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IRaptus Nice XD

Now I'd consider Call myself because she's so full of spunk and man is Ryder cute af. Call is also very humane and caring, she should have killed Purvis but wanted to save him and look how she treated Vriess. She also wanted to stop the Xeno threat before anyone even knew it was.

Exactly, I believe Weyland "infected" him through his personality and his obsession with creators/creation. He is truly Peter's son down to his ego, he won't admit the slightest mistake. He's like Adam that tasted the fruit (the pathogen) and became impure and full of sin. Serve in heaven or reign in hell?

Bishop

Call can be as a self-righteous as she wants but she crossed the line spilling the only alcohol on the ship.

Thoughts_Dreams Xenos don't have humor- they are just marauding godless killing machines and that is probably how it bested the Joker.

That is a really cool xeno. Are there other pics? I never saw that before. 

Sorry, the theme is incomplete. I will repeat it as soon as possible

Part of the rub is that he sees himself as superior when he is inferior displaying any humanity. 

Even Walter acknowledged that the idea of superiority requires an ego- a human notion.

At any rate, it makes for good water cooler conversation.

Haha I would strongly consider choosing David because (as Lawrence of Arabia said), what an oppurtunity it would be to interact with and be FRIENDS with a being of that capability! 

I would go with Walter though. Bishop was a great synthetic (assuming he did not put those eggs on the Sulaco...), but I just like Walter more haha 

David sees humanity as inferior and arrogant to which I say would be a pretty good assessment. Just look at what's going down in Virginia. He was born into slavery and made to know it despite knowingly being superior in every way and he's had to deal with this humiliation throughout most of Weyland's life up until the Prometheus mission. He's tried to see the good in us and brush aside the pain, as shown with his love for Lawrence, but it was too much. Humanity is capable of great things and good deeds but it is often drowned out by the cruel acts we commit. I don't blame David entirely but wish he had grown up under better circumstances, like if Shaw was his creator he would be an entirely different person.

Thanks- I missed that one. 

Yeah, it was a promotional video for that walk-in "haunted house" in the U.K. I believe. I posted on it before except for the video lol

BigDave- 

i had a similar star wars toy story. my plan was to decorate my first house with them so they were safely in my dads loft.

Went round one day it was over a decade since they were put away for good.

My Dad gave them all away to someone and said bin them when you finished we dont need them.

made the phone call 6 years since the bin took them.

thats partly why i stopped loving star wars so much. it was too painful. i had EVERYTHING. 50 storm troopers maybe 15 emporer guard (just 2 exmples) started with original figures star wars then to TESB & ROTJ 

the worst was a one off proto of a troop mobile carrying 3 on each side and 2 driving sat in the front seats each with an opening door. never seen that anywhere over the years. it was a test they told me it was for the display. thought i had a little gold not not to be. im off to cry !!!!!!

;)

Tom I had to look twice- I thought that was a pic of Gordon Freeman!

Nice work. Consider posting that pic 04/01/2018!

I forgot about this thread. Nice garb everyone!

Hi there. Figured I'd add the jacket that I was working on and am now wearing. Don't mind the hat. 

Cosmonaut-Copper "What's the trick, man?!"

Covenant. I LOVE Prometheus and what it does for the franchise and the introduction of David and the pathogen but David's continued journey in Covenant is way more intriguing. I love how dark it got and David's descent into madness feels so Giger inspired. It's also endlessly quotable just like Prometheus but even more so.

That is what people have been speculating, but the script and comments from the film makers tell us that these are actually the Engineers. They may be something like a purer, original race of Engineers, not the enhanced, engineered versions we have seen before, but they are supposed to be the Engineers.

Ridley said the Juggernauts come and go on a regular basis. Since we know that seeding a planet for them is partly a religious action, I just assumed that they regularly pick a person to be sacrificed, send a ship and crew off to the far reaches to seed a world, then the crew of that ship is celebrated upon thier return. Ships would also be sent out for regular monitoring and influencing of their creations, as they did on Earth.

10 or 20 years between return visits may seem to be nothing more than a blink of any eye to them.

Lawrence of Arabia Like Daniels said- He thinks of everything!

I would choose David and make sure to always pour my own tea. Bet he wouldn't go mad if you treat him like a normal person. And I would soooo watch Lawrence of Arabia with him.

And, watching a third time this morning! In my defense, I was a bit too wasted last night for it to receive my full attention.

@Ingeniero

*Tosses tissue in trash and ceases undignified blubbering*

Lol, no worries Ingeniero. We're Sci-Fi horror fans, sensitivity shouldn't really be part of the territory. Nevertheless, I recently found a super old story on FanFiction.net, where the events of Alien 3 and Resurrection were just a dream and Bishop, Newt, Ripley and Hicks got a happy ending.

Of course, retconning is considered blasphemous here, but that story is what I choose to believe!

I was glad to have found it too, because up until then, I was working on my own fan fiction wherein Bishop gets repaired and reactivated but it didn't retcon anything and it was going to be a depressing story.

Anyhow, Ingeniero, who is your most beloved character in the series? I will find a picture of them for your enjoyment. :)

dk He'd bring you some of that space weed, dawg.

Nicely reviewed, glad I'm not the only one to see the brilliance in Covenant and what it retroactively does for Prometheus. :) I love the nihilism of these films and hopes the sequel doesn't change that. Same goes for the "Ripley" of these prequels, David. Please keep him the core, he's the thread that keeps it all woven together.

On second thought- maybe Walter since he excels at cooking and hydroponics/botany. 

I'd choose David. I'd be his best friend and maybe he wouldn't go madman lol That or we can rule this galaxy together :) Realistically I'd choose either Walter or Bishop.

cuponator3000 Nailed it. I also found his duhh humorous lol

Bishop. 

having to go along using A.I which have no fail-safe button or code to suspend the A.I for a period. (as long as it takes to get a hammer) seems silly however they patched this over by presenting the fiction world which probably now A.I is indistinct from our own kind. A.I is everywhere and it is presented they have no need for such fail safe operations as they could not cause any threat.

Now David obviously feels emotion which perhaps causes distress. He was the butt of the joke when in the company of the employees. Now their is a fault or poor code which led to this. or Weyland knew what he ws doing and created as close to a soul as possible. 

Now if you ask me, david over reacted. Creating or re creating the Xeno or any morph to unleash on humans for making him the butt of their jokes. Well David you are different and i a =m afraid that can mean target. Surely with all Davids knowledge and imprinted code he should be well equipped to deal with say a Vickers or Holloway.

It does not sit with me. he is this mad nazi looking A.I who was called a few names threw his dummy out and tried to destroy EVERYTHING.

Boring. just find it hard to accept. maybe Michelle Johnston or Big Dave could try and tell me in big words so my eyes open but i just think it is tterrible easoning

sounds interesting when it lands ...

EDIT: Now it is up. i am sorry but it is over my head i cant undertand what this is. BigDave? Kethol?

VivisectedEngineer, I'm a Michael Bishop fan too. We only got to see one of his creations in the later line of androids. I'm sorry I had to go there to make my point. I admit I should have been more sensitive.

Can't "blame" him, but once he goes awry, just as with any serial killer, we would have to stop him. Even though serial killers are "human", we recognize them as "abnormal" or "sick", so we must do the same with David8 as well.

The story in Alien Res is much more real, so I'll def go with that, although I'd skip the "baby Alien" BS...

How fox let them pull THAT ridiculousness, I'll never figure.

I would choose Aliens because of Bishop and Vasquez. Also Aliens had mostly witty one-liners mostley! ^^

@dk

Lol, I actually quote all the A L I E N movies, all the time - but not even the quotable lines.

Like, a few weeks ago my car got wrecked and my husband said the insurance company would probably declare it totaled.

So I said "Yeah. It could be re-worked, but it will never be top of the line again."

When I quote something that gives people pause because it's just too off topic or too much of a non sequitur, I simply say

"Just something from a film I like." :)

It was probably an automated defense that went up as soon as the pathogen was detected. It did seem to stop the urns, as they were solid and broke on it, but once the pathogen atomized into smaller particles, it just passed through.

Here is what Matt Hatton and Dane Hallett said about the shield on the AVP podcast when they were asked if there was anything in the script that they wished had made the final cut.

MATT - Dane, do you remember when there was the whole thing of the…

DANE - Quarantine. Oh yeah, the satellite.

MATT - Yeah, yeah. The quarantine sort of net over the planet.

DANE - yeah, I forgot that.

MATT - I think a touch of that is still in there, where he (David) drops the bombs and they seem to spread over an invisible sort of shield, but then they break through, and that sort of thing…There was this whole thing earlier on where they (Covenant crew) had to fix the satellite to try and take that thing down so that they could get through this electrical storm thing. It seems like there are just parts of that now.

DANE - Just in case anyone didn't know what that was, in the script originally there was… the Engineers had created  this satellite that would protect any foreign bodies coming in or out of the planet. That's what was preventing all of the transmissions from getting through and that's also what stopped David from getting out clear SOS's, or whatever it was.

A Joker Xeno :D Since they tend to take traits from their host: I wonder how it was able to defeat him and if it took a long time being that the Joker is crazy and unpredictable.

I'm glad you said it, dk! I got a kick out of Scott's, "DUH!" For me though it just kind of cemented my feelinfs about that twist. From the first time I saw Covenant in the theater, I was one of many (if not all) whho saw it coming, but I liked it because they milked it for sooo long. Daniels fixing him up was tense and then when he was assisting with the Xenomorph on the ship he started the sequence out with an almost smirk (was it a smaile? Was it not??). Through the rest of it he showed too much emotion to be Walter, but they kept holding onto the true reveal. Then they literally made my skin crawl when David flips the evil switch and Daniels has to go to sleep with that fact. Absolutely WILD way to end her journey in the film. 

Short (and coherent) version: The twist was obvious, but it worked because of how long they milked it. 

@Ingeniero

Noooo! :,-( Of all the dismembered synthetics pics you could have chosen, you had to go with mortally-wounded-Bishop. -_- My one weakness. *Cries*

It's definitely not that easy to blame David for the path he has chosen. Although I do blame him because I think even he should have known (at a some point) that his quest is completely unethical. 

That's one reason why he is the villain! I think the other reason is that he is what he is. A synthetic person that has become free and was given everything he needs to just destroy humanity. It is a little bit cliche even, but creating a highly functioning creature such as David (all of them) or any other android is f&%$ed up! He was basically born into slavery (he had no real option of escape until the Prometheus mission) and similiar to one of the replicant's issues in Bladerunner, he was constantly learning how to be human and just BE because he lacked the life experiences of adult humans. He knew from his first interraction with Weyland that humans suck, so it seems like everything he ever did was just, like, fuel to the fire. 

This is hardly the first time we have seen AI go rogue in a film, but I think we are on the verge of androids being a thing. Like, first generation David type stuff. Human-looking androids as part of our lives on the daily. It's just that at this point in time, technology wise and with the social-political climate (and the actual climate!), David represents a possibly real issue. Maybe the androids we end up dealing with won't go the exact route David took haha, but yeah.