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"I knew Marvel would screw this up"

I don't know about that...the comic seems very Alien to me....there isn't a sign of Captain America or Rocket Racoon blasting xeno's ( yet ).

I think we have no idea how bad this can go.

I'd much rather they stick to basics and not bring in superheroes and toss the xeno out with the bath water.

As for the original question, something I learned recently which is clearly an unambiguous fact is that Lambert is transgender! Read the wall screen notes carefully in Ripley’s court martial and you will find that she was gender reassigned at birth. Therein lies a mystery, though: why?

It’s not the same ship. It’s not even the same world. The cartridges in Prometheus are weapons of mass destruction. The eggs in Alien are generally believed to be laid by a Queen, although eggs may also be created through bodily transformation of an infected host.

Giger must be spinning in his grave. 

Question:

Why did the cartidges look like cartidges in Prometheus, but looked liked egg sacs in Alien? Isn't it the same ship? And in Alien the crew sees an Engineer in the saddle of the alien ship, but dead from a hole in his chest. But in Prometheus, that Engineer was supposedly the only live one and he escaped the crash of his ship (which I assume is the one discovered in Alien years later) and he was killed by the alien birthed by the crew member in their ship. No?

Big oof.

I quite like the idea of the self-destructing alien. That could be nasty.

tbh, idk what is your problem? Don't want - don't play. The game looks like a clear fun.

Of course, games like Alien: Isolation are also good, but sometimes just want to shoot and relax.

Unless I go from rags to riches in one and half months, I can't dream of it.

The costume expected to reach a “conservative” high bid of $60,000.

 Let's be honest......we would all still wear it.

An actual translucent prototype Big Chap costume created by late Giger himself.

Rick from Pawn stars:

"50 bucks is the best I can do, and I'm taking a huge risk here."

Another bug-hunt game. The kids of today get to know the Alien from Marvel and such games. Some of them would eventually watch Aliens. But kids, don't be fooled by the lame representations of the Alien from the above mentioned game and comics. They sell you damaged goods. The Alien is nothing like that.

Ash: You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? The perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.
Lambert: ... You admire it.
Ash: ... I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.
Parker: Look, I am, I've heard enough of this, and I'm asking you to pull the plug.
[Ripley moves to turn Ash off, but he interrupts]
Ash: Last words.
Ripley: What?
Ash: I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.

It looks kind of broken!

Must have been treated with disrespect like in an Aliens style bug hunt.

The Burster looks like a xenomorph version of a freaking Zerg Baneling!

I knew Marvel would screw this up

I think Marvel missed another opportunity to start anew. They could have hinted to what's in the store already without using the same android, at least. This is so absolutely lame. Although I like Lance Henriksen, Bishop was pretty dull as a character, I actually think his best performance was in Alien3. Why bring him back? Because Marvel can only create popcorn, with superficial and predictable stories, so you get nothing more, but at least it is nicely packed, glimmering and glossy, with colorful ribbons around it.

Alien is not in good hands now.

Saying that bringing back a dead human character is just like bringing back Bishop is beyond asinine.

This is effectively a relaunch with a new publisher and they'll be trying to attract new readers.  You go with what's familiar - Aliens, marines etc.  Bishop ties into that.  He's a machine - a model that works with marine units.  It makes perfect sense. Comparing him to a dead human is nonsense.

Dark Horse did the same thing by having their first series revolve around Hicks and Newt.

And how is horn-lady not "something new"?

Superalien

You're right that they should try new characters, a comic book could be a place for that. If you see that something worked in the past then there's a risk to get stuck in that. After a while it gets boring so it's time to move on. Bishop was an android, you could get new android characters that are different in their personality. What about an android that has both sides of Bishop and David? Not sure what the purpose of an android like that would be but its something different but it must make sense so maybe that's a bad idea unless it’s an android made by other androids in a future where androids have become so advanced so they rebel against humans. They use an android that humans feel comfortable with that infiltrates human organizations. Maybe it's too much like Terminator.

They should try new monsters, at least that is something that the prequels did right. You are right that they don't need Xenos and a hive, time for something new. Aliens and Alien Resurrection did that, time for something else.

I like the Runner and the Drone, the rest look like they are made for a disco or that you have drowned it in ketchup and that it is ready to be eaten. The runner is something that I have a difficult time to take seriously.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/370913719301785839/

The page where I found the picture.

BD: Yeah but if they answer that then it got to make sense and also bring us to a higher mystery that is interesting, and I am not sure if they would be able to do so keeping in mind how poorly the prequels have handled things this far. Maybe it is for the best that the alien-fandom in lack of a better word will continue to discuss that because it's fun. The thing is that even though it’s not as interesting as the derelict for example it still gives us something to discuss and that is something that is a positive thing if you ask me.

BD

“So maybe the Franchise has to STICK to its BASICS..”

The problem with that is like I wrote to SuperAlien that you get the 25th adventure of Bishop, you simply repeat the same thing too many times. Some might say that he is a legendary character and that Aliens was successful, but it's not fun to repeat the same thing again and again because you might take away what was special when they first introduced the character. I would react in the same way if they have Bishop in a future alien-movie if we will get one even if you explain it with that Bishop isn't a person but a series of androids like you could have David 8, David 9, and so on.

Speaking of basic, Daniels could be an example. To me she was too much like Ripley but with less personality. Unfortunately Shaw was annoying but that's not to say that you should rely the personality of a tried character, it means that you should do a better one. Other movies have gotten their characters right but without the Ripley thing so the Alien-franchise could do that also. What about a character that is shy, that is in the background that has to step up not because he or she is a strong character but because he or she has to forced by circumstances and we don't expect that from the character so when that happens we are like “wow! I didn't expect that”. To me that would be great instead of having another Ripley-person. Time to move on from legendary characters no matter how successful they were.

Another thing is to have a character that we like but that isn't too much of the focus. You focus more on team-dynamics. Most movies in the franchise has had a distinct main-character, what if that was less the case in a future movie. Would that work? Not sure but it’s an idea that they could try.

You mention to copy those things, I don't think that needs to be the case. If they do it in smart ways then I don't think that they necessarily need to be accused of doing that. As long as they are good movies that also have their own things even if they try to throw in things from other movies it might work. You need to be able to use new things while also find what makes alien into alien.

S.M

Because he's a character that we have seen before. I would react in the same way if they brought back Ripley, Vasques, or even Dillon which is an interesting character by the way. Even if he's was an android he was acted as if he was a human although a very human-ish synthetic. Stop recycling things and do something new.

An APC isn't something that is programmed to remind of a human or that can do human things. Your idea works at a surface level but when you think about it a bit more it doesn't. Even machines can be programmed to perform different tasks. An APC isn't something that is programmed to remind of a human or that can do human things, androids in the alien-franchise do.

How is bringing Bishop back a problem?  He's a machine.  One of a particular model.  That sounds like saying 'bringing back an APC is silly because it was blown up in Aliens'.

Everything about this Marvel Alien seems silly, from what I've seen so far. To bring back Bishop is an even worse idea than to bring back Ripley. Not to mention the cat. For some reason it's a black cat. And then there are too many xenomorphs and a nest like in Aliens. And a red paint writing on a window: Alien inside. Inside whom?

I'm curious about one thing only in these comics: what's the name of the cat?

I think that's a bold idea, to get xenomorphs to Iran. The xenomorphs would feel good in the desert, the marines were there before.

I'm interested in the book, it seems well written and, who knows, it could turn into a good film. The sequel to the prequels seems dead anyway. Unfortunately.

I know Ridley Scott likes the desert.

"There is nothing in the desert and no man needs nothing."

Finally something worthy in the Alienverse 

The prequels were good. Alien Covenant is the most similar movie to Alien 1979. You take a big risk when you go down the  micro biological experiment way and you try to explain the unexplainable. I would haver prefered to watch engineers using xenomorphs as a weapon, that already exist on their homeworld. You didn't need to explain the a acid blood . xeno Mutations could occur, depending of the facehugged species. Like Prometheus and alien covenant, you watch um Alien Resurrection lots of experiments to recreate xenomorph soldiers and xeno Queens, and something GOES wrong. There's a moral to the story That everyone knows: when you play God, you cause Destruction and probably your own demise. A circus of horrors full of gruesome is not profitable.

The prequels were good. Alien Covenant is the most similar movie to Alien 1979. You take a big risk when you go down the  micro biological experiment way and you try to explain the unexplainable. I would haver prefered to watch engineers using xenomorphs as a weapon, that already exist on their homeworld. You didn't need to explain the a acid blood . xeno Mutations could occur, depending of the facehugged species. Like Prometheus and alien covenant, you watch um Alien Resurrection lots of experiments to recreate xenomorph soldiers and xeno Queens, and something GOES wrong. There's a moral to the story That everyone knows: when you play God, you cause Destruction and probably your own demise. A circus of horrors full of gruesome is not profitable.

I think the SHIP has Sailed as far as the Story of David and Dr Shaw... i think that there is a STORY to be TOLD but i would NOT expect it to Conflict the OUTCOME that we saw in Alien Covenant.

I would ASSUME its likely that David has the Intention of Destroying the GODs... so that he can then Inherit their Knowledge and know that HE and Dr Shaw would be Guaranteed Safety as WHO KNOWS what the Engineers would have done them.

So i Suspect that David had given Dr Shaw some FAKE STORY about what Happened and that Planet 4 is NOT SAFE as of Yet (Contaminated)

After Weeks, Months of being Barricaded away in the Juggernaught while David finds Food and Water, i can assume she would SUSPECT something is UP/WRONG... for WHY is he gone for Days.... and HOW can he bring Food/Drink if the Planet is Contaminated....

So she maybe Sneaks Out one day and Discovers she can Breathe, and sees the Dead Engineers (which David would have Told About but maybe said they was going to ATTACK) then she Stumbles on his Workshop his Experiments, maybe some Captured Emaciated Females and Children and then David WALKS IN on her.....

Tries to say he is doing all of this for HER so he can Solve how she can have Children.. and so they can START a NEW EDEN..

Dr Shaw likely Rejects and things TURN SOUR!

So YES there could be  STORY between when the Juggernaught had Arrived at Planet 4 to the Point that Dr Shaw had taken her Last Breath and what was then done TO HER.

As i said with the Comic Topic....

The Franchise always has a Market for Comics, Games and Toys/Merchandise.  And Games can give us a bit of FUN if they are done RIGHT.

I think some may want more of a Alien Isolation of other Survival Horror Type Environment... and i think something like that would be GREAT...

But i think that Action Team Based Shooters do Appeal.. and so this could be to the ALIEN FRANCHISE like what the BATTLEFRONT Series was to Star Wars.

@Thoughts_Dreams

This may just be something we NEVER get answers to, but with Games and Comics we may get more Chance of a Explanation than we would on Screen (TV/Movie)

As YES there was a Atheistic Connection between the Space Jockey, Derelict and Xenomorph... with the Engineers we see the Connection still... but seems the Technology is LESS ORGANIC and yet the Beasts are more ORGANIC... its NOT as much a Amalgamation as we saw in ALIEN. (HR Giger).

So there still has to be some Common Connection.... just a case of WHAT/HOW and IF we ever will get any Answers.

To be fair this was to be Expected as Comics are more Popcorn Action anyway... and while it may NOT give us any Deep Story or Back Ground especially those looking to get more Insight into the Engineers... this kind of Popcorn Action has a Market and a Viable and Profitable one for DISNEY.

There was some Original ish Ideas and NEW Directions with the Prequels but a LOT of that stuff just NEVER went down to well and to Further Explore such Directions could be something that SIMPLY would NOT make as Much Money as say seeing a Predator Rock up on a Engineer Installation and go Hunting! etc.

I think that YES as you say Thoughts_Dreams the PLOT of the Prequels could have OPENED UP to many Worlds, Species and Conflicts.. i think this is what Ridley Scott had in Mind... but we would SPLINTER OFF to a Different Direction  that would STEER from the Xenomorph which some Purist may FEEL is NOT what we should be doing.

so maybe trying to make our own Star Trek/Star Wars out of the ALIEN Franchise would be something thats a RISK, that you would then be Compared to TRYING to COPY those Franchises and the Chance of Success could be FAR outweighed by the Chance of Disappointment.

So maybe the Franchise has to STICK to its BASICS..

I think ONCE the Franchise has Ran its NEW COURSE and maybe Cooked the Goose a bit more... maybe then Disney could look at WHAT ELSE they could Explore... but i Suspect they would look to RETCON the Space Jockey.

But for NOW then Disney has to look at what is more Marketable to Fans and Especially the YOUNGSTERS and those who Enjoyed the OLD Comic Era of 90s when they was Younger.

What I wonder is if there is a connection between the Xenos, the Engineers, and the SJ. If you look at the rib cage of the Xenos and the SJ they seem to be similar in look.

Compare those to the chest of the Xeno. I don't say that those are necessarily ties but there could be connections, even though just loosely. These are just thoughts, there might just be a coincidence which means that wasn't the intention.

Can you be more specific? Anything but seems to be a very broad answer. Can you give some example, so I can understand what you would like to see? Using a lot of familiar things isn't the way to go, I agree with that. Something with the Engineers could be interesting or even better introduce new things.

Anything but this.

I'm on the fence, it reminds me a bit of Colonial Marines, which we know was a disaster. But, I'll remain hopeful and optimistic, just need to keep my expectations in check. Would have preferred more of a horror angle though instead of an action-oriented shooter.

Depuis tout petit chacun de nous à certainement eu un personnage des super-héros favoris. Notre enfance a été bercée par ces différents personnages, qui nous ont fait rêver, que ce soit dans les films tout comme dans les bandes comics.

Les figurines n’étant pas seulement des jouets comics pour enfants, même les plus matures et les adultes y sont concernées.
Nousconstatons donc la très grande communauté des fans qui seraient intéressés par ces figurines représentant nos personnages favoris, qui nous auraient marqué d’une manière ou d’une autre.

Your complaint seems to be about relying too much on past things, right? I don't have any dislike against Aliens but I think that it's time to move on. The prequels tried new things but were not successful, but that isn't to say that trying something new in itself is bad.

What would you have liked them to do for you to be interested? I ask this as a person that isn't into expanded universe type things. We all have our likes and dislikes.

I would like to see new species, new worlds, and that, like Star Trek, Star Wars, and The Lord of the Rings tried and why not? Comics can be used for this before you try to throw it into movies. Try to throw other things into it, as long as the central theme and some of the related monsters are there.

Maybe try something with the engineers? Fire and Stone tried this so it can be done. They can try to expand on the engineers and introduce other civilizations that might be in competition with them over something.

Looking at the colors I would say that I don't like that light-blue thing. Keep it in the dark, it works best that way. If that's a sign of how they will do it in the future then they need to go back to the drawing-board. Keep the monsters in the dark, that goes for movies also. We'll see about the rest.

I'm really looking forward to it!

Alien will never be cooked.