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Oooooh well... Not working. Thanks for the kind words. I'll try something more "Prometheus" oriented a bit later.

LMAO Uh Oh! Fail.

Very cool.....but how did you manage to fit your alien into a pair of jeans????

Sorry....the title is actually...'First Spaceship On Venus'....I would have changed the title in an edit, but the forum is giving me technical trouble with that.

Oh and in my haste to post, I forgot to mention that it was released in 1960.

Again, sorry....still having issues with the edit function........'First Spaceship On Venus' is the title of a much shortened version of this film for release as an english dubbed cut. The original german film, as available on DVD, is entitled 'The Silent Star' and has much of the removed scenes restored to the film.......here's another synopsis with more interesting tidbits.... "In a utopian future of universal peace and brotherhood--1985 to be specific--a mysterious artifact found in Siberia is discovered to be a message from Venus. While the recording is studied, an international team of scientists is rocketed off to make contact with the mysterious planet. It takes the film some time to get going (worldwide harmony makes for a beautiful future but pallid drama when everyone gets along so nicely), but things begin to cook once they land on the misty wasteland of Venus. Swarms of metal bugs hop from glassy mutant trees and bubbling black mud oozes after our astronaut heroes, but no Venusians can be found amidst the geodesic architecture and buzzing power plants. What they discover instead is a terrifying conspiracy wrapped in an anti-war parable. Based on a novel by Polish science fiction legend Stanislaw Lem (whose work also inspired Andrei Tarkovsky's Solaris), this German science fiction adventure is a visual treat, from the sleek, grand, silver spaceship and a funky purple Venus landscape of alien ruins and crystalline bubbles. Decently (if prosaically) dubbed and trimmed down to a brisk 78 minutes, it's an entertaining triumph of psychedelic art direction and desolate alien weirdness presented in all its brightly colored, widescreen glory. --Sean Axmaker"

interesting, but I could not help but ask me after reading the topic: do engineers could be extinct and their cities are habited by their biological weapons? the space jockeys are monsters but more intelligent and capable of piloting ships, but are like the xenomorphs biological weapons?

I can do that for you Alien DNA. I'll have that ready for you in just a few minutes. So don't go offline ok. lol. Glad to hear your interested.

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Sweet

Hi Ripley Clone 8, their gifs are really good; I wonder if you can do one of Alien 3 when Ripley sacrificed his life and launches the metals smelting furnace to prevent the birth of the Queen. Best regards

Sure thing Shambhala, Here's the line up tonight: 1. Ripley "crew expendable" MUTHUR room 2. Alien DNA's GIF: Bishop, Hudson and the knife scene 3. Drop Ship scene from Aliens 4. Alien 3 Ripley Death Scene Shambhala's GIF

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Great Ripley Clone 8, I wait the gif and thanks...

Oh my days, I'm lovin' it! Ripley Clone 8, you da man! Lols

I've just noticed DB's GIF is seconds before mine in the film, at this rate we will be able to watch all of Alien in GIF format.

it's not like you got somethin' better to do right "Snorky"? LMAO

@ Sparky - SSHHH (titter)

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Thanks Biomechanic and thank you to BugHunter for that. I'll post more as and when. I'll put more on the Facebook page as well. I'm looking forward to the screening of it.

Exceptional. If they still commissioned film poster artwork like they used to, I would have loved to see what you would come up with for Prometheus.

hey, i have the mac that has the one button mouse called the "mighty" mouse so i cant right or left click...

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Snorky, To continue on topic in Aliens 2.5 there isn't really a logistical problem, its a tertiary back-up plan to Infecting the Colony which was clearly the corporation goal in Aliens. Plan: Xeno Bio-Weapons Study Primary Goal: Infect Colony Analyze Xeno Fall-Out Secondary Goal: Study Xeno Tactics and Retrieve Eggs Continuation Goal: Infect Colony Survivors on Sulaco The process repeats just as in all of the other Alien, AvP movies and we then have continuity. You know Aliens 2.5 with a corporation side story would be totally fricken awesome. I so want to see the marionette strings that the corporation uses with the xenos. Regards, Rick

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I agree with craigamore and aintnoxeno, there were liberties taken with Aliens that just broke the established rules set in Alien. If we are to take Alien as the original setting for the Alien series universe then we have to look at the broken rules. Unless Kane was suppose to be a "super host" the xeno born from him was much more durable within the story than the following xenos. If you were to logically read into what Ash had to say about the "xeno prime" (I'm going to call the Alien xeno, xeno prime since it was the first) then we could speculate that it was a highly adaptive creature that was able to withstand being forcibly repelled from a star ships thruster without being reduced to atoms! And in all likely hood xeno prime is still floating around in deep space basically inert. And it's those type of discrepancies in Aliens and the movies afterward that bother me and it appears also bothers Ridley Scott as it seems like he's pretty much ignoring all the movies except his.

[quote]Like you say: Apples and oranges... or in that case, apples and poop. [/quote] Well, found my signature when the feature becomes available.

Hey PROVO does your name refer to those Dutch provocateurs of the 60s?

Heres one thing that always bothered me about the Facehugger in Alien... When the Facehugger gets Kane in the Egg Chamber it breaks through his helmet with its embryo laying proboscis before melting a small hole through the glass of Kanes helmet (which means it doesn't spit acid from the proboscis), so that it can get inside the helmet and grab Kanes head, with its tail around his neck. The thing is that melted hole is so small and tight around the Facehuggers body, it has always bothered me how it got through, long finger-legs, scrotum air sacs, tail and all??? @ wtf1977, nice idea, but the Facehugger could've just smashed through the glass with its proboscis.

Oh yeah, I forgot Mortal Kombat. Probably for the best though. Seems he just takes others ideas and shits on them. I did enjoy Event Horizon though.

My biggest problem with AVP was that it damaged the incredible mythos established in both Alien and in Predator. Now before any of you decide to throw a basket full of facehuggers at me, let me state that I'm a huge fan of Cameron's Aliens. But when he decided to make the xeno more vulnerable to conventional damage i.e.; flame throwers, pulse rifle ammo, grenades, he effectively reduced the invulnerability that Ridley introduced in Alien. Ash defined, to a degree, that the xeno was most likely the perfect organism. And we never saw if a flame thrower would even work on the xeno as Ripley didn't get the chance to use it on the xeno. Moreover, we clearly saw the xeno take the full discharge of a space craft's thruster and it wasn't disintegrated just thrown into space. Of course that could have been to lack of budget. We also have to make basic assumptions that the xeno is durable to the effect that its body contains blood of such acidic properties that it burned through nearly 3 levels of space craft material, which we also have to suspect is made of a material that is so dense that it allows for such things as space pressurization and artificial gravity stresses. Yet in movies like Aliens, Alien Resurrection, AVP and AVPR the xeno is substantially less durable. I left Alien 3 out because it seems like the xeno regain some of it's invulnerability after having survived, albeit briefly, being bathed in molten metal. Furthermore, in addressing Predator (which I feel is one of Arnold's best performances as he actually played a character more so than playing himself) it was established that the Predator was also much more resourceful than shown in the ridiculous Predator sequel and in the AVP films. Or in other words Dutch got very lucky in managing to defeat the Predator after basically dropping a tree on the Predator! Overall, I just think that the creative minds behind the movies that followed Alien and Predator took way to many liberties with the laws that had been established in those movies universes, and that's probably the main reason Ridley is pretty much ignoring all the movies after his classic Alien film.

Personally, I don't get predator and alien slugging it out as a plotline. I can accept perhaps one scene where there is a standoff but an entire film doesn't have mileage. You need humans in the film to gain the audiences empathy and hence immerse them in the fear and suspense - providing the characters are well written and acted. IMO, predator and alien should never have met. I refuse to accept the concept that alien was merely game meat for predator - it encourages the dumbing down of alien (regrettably started with Aliens) and completely tarnishes the enigmatic and exotic nature of the being. Okay so you'll point out the "fishnet alien" in AvP exhibiting street smarts, but sorry that's not enough: for me, alien is not a headless chicken that runs at the first thing it sees, no, alien is methodical, pensive, patient, and sadistic - these attributes don't fit well in the shoot-em-ups that are AvP and AvP:R. What I'm trying to say is alien is not designed for teenage action movies. Finally, I actually do agree that with better direction, cinematography, casting, and of course screenplay, AvP may have worked quite well and proven me wrong. I mean, if Christopher and Jonathan Nolan were ever asked to do an AvP reboot, man, I would jizz in my pants! ...but no, instead we got the douchebag brothers Strause. If you enjoyed AvP:R then you must have loved their other work, SKYLINE. Lol or more like crying out loud.

Personally, I don't get predator and alien slugging it out as a plotline. I can accept perhaps one scene where there is a standoff but an entire film doesn't have mileage. You need humans in the film to gain the audiences empathy and hence immerse them in the fear and suspense - providing the characters are well written and acted. IMO, predator and alien should never have met. I refuse to accept the concept that alien was merely game meat for predator - it encourages the dumbing down of alien (regrettably started with Aliens) and completely tarnishes the enigmatic and exotic nature of the being. Okay so you'll point out the "fishnet alien" in AvP exhibiting street smarts, but sorry that's not enough: for me, alien is not a headless chicken that runs at the first thing it sees, no, alien is methodical, pensive, patient, and sadistic - these attributes don't fit well in the shoot-em-ups that are AvP and AvP:R. What I'm trying to say is alien is not designed for teenage action movies. Finally, I actually do agree that with better direction, cinematography, casting, and of course screenplay, AvP may have worked quite well and proven me wrong. I mean, if Christopher and Jonathan Nolan were ever asked to do an AvP reboot, man, I would jizz in my pants! ...but no, instead we got the douchebag brothers Strause. If you enjoyed AvP:R then you must have loved their other work, SKYLINE. Lol or more like crying out loud.

@craigamore: you're right on the money.

[quote]Two things Shadowcaster....One, I totally agree with your assesment about how the AVP movies tried to make themselves prequels. That really annoyed me. Two, in reference to the number of xenos in both the graphic and prose novelizations of AVP, the colonists of that particular planet raised a species of mammal called Rhynth, I think, not sure on that name, for sale as meat stock. There were even references to the quality of Rhynth steak in those stories. The point I'm driving at is that, in the comics, ranchers begin to find corpses of their Rhynth with, get this...massive holes in their bodies...i.e. from chestbursters. The story makes it very clear in that regard and it goes even further. The aliens infest a transport ship that is loaded full of an enitre herd of Rhynth that were meant to be shipped off world, hence the hundreds of xenos that followed. [/quote] Oh Craigamore, no no you had my question wrong. I was not talking about the one that takes place in the future with Machiko Naguchi as the main character, that one made total sence. I love that novel, I have read it several times. Steven and Stephani Perry are excellent sci-fi writers!! I was talking about the AVP movie and AVP movie novel. The xeno numbers were totally off in the film and the novel version of the film and was never explained lol. Sorry that you misunderstood my thought, but thanks for trying to clarify!!

I love both franchises and own both AVPs on Blu Ray since they were released. Although both have horrible acting I'd have to say I enjoy AVP-R more as the acting is all I have to complain about with that one. I remember being disappointed after watching AVP; maybe I was expecting more having waited so long for it to finally be realized and actually made into a film. I didn't mind the teaming up of the Pred and Human in the first one ( as we could expect that based on the Predator mytho), however it felt forced and didn't seem to fit right. As if anyone in the theater watching needed to be told "The enemy of my enemy is my enemy" and the whole prisoner guard analogy to explain to us why further on in the plot the Predator will team up with the human and not kill her. We certainly didn't need an explanation as to why the Pred threw Bishop to the side and turned his back on him. In AVPR they pretty much gave us one kickass Predator and the Aliens version of the alien which I was happy with, but I know some others would have preferred to see the more durable alien as has been stated, however they did make the predaliens dome translucent with a visible skull underneath in a nod to the original Alien.

i will agree with you that ALIEN and "Aliens" are entirely different films in their tone, but if i need to re-explain myself regarding the similarities and plot points that Cameron xeroxed with his own brand of plagiarist' cheap ink - - then you didn't really understand my point, and repeating it would only be redundant (which seems to have just happened) Sigourney Weaver was nominated for "Aliens", but sadly she did not win, so your fact checking in that regard leaves something to be desired. Wiki her. "elitist snob" is a title i'm perfectly happy to own, and it's accurate ESPECIALLY when it comes to appreciating ALIEN - - and critiquing "Aliens" there is nothing wrong with a great shoot-em-up action flick, i just wish that Cameron would have at least tried to be original in his story telling but ALL the lawsuits that have followed him, and continue to follow him validate my point effortlessly @craigamore: you're welcome, anytime =)

Aliens was great and I really like the film mostly for nostalgic reasons as my older sister totally took me as a little kid to an R rated movie without my parents knowing lol, and since that time my sister has been the coolest in my eyes. But upon eventually watching Alien as an adult, I discovered that Ridley's film was and still is a classic and given the true test of time, now does stand above Aliens IMO. Some of my examples of why Aliens isn't as strong a film as Alien I've discussed in the "Am I the Only One" thread. Some of the design choices made in Aliens I feel don't have as much impact as Alien. And when considering how powerful and intelligent Ridley portrays the first xeno in Alien, it sort of makes me disappointed that the xenos in Alien including the Queen weren't nearly as cunning as the first xeno. Especially taking into consideration that the first xeno was only a day or so old and was smart enough to sneak into the shuttle craft! Yet the xenos in Aliens had been thriving for at least weeks or how ever long Newt had been hiding. Again I really like Aliens and it was a great film, but just not as powerful overall as Alien IMO.