inside of her.  I think its ok to ask the Question of IF our David really knows what caused it.  Or IF-NOT then would he maybe want to try and Replicate it?

Its all speculation but if you was in David's shoes and was willing to Experiment with the Neomorph and Black Goo, then we cant rule out him wishing to see what this stuff does to a Female Productive System.

""more Perfect Method", if David would hear you, he would surely snap your neck."

You certainly would not put that past him... i dont think he is the Type to Make and Keep Friends ;)

WildC.A.T.S/Aliens was a one-shot comic book and intercompany crossover event, published by Wildstorm (while still part of Image Comics) and Dark Horse Comics in 1998. The comic was written by Warren Ellis, pencilled by Chris Sprouse, with Kevin Nowlan inking and Laura Depuy as the colorist.

When the idea for the crossover was explained to him Warren Ellis was not enthusiastic; he kept telling them he thought the idea was "Bloody stupid" but was won around when "he was told that he could kill any character he wanted". It was this free hand that allowed him to clear the decks and launch a new superhero team with his own characters (the exception being Swift), the Authority. Scott Dunbier, the editor in charge at the time, explained the thinking behind this: "One of my goals was that this should be a book with lasting effects, unlike the usual cross-company epics that come and go and mean nothing. Since Warren Ellis was wrapping up his run on Stormwatch, before diving into The Authority, I thought it would be an interesting idea to kill off a large portion of the remaining Stormwatch characters, the ones that wouldn’t be moving on to the new book."

dk, you've made a good Point. Imagine that the first movie that a person watches from the Alien Saga is Alien Resurrection. Then, yes. For that person, the first human burst is the medically assisted burst of the Ellen Ripley's Alien Queen. 

It's kind of sad, weird and funny.

BigDave

As you said, when Shaw says “We were so wrong”, it could mean a lot of things. Wrong about going there, wrong about the Engineers (being nice), wrong about “an invitation” etc. The message could also have changed from being an invitation to not being an invitation.

As you also point out, it’s possible to look upon the Engineers as gardeners of space seeing us as micro-organisms in a petri dish carefully controlling that the lid is on and nothing (no one) escapes (from Earth). LV-223 could have been like a greenhouse where they investigated and experimented with people which would fit well with the Hill abduction.

Yes, it’s possible that the Engineers in their endeavour of creating beautiful worlds filled with perfect beings eventually suffered from hubris, going too far with genetic engineering. In their pursuit of creating perfect worlds and perfect beings, instead, they eventually created monsters . . .

The question “Why did they create us?” could get the same answer that David gets from Holloway: “We made you because we could”. Why do we create perfect, beautiful gardens or parks? Because we can and we enjoy it. But we also have to control them so that it doesn’t go out of control . . .

BigDave But David never saw the mature trilobite, only as a incentive thing in the womb using an ultrasound machine. He has never seen the deacon. He had only seen the neomorph which does not involve nothing sexual. 

"more Perfect Method", if David would hear you, he would surely snap your neck.

Certainly there was a LOT of potential to WHAT does a Engineer World and Ships look like... that Sadly with Alien Covenant it just never seemed to match Expectations.

To be fair way back at the Time of Prometheus i think we could have Envisioned Worlds like KRYPTON from the 2013 Movie Man of Steel (Superman).

If you have ever seen that Movie, if you look at the First Act and Imagine this World but with a Touch of HR Giger more Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic then INDEED it is maybe NOT far off what many expected to see with the Engineers.

I think that Man of Steel also did seem to be very Prometheus like as far as the Engineers go, it seemed to borrow some ideas from Prometheus as far as Concepts and Earlier Draft Ideas.

You could actually look at the Man of Steel Plot as far as the Kryptonians and apply that to Prometheus History. We have a Race who are Ancient and Advanced who go to Worlds to Terraform them so they can Live on other Worlds, their own WORLD is Dying... 

They are a Race who Struggle to Procreate Naturally and use Technology and Advanced Nano-AI to help with this Process and their Technology.   The whole SEND out Kal (Superman) to Earth Plot kind of mirrors what Ridley Scott had said about the Engineers and Jesus Christ ;)

I only say this because when i look at Krypton and the Technology the Buildings and think WHAT if we had a HR Giger Spin on this... then it would INDEED had fitted Perfectly with the Engineers.

If the Engineers Ancestors had Destroyed their own WORLD too, and began to Terraform Worlds to Spread their Species across the Galaxy, then maybe we could actually have MASSIVE Engineer Ships that Act like Huge Cities?

So maybe somewhere in the Galaxy we have many remnants of the Engineers Ships, surely its NOT just limited to the Pebble Seeding Ship, the Juggernaught/Derelict and the Scorpion Ship from Alien Covenant!

dk, i'm talking about the moment when the newborn bursts from the womb of the full grown Alien Queen, that was surgically removed from Ellen Ripley's chest. The video that i above linked is This scene that i finished to describe.

"we still have the issue of the Derelict (filled with thousands or millions of eggs and the space jockey looking fossilized)."

Absolutely as of the Time David had Tucked Daniels into BED so to speak we are 17.5 Years away from when the Nostromo Crew Discover the Derelict.

The Space Jockey/Derelict look like they had been there for MUCH longer than that, and indeed it was ORIGINALLY intended to had been there for Thousands of Years.

But ALAS things Change.... but they can also Change again... who knows IF we will see Disney offer a Explanation to the Derelict and IF they would make a U-Turn to Please Fans?

Regarding the Perfection of his Queen, for him to make this Statement he must feel PLEASED with his Xenomorph he just needs to Perfect a way to Procreate them.

Some Fans (usually on other sites) think this does mean we would be seeing the Creation of the Xenomorph Queen and this would explain the Many Thousands of Eggs.

Because WELL we see David has only TWO Face Huggers and 3000+ Good Souls.... so thats not going to be Many Thousands of Eggs and HOW does he Change those Colonist and Embryo's into Thousands of Eggs?

If we go by the ALIEN Franchise... we could assume.

*EGG MORPH but then its a case of if we would see TWO Xenomorphs going around and Egg Morphing Thousands of Humans...

*QUEEN this is more Easier, we could see someone Birth a Queen, why maybe the Space Jockey Births the Queen and lays all those Eggs... SIMPLE!

But i dont think Ridley Scott would be going the James Cameron Route!

David does appear to have a Interest in Daniels, he wants to do to Daniels what he did with Dr Shaw... which does-not just mean he wants to try an Kiss/Have Sex!

Its indicated that he required Dr Shaw to be able to achieve the Results that he had with his Xenomorphs. This could lead to some Speculations to HOW.

Some of David's Drawings could show us what he had done or attempted/had planned.

1) Infected Dr Shaw with one of his Xenomorphs, then Removed the Organism and Repeat... BUT then how does this explain the EGGS?

2) Used Dr Shaws Reproductive System/Egg Cells to Produce the Eggs.

3) Evolve Dr Shaw into a Hybrid to then Create the Eggs.

The Closest we saw to a XENOMORPH in Prometheus came from Dr Shaw, by Virtue of her Unnatural Child the Trilobite (a kind of Face Hugger).

So a GOOD Starting point for anyone Interested in Replicating a Deacon would be the Knowledge that either the Black Goo infects a Egg Cell or a Infected Sperm infects a Egg Cell.

Replicating this would be a Good Starting Point, but then you could attempt to Engineer/Evolve the Offspring, we also see how the Neomorph Procreated via the Spores and so David had likely created a Hybrid Neomorph and Deacon and Experimented Numerous Times to get the Xenomorph..   ONCE achieved he could maybe with the Black Goo Break this Organisms DNA down and apply this to the EGG CELLS to create the Eggs.

If this is kind of what happened, then David's comments would imply the Lengthy Process was Tedious and he needed to find a more Perfect Method.

so if Infecting a Humans Egg Cells to Produce Xenomorph Eggs was Tedious.  Then maybe he could Ponder what happens if you have a Human Hybrid instead?

So that the Female is Part Xenomorph and would Pass on Traits to the Egg Cells, maybe if the Procreation Traits of the Organism are more Prominent than a Humans then the Egg Cells could automatically become Xenomorph Eggs instead.  Which would be a Less Tedious method to obtain Eggs.

So maybe the above is some idea of the Queen that David wishes to Perfect and what FATE lies ahead for Daniels?

Of course the Lazy Route would be that David Engineers a Face Hugger to Produce a Traditional Queen, but i just DONT think this is something that Ridley Scott would have shown us.

"Well, we don’t know for sure whether the star map given to early civilisations was an invitation or not."

I think it depends on what you take into account, as i had said earlier on the Topic, while Dr Shaw makes some assumptions First that it was a Invitation and then that she was So Wrong.... she also Chooses to Believe her Faith in-spite of her Findings... so we cant take her as 100% Reliable.

The Biggest Question should be about the Reasons the Engineers Created us and then spent Time coming down to Interact with us... for WHAT reason?

The Answer will HELP us make sense of everything else... but indeed things can Change... and Dr Shaw wanted to know WHY the Engineers Changed their Minds.

The Engineers Agenda and Purpose is the BIG ONE as far as how it Effects everything.  Ridley Scott keeps mentioning they are Gardeners of Space.  (Genetic)

But indeed you DONT leave you Calling Card and Address to People who you DONT want to Find you. So you could look at this being a Invitation..... but in reality its likely that the Engineers had NEVER intended us to Leave Earth on our own Terms and without the Engineers we are supposed to have been Incapable of this FEAT!

How Wrong was they!

"which might have been a happier place in times of yore"

Certainly having LV-223 as a Bio-Weapons Facility for over 35'000 Years with the Intention of using the stuff to Destroy their Creations...  JUST dont make Sense!   As far as WHY they would Pinpoint this place.

But then Dr Shaw and Holloway could have been mistaken and taken the Prometheus to the Wrong Place, as they could have pointed out Planet 4 (but as this place seemed to be HIDDEN, they maybe determined that the Map was to the closest place that seemed to be more Habitable... Hence LV-223

I still think LV-223 was likely a Sandbox/Nursery/Green House to Develop, Upgrade Experiments and then Seed down the Desired Results on Worlds.

At some LATTER point a group of Engineers had became OBSESSED with the Genetic Traits of a Organism that Predated the Deacon and they saw its DNA/Traits as being something more PERFECT than their own Humanoid DNA and so began their Obsession and what LV-223 then became.

If we come back to the Gardeners of Space then ASSUME the Engineers Prime Agenda is to Create/Evolve Life then we have to ask to what END?

If we take this to the Next Level in Peter Weyland and the Creation of Synthetic Life then we could look at a Agenda of the Pursuit of always trying to Evolve this Creation to Perfect it.... and if this is what the Engineers had been doing then lets change this to Mankind.

Throw David out and Replace with Replicants as its more Relevant..   so your trying to Created a Humanoid Species for a Set Purpose and your looking at how to make them more Enhanced (Übermensch ) then its HOW FAR can you Engineer a Superior Humanoid.

After tweaking the Humanoid Genomes and NOT being able to Perfect It, as there is always something to Perfect, you could be like... What if we gave these Humans the EYESIGHT of a Eagle or Owl, what if they could Grow Wings and FLY?

So then your trying to NOT Enhance the Human Genome but your trying to ADD some Traits from other Organisms.   I think this is where the ENCOUNTER and EXPERIMENTS with the Precursor to the Xenomorph came about!

it was something the Engineers had then experimented with that they SHOULD-NOT have...  I am sure if you look at the Traits of the Deacon, Neomorph and Xenomorph then you could ASK.... if we could extract and apply some of these Traits to Humanoids then they could be of Great Benefit in Creating a Übermensch

But alas this all made more Sense before Alien Covenant, because NOW we have to contend with the possibility that there is ONE GOO and it always was able to Create Such Traits.

I could go on more in Detail of HOW it all could fit together (Engineers Agenda and Fall) but that would maybe be a little LONG WINDED...

But i think looking at Replicants and David gives us a Good View at what may have taken place.. But alas the PLOT is so Bold and Ambiguous that you could come up with any number of theories.

KEY points would be around WHAT the Agenda had been for the Engineers, and WHEN/WHY had this Changed.  And also HOW does the Fallen Angels and Prometheus Myth connect.

Then HOW does the "Sometimes to Create One must first Destroy"  fit... which really comes down to TWO Possible Reasons.

IgnorantGuy

David says: "But I've still one thing left to perfect", "My queen" (looking at Daniels).

David wanted to make Shaw into his "queen" as well, keeping her alive but mutated and experimented upon. Perhaps he used the eggs produced monthly by her (together with the pathogen) to make the xenomorph eggs?

There were perhaps 7 eggs in the basement which would then mean that Shaw was alive for about 7 months . . .

chli He says he found his Queen, but I think it is a reference to the queen of Bathsheba, the desire for whom marks the Downfall of the Biblical king David. It might be possible that Daniels will birth something, but I don't thinl she will be made into a Cameron Queeen. 

IgnorantGuy

Well, as I see it, it depends on two things (at least):

The first is what David means by saying that he will create a queen out of Daniels?

The second thing is that there seem to be millions of eggs in the cargo hold of the Derelict. David could perhaps create 2000 eggs from the colonists on the Covenant?

chli Is it even correct to assume that there exists a queen before the one in Aliens. It might as well be the first one.

Even if we accept that David creates the xenomorph that the crew of the Nostromo encounter, we still have the issue of the Derelict (filled with thousands or millions of eggs and the space jockey looking fossilized).

It's 18 years between the disaster on Planet 4 and Captain Dallas, Kane, and Lambert finding the Derelict. In this time David has to traverse long distances of space, creating a queen, and the Derelict ending up on LV-426 . . .

Well, we don’t know for sure whether the star map given to early civilisations was an invitation or not. We don’t know for sure why the engineers created us either and then decided to destroy us (that’s what Shaw wanted to find out).

One thing is for sure, though. If you don’t want visitors, you don’t give everyone your address. The address might have been LV-223 (which might have been a happier place in times of yore). Or the address might have been Planet 4 (presumably somewhere close by).

It’s possible that the engineers looked upon us as parents do. You can’t have meaningful discussions with children. They have to grow up first. When they grow up, there can be good relationships between generations but there can also be a generation clash. Maybe they saw us as mischievous children with no hope of there ever being a meaningful relationship?

Another possibility is that they demanded power and obedience and when humans stopped worshipping them it was time for vengeance (nemesis).

When the star maps were given to us, we hadn’t reached the technological level of space travel but the engineers visited us and saw how we evolved. Around the time of the roman empire, they decided to wipe us out so we didn’t reach the space age (All or some of the engineers decided this?).

The invitation was withdrawn . . .

setaverde I don't claim to know either. I might be missing something. This is what makes discussions interesting.

I think that Queen from AR was actually surgically removed and din't burst but I could be wrong. I haven't seen AR for more than a year.

@BigDave, This is the Proof that Alien films are much more than just Xenomorphs.

I was thinking in something inside the alien Queen that erupts from within and bursts its way out. 

Well, what do i know, @dk...

I'm ONLY a traveller that gets Lost in the world of the xenomorph.

setaverde I can see your point, but I think all bursters shared DNA with their hosts. 

I think the burster at the end of A3 was a queen, so I think that may have been the first Queen burst. The AR burst was definitely the only one that survived (unless I missed something from comics or novels).

Some Nice Shares ;)

Certainly it would be interesting to see more SHIPS.

I think the Prometheus Plot does open us up to many Engineer Ships, never mind many other Races in the Galaxies Ships.

The Debate about a INVITATION is not so HARD.

Looking at a Reason WHY they wanted to Destroy us is something MUCH more open for Debate.

I think a lot has to do EXACTLY with WHY they would Create us anyway?

Yes there is that Date that is by Coincidence around the Time of Christ's Death (Give or Take) and YES we had Ridley Scott mention this was done on Purpose but then Considered a little TOO on the NOSE.

He liked to get us to think that over time the WAYS that Mankind had behaved had started to become a Concern, if we LITERALLY was to look at it from GOD's POV  and you saw the Majority of the Population Now as far as WHAT would offend the Biblical God, and as FAR as the % who Worship him to the LETTER... Then that GOD would certainly be like PREPARE THE BLACK GOO!

But this should NOT be getting too much into Religion as far as ONE.. and i think this is WHY it is RS had toned this down somewhat.

So we need to look at it this way.... we have to consider that for a God or Godlike beings, they would want their Creations to.

*Behave in Ways that the Creators Deem Acceptable.

*Respect and Worship the Creators.

*Follow any Rules/Laws that the Creators have set out.

*Stick to the Function that the Creators had set out for us.

A Creator would be Concerned if the Following Started to Happen.

*Creations become Sentient and do-not see their Creators as Superior or see any reason why they should be Worshiped.

*Creations go about Living their Lives to their own Rules and have no Respect for/or Follow the Rules/Ways their Creators had set out.

*Creations Start to use the Knowledge passed on in ways Not Intended or begin to Create their own Knowledge/Inventions or Ideals (Advancements) that could be seen as a Concern.

*Creations attempt to Sub-Create or Play God.

All of these THINGS would be a Concern, and we can Attribute many of them to Many Cultures/Civilizations on Earth (especially Modern) in comparison to how say some Cultures like the AMISH for instance would Choose to Live despite being in Modern Times.

which we could make Comparisons with the Planet 4 Engineers. (Living by their Creators Ways/Rules and Shunning Technology for the Most Part).

But this is ONLY looking at HOW we could be a Concern.

I think we OVERLOOK our David a lot when trying to Figure out stuff..

If you look at the Potential for what WALTER would become and a World of Many Walters doing their Duty.

Then look for the Potential for what DAVID would become a World of Many David's who do-not see their Purpose that we had set out for them, and even view us as In-Superior and NOT worthy to be Served.

As a Creator you would be Concerned about what a DAVID could become and if you Creations Start to Show signs of becoming a David... then you would PULL THE PLUG on them.

Or at least RE-PROGRAM.... but sometimes this maybe does-not work and the only option is DESTRUCTION.

@Hox it does prove maybe they should make more Research and time taken into the things they show us, but a lot of it comes down to OVERSIGHT but with that comes Discrepancies that some Fans can use to Counter a Argument against certain things.

The intentions was to indicate the Zeta2 Reticuli system

Looking at Orion we can kind of make it look like a Match but it is a LITTLE off still.  The Map i attempted kind of Fits Better but is in NO-WAY to suggest this was thought out by those working on Prometheus, it is merely a Coincidence.

You raised a Good Point about the Briefing Map was ODD.

I took that Map and Lined it up with ORION from SKY-MAP Website and then Pinpointed where Approximately LV-223 was located according to the Holloway Briefing. 

The Co-Ordinates are NOT where ZETA 2 is located in the SKY.  While in RED i have marked out a Approximate Area where Holloway had pointed out.  i have Marked in GREEN a More Accurate Location of where Zeta 2 Reticuli would be.

So if we are trying to tackle the Oversight, then YES its quite a WAY off from Zeta 2

Could we use this to ARGUE that they went to a Place that is NO-WHERE near LV-426?  Could we Argue the Maps that Dr Shaw and Holloway found are pointing out ORION (but we can kind of match them to Various Stars if we had a Good Look).

You could also use it to MATCH up to the Betty Hill Abduction Map.

IN FACT when looking at SKY MAP its quite easy to find a Series of Stars that can Line Up close to this.

If we are ALLOWED to Rotate the Map and ZOOM IN/OUT on the SKY-MAP Website, especially if we are ONLY looking to find a Configuration that is CLOSE.

Had to do a EDIT on the Image this one is more Accurate as i made a Slight Mistake.

Nonetheless is does still indicate that INDEED where Holloway was pointing to (RED) is NO-WHERE near Zeta 2 (GREEN).

So Holloway was pointing to a System in Gemini, Near Star HD 54405  (Right ascension:    07h09m22.07s
Declination:    +16°32'58.2")

Here's the first burst Experience for an Alien Queen:

https://youtu.be/C_yfM1LAqP0

Technically, This alien Queen has Ellen Ripley's blood, therefore She's part human.

So, Engineers most likely hoped humans would join and co-exist with them, but at some point during their visit, humans proved to be a disappointment to them, so they thought "Nope, can't let those hostile bastards ruin this planet."

Roman legionaries can't destroy or contaminate the planet. And if Engineers think that we can't evovle without their help - it causes controversy.

@BigDave, Unfortunately the star map on the Prometheus is made up. It was clearly artwork inspired in part by the constellation of Orion, which is probably the most recognisable of all constellations. In this overlay, you can see this.

And here is the 'unadulterated' scene. I added the arrow pointing to LV-223 as indicated in the movie.

Unfortunately, Reticulum is in a completely different part of the sky, a different hemisphere in fact. LV-223 is shown in the movie as being somewhere between Canis Minor and Gemini (northern hemisphere).

It's a great pity that the production team didn't use a proper star map to create this visual, instead of making one up.

Orion...

Aliens 1986 film:

Gateway Station

UD-4L Cheyenne Dropship

USS SULACO

https://youtu.be/rcDXo1bi6YU

The Importance of Ship Names in the Alien Films

http://www.cinelinx.com/movie-news/movie-stuff/the-importance-of-ship-names-in-the-alien-films/

Alienverse Ship Dimensions

https://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/46518

Alien 3:

The Type 337 Emergency Escape Vehicle(EEV):

Spaceship USCSS PATNA

(Superior left corner of the picture, from your Point of view)

Ridleygram's Refinery looks fantastic!

 Prometheus: Escape Pod

https://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/46752

Prometheus: Lifeboat

https://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/46748

The Unknown Engineer ship:

David destroys the engineers scene:

https://youtu.be/w2Dwv9gi1po

The Derelict...

setaverde I really like The Refinery. It just looks huge and is amazing such a small crew is on it. It is almost as iconic as the Derelict imo.

They are both outstanding movies in their own right. I cannot think of a single movie anywhere that was flawless. I think most love both movies and nit picking shows people are really into them. I like the whole Quadrilogy despite faults.

Alien Resurrection film:

USM POD:

USM AURIGA:

The Betty docking with the

USM AURIGA...

https://youtu.be/zahL_eCU3Ds