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Thanks, dk.

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9170108/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

Nice body

Strange Creature, from Mother´s Lab.

Seems like it may be tough to access for many fans unless they have HBOmax. Fortunately, HULU users can piggyback and add to their accounts. I cannot find out the episode lengths though. I am guessing 45 minutes or so each? I also don't know the interval episodes will air- weekly, etc.

MAN ALIVE? 

https://youtu.be/ojHRoKzQwfE

... The perfect mother. 

https://youtu.be/xFP2wFHWqfM

It seems Mother arrived on a planet where the children were already living in a sort of stone age conditions. We see a ship arrived, the silhouette of Mother getting out and a little girl was down there.

The cave painting seems to symbolize a rocket that left a planet, maybe Earth.

It seems the war that destroyed Earth was between androids and humans?

For sure Ridley Scott used here many of the ideas he had for the sequel to Alien Covenant.

That creature from the roof moves like the xenomorph from Alien Covenant. What is that?

Good night, @BigDave. I think androids like mother had a big part in the destruction of earth. Mother seems to be very emotionally unstable and that, in an android, is always a big problem for humans. Rule number one: never program an Android with emotions, he/she will resent the creators sooner or later. I have no doubt that Ridley Scott took parts of the script, story boards, ship models and planet landscape drawings from Alien Awakening. He started to film, i believe, in 2018, and he ended the production of the 10 episodes (i don't know the time lenght per episode)  in november 2019. It wasn't possible to do this, without having done background work, which represented an advanced stage of development in the making of the TV show.

Adapting the ideas of the alien covenant sequel to the series, instead of a fight between engineers and humans, you have a fight between two human factions separated by religion. The creature is replaced by a creature that pre-existed in the planet, and the role of the androids is identical to the role of David and maybe Walter. The experiments with humans set in David's lab are replaced by mother's experiment, where she tries to create a society with humans, from the scratch, making of herself a God, or, a prophet of her imagined religion. Maybe the idea of this experiment is from mother, maybe it is from her creator, i don't know. 

I'm in love with my madness, @BigDave. 

It may not be a focus of the series, but the trailer made a point of showing skeletal remains of large creatures with pointy teeth.

People tend to think of wolves as bad and dangerous, which the trailer illustrates and yes, wolves are badass. But they are also very intelligent tight knit family oriented creatures as well. Perhaps the title alludes to that?

"And what about that weird "growl?" at 1:30- WTF?"

Mother seems to be Intact here.... not Damaged, she seems to be Communicating with something maybe that LURKS in the Depths of that SINK HOLE?

From 1:06 to 1:11 you can make out Similar Sounds to what the Neomorph made......  Could the Mother had Created something else thats Stored in that HOLE?

A Wolf to use against the Flock of Lambs should they get OUT of Control or Concern Mother of their Behavior?

The Androids we see below also seem to have WHITE Blood if you would just like in the ALIEN Franchise... then it seems maybe NOT.

Also we have that Creature in the Center.... maybe this is a Close Up of what looked like the Space Jockey at 1:06

Who Created this Horror?  Who Disabled those Robots?

But INDEED we cant 100% Guess what is going on from a Trailer as sometimes they can Mislead on Purpose.

It Certainly is a TV Series i would be willing to GIVE a Chance.... just a case of seeing HOW to get HBO in the UK

That is a lot to unpack. I would start with this: "What could be the LIMITS of Evolution of Technology and Genetics with Mankind in 100's or Thousands of Years time, would PLAYING GOD.. be a Hubris?  Or a Savior."

I would think it would ultimately be an exercise in hubris. If someone achieved "godhood" while being mortal, it wouldn't make much sense to allow evolution to surpass that "god"- lest he/she loses power. This comes from a POV that someone like Weyland is ultimately self serving and just wants to be in control. 

The cave painting looks straight out of Prometheus. But it is a trailer. It's hard to say if that is from Earth or the planet the trailer depicts. Is the "ship" leaving a planet or transmitting to it?

The "big bad wolf being her" could be misdirection. If the android is the baddie, they just gave way too much away in a trailer- sort of how Prometheus did.

And what about that weird "growl?" at 1:30- WTF?

At 1:06 it does seem that almost Neomorph like Skeletal being does look like the Space Jockey ;)

Looking at it again... the Raised by Wolves seems to come across to me more like the WOLF in Sheep's Clothing... as in Mother is a BEING that is Disguising Itself to be a Human looking Android...

Seems on Second Inspection she with Father have Helped some Older Humans to Build a Colony of Sorts and then Once a Infrastructure is in Place to Raise the Young and Embryos... i suspect the Adults are KILLED!

The Children are GIVEN a History Lesson that is FALSE.

This is Pretty Much what i Interpreted that AC2 could be like, which i made a Few Topics Last Year on.  As i felt in Part this is Pretty Much what David would do as he Charades around to the colonist as Walter (Wolf in Sheep's Clothing) Once the Colony is Established enough, then he KILLS the Adults (some he saves for Experiments) and then he Raises the Young, and Embryos.. giving them his HISTORY of their Origins which are FALSE.

This Cave Painting is Interesting..... wonder what it means?

@setaverde

Thanks for the Trailer.

This does seem in Part to have some Similarities to HOW i Interpreted where RS would take Alien Covenant 2.

It seems at 0:23 that we have Children Grown from Tanks/Containers as if they are GROWN from Embryos.

It appears at 0:10 some of the Children have a Uniform, with the same Star Emblem as the Incoming Adult Humans latter.

I Suspect that these A.I may have been Tasked with being Part of a New Colonization Mission as the Earth has suffered a Catastrophe.....  I wonder if the Ship had just Androids and Embryos?  Did it have some Children? Did it have some Adults... but the Androids had KILLED all the Older Children and Adults.

So when they SET DOWN on this New World the Androids could RAISE the Younger Children and Embryos in a way they Androids would feel would be without the VICES and EVILS of Mankind... well the THINGS that cause Conflict and Greed and so maybe the Androids believe they see the Cause of Conflict being Mankind but that Humans can be Saved if they are RAISED in a Different way?

Or it could also look like the World had some Humans already on the Planet (First Colony) then the Androids arrive with more Children?

Then we have a Incoming Group of Humans who appear to be Antagonist.... Attacking the Androids and trying to TAKE AWAY the Children.....

Revelation then seems to indicate that Actually the Androids have Hijacked a Ship of Children/Embryos to Raise for its own Agenda......

Towards the End of that Trailer.... it appears we see a Ship with Destroyed Androids on it... like the Working Joe Class from Alien Isolation.   Where these the Original Androids who were Tasked with being part of the Colonization Mission?

By the End it seems to indicate that Mother.. or the same Advanced A.I that she is, could be a Step in Advancing A.I too FAR by Mankind that resulted in a Sub-Creation with Godlike Power... that Destroyed the Earth...

And has then gone to where Mankind are trying to SET-UP a New Eden.. to then Infiltrate that and to RAISE those Surviving Children to what ever HISTORY that these Super A.I beings wish to Teach... maybe with Intentions to even attempt to Declare themselves as GODS?

It seems Interesting... cant really say it will be Good or Bad at the Moment... 

It does make me wonder if some of it has BORROWED from what RS may have intended with Alien Covenant 2?

Thoughts_Dreams Great points. If you haven't watched the video, its introduction basically asks the question you brought up. The story itself is sort of bizarre and seems like the random things we can experience in dreams.

Certainly Agree with that.... there would be Limitations to what a A.I can do, but that Depends on HOW much the A.I can Replicate a Human as far as Thoughts, Dreams,  Feelings and Ambition and Creativity.

But if we EVER can create a A.I that can Mimic a Emotional Human Being to such a LEVEL.... then having this A.I Create Stories and Art and to Worry about that... WOULD BE THE LEAST to Worry about ;)

BlackAnt

"Incredible Art has always been as much about conveying beauty, tragedy, love, war, and all the things of the human condition..."

This, it tells us about the human condition in some way. I haven't seen those other movies that Scott has made with the exception for Alien when you mention the relation between humans and androids and I honestly don't care about those movies. You mention plastic sets and so on but to me it is worse than that, I am not interested in movies or TV-series where androids are allowed to take over the whole story. Bishop and Ash had parts of the movies but they were not allowed to be like 50% of it all, Raised By Wolves story-wise seems different in that aspect but for the worse.

You mention trailers, usually they don't give away too much so you got to check out the main thing so to speak. I like how you put the GIF's into this.

"Like I said I want real things not this derivative attention deficit jump cut shiny nonsense."

A problem is that if you try to make it too perfect then it gets to a point when it almost looks artificial. There are different ways to shoot movies but when you try to make it look too perfect you lose the realism that is needed in alien-movies. You could say the same thing about Prometheus I guess but I could buy that it was on another planet but that is how it comes off to me. Maybe they are going for different looks in movies and TV-series so that might explain some of it. It might depend a lot on what kind of equipment that they use when they shoot it.

You mention that you want to see something new, I am all for series and movies that try to tell us something about how different cultures try to coexist and try to solve human differences and this could be explored in different ways. What I am totally against is that they give the androids these huge parts because I don't care about that. How humans try to coexist despite cultural differences is interesting, but either get the androids away from the story or reduce their parts because that is when I say F it.

Welcome back, it is more interesting the more people that join the discussions. That seems to be some tough shit to deal with. Having interesting characters is a must to me, try to avoid the mistake that they made with AC and P where most of the characters were crap.

The thing is, a story written by a human can be analyzed to understand how the author thinks but a story by an AI isn't like that. A story written by technology might be interesting but it is not organic (it is artificial, Artificial Intelligence). When you write you use your imagination and that can be quite fun, there are other things to think about rather than what we just see on paper when we see something that's written.

Leto

Maybe I wasn't clear but when I wrote robots I really meant androids.

"I am more than sure that if there were no androids in Prometheus and Covenant - human characters would still be written as they were. It looks like it was a plot angle..."

Both a focus on androids and to have lame human characters is bad. When you combine those two there's a disaster, to me at least. A plot angle or not, when the human characters don't work then the movie doesn't, to me at least.

I'm so happy and excited. I believe Ridley did this show for us, to have some sort of closure about the prequels, in a philosophical way. 

Peter Weyland created David and David created the protomorph. 

Humans created AI persons and they created Mother. 

Both, protomorph and mother, are weapons to be mass produced in order to wipe out the human race, as we know it, from the face of the Universe. 

AI creations will create equal AIs that will destroy us. 

You beat me by about 5 seconds! Yep, might have to get HBO just long enough to watch.

OFFICIAL TRAILER:

https://youtu.be/nAg6RTQEfeM

Amazing. 

"Gather round, children. "

The episodes of the series include:

• "Faces", written by Karen Campbell
• "Infected Memory", written by: Heather Bellson
• "Lost Paradise", written by: Donald Joh
• "Mass", written by: Sinead Daly
• "Nature's Course", written by: Aaron Guzikowski
• "Pentagram", written by: Aaron Guzikowski
• "Raised by Wolves", written by: Aaron Guzikowski
• "The Beginning", written by: Aaron Guzikowski
• "Umbilical", written by: Aaron Guzikowski
• "Virtual Faith", written by: Aaron Guzikowski

I sure hope these androids have toilet trained these human kids!!!

I don't want to see this happen on this new show!!!!

 Here is the new trailer that I saw.....very interesting!

Looking at the New Teaser...

It seems to imply a Similar Reason for the Covenant Mission to make a New Start away from the Problems on Earth.... in the Teaser it indicates the World as we know it has Ended... so maybe like the Ending of Alien Resurrection

Looking at what is said about RBW in that last Piece of information... it kind of indicates that a Colony is already on this World and the Androids with Children either Arrive latter or are Part of this Colony that has either having or had Problems and so the Androids take the Children away to RAISE them in a way to AVOID the Knowledge/Conflicts that affected Mankind.

However looking at the Trailers i get the Impression that the Androids/Children are alone and the other Humans are incoming/crash?

But it could be that something ELSE is what Crashes...  Time will Tell.

I Originally saw this as being some Androids to go and Raise Children on a NEW World where they could be Taught things they NEED to Survive and NOT be influenced and Taught the things that cause Conflict in Mankind.  But then other Humans Arrive who then could Influence those Children and so the things that cause Conflict could arise again.

Certainly by a Negative i mean it would be a Shame that in Future a Higher % of Music, Books and Art etc came from A.I and so Humans just become a Race that rely on what A.I Creates and so we loose our Creativity or Input.

Imagine a Synthetic K-Pop Band that becomes the RAGE and Bigger than the Beatles and this becomes all the RAGE with more Synthetic Musicians

Or if you had Dance Acts, and Magicians as Synthetics that can Perform Moves, Stunts and Tricks that then make Human Acts seem very BASIC...

It could become the END of such kinds of ACT/ART by Humans.  (well a Reduction)

Imagine Synthetic Replicas of the MOST Famous Musicians and Actors...     so that ELVIS is Reborn as he was in his Prime... Multiples of them doing Tours around the World... in TWO/FOUR places at the same Time... look and sound Identical to the real Elvis.

Arnold Schwarzenegger replicas at his Age of his PRIME.. or like Miss Weaver as she was in the 80's

Such a thing could IMPACT the Opportunity given to other aspiring Actors and Artist etc.

But i think we are a LONG WAY of such Concerns becoming a Reality ;)

PS thats NOT to say anything BAD about Arnie and Siggy ;)

Just it give a Excuse for Terminator 7,8,9,10 11 and Alien 6,7,8,9 etc etc

*Special Order 937? How did this come about?

Certainly as i listed that as one MYSTERY from ALIEN, as this Indicates that someone knew something about what to Expect... Quite to what LEVEL of Knowledge is Unknown.

But i always suspected it could not be a Case of from the WARNING BEACON they could have Gathered their was a Specimen/Organism.   With the Prequels it gave more LIGHT to HOW they could know more... especially with the SET-UP from Alien Covenant and so at VERY LEAST the Special Oder 937 would come about as a Response by the Company to the Advent Message that David had sent.

I Certainly dont mind the ANDROIDS... i think its FITS in with ALIEN if we indeed get that A.I is playing a LARGER role than we Expected.

I think the Emphasis on David and more so the Creator of the Xenomorph Arc.... was a Mistake because the Direction of Alien Covenant seemed to REDUCE the likelihood of Exploring the Engineers beyond just seeing more LV-223 types Rock Up at Origae-6  in a BAD MOOD.  But more so that i know the Creator Plot and Emphasis about David would likely PUT OFF a lot of Fans from being interesting in a Continuation of the Prequels... which could see Disney go back to Xenomorphs etc and AVOID the Prequels... and as a Consequence the Potential that the Engineers as Creators and HOW MANY worlds they are involved with... could be something that we MAY NEVER see explored.

BigDave could this have a NEGATIVE effect?

If it has a negative effect, it would probably be our fault. The AI would need a frame of reference to write stories, music or scripts from humans. If people are receptive to what the AI produces, it's tough to say, except that maybe down the road, humans may become less creative if they default to what AI creates for entertainment or literature. It may sound far fetched, but back in the 1960s, watching videos and communicating on small devices ala Star Trek seemed pure fantasy to most people as was shopping from home.

'WE ARE THE GODS NOW!" It seems pretty clear RS is exploring a concept that didn't quite work in the Alien universe- but viewers will likely draw comparisons. 

The idea of being some sort of gods seems different in this series from what I see thus far. The "We are the Gods now" from PW sounded rather arrogant although arguably true. It seems that these androids may very well seem godlike but actually are trying to raise a better world with no power plays, ego, etc. at least initially. Depending how the series goes, maybe the first generation or two may see the androids as godlike, but later generations might twist philosophy and basically rebel or create factions, proving that humans will self destruct without some sort of higher (intelligent) power to save them. Maybe the humans will have to be destroyed.

Call it divine intervention or religion if you want. At any rate, the potential for a great thought provoking sci fi show is looking pretty good. Maybe RS has finally found a great medium to tell his story without taking decades to do it. Bring it on!

Another teaser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1K3yBV32CY

"Raised by Wolves will take place on a mysterious planet – virgin territory to humans – that’s in the early stages of colonization. However, the series will center on a pair of androids who are raising human children on the the burgeoning human home, living amongst colonists who clearly haven’t left their ideological baggage back on Earth, since they are being torn apart by religious differences. Consequently, the androids find themselves existing tenuously in the middle."

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/ridley-scott-hbo-max-raised-by-wolves/

Remembering A.I. in 'Prometheus' and 'Covenant':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z-QCDyL2q4

'WE ARE THE GODS NOW!"

*Special Order 937? How did this come about?

After Ripley finds out about special order 937, Ash starts to tell her: "There is an explanation for this, you know..." Unfortunately Ripley is so distressed about special order 937 that she doesn't wanna hear the goddamn explanation...

But Ash knew about it, so to answer your question, BigDave, I find it normal to give more screen time to the androids.

I like androids, I wouldn't mind to have one myself, but not the flute fingering model :).

And it should have a remote on/off switch, just in case it proves to be too idiosyncratic.

Right on BigDave! You're famous~~~~~~~~!

In the previous post I wanted to acknowledge how difficult it is for people who have speculated for years to simply accept my very clear unofficial vision particularly as the story is told without a genre anchor.

It's worth saying that from the moment I shared my working titles for Chapters in 2018 my mind set changed. It was no longer what does that mean? It was it means that and the only time I was nervous about how far from the intended path I might have strayed was when I sat down to watch "The Making of Prometheus" documentary and found all my key assumptions were correct which I shared from my blog.

But as a final point I did not write the book to second guess the Lindelof/Scott outcome I simply find it fascinating that each time I or friends uncover some potential clue its fascinating to note that I am operating in the same area.

One thing I have never mentioned and neither have any readers their is a relationship between the Michael Green written BR2049 and Furious Gods. The sense of unfolding mystery and the way it resolves is not dissimiliar. I believe the development of Alien Covenant was as much affected by Neil Blomkamp as the decision to hand off the sequel to BR and there was a splitting of ideas at that point. Pure supposition but I can feel the "What is life" journey narrative when I watch BR2049.           

@BigDave

One of the most difficult elements of a conversation about where Prometheus was going is we all look at this in very different ways. We do not start in the same place let alone end up in the same place but there are two broadly different start points:-

1) The literal approach.

2) The philosophical thematic approach. 

The two elements have to find a common language which is not easy. If I can show why I will give three examples of each. 

Literal

i) What is the meaning of the Alien Shape fused into the alter?

ii) Why did the Urns in the Sanctuary leak but the Urns in the downed craft do not? 

iii) What is the weird creature in the Fresco pouring over the Engineer? 

Philosophical

i) You made us why did you want to destroy us?

ii) What is the soul?

iii) If they made us who made them and why?

For me, the first three questions are simply a matter of choice and ensuring the answers support the narrative. So In Part 1

i) I remove the shape and put back the Bowl and place Charlie's "This is just a tomb" where Damon had it in the Paradise script.

ii) The urns leak in the sanctuary as part of a broader warning.

iii) I build on the Fresco and turn it into one of many Buddist Story Boards which fits with Steve Messing's remarks about the Creature in the Mural.

Now some people will quite correctly go no no no that's not how I see it and that takes them away from the story. I understand that but I am interested in writing a coherent story where all those decisions support the much broader narrative which I am interested in.

Philosophical 

Oddly enough some of these questions are answered in the film and supporting materials but people from the literal group want "Evidence" and evidence that fits there view of what evidence is.

i) You made us why did you want to destroy us. Charlie and David both answer this at different points in the movie because we could and why does it matter. It is the question of Milton's Adam and the Creature created by Frankenstein. The underlying point is we assume our creator likes us even loves us clearly that is not the case. We are just something in a Petri Dish that can be upgraded, just like Dave the robot.

ii) What is the soul? That's one of the fun questions which we get no sense of in the film. David is offended by Sir Peter's remark in the Hollo Speech, wishes Sir Peter a safe journey and is fascinated by Elizabeth. He thinks there is some kind of answer. I provide one which makes perfect sense to a Robot.

iii) We do not get any clear idea of who the big chap is in the movie and that's a fun question. What I can say is 'it' made them. I also take as gospel Ridley's comment that he left the Engineers out of the Prologue because he did not want to meet God until the second movie. I also take the fact he called the material in the imbibing cup Genesis as being important. 

Now a certain segment of the audience would have loved those questions answered provided in a thought-provoking way. Damon and Ridley had some "Cool Ideas." I answered those questions and I stuck to Logan Marshalls remarks its neither Darwin or Faith-Based and it is also consistent with Ridley's view that we may simply be a footnote. 

However I hope my remarks have communicated that if you are from a literal background with your own preconceptions you would find my story understandably difficult. 

Then there is the issue that for some A L I E N fans Prometheus is an intrusion. I use that thought cheekily as a metaphor in my story and reverse the process I make the creature an unintended consequence. I take the view Kane was not meant to linger over the Ovoid they had much bigger fish to fry. 

So to sum up:-

1) If you have preconceived views of your own.

2) You want evidence that my view is "right."

3) Anyway, Prometheus is an intrusion. 

Then the book doesn't help. You talk about interpretations, having delved deeply into this you can imagine I would find it supremely hard to suspend and look at an alternative view. For a very simple reason, I wrote the book so I could get Elizabeths answers not for her but for me. So I have them and I am profoundly moved when people feel they got there's too not because they are accurate within the imagined world of Ridley and Damon but because it means we are together on a journey unlike Elizabeth who is alone.    

Imagine! If I had an extra $50k lying around I would definitely be placing bids on a few of these pieces hahahaha

"The monsters are not what the franchise is about, to me it is more about humans that get into situations that they are not prepared to handle"

I think the ALIEN Franchise had became Synonymous with the Xenomorph you just dont have the ALIEN Franchise without it.....

But while the Anchor of the Story is about this Monster, you always NEED to have Characters to give the Story its Legs and well our Prospective to the THREAT.... for us Ripley became that Protagonists

A Plot Idea/Story that revolves around a THREAT/HORROR does require Good Characters and Writing for it to become any Good.... this is WHAT can make or BREAK a Movie.... sadly indeed i feel that only the First 3 Movies pulled this off.

The Prequels decided to EXPLORE the Space Jockey Race more than to Connect to ALIEN at first.... it had Potential as it showed you can have more Monsters/Threats than just Xenomorphs.

But when we get to Alien Covenant then the Emphasis does become too much on DAVID at the Sacrifice of everything else.

I think most of us could AGREE... that if we went back to 2010 and had NEWS that we would be having a Prequel that would cover the Space Jockey and eventually indicate the WHO/WHEN/HOW and WHY as far as the Xenomorph.

I dont think we could ever envisage this Prequel Series to have the EMPHASIS on a Synthetic Android.

I think while the Prequels could ELEVATE the Role and Importance of A.I in the Franchise... its a FAR CRY from something more ALIEN, Lovecraftian and HR Giger that we would have all Imagined.

The UNKNOWN is what made ALIEN Great.... by the Time we got to Alien Resurrections there was NOT much Unknown... apart from some Questions Regarding ALIEN

*Special Order 937? How did this come about?

*What was the Cargo For, WHY did the Space Jockey have it?

*What are the Origins of the Xenomorph?

*Who are the Space Jockey and their Purpose/Agenda?

Looking at WHAT we know so FAR about those and HOW they could continue in the Prequels as of the After-Math of Alien Covenant compared to WHAT we would have expected or thought about BEFORE we had any Prequels are.... WORLDS APART!

And to be Centered around the ARC of a Wayward Synthetic David.... which i know is NOT really what the Emphasis should be on...

When looking at the OT.... its a Question of can we MAKE the Franchise Great again... YET go and Ignore the Prequels...

I think you CAN go and make another ALIEN Movie that does-not Connect to the Prequels but also you dont want to TRY and Contradict what is shown... but also NOT to Solidify what was shown.

I think that SHIP (Derelict) has sailed off into the Sunset or SANK!  But you can still introduce other SHIPS.... and maybe these DONT have to have the same Monster as we saw in the Alien Franchise?

Or at least offer a Slightly Different Variant ;)

"To raise children without full grown adults, not teaching them the ways of Man, the human history, or the origin of the species"

This was in Part what i had felt that Alien Covenant sequel would have been like..... i had given some Interpretations on here Months before Raised by Wolves News broke, and the News we had then about RBW did seem to be similar to the Interpretations i had of RS comments about AC2.

Certainly the whole Aspect about Knowledge and Free-will and what we are Informed can MOLD a Civilization... which inc Mythos and Religion.

Religion has caused Conflicts over the Centuries, and also Every Child is born Innocent and its the Knowledge they are Passed On and how they are Treated that SHAPES what kind of a Human they become.

You can bet those Androids would have tried to RAISE those Children to a Certain way to AVOID the Conflicts and Flaws of Mankind...

So you can Certainly see the Androids would be Concerned with the Arrival of other Parties that can have a Influence on the kind of Paradise they are trying to Build.

It would be like the story of NOAH and say 2 Generations after his Children we have a Established Village where Noah has passed on the Ways of God.... 

Then for a Group of Ships to arrive at Shore... other Survivors who made it from the Deluge who were NOT chosen by GOD.... in this Made Up Scenario you could see that Noah would be Extremely Worried about the Influence and Corruption these Uninvited Guests/Intruders could bring.

But to go back to Raised by Wolves.... some of these NEW Shots do seem to indicate maybe the Plot is NOT Quite what i had Interpreted from AC2 well maybe a little.

In regards to Wondering what the Relevance of that BEING we see Flying/Floating has... is that Egg like Object something the other Human Ship was following? or was the Egg stored on that Human Ship has it Crashed?

I remember the FIRST set of Prometheus Prop Auctions way back in 2013......

Would have been ACE to had OWNED one of the Prometheus Cryo-Pods that was on Auction....  a Engineer One would have been Better ;)

I have not seen the Extras yet.... i only have the DVD version.

But indeed maybe we cant overlook the Valhalla connection.

It is after all Connected to the song David chose to play and then also had asked MUTHUR to play for him "Entry of the Gods Into Valhalla"

But then maybe if we look at that Song it depends on which Context we look at it as far as Davids Arc or to Planet 4

I think maybe we also cant be Looking at things maybe too Literally.  By that i Certainly mean as far as Paradise/Valhalla in regards to a Literal Place in the Franchise the Spirit/Souls of certain individuals END UP.

Maybe Planet 4 could be a Warriors Paradise many Thousands of Years ago but had NOW changed somewhat as those beings on Planet 4 did-not look like Warriors.

I think if we are looking at the Engineers we maybe have to Consider exactly WHAT would they deem as a Warrior Death but also the Worthy Souls.

If we indeed TRY to connect Valhalla to Planet 4 we have to remember that this is a PLACE that is Located in the Realm of the Gods (Asgard) so maybe in that Context then the Cathedral/Citadel Building that Contains the HALL OF HEADS could be loosely connected to what Valhalla is but would this mean those Hall of Heads are Warriors?  Chris Seagers refers to them as the Hierarchy and Ridley Scott as the Apostles, Wise Men and Superior Beings.

We also have the Plaza outside the City, with the Hanger at its Center... this has Numerous Statues of Engineers, and could these be Representations of Fallen Warriors?  or those Deemed Worthy?

To me i wonder if they are Statues to Commemorate a Important Significance to some Engineers... those Chosen as Worthy of something... maybe in Honor to Chosen Sacrifices?

It could be the Engineers Seed Life or they Experiment with it some place/places and then they take those Deemed Worthy to Planet 4 to then Interbreed to Create maybe a Gene-Pool that they then USE to select for the Sacrificial Rituals (Sacrificial Goo).

I thought the Starmaps was the Engineers showing Mankind as to WHERE we came from... so i thought that LV-223 was at one time where they would Experiment with Creation and then Seed the Desired Results to Earth.

These Crude Maps had lead Dr Shaw and Holloway to LV-223 but who is to say that they Misinterpreted the Charts.

So when we look at Alien Covenant then from the Advent Vial Video it seems that Planet 4 is located near the Zeta 2 System also.... so MAYBE the Maps was pointing to Planet 4 but Dr Shaw and Holloway took the Prometheus Mission to the WRONG PLACE.

Who knows the Extent and Depths to the Engineers Origins... as Each of the Hall of Heads could represent a slightly different Engineer Species.

Imagine owning a miniature model worth half a million dollars... unbelievable!