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I still wonder what Fox intended with the release of Advent and bringing the Engineers back on topic. Did they feel the need to explain some of the questions raised by Prometheus, to shed some light on their legacy, their place in the universe? Do those murals have some meaning?
("You wouldn’t believe the secrets I have unlocked. There was so much potential on this world. Wasted by Gods that feared their own might. They convinced themselves that sacrifice cleansed them of their sins. But in the end, they were like me. Creators. Beings that understood you must give life both to the wolf, and the lamb. But then they tried to banish the wolf, And undo their creation. So I took their secrets for myself.")
It seems obvious that we could learn only from David about the Engineers' ways, only by deciphering their files and not by direct questioning from Shaw.
I wonder if we will ever get back (in any form) the missing time elapsed between Prometheus and Alien Covenant, including the ten years spent by David on Planet 4.
To answer the topic, Prometheus would have been great, in my opinion, without the silly horror elements, less crew and subsequently less ridiculous dialogues and deaths. The hammerpede and trilobite did not convince me, I prefer the creatures from Covenant.
ignorantGuy my humble contribution to this post is making the news available to the forum readers, all the credit goes to Screen Daily.
I never read the Martian Chronicles but have heard it name dropped several times. For literature, short stories were and are cool. Asimov was probably the best- the plot, story telling and hard science were all there.
ignorantGuy Issues with Prometheus I have stated set aside, it is a good movie by itself. It would have been better if AC would have went more into the Engineers though (and I liked AC as a stand alone movie as well).
ignorantGuy Thanks a lot. After reading your post, I spat/sneezed beer on my keyboard. What a mess.
For me it was Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, then Star Trek: The Next Generation. I ended up being an Alien not a Star Wars fan.
Of the books: Ray Bradbury with Martian Chronicles (he is still my favourite writer today) and J. Allen Hynek with The Hynek UFO Report
Copy pasting whole articles (even in quotes) is not a good thing. It will attract the ire of Mr H reviews' "crew".
dk But it does answer every question by either it does not matter and Shaw has a terrible fate (either dead or alien breeding machine). You should thoroughly satisfied with these. David is the only thing that matters, accord to Hagg(?).
Prometheus is indeed a beauty to behold visually. The story and black goo mystery were both very interesting as well. Unfortunately, the follow up movie didn't seem to do much to answer those questions.
Honestly, Prometheus seems to be a really good movie as a stand alone unrelated to Alien imo.
Great news! Thanks for the heads up daliens.
Fantastic news, thanks daliens!
I loved 78/52: Hitchcock’s Shower Scene. This should be very interesting. A nice tribute to Dan O'Bannon and a new take on the origins of my favourite film, what's not to love!
Thanks Matt Hatton, Dane Hallett and Ridley Scott for enriching the Alien universe.
And thanks to Titan Books for this beautifully grotesque piece of art.
I got it!!! It's huge!!! All the files David sent to Weyland-Yutani are there!!!
This is great. I'm glad I got to read this. Thanks for the notice and additional info Dark Nebula.
Last trip to the theater I made was to see Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom because I'm a pathetic JP fan. Most of the time I just pirate movies lol.
Gotta side with Tull Locum Spiritum
I have a nuclear embouchure now.
Excellent direction Michelle Johnston. Please include me on your list of those requesting to read your work.
I love the description of sandals challenges. Great topic.
I am looking forward to an Alien Park in Disneyland
Love the packaging. :D But wish the price could be a little bit lower
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I believe Weyland Walter is referring to the opening graphic daliens. The gif above you shared is great.
"For me it depends on the movie. If I know I want to see it I’ll go to a theater, but if it’s something that looks okay or if I don’t know if I’d like it I’ll just rent it."
That describes my movie watching habit perfectly Sci-Fi King25.
Sure, I like to make it to the theater but can't find the time with some films. I am a proud hermit (it is so hidden here) and can certainly relate to dk's described feelings on going out in public above.
My last trips to the theater:
Summer 2018 - The Big Lebowski, 20th anniversary rerelease
Summer 2017 - Alien: Covenant (3 times)
Fall 2016 - Arrival
I missed Blade Runner 2049 at the theater but did not want to. I have watched the film at home about 5 times (Blue-Ray, HBO).
Thank you Chris. I do this for all of you....I'm really not that obsessed with the topic. Ha.
If I start a band IRaptus, I think we have found a name. My next step to learn the flute.
I'm not kissing David though.
Excellent daliens, I didn't know the Latin reference and I thought this may mean something to someone. Thank you for deciphering.
I tripped and fell backwards on something sharp. I now have Annus horribilis due to my injury. That is so great.
For me Alien: Covenant is like a multi-deck sandwich containing too many favourite fillings, some of which really don't complement one another!
It begins well enough with David & Weyland in the white room, a scene which I found captivating & linking nicely with Prometheus' opening scene. Why that planet, is it the same one as in it's predecessors opening scene? As we've come to expect, there was much more to that scene if you looked & listened carefully!
Then we have our beautiful ship, traversing through space & we're off. An introduction to its resident AI & crew. Plus Ridley showing off with his beautiful gold recharging sails, god knows we should allow him that moment, now that he had the means & after all he has given to us!
Ridley included many Alien & Aliens beats in scenes, dialogue etc...well you guys know what I mean. Some brought up feelings of nostalgia, whilst others…hmm
Some people think he has dropped the ball. I don’t, but I do think he allowed himself to be talked into adding more typical Alien Franchise tropes over some of the important Promethean elements, which I am convinced, he fully intended to pursue.
I understand why he agreed to that, studio pressure, bums on seats, internet backlash, etc. Nevertheless I’m disappointed, because that decision produced a final cut which in trying to cater to an ever widening demographic of fans, resulted in too many elements being glossed over & squeezed together, causing odd changes in pacing & content.
I also believe that he intended to refer to H.R. Giger’s pre Alien work for many of the design elements, remember the Necronom IV clapperboards? Given Fox’s relationship status with Giger’s estate that became totally untenable!
Something else which could back that up was the exclusive interview Chris posted with Odd Studios & Creatures Inc, where the guys said that they initially believed they were hired to build already existing designs, but it turned out they also had to design everything from scratch, within as it turned out, a very limited timescale.
"AC: You worked closely with Alien: Covenant's concept artists to bring their imaginations to life. Were there any of their concepts which you did not get a chance to create, but wish you could have?
Conor: We were the Alien: Covenant Creature concept artists. I would have liked to have more time.
Adam: When we began the project we were under the impression most things were designed and had been signed off on, but this was not the case and we did become the concept artists/designers."
For me Alien: Covenant may not be the perfect cinema blend, I feel it’s a disappointing follow up to PROMETHEUS. However, it does contain moments which make it a very worthy addition to the Franchise.
I can't watch ALIENS anymore, always enjoyed the Assembly Cut of ALIEN 3. I think I must be mellowing with age, as I've changed my opinion on Resurrection...it's kinda fun!
...and yes Neomorph (just in case he reads this) I still HATE Resurrections Newborn!! X
I’ve come to adore PROMETHEUS, but ALIEN remains my favourite…seems to me it probably always will be?
You said it Chris!
My pre-order is set to arrive today...the anticipation is killing me!
Regina is the Latin for queen. Aliens is the Annus horribilis of the Alien universe.
Me too, I can't see anymore Newt's terrible screaming.
Regina horribilis. Ha! there's a band name in that!
MonsterZero agree with your feeling towards the films!
I re-watched them all recently too and ALIENS has dated the worst, its actually hard to watch lol.
BigDave for acutal Nazis David is the image of the jew https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/06/alien-covenantan-anti-semitic-allegory/
MonsterZero Interesting observations and we may have discussed over the years but it is worth mentioning again.
Don't forget how Twilight Zone et all looks these days in glorious grainy black and white. Story, characters and acting have always ruled.
Using Chrome helps but it is still a bit different. It used to be that one could basically toggle between forums but it is better just to use Scified as a home page. ileage may differ.
