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I've got a "Video unavailable" message for the embed in the topic.

"Playback on other websites has been disabled by the video owner."

I didn't disable the playback so I can only assume it is a constraint (20th Century Fox, Disney) due to the film sequence of the video. That is a real bummer because I had a great shot of the flip flops.

I love the comics Dark Nebula.  The cobra-like Xenomorph looks big. 

NECA David 8 is below on LV-223. 

Great news and a nice fit with all the new developments daliens. Thank you for the share....it will pacify me a little BigDave.

Certainly not like a film or TV series (oh could I be so rewarded for the times I didn't cuss).  The comics seem to fill the "far out" section of Alien content....love them.

Excellent reconciliation of the mechanics and mercenaries BigDave. Thank you so very much.  

He could be a second synthetic if we consider important the fact that they were shown both performing the same action at the same time while laying a hand and a towel across the shoulder of those comforted, above photo.  

This was right after Vickers said to David to wake everyone up but there was a break after David walked in the room with the opening hypersleep pods before the cut to the second pair of flip flops.

I'm still trying to figure out the recipient of Advent.  

"And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead."...no realization like this for me yet with the Advent recipient.

"2) There are some Minor Advancements as things Improvebetween Models and Each Prototype has the Memories(Soul) of the Previous Model Prototype Transferred into the New Body."

Sir Peter Weyland's notes (The Weyland-Yutani Report, page 35) were used to build the Hyperdine Systems androids (Ash).  

I assume, at the time of his death, Mr. Weyland had multiple synthetic models in development in addition to the David 8 and Walter models.

Please add anything you think of Lone.  I've read a topic of yours in the last days and appreciate anything you have to add, on topic or not.

Gordon is such a great reference Gavin.  

I'm familiar with the David and Walter models being named after David Giler, Walter Hill and it hadn’t occurred to me that another could certainly be named Gordon, after Gordon Carroll.  

The white room is shown quite clearly and from the same angle in the Meet Walter and the opening of Alien: Covenant and I don't believe it was an accident.  Thank you for the rich historical framing.

The portrait of Tyrell in episode 1 was a nice touch.

Will there be other Blade Runner and Alien connections in episode 2?

I cant seem to get these to Play...

Hope the work is coming along Nicely as i liked the stuff you had done before ;)

I think it will give certain Fanbase something Interest to Pacify them.. Its nice that the Comics will Tie in with a Video Game.

I guess by how well these do, will allow Disney to Gauge if there is Potential to explore a more Aliens/Colonial Marines Type Movie or a Colonial Marines TV Series

I would be interested to see a Colonial Marines TV Series or Comics that DONT have to be about BUG HUNTING the Xenomorph as surely thats not the ONLY  thing these guys do ;)

I think what we have is DAVID... be it his Body or Walters, he was Masquerading as Walter to Mislead the Company, so that maybe they would not Investigate the Covenant and just assume all is now well and its on its way to Origae-6.

The Advent is a Strange One, as i dont think this is a wise move by David, it makes NO sense for him to Transmit this, not before he has Accomplished what he had intended.   But he could have done this as a Red Herring, if say he would mislead the Company to go to Origae-6 so that David can go elsewhere... But it is still a Potential Error for David surely if he decides to go to  LV-223 instead or stay on Planet 4, the Company would be sending Ships to those places, and as those places are within a 10-12 Months from Earth, the Company would Detect the Covenant is heading towards this area.

Maybe The Advent was a attempt to Bait the Company to go to LV-223 and Planet 4 as Priority so that they DONT follow him to Origae-6.... but then the we have to ask that IF he had NOT sent the Advent Message, then would the Company have any reasons to SUSPECT something is NOT right with the Covenant Mission and Intercept the Ship before it gets to its Destination or at a Later Point which would leave David less time to Create what ever he wanted?

Regarding Multiple Synthetics..... in regards to Walter, then i think we could assume there are enough Spare Parts to Maintain Walter, and its a case of WHAT parts are there and is there enough to Build a New Walter, or MORE than ONE?

And what default Program would they have, and would David be so Foolish to Activate One, without Wiping its Memory/Protocols First?

I think the Music/Soundtrack is a Important Part of a Movie for Various Reasons.

I think just as with the Director, i feel the Choice/Style of Soundtrack and Composer really comes down to WHAT KIND of a Movie they would be working on.

Prometheus and Alien Covenant's Soundtracks were Different, and both Movies were kind of Different. One being a Space Exploration Adventure that dealt with Creationism and Search for Answers that leads to Hell Breaking Loose where Discovery Leads to a Thriller/Horror (to a degree)  the other  a Expectation of Discovering a Paradise that becomes a Thriller/Horror that is more of a Horror/Slasher Element to it.

The Prometheus Soundtrack fitted very well with that kind of Movie, and Alien Covenants was more a NOD to the Original Alien.

And so depending on the Next Movie and what it will be about would have a Impact to what kind of Score and who is best to Compose it.  A more Action Based ALIEN Movie like Aliens and Alien Resurrection would maybe not have the same Score as a Haunted House like Alien and Alien 3.

So as with the Director i think a lot depends on WHAT the Movie is to be about and WHAT style of Movie, then you find which Director and Composer would be best suited.

Jonathan Glazer. He's done some great (and slightly weird stuff), takes his time and gets it right. Examples:

Sexy Beast

Under The Skin

@setaverde, I thought Morgan (Luke Scott) was a terribly dreary movie.

I'm glad that Blomkamp is back in his box. It would have only looked just like District 9 / Chappie / Elysium. He can't help himself.

What if Walter downloaded David's files (mostly the files shown in Advent, passwords, whatever made David's twisted character) and chose to reign in hell?

David saw the potential of Walter (you have symphonies in you, brother) and simply the fact that he gave him the choice to serve in heaven or reign in hell means that there was a possibility of choice built in Walter. Or maybe he started to malfunction after he was brutally shut down by David?

Another fact that could indicate Walter is on board the Covenant is the transmission sent at the end of the film, he logged in as Walter.

He did not forget about the cabin on the lake (I think this part is even missing in the novelization), he was just being sadistic, knowing that Daniels was now locked into the cryopod, he was playing cat and mouse.

I still think that David uploaded himself into Walter, rather than cutting off his hand etc. Mind you, if that were the case, why didn't the cuts on Walter's face self heal?

Sorry for going off topic, why do I even bother about it anymore?  :)

Another thing, why does Walter say "we are Walter" at the end of the Meet Walter viral?

After seeing how COVENANT ended, does it mean that David & Walter have always been assimilated? 

I actually noticed the other similarly clad person from my first viewing of PROMETHEUS & have often wondered if it was another synthetic. As he appeared to have little significance regarding the theatrical release I let it go.

Ridley did state in an interview from the set that there could be another synthetic on board. Since then I've wondered if perhaps the other person was originally intended to feature more prominently, but changes during filming caused that character's role to become virtually insignificant, or perhaps relegated to the cutting room floor?

We may never know!

Great to see Ridley's classic ad has been restored...or should I say retrofitted? :)

Hey NTFS! So I heard most of the music you posted, there was some really cool stuff there.

The Seven Worlds Theme (Link)

I think this track was great and beautiful, but I felt it was maybe too like… hopeful? For the “Alien” universe. By the way the visuals on that video are amazing and I see that commercial was directed by none other than Ridley Scott himself.

I tried to listen to the Marco Beltrami songs but all of them say "Video Unavailable", it looks like they were erased. I see by his IMDB he has scored A TON of movies, a lot of which I have watched and there are some really good ones like Scream, The Faculty, Blade 2, Hellboy, I Robot, Snowpiercer and A Quiet Place; I see he specializes in thrillers and horror. I really liked how “A Quiet Place” handled the music and sounds; the other ones it’s been a long time since I saw them so I really don’t remember their scores, but I remember having greatly enjoyed the movies as a whole.

James Hannigan - Anticipation

This was really really cool, this one sounded to me way more fitting to “Alien” than the Seven Worlds one.

James Hannigan - Dangerous Chase

Well the name of this one is really self-explanatory lol... It totally sounds like the music of an exciting chase sequence, I think this one also could work really well on an “Alien” movie.

Zack Hemsey - Vengeance

I really really liked this one too... It didn’t feel very "Alien"ish to me although I guess it might work like towards the end when the climax is already done and the end credits are about to roll out. I see that it was used in the movie "The Equalizer", I saw that movie but I didn’t remember the music; really powerful stuff.

Zack Hemsey - the way

This was really intense too. For some reason it reminded me of “Inception”, and funny enough somewhere in the comments of the YouTube video someone said he actually composed something for that movie.

Shpongle - Around The World In A Tea Daze

This one was nice but I felt it was way too much Zen like for an “Alien” movie… Out of all the ones you listed I think this is the one that feels less like "Alien" music to me, but it is a really beautiful tune nonetheless.

Some not so subtle nods from Resident Evil. To be honest I could do a whole thread on everything RE owes to Alien lol.

PS.... Thanks for the Bump! 

I failed to come back to this Topic, and as we know more about AC and i have had chance to look at it more, i will have to look at what i put on here... in case i already covered it.

But having seen the Movie More, i believe the Black Goo can be Programed somehow... 

What i see in the Bombardment is those Urns are Activated/Programed in a Certain Way were the Pathogen infects the Targets and Replicates and then it Attacks the Targets Molecular Structure where it turns the Organic Material into a Solid (Petrifaction).

The Neomorph Spores are likely the effects of a UN-Activated Urn that has Cracked Open or some other way it Spills the Black Goo into the Stream/Water that runs down the Mountain and Infects Mold/Fungi that has grown and so created a Pathogen Hybrid Spore.

Much like we saw the effects in Prometheus...

There are FLAWS to this though......

1) How come we dont see any Infected/Hybrid Organisms that Live in the Stream/River?

2) How come we dont see any Petrified Birds or other Native Organisms only Engineers?

3) The Bombardment did-not infect all LIFE as David managed to Experiment on some Life he discovered and so the EFFECTS maybe only had a Certain Radius and it was just the Hubris of the Engineers to Put all their Eggs in One Basket (Live in ONE City)

I could try and explain a way around these, but would still have a contradictions....  At the END of the day the Writers NEVER thought so deep about any Contradictions and its a case of Oversight.

The Explanation the Goo has having a Unique Reaction which can KILL outright or Create a Hybrid is a way to Pass Off any Questions about the Effects making it a McGuffin.

I am not sure what is Aliens Gateway Station? in regards to a site...

If it is a reference to AVPGalaxy then i do see the point, unfortunately at times there seem a bit of dislike between Communities, but it does-not seem to much this site geared towards them, i cant speak for the other way around as i dont really ever visit their site....

Nothing Against it... just i may be tempted to JUMP IN and give my TWO Cents to their Forum and well taking part on TWO Sites could Wear My Keyboard out LOL

I only really notice the rare times i have been on that site to have a look, that there is more like for say Aliens/Cameron than for the Prequels/Ridley Scott but thats not to say Everyone on AVP is Pro Cameron and Anti Ridley Scott..

I just see (and this may be a bit unfair as i dont visit often) that the % on here seems more in Favor of a Prometheus/Ridley Scott  than a Aliens/Cameron and Vice Versa on AVPGalaxy.

But both sites have Pro/Anti Cameron/Aliens, and both have Pro/Anti Ridley Scott/Prometheus and you also get Fans who like both Directors and Movies...

Everyone is always Entitled to their own Opinions and Likes/Dislikes  ;)

I am more a 66/33  In Favor of Ridley Scott/Prequels... but then i am someone who kind of Sits on the Fence so it seems... i am neither a Left/Right more a 66/33 Kinda Guy.  I.E i see the Pros/Cons unobjectionable (75% of the time) regarding sides of a Debate/Fence.

"I'm still impressed that David performed his genetic engineering on paper in a stone temple room"

He has the Black Goo which basically would do most of the HARD WORK for him, its if he can figure out how to Program it.

Or if we look at Prometheus alone... (consider Alien Engineers) then if he can get the Goo to behave like the Sacrificial Stuff then he could Cross-Hybrid Traits as he wishes.

Example...

Sacrificial Goo + Wolf = Wolf DNA Mutagen,  Infect Human and RESULT = Werewolf.

Assume Human/Wolf with 50/50 DNA

Sacrificial Goo + Cat = Cat DNA Mutagen,  Infect Human and RESULT = Thundercat.

Assume Human/Cat with 50/50 DNA

Then if we used the Sacrificial Goo on a Werewolf we would end up with (in this theory) a Mutagen that would pass 50% Human and 50% Wolf DNA onto a Host.

If this Infects a Thundercat then we would (in this theory) have a Hybrid thats 25% Cat DNA, 25% Wolf DNA and 50% Human DNA

However if this Werewolf Mutagen was used on a CAT then we would get 25% Wolf, 25% Human and 50% Cat DNA Hybrid.

Looking at it like that then IF our David could get the Goo to Act like the Sacrificial Goo when he pleases he could use it to Cross-Hybrid Over and Over...

For example If you took the Thundercat/Werewolf Hybrid (25% Cat, 25% Wolf and 50% Human) and then used the Sacrificial Goo on that and then this Thundercat/Werewolf Hybrid Mutagen was then to Infect a BIRD...

The Result would be a 50% Bird, 25% Human, 12.5% Cat and 12.5% Wolf Hybrid.

I believe this is kind of like what David did, in how he managed to Mix Traits of so Many Organisms to obtain his Xenomorph.

LOL why not!

Maybe by the time we get to the Sequel, she could also play a Character and by then Davids Hair has grown again and he has got even more CRAZY! ;)

"Weyland-Yutani wanting to tame a biomechanical killing machine that has shown repeatedly that it cannot be tamed."

Certainly seems more plausible, especially if the Company know quite a bit about LV-223 and how David had Engineered such a Creation.   We could maybe even Wonder if the Engineers had encounter a Ancient related Ancestor and had Re-Engineered their Bio-Mechanical Technology from it.

Another Avenue..... Regardless of IF David Created it or NOT!

If we was to be shown that David Evolved a Xenomorph (his or Ancient) so that it could be Controlled.... the Company would be interested to see HOW it was that David could Control them, and this would give them a Reason to Persue it...

Because if David had a way of doing so, then IF the company could discover HOW then the Xenomorph would be more Viable....  And Blomkamps Alien 5 seems to indicate as such (company finding ways to Control them)

Regarding the Naming then Indeed Gavin we would have been Expecting a Eugene or Edward but we got a Walter and so who knows if the Next Synthetic we see could be Gordon, we cant rule that out.

Regarding David the Back Ground is changed a Bit by Alien Covenant, and so the Time-Line of David Models from the Prometheus Viral Site are changed a little.

We have to then Consider one of TWO things...

1) How much had the other Models Changed/Advanced from 2-8? Because apart from the Hair its hard to tell even a Walter/David Apart!  So is David only David 1?

2) There are some Minor Advancements as things Improve between Models and Each Prototype has the Memories (Soul) of the Previous Model Prototype Transferred into the New Body.

I would be inclined to consider (2) and i think its likely IF we get a AC2 then we would see David Transfer his Soul into a Walter Model Body (if he is not revealed to already had done so).

I would not be draw to the Walter and David being created at the Same Time, its likely after the Yutani Merger they used the Same Room, but those beings seeing to Walter are Asian Ethnicity and i think thats a sure sign of a post Weyland-Yutani Merger.

I watched Prometheus Last Night...

I will come back to the Mystery Person shortly...

After this scene i watched the Briefing that Followed and in that Room were... Dr Shaw, Holloway, David, Miss Vickers, Fifield, Milburn, Chance, Ravel and Ford of the Main Cast.

With also the 4 Mercenaries (Wearing Black) and 2 Mechanics (Wearing a Green/Beige with Caps)

Missing were  Janek and the other TWO Mechanics

Mechanic 3 (Eugene O'Hare)

Mechanic 4 (Matthew Burgess)

Are the TWO that were Unaccounted for at the Briefing, the Guy on the Floor being seen to by our Mystery Person is Mechanic 3 (Eugene O'Hare) and so maybe he was being seen to by Mechanic 4 (Matthew Burgess).  Maybe this makes sense if these TWO Work Close together hence they was given Maintenance Duties during the Briefing.   You would need someone to be on the Bridge and also Crew who can Help with the Ship should any Problems occur while everyone else is in the Meeting and thats the Job of your Mechanics ;)

So the Mystery Person could be Matthew Burgess but he is only Listed as being in TWO Movies and there are NOT many Photos of him to Compare... 

In the Shot in Question the Mystery Person seems to have a Different Nose and Look Older, so maybe its NOT our Mechanic 4?

There are 3 other Members of the Crew who COULD fit the Bill...  which are Mercenaries 2,3 and 4 however IF it is one of those then they GOT up First, dressed similar to David and then prior to Breakfast they Got Changed into their Black Top Security Attire.

IF not then we really could WONDER who this other Person Was!

If the Flop Flops are a Give Away, then No Wonder our David was Upset that Dr Shaw would not Give Him any Loving... because she already Slept with Android Holloway LOL

This topic is getting so much hate on Aliens Gateway Station I'm temped to start a gofundme to get an Alien-Prometheus documentary made based on this guy's hard work just to piss them off. I mean, why the fuck can't people like, just accept the fact that there are Alien fans out there that are SUCH YUUUG FANS that they like BOTH AVPGalaxy AND SciFied? That they like BOTH Alien Covenant AND Prometheus? That they don't stand for divisive echo-chamber type bullshit and won't give in just because a frothing trash-heap of fucking morons are dogpiling them. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MARINE!

I believe Geena Davis would breathe some fresh air into the franchise.  

This is, of course, under the director she has worked with before in Thelma and Louise.

I'll check out both the book and the movie.

Thank you for the share I Raptus.

"The technology of a biomechanical, programmable viral agent would be not only highly coveted and lucrative (we are essentially talking alchemy here), but would be worth billions, and would also be perfectly suited to developing biological weaponry."

That sure lines up with what is in the novels Gavin.  Weyland-Yutani reorganized once gaining the samples, below.  

Chapter 39 Communications

"To: L.Bannister@Weyland-Yutani.com
From: A.Rollins@Weyland-Yutani.com

Lorne,

It appears that the subject is substantially more aggressive than we had expected, or even hoped....

I believe we will be substantially closer to a fruitful merging of biotech and weapons manufacture...

The alien vessel and the buildings found at the dig site indicate similar-if not the same-patterns: organically grown synthetic life."

Year 2497, Alien: Sea of Sorrows, page 260.

Great stuff. I'm still impressed that David performed his genetic engineering on paper in a stone temple room, below.

Agreed, madness is welcome.

Thank you for the link to the article setaverde and nice topic.

The quotes below from the article cite some DNA basics and how the development (enzyme acceptance) was different from other genetic engineering work.

"For billions of years, the history of life has been written with just four letters — A, T, C and G, the labels given to the DNA subunits contained in all organisms. That alphabet has just grown longer, researchers announce, with the creation of a living cell that has two 'foreign' DNA building blocks in its genome.

'We didn’t even think back then that we could move into an organism with this base pair,' says Denis Malyshev, a former graduate student in Romesberg’s lab who is first author of the new paper. Working with test-tube reactions, the scientists succeeded in getting their unnatural base pair to copy itself and be transcribed into RNA, which required the bases to be recognized by enzymes that had evolved to use A, T, C and G.

The first challenge to creating this alien life was to get cells to accept the foreign bases needed to maintain the molecule in DNA through repeated rounds of cell division, during which DNA is copied. The team engineered the bacterium Escherichia coli to express a gene from a diatom — a single-celled alga — encoding a protein that allowed the molecules to pass through the bacterium's membrane."

Thanks, Ingeniero.

Beautiful!

One more Alien film from Ridley Scott, please!

"Hovis has remastered its iconic "Boy on a Bike" commercial, directed by Sir Ridley Scott in the '70s, for a modern audience.

The spot was originally created by then-agency CDP in 1973, and was one of the breakthrough ads of Scott's career. It features a delivery boy pushing a basket of bread on a bike up Gold Hill in Shaftesbury, Dorset, then riding back down again to the bakery.

It has been digitally remastered in 4K by Ridley Scott Associates and the British Film Institute National Archive.

It's now set to a re-recording of Dvorak's "New World Symphony" by the Ashington Colliery Brass Brand, from a new generation of members of the original band who recorded it." (source)

I thought this was a wonderful way to view Ridley Scott's early work and looking back at Alien Day...I guess any big upcoming Alien film/series news would be washed out/cannibalized with the Avengers: Engame release on the same day.

Likely what BigDave said, but let us conspire...

In Prometheus, we were introduced to David, which we believed at the time to be a random name picked out of the proverbial hat that followed the unwritten naming convention for synthetics in the Alien franchise - Ash, Bishop, Call, David.

But with Alien: Covenants introduction of Walter it was revealed that the synthetics of the Alien prequels are named after the producers of the franchise Brandywine productions, who are David Giler, Walter Hill and the late Gordon Carroll. Which could mean that in the next movie Michael Fassbender may be playing a third synthetic called Gordon if rumors that development of the next movie is gathering momentum are true?

As for there being a second synthetic aboard the USCSS Prometheus...

It is my belief that David is the original David prototype, as seen in the opening to Alien: Covenant designed and developed by Peter Weyland himself, and that all subsequent Davids, such as the David 8 were mass-produced copies of the David prototype developed by Weylands company for the commercial market.

If the quotation in the OP is canon this would mean that the second synthetic was a David 8, with the prototype Davids name having been redacted to cover up the truth behind Project Prometheus and the fate of the USCSS Covenant.

However, it is also possible that this second synthetic could be a Walter. In the aforementioned opening scene of Alien: Covenant David is activated within a blindingly white room with a panoramic window looking out to a grand landscape of mountains and hills.

This very same room was also used in the Meet Walter viral video, suggesting that the Walter model of synthetic may have been developed at the same time as David. However, it would seem that the Walter model aboard the USCSS Covenant was an upgraded Walter model.

Going back to the naming conventions, it is also possible that that the other synthetic aboard the USCSS Prometheus may have been a Gordon model if David and Walter were manufactured at the same time.

"Lets hope Disney have the sameConfidence/Trust with Ridley Scott, and also think maybe Disney can come to a better agreement with the HR Giger Estate."

I forgot about Giger Estate.

But, yes, Disney have the money to, why not, buy the Giger Estate as well.

Ha Ha... i like a Good Conspiracy ;)

This is a EXCELLENT CATCH!

Who knows who this could be, it could be one of the Mercenaries or Mechanics.

Contenders are..

Matthew Burgess (Mechanic 3)
Florian Robin (Mechanic 2)
C.C Smiff (Mercenary 3)
Shane Steyn (Mercenary 4)

I am more drawn to Shane Steyn, but with the Flip Flops and how they are UP and READY and tending to others, then WHO KNOWS ;)

Certainly Cant beat a Conspiracy ;)

I can't imagine the implications in the making of a new alien film, now that gladiator 2 is happening. Perhaps Ridley Scott ONLY produces the new alien movie.

"Everybody, i ask you to forgive my Madness"

Madness is Welcome ;)

"What if the engineers had created androids before humans"   

AND

"That's why the engineer of Prometheus riped out the head of David, without hesitation"

Well that could be CLOSER to the Truth ;)

You see by Virtue of Ridley Scott suggesting our Planet 4 Plane Jane Engineers are the Originals..  and considering how when talking about AI he said Rachael and Batty were AI then things maybe are more clearer..

Replicants are AI Creation, just as Synthetics are, ONE is Organic, the other Synthetic.  Both ARTIFICIALLY Created and Intelligent and so the LV-223 Engineers could be basically the Replicants of Engineers Society, an so Created to Serve.

Before the Engineer TORE off Davids head, he Caressed his Head we saw PITY in the Engineers Eyes, if the Engineer was a Created/Engineer Servant then he could see in David a reflection of himself...

But if these Engineers become Rebellious to their Masters, then the Engineer would also Foresee the Potential for David to be the same and so he could see that David would be a Threat?

Maybe the Engineers had Renounced there ways, in relation to the Pursuit of Perfection/Engineering themselves or a Kind like this.  On ONE side it could be as with the Replicants (1).... to Serve... on the OTHER it could be like Human Elites Genetically Engineer (2) their Children to be Perfect, to have Designer Babies...  Eradicating all Flaws, making or attempting to Perfect Humans.

Imagine that...  giving Traits and Engineering Perfect Humans in terms of Superior Genetics, from Intelligence, to Physical to being Immune to a all Manner of Genetic Defects that affect LIFE-SPAN.

The Problem with this would be Eventually you risk Creating a Cast of Humans who see themselves as Superior and would want to RULE over their In-superior Brothers/Sisters and even to the Point Generations down the Line, that there is NO Need for Standard Plane Jane Humans.

So with those Engineers it could be either Scenario (1) or (2) from above ;)

The Engineers Renouncing their Ways..

This could be like if Earth and Mankind became Controlled by  Replicants, or Engineering Designer Babies leads to a Socieity of Elites who deem Mankind Worthless.

Then IF some Humans Destroyed these Freaks!  And Started Again...  they would maybe look back in Hubris and decide to NEVER play GOD and Genetically Engineer Enhanced Beings again. ;)

This is Gigerish. Disney loves the man but they just don't know it!