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[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/articles/4]the ship is named prometheus[/url]

of course there are no proof that start from the "goo" thing from the comic con video , but we are not sure its goo ( on david finger and inside the helmet of a dyng human ). Also there are many shoots on people in cryosleep or being exhaminated ...then this thing of the black eyes from the trailer . But of course can be all fake or wrongly interpretated . also the jars with inside a green or grey goo may lead to dna speculation .

Its merely a theory. If you trawl back through some of the older topics on this site, I think you'll find the ideas inception. Its a cool theory though :)

There was also the one leaked screenshot from the comic con footage (a weird looking thing with long legs) that some have speculated is a transformed, or partially transformed Charlize Theron. I don't really know what it is, it's hard to tell, imho it looks somewhat like the supposedly leaked concept art showing the Jockey under the suit. A tall, bendy-legged, humanoid deer thing... If that's the case it could be Theron transforming into a Jockey, or just a Jockey without a suit. Then a lot of the transformation talk would just be us fans spit-balling. Still, I think the talk about the black eyes is what's getting people thinking about this theory again. Dark eyes=infected sort of thing. And chestbursting is too predictable, Facehuggers aren’t in the movie. Plus we've seen that all before. Even if morphing is included it has to be much more complicated. . It’d work ok the first time when we don't know something's going to happen. Like the chestburster scene in Alien. A couple times within a film maybe, but that’s it. Too many chestbursts/transformations would start to lose effect. And we’d run out of movie time/characters if everyone met their end that way. Also sounding like a number of crew members were seen with black eyes, leading me to believe not all would undergo a transformation process, at least not at the same rate. We'd know beforehand who’s going to change by their eyes, or at least catch on very quickly and it'll be predictable. Something more complicated than carrying the xeno has got to be going on with the black eyes. At least eventually. My gut tells me they're possessed, and possibly under control by the Jockies, but I can't say for sure that it doesn't mean they aren't also "infected" in another way. If Xenos, or a proto-xeno are in this: a slower grotesque transformation might shake things up a little, but it's the same thing ultimately, and there would have to be more to it. Otherwise it’s too much of a retread: crewmember gets infected, and produces alien. Only in a different way. It wouldn’t fly the whole movie imho. There has to be more if something like this happens. I think this film will focus heavily on androids/technology, or “robots” this go around (Lindelof hinted as much). Maybe even some backstory about how the company developed them. Man’s creation. Made in our own image. We are there gods and engineers. We're playing god... It would have been quite an accomplishment when they were made. Sweat like humans, behave mainly like humans. But they're programmable. Able to be modified. Designed to serve us or to have a semblance of life of their own? I would even venture a guess that androids have just been created or are top secret in Prometheus' timeline. And that they still rely on a lot of human bio material to create them, at least one of them. There’s probably multiple reasons there will be more than one synthetic in Prometheus, but we don’t know for sure yet. I predict one will be more like a cyborg, one more like an android. Instead of the obvious one good, one working for the company idea. Think of the cyborg as a proto-android, that may not know they’re part synthetic ( like Blade Runner director’s cut) only this will take a more front and center place in the end of the movie. This leads to questions about gods and playing god, creators and engineers, terra formers and designers. World builders, and spacefarers. Freewill, and questions about life in the case of the “robots”. And particularly, if characters are controlled/possessed by the the telepathic powers of the Jocky.

i can just add 3 things about your interesting thoughts 1) Ridley will do a prequel to Bladerunner too , so i think he will not dig too deeply into replicants questions ... otherwise he will invade bladerunner fields . 2) i cant stand the "possession" things in any kind of sauce ... its something that dont scare me and i hope we will not fail in the psychological/entity triller , i want deep pure horror 3) if we go too much in the creation phisolopy , in the replicants humanity , in the scientific geez department i FEAR that the movie will become a script exercise without any kind of soul ..a bit like Inception and Gattaca ( 2 movie with good reviews but that i hate )

The Alien in the first movie does have human form so it can be thought that the Alien came from something, a a cross mix of something..which made it a pretty hostile organism , one that can not be controlled mentally or through physical taming.

I know which pictures you're talking about. This one (just one): [img]http://www.xenotron.com/prom-1.jpg[/img] There's no mutation going on in that picture. It's a half-naked girl falling forward. That's it. Her knees are in front of her feet and her arms are getting ready to break her fall. Whoever it is, is probably this person: [img]http://www.xenotron.com/prom-2.jpg[/img] Which looks to be Noomi Rapace (I recognize those breasts). The description of black eyes from Chris didn't mention anyone with black eyes, just black eyes in general. That does not mean anyone mutates. Even if a human has black eyes, that could imply other things, like mind-control. So, I beg the question again, why do we assume that someone mutates? I propose that no one mutates in the movie and that's not what the film is about. The only time I read about mutation is on this board. I think people are going with rumors after one person's erroneous interpretation of a picture rather than facts. Let's let go of the hype and hysteria and take a step back at what we know for certain without running with hair-brained, unsupported ideas.

Hey its to get fun ...everyone get fun tryng to immagine whay will happen ... otherwise we wait 6 months playng cards ... we have no facts !! and everything can be erroneous ! i never endorsed the mutation thing but if the people see it what is wrong ?? we are not talking of science ..is a movie .

All we know that is fact so far is [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/articles/4]This[/url] The pics from comic con The current Synopsis and the recently deleted trailer comments from Chris. everything else is speculation and/or theory.

Exactly, which is why I'm trying to get the whole mutation theory out of everyone's heads by exposing it for what it is: just a dumb theory with no evidence backing it up. I want us to move on from it so we can clear our minds for a more probable plot to the story.

All I know and All I only really wanted to know till I see the film, is that one.... THERE ARE XENOS, and two Space Jockeys

then xenotron do your plot and we will see who goes more close to the truth :) im curious to read yours :) predalien ..why 2 space jockeys :D and not 3 ?? :D

What if they, the humans are tricked into going there by the Jockey's? A signal is sent or something is left there to be found for the humans?

Hey XT, My reasoning for the transformation is the remarkable semblances humans and the Xenos have. Giger incorporated the upper front portion of a human skull into the original alien skull. You can see the eye sockets thru the translucent skin. Also the Alien should be just as much alien to us as we are to it. If the alien evolved in such a harsh environment as Ash said in the movie it would look nothing like us. The odds of it being exactly proportional to us (minus skulls size, and tail) is staggeringly impossible. Humans are remarkably fragile creatures its our ability to individually learn and manipulate our surroundings that makes us so deadly. Aliens on the other hand aren't fragile, they don't individually manipulate their environment and the learning, I believe would be genetic based over generations, but there are still to many semblances . Maybe opposite sides of the same coin? Just my opinion though. Regards, Rick

This is one of the coolist discussions. I have to say that it would be cool if the humans did mutate into the eggs. I mean ridley scott said that the creatures would do some pretty perverse things and that deleted scene in alien was pretty bizzare also keep in mind that ridley did mention that only the KEEN fan of alien wpuld know how this movie will tie into alien. I could be wrong though.

As far as perverse things go, I have a feeling it may be more along the lines of rape since the original Alien has rape as an underlying theme. I can go into detail if you like. Also, I don't really think that Alien DNA is literally in the movie. I think Scott was being figurative when he said that.

@Frantz I meant it like this 1. There are Xenos 2. Space jockeys!

Interesting, was this written by a fan or allegedly found online?

its a great work RHunter !! 5 stars , but i will be disappointed if that would be the real plot ...things i dont like in your EXCELLENT work 1) it have a clear main character , they will try to avoid that 2) too many things togheter , creation of life , space travel , dna mixture , androids , romance , eroticism , the corporation etc etc i FEAR btw that you will not be far from reality

Again, why are you [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/126]assuming human to alien mutation?[/url] There's no evidence for it anywhere. I'm starting to get a little annoyed by this theory. I wouldn't worry too much about the accuracy of this theory. It's much too specific for something that is currently an enigma wrapped in a mystery. No one knows what the plot entails.

I got the information from IMDB.

Where abouts on IMDB? Its not listed under the Prometheus plot synopsis. Its a pretty cool idea though (bar the bit in Manhattan.)

IMDB is good for future movie cast lists, but be careful with some of the plot synopses. The plot synopsis there contains a lot of speculation and was written by someone named "bjblackmore". Make sure to check your sources.

It was claimed to originate from IMDB where I got it from. It is a cool synopses when you relate some key points to the Prometheus stills from Comic Con. Like I asked myself why in the pics did the SJ planet or civilization look in one pick like ruins, and in others crew members are carrying flash lights around like the place had been vacated. You think SJ advanced civilization and humans land without contact and snoop with flash lights, so the worm hole idea going back to the terraforming of earth added up to me from the way things looked visually unless the SJ are hiding out in a savage way but they are scientists and engineers. And we have been told Theron's character Vickers is there for other reasons and as each layer is peeled from her there something else...well maybe she may be a sleeper alien waiting to be activated...lol. The thing I don't get is why would a being that's so capable of being uncivilized and ruthless have a flip side to create us. We as are supposed Gods have an obsession with creation too via robot, replicant. In this Universe a lot makes sense for the fiction of things as disturbing as some of it might be.

I have my personal theories about a ruthless and uncivilized alien race having a flip side and creating us. What if only one of the aliens created us and his name was "Prometheus"? What if the aliens don't agree with each other?

Maybe, maybe not. Too early to go into that much detail.

Trent Reznor with James Horner, of course, I am wishing here but hey, what can you do.

john murphy + underwold ... i love the work they made on Sunshine

Good choices too! I would imagine a theme that is fantastic, mysterious and down right Hitchcock..where the music will aid in the scare factor...

Trailer for Prometheus with The Thing????????

It's possible- with all the talk about someone in the crew being transformed, and the info about the grey/green matter that some have speculated as the cause. I was thinking something like that life cycle might be started again too. I've even had the thought cross my mind that they're resurrecting and merging in elements from one of the unused Alien 3 scripts. If anyone knows which one I'm talking about: I think that we might see a few of the crew become "infected" by the spores(possibly nanotech inside the goo): only they will endure a slower transformation process instead of just peeling out of their skin like the original idea had.

Transforming from human into something else? Probably. Transforming from human into xenomorph eggs (like Alien: Director's Cut)? Most likely not. Transforming from human into xenomorph adults? Possible, but I seriously doubt it.

That would be pretty interesting to see and Ridley building off Alien and thus answering many unanswered questions.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_VnoLyrfdY]This[/url] is the only version I've been able to find. I assume this is the original cut from the film. Its a beautifully creepy sound; I hope they don't change it. Where can I hear the altered version? (Anywhere on the web?)

The version you showed from YouTube is The 2003 Alien directors cut dvd. To listen to how they changed it you need to watch the new Alien blu-ray directors cut either from the box set or single disc and then you'll hear the change. I love the version from the 2003 dvd, it has creep factor x's 10. But the new version just sounds like a sound effect from Starwars. I wonder why Ridley Scott changed it?

Just like George Lucas adding and changing sound in his films...

Yes, they are filming it in 3D. They are [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_%28film%29]filming everything in well-lit sets and then digitally dimming the images[/url] to avoid the dark, murky 2D to 3D transition.

I guess I will not be holding my popcorn and soda in hand, or else I will soil my girl friend when I scream like a girl.

its interesting ... the only problem i see with the crossbreed between humans and something else is that it will "destroy" the description that ash do of it ..they have really nothing of human , they are pure evil , they hunt and reproduct without any remorse or pity . The crossbreed will tone down that description adding a "human part"

Interesting concept. With Giger working along side Scott on Prometheus, I don't see why this couldn't be like what we'll see in the film. Cool painting, thanks for posting that up Xenotron!