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GavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
@ Chesty - I view it more as a bio-mechanical exoskeleton, but more towards the bio.
@ Sparky - I never, ever liked that coz its all wrong (check front of skull). Funny but wrong.
@ Frantz - Sexual connotations yes (Aliens head/chestburster & egg/Facehuggers underside), but not everything about the Alien is sexual. Miners???
ReplyChesty LarooPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
Well here is something on Earth that explains some of the practicality of our double jaw friend the Xenomorphs.
Did you know moray eels have two sets of jaws?
http://www.destination-scuba.com/Moray-eel.html
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
Yes its called a pharyngeal jaw, Mantis have something similar.
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
it was "made in Japan" to explain the Biology of the thing and I agree completely!
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
Okay next, does anyone have any theories regarding the triangular shaped appendage above the four hose-like dorsal appendages?
ReplyReeceMacoyPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
Some interesting theories being tossed out there. I remember giger saying the tubes on the back were to help the alien balance its head. But that could have been a production reason to help the actor playing the alien, not a resonbig for the alien character itself. Also I thought the tubes were to help it make those nasty secretions to help build the environment around it, for example the deleted cocooned scene in alien and the hive in aliens.
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
@RM - Secretions, I always assumed the secretions came from their mouths/maws, they are forever drooling.
ReplyReeceMacoyPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
Snorkel
I've wondered that myself, it seems like quite an excess of tubes on its backside. But sometimes when things are designed, especially creatures, there's no purpose behind the way it looks. The designer may want to make it as unique and odd looking as possible without thinking of thethe purpose forbehind each body part and appenndage.......that's left to the fanboys lol
ReplyThadus 12Prometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
He added the appendages to give the alien symmetry.Im sure its in the quadrilogy
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
That fifth triangular one at the base of the neck is perplexing as to a possible purpose.
ReplyReeceMacoyPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
Snorkel
True true on the drooling, but I think using the mouth would take forever to make those secretions, especially building those hive structures. I guess it will forever remain an unsolved mystery..........where's rober stack
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
It could take a while unless they do it on mass. I've always imagined the hive was created like this...
A brood of many aliens, regurgitating and excreting the remains of spent hosts, facehuggers and eggs which they have consumed use their hands, furiously constructing chambers, pits and reliefs, concreting together the discarded offal with the secreted resin from the maws as it hardens.
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
Actually what your stating is pretty close to the Darkhorse "Aliens Book 1" description, the bones and material used is often those of the xenomorphs of other hives (they really ran with the ant thing)
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
I remeber there was also an Alien anatomy diagram in the British reprints of american darkhorse comics, there's a box of them from issue 3 to the last one in my attic at my mums place.. not canon, but an interesting thing i remember is that the acid wasn't actually them alien blood, it was an evolved defence mechanism which ran under high pressure between 2 subdermal layers.
The backstory was that dissection was achievable through a vat filled with a high alkaline ph solution which has constantly pumped through to avoid concentration getting to high
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
I did draw my inspiration from there, but thought about it more specifically - Where are all the remains of used hosts, eggs and facehuggers and possibly other dead aliens and the skins discarded when they mature. All that "cr@p" has to go somewhere. Then, taking into account the creature is described as "the perfect organism" I thought of words associated with perfect, such as efficiency and renewable. From that stand point I think Dark Horse got it half right, so I imagined a way to fill in the other half.
That said, whose to say someone else doesn't have a better theory. But the dorsal appendages, I don't think that would work.
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
no no, sorry, wasn't accusing you of plagarism you just jogged my memory was all
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
I heard that too about the acid. But I think Alien Rez and AVP debunked that, plus theres always the facehugger in Alien. They cut it the knuckle, not much room for 2 subdermal layers there IMO.
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
now there's a thing, in AVP it removes the Aliens outer shell to create the "shield" generic ripley analogue, but does so without spilling any acid, argument for the defence mechanism hyptohesis?
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
Possibly, another possibility is that the Predator was taught Alien biology beforehand and knew that the aliens carapace had no connecting blood vessels - supported by the methodically way in which Scar dissected the alien, and from the deleted scene where he causes the inner jaw to extend (funny scene).
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
that was from the unrated edition? yeah saw that, and as good an explanation as any, those films just annoyed me though.. they were so.. demographic orientated..
but anyway, Alien anatomy, I beleive i remember Giger saying he studied industrial design for a time and applied the principals to designing or refining the creature, so the tubes on the back would have purpose i imagine. did i read that they were part of a sensory arrangement (in a non canon comic source probably) like sharks have in there nose for sensing variances in electrical fields, except external
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
I suspect electric field sensory would be stored inside the head and be forward facing, not backward facing, from an anatomical point of view.
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
ah but if you look at radar and sensory equipment on ships they usually mounted on a post for 360 field of detection, and not many people have snuck up on a xenomorph, but like i say that is comic canon, the games cite pheromone detection and am unsure as to what the films say
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
To date the films say nothing. Regards 360 degree perception, I'll come to that later.
Lets look at another aspect of the Alien...
In Alien, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection and AVP the aliens featured all have shiny domed carapaces, yet it Aliens and AVPR they have ridged carapaces. Theories anyone?
ReplyThadus 12Prometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
The dome head was designed to be one big eye, so 360 degree sight is possible
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
youger vs more mature was the old explanation before resurrection and AVP or drones vs warriors if you want to go to try and mix up everything with everything else (comics, games, films etc etc) from a purely film canon POV i like the mature vs not mature explanantion. thats excluding res and AVP which unfortunately i can't just do because i don't like them..
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumBiology Of The Alien/XenomorphDec 9, 2011
Heres my theory...
The Xenomorph is capable of eradicating an entire ecosystem of its indigenous population with a single egg.
This egg, containing a parasite known as the Facehugger, incubating the embryo of a fertile female within, implants the embryo within a suitable host. The embryo develops into a larva known as a Chestburster, from the manner in which it fatally leaves its hosts body. This larval fertile female quickly develops into its immature form, known as the Princess. This Princess, utilising the indigenous population as hosts to incubate embryos via direct implantation, spawns a brood of subservient infertile females, known as Warriors. Once mature, the Warriors begin constructing a Hive.
Once the Hive is established, the Princess develops into her mature form, producing an ovipositor from her abdomen, with each laid egg containing a Facehugger, this Queen now incapable of direct implantation. These Facehugger’s incubate the embryos of infertile males, which after gestating within living hosts mature into Drones, gradually replacing the Warriors.
Once the hive is complete, the Queen can produce a limited number of prized eggs, the parasites within carrying other fertile female embryos. Incubated within incapacitated hosts the larvae grow into Princesses, who are then forced from the Hive to establish their own.
ReplyThadus 12Prometheus ForumCheck this screentest outDec 9, 2011
Its interesting what 'Dallas' says to Ripley at the end. An ad-lib or scripted line?
ReplyDibdabPrometheus ForumCheck this screentest outDec 9, 2011
Theres also one out there with those two where she goes topless and sits on him and the director says cut:)
ReplyChesty LarooPrometheus ForumSpace Jockey chair imagesDec 9, 2011
If you want to see a glimpse of the trailer its at the end of this video... I know it sucks, just thought I'd throw it out there till we get the HD Official :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sijWJ92jZG8
ReplySpartacusAlien Movies ForumAlien Documentary.Dec 9, 2011
You have to scroll down to the right video which is called Alien Makers IV
It is by leaps and bounds the best thing I have ever seen on the making of Alien.
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumYour favourite graphic novelDec 8, 2011
getting thru the collected editions of akira, awesome but long, love devilman too.
other than that, the usual suspects of watchmen, Batman: Son of the Demon, the preacher clooected editions, Aliens book 1, the original AVP collected series etc
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumBlade Runner sequelDec 8, 2011
Anyone remember Soldier? Kurt russel getting paid a bunch of money to say about 10 words? That was supposed to be in the Blade runner unvierse but not a direct sequel or prequel.. lets hope prometheus doesn't turn out the same ;)
ReplyAlienPrometheus ForumFavourite Sci-Fi on TV Dec 8, 2011
I actually enjoy Terra Nova so far, sure some parts can be better, but i find it enjoyable.
@rick oh how i give a leg for it too!
ReplyRickPrometheus ForumFavourite Sci-Fi on TV Dec 8, 2011
Fox could make a killing with the following the Aliens Franchise has. Especially if Prometheus explodes at the theaters. After the sequel to Prometheus they could spin off a TV series
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumFavourite Sci-Fi on TV Dec 8, 2011
BSG: Reimagined series, definitive modern scifi drama
BSG: Original series (great at the the time and as a nostalgia hit)
Caprica: Really liked the direction it was going before it got cancelled
Firefly: Just.. awesome..
Space, Above and Beyond: i remember it being very cool
Stargate SG1: worth it for Richard Dean Anderson alone
DS9: not saying i'm a huge fan but was grittier than the other series
Enterprise: this was killed by tradtional trekkies who don't like change.. i thought it was a really good idea, and was more akin to Alien than startrek (in terms of the dirty space truckers concept as opposed to traditional shiny clean Trek)
Original Outer limits and The twilight zone: Comes from my love of sci fi short stories
Buck Rogers: early 80's first season, don't know what the hell happened with the second season
Alien Nation: Not bad.. not a favourite but not bad
Quantum leap: 10 years old, tuesday night 9pm bbc 2? sorted.
Babylon 5: At the time awesome, spaceships that operated (mostly) within in the realms of physics. Has not dated well at all though..
Red vs Blue: Comedy Halo? Genius
Red Dwarf: First four series
Tripping the Rift: irreverent and hilarious
ReplyAlienPrometheus ForumFavourite Sci-Fi on TV Dec 8, 2011
Oh fox would! Man a show about colonial marines going to different planets to fight SJs Xenos, and many other deadly creatures in space would be so cool!
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumFavourite Sci-Fi on TV Dec 8, 2011
"Red Dwarf"...ah...now there was a real funnny show.
ReplyRickPrometheus ForumFavourite Sci-Fi on TV Dec 8, 2011
Tec-B,
Space Above and Beyond....Didn't that run on Sci-Fi Channel for a while back in the early 2K's?
ReplyTec-BPrometheus ForumFavourite Sci-Fi on TV Dec 8, 2011
We had it on and off on BBC2 in the mid to late 90's. They had a habit of showing 5 episodes then not for a month, then a three, then stopping for 4 months and finishing the series after.. needed dedication to watch that show ;)
was notable for R. Lee Ermey reprising his full metal jacket role in the double episode pilot
ReplyTheuspromPrometheus ForumDEAD JOCKEY and His head Possibly...Dec 8, 2011
I'm going with the theory that it is a statue.
With all the secrecy surrounding this movie, there is absolutely no way they are going to reveal a creature in a still.Don't forget these pics are strategic and are designed to make us think more.
Anyway, the size is all wrong to be a Jockey.
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