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Not too excited about this to be honest. It has always been about the human journey to me and even though AVP (2004) was alright as entertainment, most of the human characters weren't that good. Unfortunately, if we'll get another AVP I guess that it won't be that great unless they have really learned what didn't work with the two previous movies. The first one was popcorn entertainment, watchable but not very good, but the second one was vomit. Make it a one-off, that could work.

It seems to me that they need a decent script, characters that we care about (more than 2-3) and fairly good actors for it to work. Focus on the human journey, the monsters are there to support it. The prequels have shown us how to not make things.

Have it on some unknown planet, so it adds to the mystery. Usually designing the planets isn't the problem, the problem this far seems to be the characters, and you need a good story. If you get those two things right you seem more likely to get a good result and also don't cut character-scenes just for run-time because that trashes it (prequels).

I think they could gone and MADE a ALIEN V if they SET it after Alien Resurrection.

I had came up with a Few Ideas before.... where you can even have Ripley 8 and to get away with the Age Difference well you have some CGI Overlay with Ripley 8 but then you show her Becoming Ill and Fighting with her Inner Humanity and Xenomorph Need to Survive.....

Call could suggest she knows of People who can HELP HER...

So she is taken to a Lair and is Placed on a Table or Cryo-Pod, but we Flash Forwards and Ripley 8 is starting to Age, her Skin becoming Grey/Leathery like what was Happening to Holloway.

Call can then Inform her that they could-not HELP her... so Ripley leaves and she is NOW Aging Fast, (so you dont have to USE any Make Up, well just to change her Skin Tone).

The Autons have come up with a DRUG that can Suppress her Aging Rate...

But latter Ripley 8 Discovers the TRUTH that the Autons have a CULT and maybe they Worship David in Reality........... they REALLY have been using Ripley 8 to Obtain her DNA and Create some Species... Their Agenda was for CALL to Obtain a Specimen and Destroy the Auriga..... so the Autons can Create something to AID them in World Domination.

*A more Humanoid Super-Human like Ripley 8 but these START to De-Age Quickly and then DIE...

*A Hybrid Xenomorph Creature with a New Way to Procreate.

After the Discovery.... Call tries to GIVE a Good Reason for it.... but Ripley says she CANT let them USE the DNA of the Xenomorph....

Call threatens to Destroy the Vials of Drug that can SLOW DOWN the Rate that Ripley is DYING.....   then she Destroys them.... Ripley becomes ANGRY and her Xeno-DNA starts to take Over.... from her Frail getting Older Body she begins to EVOLVE into more Xeno-DNA.

So we see Ripley 8 go and Mutate/Evolve into a Hybrid and this Hybrid gives her the Strength to Thwart the Plans of the AUTON CULT.....

She is able to CONTROL the Hybrid Xenomorphs and after a BATTLE and Victory we see that Ripley 8 knows she cant ALLOW them to Survive and Destroys them.

She then Struggles with her Humanity as she Wrestled with the Decision to KILL the Hybrids.... Fearing that her Humanity is going away... she then SACRIFICES herself....... Destroys herself..... 

Blomkamp has been talking to other newspapers recently.

In the above article, he theorises that Ridley Scott saw "Chappie" and that nailed the coffin shut as far as Alien 5 under his stewardship was concerned. Also, he never spoke to Ridley again.

It's not a bad theory. Everyone loved District 9, but his follow-up movies Elysium and Chappie were both samey samey. I was horrified at the prospect of Alien 5 looking anything like any of those three movies.

HERE is a Interview that was done for AVPGalaxy were they Interview some of the Actors who Played some of the Engineers in Alien Covenant.

"Scott James –  The prosthetics were full face pieces including pieces around our eyes and the bridge of the nose. There was also extensive make-up over the whole face and feet"

This Indicates it was NOT just a Quick Paint Job and so to APPLY say Prosthetics more Defined like in Prometheus and add a more Glossy Paint would NOT have Cost them Considerably more Time and Money.  And so it seems they was INTENDED to look how they did.

"Billy Mansell – Now this is a good question! We worked with second unit that day and the second unit director wasn’t giving much away to what we really where but they did confirm we are Engineers! And the costume designer called us all “her Engineers” so we do know we are 100% Engineers but I do believe our origins is something Mr Scott is holding close to his chest… what I will say there was speculation that the Prometheus Engineers where more like a military type rather than our more civilian look I think all will be revealed if Sir Ridley gets his way and films the next one."

Confirming the Planet 4 guys were Engineers, the Civilization Kind which Ridley Scott had also Confirmed.

"Billy Mansell – It was never discussed why! Like I said in an earlier question this is something Ridley and crew never spoke about but I am in the belief that Mr Whytes character was more of a military type where my character was more civilian type! Yeah the eyes and skin are different but who’s to say it’s because the Ian whyte type is enhanced genetically for space exploration and combat? Who knows?"

Speculating that the LV-223 Engineers could be Genetically Engineered/Enhanced.  And i do think THIS is what Ridley Scott was going for.

Some of Davids Sketches showed Engineers who some appeared more like the Planet 4 guys and some more like the Prometheus guys but on Planet 4 some of them had more Similar look to Prometheus as far as Bone Structure etc and as Ridley Scott had said... there could be some Diversity in Appearance of  the Engineers just as there is with HUMANS.

So you could Explore the Aftermath of Alien Resurrection or even cover something Prior.

"I'm assuming Earth is a big mess"

Certainly is................. This would Indicate that some Apocalyptic Event has taken Place on Earth, well at least some of the Earth.  This looks like the Aftermath of Nuclear War.

And looking into the Background for Call we can Assume we have Synthetics having a Dominant Role on Earth, even Sub-Creating the Autons and so its maybe NOT just a Case of Human vs Human.... the World could have Faced Chaos between Humans and their Creations.

In the AFTERMATH of such a Event we could see a LOT of the Worlds Technology gone and we have a Very Mad Max kind of World.....  But some will have a Abundance of Technology we know that Mankind would have Colonized other Worlds and had Outposts and Stations.

It could be the USM Auriga was USED to Obtain the Xenomorph to maybe USE as a Weapon to Turn the Tide of War on Earth, well to Gain the USM and their Benefactors some CONTROL back on Earth.

So for a LOT of People on Earth then getting any kind of Technology and Advanced Weaponry could be Difficult.  You could have a lot of Scavengers on the Earth trying to make ENDS meet.

damn I lost my old signature

I hope this AVP is better then AVP'04

I think we haven't fully seen the capabilities of the xenomorphs yet, in my fanfiction the AVPU I use the alternate canon of David merely creating a secondary xenomorph species while the xenomorphs encountered in Alien and Aliens are from the Engineers. I wrote in the xenomorphs ability to evolve over time and I wrote the reason why the xenomorphs haven't been hunted to extinction is because as of right now its more effective and less expensive to avoid xenomorph inhabited worlds.

Aliens versus Predator Universe

"........2380 it seems that NOT a LOT had Advanced since ALIENS"

I'm assuming Earth is a big mess and weapon companies in disrepair ...Military is probably looking for a easy ready-made weapon ( Xenomorph / alien tech ) ?

so Sorry if this is OFF TOPIC...

There could be Parts of the Time-Line where some Events have Happened that we just have NOT seen on Screen.

Was the Nostromo the FIRST of any Humans sent to the Derelict?  Could that HOLE had been from After the Space Jockey Event?   But with the AC Plot then the Time-Line from when the Derelict is on LV-426 until the Nostromo is SHORT but this does-not mean that Humans had NOT been on the Derelict prior to ALIEN.

Post ALIEN...... then in Aliens DC we see the Derelict has a HOLE where there was NONE in ALIEN and this HOLE looks like something has Exploded from the INSIDE.  Could this be Evidence that someone had GONE BACK to the Derelict after the Nostromo Mission?

But back to the OT... 

I do think if we had another Movie or TV Series then Ideally i think Exploring between 2100-2250 would be the Ideal Time-Line to do so.  But saying that looking at the Military Technology of 2380 it seems that NOT a LOT had Advanced since ALIENS.  But saying that with AC it seemed NOT a LOT as FAR as Weaponry has Advanced for like 100 Years.

I Guess if a TOOL does it Job then it does-not Need to be Changed... The Sword, and Knives (for all Purposes) have NOT really Advanced much for Hundreds of Years....

so with Weaponry as FAR as Guns then maybe Materials/Weight, and Speed/Number of Rounds you can Fire/Hold would be all the  Improvements you would Require.... plus the Ammo being made from Stronger/Penetrating Materials and maybe being Explosive Rounds.

Maybe it would be COOL to see Laser Guns and the like... but you have to think in Practical Terms... The amount of Energy thats Needed to make a Laser be able to CUT through Armour and the like for the USE as a Portable Weapon is Currently HUGE... and there would  be NO-WAY it would be Small Enough to be used as a Assault Weapon.

And so when we look at say Star Wars Blasters....  the Energy/Technology to allow a Riffle/Pistol to Produce a Energy Blast like that would be Something that maybe in Context to the Alien Franchise is just something that cant be MADE PORTABLE.

And so when we Consider say the Marine Pulse Riffle compared to Storm Trooper Blaster is their a Massive Difference in their Ability to Kill a Human even ONE with some Armour like a Storm Trooper Suit?

so its Logical that Laser/Blaster like Energy Weapons are Restricted to Fighter Ships, Tanks and the like.... as its coming up with the WAY to make the Technology that can Produce that Energy fit into something like a Pistol and Riffle.  So i think the ALIEN Franchise is Quite Realistic as FAR as Portable Weapons Systems.

"I'm starting to be in favor of a reboot / reimagining"

If they do go this ROUTE.... then you can Change a lot, you dont have to go and have Ripley, or the Ship being Called the Nostromo etc.....

You keep the Xenomorph and can Change it a bit..

You can maybe keep the Juggernaught/Derelict Ship Aesthetic or Change it bit.

Maybe you can KEEP the Weyland-Yutani Company and give some History to that and Change that a bit.   But i dont think you have to go and Basically make ALIEN in a like for like by just Changing a Few things... you can Basically START with something Different if your going to do a Reboot.

I think with the ALIEN Time-Line as FAR as the Movies it does Raise some Questions and Points...

Prior to the Prequels we have to ASK!

*How did Special Order-937 come to be?  How much did W-Y know about those Eggs before the Nostromo was sent to LV-426.

*Why after Failing to Obtain a Specimen via the Nostromo did the Company seem to NOT be Interested in going back, were they aware of the Derelict/Special Order-937 when they was Setting Up the Outpost of Hadleys Hope?

*Why was the Company Obsessed trying to get Ripley?  Is SHE the ONLY last Source for a Xenomorph?

And so when we get to ALIEN Resurrection you would think that by Virtue of them trying to Obtain the Xenomorph via Ripleys DNA, then you have to ASSUME that there was NO-WHERE else to Obtain a Specimen.

A Simple Answer would have to be that the Company were NOT that 100% Sure of what was on LV-426, and after the Failure of Special Order-937 they just Deemed it of being NOT that Important......    Sometime latter maybe Volcanic Activity and Storms had Hidden the Derelict from being Detected by those who would be Surveying the Moon for Colonization.

The Special Order-937 something that was Hidden/Covered up and Forgotten.  As it would seem Bizarre to just LOOSE Interest in the Specimen, then some 35 Years the Company goes to Build a Outpost and Attempt to Terra-Form LV-426.

After the Destruction of Hadleys Hope then the Derelict is Rendered Useless or Considered to be GONE....  Hence that after  the Death of the Runner and Sacrifice of Ripley in Alien 3 on Fury 161 this meant the END of the Xenomorph.

Until 200 Years latter the USM corp begin to Obtain a Specimen via Cloning Ripley from her DNA.

And so THIS meant there was NO real Loose Ends.... only things to Question would be as to HOW/WHEN did they Discover that there was a Specimen of Importance on LV-426 and to WHY they Never had Obtained any after the Events of the Nostromo Mission to LV-426.

But this does mean NOT much Scope to another ALIEN MOVIE between ALIEN and ALIEN R.....  However this does-not mean you could NOT go and Explore such a thing.... Alien Isolation did as such and its a CASE of being Careful to NOT go and Conflict the Franchise and Tie-Up Loose Ends... (from things left after you Explore another Avenue to the Xenomorph say prior to 2179 and after).

The Prequels had Expanded the Universe but by doing so it Creates many more Loose Ends and Questions... Especially WHY go and Pursue LV-426 and Ripley for the Xenomorph and Related.

This is WHY i am Concerned about the TV Series its Screaming either Reboot or Totally Conflict the Franchise.

I think that YES the Xenomorph is a Hostile and Dangerous Foe... what i mean by Canon Fodder is they was shown to NOT be that Tough to Deal with, if you have the Right Weaponry.  And Especially if they are Engaged in OPEN WARFARE as in Open Ground....  but the same can be said for Fighting Lions, if your Outnumbered 5-1 by Lions your NOT going to Survive... Unless you have Space/Distance and Firepower then they Easy Pickings.

AVPR made them (Xenomorph) even more of a Easy Pickings....

The Xenomorph is best USED from the Dark and Confined Spaces, and it Worked with the First AVP.... and with ALIENS there was scenes of them using the Structure of the Hadleys Hope Station to their Advantage.

So i think it Depends on how you Show the Xenomorph Threat, if NOT done right then you could END UP with like Starship Troopers.

"David 8 is a great link to the past, easy to tie the series together"

I think that YEAH he could be the Connective Tissue of the Franchise as the Prequels have indicated he is the ONE who has Instigated the Xenomorph, it is LIKELY he is behind Special Order-937.  And there is a Chance that RS would have shown us that DAVIDS A.I is Uploaded to the Weyland-Yutani Systems and so David could be the ONE who is Pulling the Strings.

But its a case of NOT everyone would be Pleased with the Franchise having a HIGH EMPHASIS on David as FAR as him being a Pivotal Role to the Overall Plot/Threat.

I think a KEY thing with doing another ALIEN Movie would be (same maybe applies to TV Series if trying to be Canon) is that you have to TRY and NOT go and Contradict/Conflict the other Movies or leaving Loose Ends/Plot Holes.

This does-not APPLY if your going to Reboot the Franchise though.

I think if its True then its Hard to Judge at the Moment it would Depend on the BUDGET as to WHO you can Cast.

A Cross-Over done right could MAKE them Money i think it has more Chance than a ALIEN Movie unless they will Re-Cast Miss Weaver but that doe-not mean you Guaranteed a Good Movie.

Because with the ALIEN Franchise its been so Fractured with what People want to see and HOW they Felt about the Prequels and even Last ALIEN Movies that to MAKE a ALIEN Movie that would get the Majority of ALIEN Fans go like "Yeah i Definitely going to see that"

There is a Risk that you make more of a Mockery of the Xenomorph as FAR as being that THREAT that it was.

But the same would be said IF we had another ALIENS like Fragfest... with Marines/Mercenaries kicking Xeno-Butt.....  more so If a Old Age Ripley returns to kick Xeno-Butt.

It's a daft timeline.

Billions of humans with the ability to travel FTL. The galaxy should be well colonized by the year 2150. ANY Engineers / Alien races should be well known by this time. Xeno's would be extinct...nuked from above....or drone hunted to oblivion. Hunting expeditions for sport perhaps?

Probes / drones would have scoured and returned 3D 32K glyph video of every meter of every planet / moon in every star system within a thousand light years of Earth.

You could sit on a couch on Earth while a probe shows you everything on any planet in the galaxy in Realtime.

The telescope tech by then will mean there is no planet or moon you could hide from. The human race will find you!

The second you add FTL and anti-gravity to your universe destroys sense of distance, time, scale.

Going hard science would make the long timeline work.

MonsterZero

I like the rich history of the current timeline

The Problem with Reboots is they are usually messy and become been there done that. Unless done right and have a good writing team and visionary.

well the xenomorphs in ALIENS still were a tough bunch to fight, i don't think they were cannon fodder since we only saw a few xenomorphs visibly dying on screen. The marines were always on the defensive and never on the offerensive

This timeline is just too damn long.

I'm starting to be in favor of a reboot / reimagining.

Instead of Ripley floating in space for 57 years ...Have Weyland Yutani investigate the loss of the Nostromo and immediately begin ALIENS.

Ripley is found and recovered after about a month in the Narcissus.

Marines and the corp. interrogate her while she's still in the Calpamos system, forcing her return to LV-426. ( Amanda is still alive )

No crazy idea about terra-forming a tiny worthless moon (Lv-426).

Keep the marines ( Hicks, Hudson, Bishop, Etc...) Keep Newt or dump her.....( She could be aboard a mom and pop salvaging ship there to loot the Nostromo or something )

Instead of the action based around a terra forming plant, have it aboard the Juggernaut or in some Pyramids / tombs.

Bishop has to make his way through incredible creepy Juggernaut tunnels....Multiple queens...You name it.

Aliens 3 ...10 years later

A:R twenty years after Ripley's death.

Alien: V 1 month later Earth finds out about the xeno.

Keeps the technology from getting out of hand.

Man you did a better job then me at organizing the ERAs

(clap clap clap)

This just dilutes and divides the franchise even more (IMHO). It's going to be Filmed with B-actors and directors. Straight to Video On Demand...Might as well be TV series.

David 8 is a great link to the past, easy to tie the series together ( make it somewhat coherent ). Having to resurrect or clone someone ( Ripley ) to tie the series is awkward.

I'd rename the Engineers the Nukkumassa, Finnish for sleeping.

Reawakening David 8 would be cool. 

Tall Man "What do you remember?"

David "Not much I'm afraid"

Tall Man "What can you tell us about the starship Prometheus?"

It takes David 30 seconds to respond 

David "I have no memories of this vessel"

"so Mankind can Reclaim it back"

A dead earth trilogy would be awesome.

I think that YEAH they are better off to make AVP as NOT any way Canon.... as in the AVP Movie and AVPR.

The Advantage with AVP is that you can MESS with the Canon and Lore of the Franchises and BEND them a bit...

Do they even Explore some Elements of the Prequels as in the Engineers?  With Prometheus it had OPENED the Door to a Expanded Universe of Races/Worlds.... Plenty of Places to go HUNTING!

The Problem with the AVP Franchise we had, was to SET IT on Earth in the Early 21st Century..

The Next Time we see the Xenomorph could again be in the 21st Century on Earth (TV Series) which i think would be a MISTAKE!

If they Reboot the AVP Franchise and do-not make the same Mistake (SET ON EARTH, before say 2200) then i think MAYBE it could Work...

This does-not go and Surprise me.... ive said since the Disney take over that its LIKELY we would see a AVP Reboot before seeing any Alien V or Alien Covenant 2 etc.

Disney like their POPCORN.....

And the AVP Franchise is just that Action Horror Popcorn.. the Problem with the AVP Movies was the Setting..... and then Execution...

The AVP Universe should be SET in the Time-Line of like 2150-2250.  And IF they do that and do it RIGHT then i think this could be a MONEY MAKER for Disney.

I think as long as they Show it as a Alternative Reality then it can Work....

I think this is WHERE a Alien TV Series would be Good... you can have it like the American Horror Story where Each Season will Cover something Else but have a Connection to Each other...

The Problem is having Fans see a ALIEN TV Spin Off and NOT have it about Xenomorphs.

2025-2050 Era in the Alien Universe is a Era that in Part would Encompass the Advancements that Weyland Industries are making, at this Point it seems Weyland is interested in Genetic Engineer/Cures for Ailments and  Diseases, but he also is Heavily Invested in Creating Synthetic Humans.   He has other Ambitions too.... which would Include the Advancement to get Humans to Explore beyond our Solar System.

The Yutani Company also have their OWN Projects and seem to be Heavily Involved in IT/A.I and Communications but also more into Military Application. But there are likely other Companies/Factions with Grand Ideas of Technological Domination.

The 2050-2075 Era is where we would have come to a Common Use for Synthetics/Robots, its also where Space Travel and World Building would come into Play.

The 2075-2100 Era is the Era where the Galaxy is our Oyster (well the Near By) as this would be the Period of Advanced FTL Travel and its Advancements, where each Decade that Passes the Further we can GO into Deep Space.  And so this is the Era of Exploration.... looking for Moons/Worlds to MINE for Resources, to Set-Up Outposts... while looking for that GOLDEN NUGGET...  Earth like Worlds.

The Tail End of this Era would see the Disappearance of Peter Weyland and the MERGER of the Weyland-Yutani Company or the Beginnings.

The Era of 2100-2125 would be Similar to the Above as we Travel the Stars looking at Worlds to Gain Resources and Set-Up Outposts...  The Weyland-Yutani Corp likely being THE or ONE of the Major Forces in World Building and other stuff.... a MONOPOLY that they are a MAIN PLAYER...

This is the Era also of the Xenomorph Origins.... its the Era that Special Order 937 will come from.

The Next 50 Years and so 2125-2175 is a Era where World Building Far and Wide is a Reality, where we have the Colonial Marines, and its a Era with some Mystery.

WHY (or have they) Not gone back to LV-223, LV-426, or Planet 4 and Origae-6 and the like.   And so this is a POTENTIAL Era to Explore a ALIEN Movie or TV Series.

The Next Era of 50 Years from 2175-2225, what is it like on Earth and other Colonies, are Synthetics a Important Part?  The Weyland Yutani Corp had Wanted the Xenomorph for its Weapons Division, and so after the Sacrifice of Ripley on Fury 161 is that it?  Is there NO-MORE as FAR as the Xenomorph?

And so this Aftermath to ALIENS Era is again something that would be IDEAL to Set a ALIEN Movie/TV Show.....

But then its a Question of does a ALIEN Universe have to be about the Xenomorph?  The Prequels have show  us the Potential for other Horrors... and Engineer Technology.... and by the PLOT then its HOW MANY Worlds are there with Intelligent Species?

Can these be a Threat or are we a Threat to them... the Prequels also SHOW the Threat of A.I and trying to PLAY GOD...

Speaking of them (GOD) was Planet 4 the Last we would EVER get to see with our Engineers.....

So YES the Different Eras do allow us to Interact with more Worlds, Different Agendas and Corporations but also Different Races and Threats but the KEY is to TRY and NOT go and Contradict anything.... or make sure you TIDY UP the Loose Ends ;)

If we are looking at the Era to Explore the Xenomorph..... then i think the 2125-2225 would be IDEAL... but you could take that up to say 2250 etc.

"They could have focused on characters beyond Ripley"

Ripley was the MAIN Character in all the Franchise the Problem with Alien R is that the other Characters just NEVER stood out... they was like Meh!  But the same can be said with the Prequels..... for me CALL had Stood out as the Most Interesting Character.

The Problem that is Faced when doing a NEW Movie is you NEED to have Good Characters which means you have to Create/Build a New Character but then its a Case of are these just for ONE Movie?  Do you SET-UP a Sequel to Continue with these Characters?

Even so then that does-not mean they would be Continued (Dr Shaw from Prometheus for Instance) and with Daniels and Tennessee they are NOT really Characters that MOST would be like "Yeah! i wanna see them again!"

And so i think THIS is WHY the Alien V ideas came back to bringing BACK our Ripley because they FELT you had a Character that People could Connect with.

No you DONT...... you can maybe Introduce a Character who is Connected... and so Alien Isolation worked well because it was Amanda looking for what Happened to her Mother.

So they could have gone and made say a Sequel to Alien 3, were you have say Hicks who has a Brother and his Brother got a Message from the Sulaco saying they are coming HOME... but he NEVER did.

The Prison Planet Fury 161 is full of who the Company would call... Expendable and those Prisoners know of the Xenomorph....

The Company came up BUST!

But you think they would NOT go through the Prison with a Fine Tooth Comb?

Ripley was Infected..... the Dog/Cow also had Gestated a Xenomorph and so where are the Face Huggers?

You think the Company would NOT go and TRY to Gain a Specimen from the DNA of a Face Hugger? 

Maybe the Results are NOT as Good.... a LOT of Mutated Inmates in the Process to get something thats a  BIT DIFFERENT...

But sometimes the Fans would NOT like something Different and so something that STEERS too FAR away from the Xenomorph Aesthetic is maybe something the Fans would NOT be Pleased with.

But again..... maybe Fury 161 is NOT the Last Place that the Company can TRY to get the Xenomorph in the Cinematic Universe....  One things from Blomkamps Alien V is that they had Recovered a Engineer Ship that seemed to NOT be in too Good Condition... was this the Derelict?

Could the Derelict had Survived the Blast of Hadleys Hope?   Would the Eggs be Affected by Radiation?

Regardless of WHO/WHEN the Xenomorph was Created we can Wonder... was ONLY the ONE Ship Loaded with Eggs?

"I would rather a more familiar ALIEN universe rather than reinventing the ALIEN  Universe by placing it further into the future"

A Wise Man Once Said...... that World War 3 will be Fought with Nukes etc, and World War 4 will be Fought with Sticks and Stones.....

If we look at the Aftermath of Alien Resurrection than the Future on Earth for MOST of us could be a MAD MAX kind of Planet/Tech Level.... Salvage what you can.

As FAR as Tech then YES the thing that made the Xenomorph a Threat was when you had NO FAIR means to Deal with it....  they was Basically Cannon Fodder in ALIENS but the Marines do have Explosive Round Ammunition.

So if you had Marines with even more Advanced Weapons then the Xenomorph would NOT be as much a Threat......  And so a PART of the PLOT with Prometheus could Potentially get us to look at the Xenomorph as a bit POINTLESS...

As FAR as the Companies Agenda for it...... LV-223 is the JACKPOT! and Planet 4 to a Degree.... if you can get the Engineer Tech and Re-Engineer it, you could maybe come up with Weapons that would CUT THROUGH the Xenomorphs like a Hot Knife through Butter

And so YES the Technology Era of the Alien Franchise say between 2100-2200 would be more Ideal to Pursue... 

@MonsterZero

Sounds Interesting..... and also we have to BARE in Mind that David is a Sentient Soul, he has Ambition, Desires......  Walter is but a SHELL just as  David 1-8 was prior.

so the Character of David can LIVE-ON past the Body of Micheal Fassbender ;)

when we get to the TIME-LINE of Alien Resurrection we have CALL who is a AUTON a Synthetic who was Created by Synthetics..... could a AWOKEN Synthetic Soul like our David had Created them? (Autons).

The Aftermath of Alien R is Interesting as we see the Earth is in like RUIN as if some WAR has been going on..... it seems this WORLD has NOT been just Fought over by Mankind.... but you have Synthetics and Autons into the Mix.... and so this makes USM wanting the Xenomorph as a Weapon Interesting... because then the Xenomorph maybe could CHANGE the TIDE of Conflict on Earth.

so Mankind can Reclaim it back.............but what if our Creators then Return?

"It seems nobody in the entertainment industry has the guts to push forward in movie franchise"

Well it COSTS $$$$ to make a Movie and so they have to be Careful and think what would SELL/MAKE Money.  The AVP Franchise on Screen had made a bit of a Mockery of the Xenomorph but this is a ALTERNATIVE CANON.

Prometheus was a Attempt to TRY something Different but then when you are Dealing with any kind of ORIGINS you do RUN the RISK that its NOT going to be what every FAN would Expect/Want.  It lacked some things to Appease some Fans.

Alien Covenant was a attempt to Appease some Fans and GIVE the Answers but then it Basically threw a LOT of the Potential of Prometheus out of the Window, and the Revelation of the Xenomorph Origin was Bound to NOT settle WELL with a Majority of the Fans...... it also showed that you can HYPE the Xenomorph and HAVE the Xenomorph and STILL your NOT going to be Guaranteed a Good Return.

Blomkamp and Hill/Giler seemed to come with IDEAS that had Ripley as they LIKELY had Felt you NEED to have Ripley + Xenomorphs to make a Successful ALIEN Movie......

I think that YES you would have to have the Xenomorph but you can Change it about a BIT but then its HOW MUCH of a Change before Fans think you have RUINED the Beast?

The Problem does come down to MONEY.... and Especially with DISNEY as they do-not like to see things make a LOSS...

With Novels its Easier if you have a Good Story as with a Novel you can give more Details and your NOT at the Ransom of Cast Members Schedules and more so a RUNNING TIME.

With Graphic Novels/Comics again you can Create Visual Effects that are FAR CHEAPER than to Replicate them into a LIVE ACTION MOVIE.

Video Games can be Expensive but the Player is Immersed into the Character/Plot as you are PART of the Action....

A Good Example is ALIEN: ISOLATION however..... if say No-One had Played the Game and you Basically Recorded Someone play the Game all the WAY through to the END and then Showed that on the Big Screen it would maybe NOT draw in the Money to make a Profit.

No Matter what ALIEN Movie they make then your LIKELY to NOT go and Please everyone, but it comes down to HOW MUCH can you make back?

The ALIEN Franchise is ONE Good Movie away from getting back to where it Belongs but its also ONE Bad Movie away from being kinda KILLED OFF.  There is a RISK of can you make another ALIEN/ALIENS as far as Success or could we get a Alien R or WORSE.... a AVPR kind of Result.

It really depends on WHAT it is that DISNEY are willing to Risk and i would Suspect they be more OPEN to say Bringing Back Ripley than to go with some Ideas that Ridley Scott had prior to ALIEN Covenant.

My Alien V Would attempt to keep everything canon.

David 8 would be found on Mars 120 years after he was delivered there. Synthetics were basically outlawed by this time...Taken offline. So a holding cell for the million or so synthetics is located on Mars.

The United-Marines are busy dealing with the Sleepers ( Engineers...but only the crew of the Prometheus called them that ) Sleepers lay claim to ALL planets. Humans think this is problem.

Its like i have said i would NOT have been a Fan of doing any kind of ALIEN V that would ESSENTIALLY make Alien 3 and Alien R become removed from Canon.

If they wanted to go with another Ripley Movie then i would rather see a Continuation of Alien Resurrection.

But then its a Case of you could make another ALIEN Movie that is SET after the Events of ALIEN R that would not have to Connect to Ripley 8 or anything that Happened in ALIEN R as they could Discover another Location in the Galaxy where there are Xenomorphs.

The Comics and Video Games etc have a Expanded Universe that is more VAST than we have seen in the Movie Franchise.  I dont think you would Contradict the Franchise much if you had a New Adventure that was SET say after 2180.

You would have to Conclude (but then maybe leave it Mystery) to WHY would USM go and Resort to trying to CLONE our Ripley to Obtain a Xenomorph.

If anyone has a different opinion on what the era names just leave a comment

why can't we stick with a single tech era, peripherally the 2180-2190's. I would rather a more familiar ALIEN universe rather than reinventing the ALIEN  Universe by placing it further into the future.

Edit: You know what I'll make a post about tech era.

I'd start Alien V with:

Scene 1:

A synthetic morgue on Mars the year is 2550.

Two humans are strolling through the morgue, they stop in front of a body drawer...They slide the diener out and unzip the neoprene.

Tall man "That him?"

Short man  "Yes"

Camera shows a very pale and lifeless David 8.

Tall man hands short man a data chip.

Tall man "Get him loaded"

David is wheeled out on a gurney, the tall man follows behind.

It seems nobody in the entertainment industry has the guts to push forward in movie franchise. Its either prequels or recycling ideas already present in their respected franchises for sequels. AVP started this prequel original sin for ALIEN

I think the original sin of Alien being about Ripley started with Alien Resurrection. They could have focused on characters beyond Ripley since she died in Alien 3 but nope, Joss Weadon wanted to bring dead characters (originally he wanted Newt, but Fox wanted Ripley) back to life for a new instead of making new ones.

I've been noticing an interesting trait of the ALIEN-verse, the series has a hard time building out its tech eras since every movie or two time skips further in the future or the past.

We have the Present Day era for non-canon material like the Predator and AVP series

We have the early FTL era/Discovery Era, Prometheus

The Colonial era, Alien Covenant

The Space Trade era, Alien

The Colonial Wars era, Aliens and Alien 3

The Post-Corporate era, Alien Resurrection

We Basically had TWO kind of ALIEN V ideas that were at Various Stages, the Blomkamp Ones and the David Giler/Walter Hill Version, and BOTH seemed to be something of a RUN OUT OF IDEAS.... well seem to think you HAVE to have Ripley back to have any ALIEN MOVIE become a Success.

I know that there were Ideas to make a ALIEN V back in late 90's but FOX had Decided to go for a AVP Spin Off instead.  After AVPR had Bombed a bit... then FOX had Decided to NOT go and touch the Franchise until the Prequel ideas from 2009.

There WAS and still IS the Potential to do a ALIEN Story that does-not have to being Ripley back and Effect any of the other Movies as FAR as Conflicts or Canon etc.

Will a ALIEN V ever see the Light of  Day (as in a 5th ALIEN Installment) who knows i think a LOT would depend on what the TV Series shows and HOW the TV Show does/performs.

"How Alien:Covenant  was able to reach production"

I think that Alien Covenant was a Product of the Reaction to Blomkamps Alien V there was a LOT of Hype about that Idea, and it seemed to PUSH those at FOX to think that you have to have the Xenomorph in a ALIEN Franchise and so its LIKELY this had Contributed to the Prometheus Sequel that was to STEER AWAY from ALIEN to then become something that would STEER TOWARDS the First Movie.

And with that Direction you are going to FACE some Problems and Sacrifices because your going from the Year 2094-2122 were within that less than 28 Years you are going to MAKE a Series of Movies that will in Chronological Terms the Xenomorph Origins.  To Chronologically show us the Event of the Derelict/Space Jockey in the Time-Line to come (after 2094) was a MISTAKE.

To be Fair they was having TROUBLE with a Story/Plot even prior to that, as to have  a Movie where Dr Shaw and her Robot Companion would arrive on a World with Engineers who are Technologically Advanced and Physically more Powerful and a Race who are WANTED to see Humans Destroyed...

Well thats a Tricky Situation right there.... we saw HOW LONG that Peter Weyland and Co had Lasted when the Engineer had Awoken.... what would be the Result with just ONE HUMAN and a Robot vs...... 100, 500, 10000 or Tens of Thousands of Engineers?

The other Problem coming from can you have a Movie about a Single Human and their Robot Sidekick and some Angry Engineers...... would you NEED to have more Humans and HOW do you do that....... they seem to think from EARTH!

This just shows that the Writers could not take into Account the Space Gardeners/Creators Plot and think BEYOND our Earth.

Alien Covenant had a LOT of Plot Points to get through A-Z to really do Justice within the Run-Time so a LOT of Sacrifices were made and the Pacing become too Fast Once we saw Oram go off to look for Rosenthal

The only information I could find was that of H. R. Gigers other Alien design - Species. There was a rape scene in that film with the Species' barbed tail going in and out of the main protagonists mouth. Oral rape. However, I think Alien has been left with alot of ambiguity. More information is coming out all the time, now we know Lambert was a Trans person. Another theory could be the alien was unsure how to handle this person so was inquisitive? Just like how the Alien was inquisitive to some AIs. Like Call in Resurrection.

Having thought about it some more, I don’t believe the Alien would be prioritising experimentation, when it has been described as having vast amounts of intellect. It must have known the remainder crew were trying to leave so it’s priority would be to feed and/or prepare the food sauce. 

I'm going to side with Disney on this one. Franchise needs a timeout....A regroup. It needs to find a star actor and director. A James Gunn type or at least a hot new young director / actor (for better or worse ) to give their take.

How Alien:Covenant  was able to reach production, shows a lack of vision ( even though I loved it )...I think the casual fan could come up with a better idea.

I cant seem to get the Podcast to work but thats because my Computer and OS are 15 Years Old ;)

Regarding the Queen and Egg Morph i think you can have it where the Egg Morph is what would Produce a Queen this would make Perfect Sense to WHY the Xenomorph in ALIEN had NOT gone and tried to Egg Morph/Cocoon others (Lambert and Parker).

Ridley Scott had indicated the Xenomorph on the Narcissus was going there to DIE as it had Accomplished what it was meant to do.  IF this was so the Egg Morph would Produce a Queen then that would make Sense....

But as the Egg Morph Scene was NOT part of the Theatrical Release then those Comments by Ridley Scott (Xenomorph was looking for a Place to Die) would NOT be Applicable.

To be Fair his Original Story was to NOT have Ripley in it at all.....

I think the Story had some Potential, there seemed some rather SILLY IDEAS in it (Ripley in a Queen Bio-suit) but i think its a STORY that could have been Re-Worked for a ALIEN V just does-not have to be about Ripley.

I think with the Disney take over and the Disappointment of Alien Covenant i think Disney were RELUCTANT to Continue with the Franchise.  And so its also UNLIKELY that we will see a Continuation of the Prequels.

We have the TV Series to come in 2023 and its a Case of will this become Canon to the Movies?  Or will it be kind of a Alternative Take on the ALIEN SAGA?

" Idea seemed destined for a one off graphic novel"

Certainly i think that could have Worked as a Comic Series.  Like i think a Continuation of Alien Covenant could maybe got a Novel Treatment instead.

Disney are going to just have to FIGURE OUT as to WHAT and WHERE to take the Franchise in the Future i think they may Gauge the Reaction to the TV Series to Assess if the Franchise is Viable on the Small and Large Screen.