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Scot
MemberOvomorph10/3/2011Watching the directors cut on my original Alien Quadrilogy DVD and watching the new Blu-ray box set Alien disc it looks like someone has changed the sound from the distorted backwards sounding Alien talk in the original dvd to a more spacey electrical wavey sound on the new blu-ray. My question to you guys is could Ridley Scott have gone in and replaced the scene's audio with something he wants the Space jockeys voice/sound they make to correspond with the new movie. Please do me a favor and watch both and tell me if they're not the same, I swear they are different and if I'm right it could possibly be a clue to Prometheus. If this has been talked about I'm sorry i'm new here and love the original film.
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Frantz
MemberOvomorph10/3/2011im reading everywhere that no one like the new signal sound . I think they will be quite stupid to use it in the movie . Btw is also true that the old signal is good ( and scary ) for a few seconds ..it sound too much "human" ,imo.

Mentos
MemberOvomorph10/4/2011[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_VnoLyrfdY]This[/url] is the only version I've been able to find. I assume this is the original cut from the film. Its a beautifully creepy sound; I hope they don't change it.
Where can I hear the altered version? (Anywhere on the web?)

Scot
MemberOvomorph10/4/2011The version you showed from YouTube is The 2003 Alien directors cut dvd. To listen to how they changed it you need to watch the new Alien blu-ray directors cut either from the box set or single disc and then you'll hear the change. I love the version from the 2003 dvd, it has creep factor x's 10. But the new version just sounds like a sound effect from Starwars. I wonder why Ridley Scott changed it?

xeno_alpha_07
MemberFacehugger10/5/2011[quote]This is the only version I've been able to find. I assume this is the original cut from the film. Its a beautifully creepy sound; I hope they don't change it.
Where can I hear the altered version? (Anywhere on the web?)[/quote]
That is the original Audio for the alien transmission which was done by Ben burtt (who worked on star wars) Why this was changed for the directors cut i have no idea. I think the original is better. I'll have to compare both the dvd and blu ray scenes later on as i'm curious to see if they have been changed again. I do know that the directors cut for blu ray has had a few audio changes so it might be possible.

xeno_alpha_07
MemberFacehugger10/5/2011OK i've compared both DVD & Blu ray of the alien transmission scene and they are both the same. Only difference really is that the Blu ray version sounds better.

Scot
MemberOvomorph10/5/2011When you compared the audio from the Blu-ray version did you use the DTS master audio soundtrack or the Dolby Digital one? I am going to check to see if maybe the difference is on the fomat being used.

xeno_alpha_07
MemberFacehugger10/5/2011I just just placed the discs in an jumped to the scene. Didn't really check the blu ray sound track to be honest.

Xenotron
MemberOvomorph10/5/2011Blu-ray discs have more sound channels. If you have a surround sound system, you should notice a difference in quality between DVD and Blu-Ray audio. Plus, whoever mixed the audio on the DVD may have just put the sound in its own channel.

xeno_alpha_07
MemberFacehugger10/6/2011True. I don't have a surround system (but want one). From listening to both scenes once again they are the same. Other audio differences i have noticed are in the scene when Lambert confronts Ripley. Dallas' dialogue has been lowered in volume in the blu ray. Before Ash attacks Ripley she radios for Parker and Lambert. In the quadrilogy a sound effect has been added each time she presses the comms button. In the blu ray it has been removed and is back to it's original form. One visual change in the blu ray i have noticed in the directors cut. On the quadrilogy DVD as the crew enter the derelict cgi smoke has been added. On blu ray it's been removed and restored to it's original form.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph10/8/2011I have decided to wait for the "Alien Quintology" Box Set to come out before I answer this.
LOL.

Predatordreads
MemberOvomorph10/8/2011All I can say is this reminds of that time in the 90's when pepsi decided to make pepsi clear, it's like "why?" Because it really was not that good. I really think that the original was so bizzare and xreepy that it was so fitting to when you saw direlect craft and espicially when you saw the space jockey. Thank god that it is nothing like how george lucus ruined episode 4-6 with all the new cgi crap notable the han and greedo confrontation. Everytime I watch it I almost feel like I flunke a test that studied hard for.

arrgy
MemberOvomorph10/23/2011They do sound slightly different. But then again I never believed there even WAS a transmission.
Think about it. According to special order 937 the Nostromo was rerouted to new coordinates to investigate and pick up the new life form. So the company already knew about the Alien, they knew were it was, all they needed was an excuse any excuse to send a crew to LV-426 to get it.
Ahhh a loophole in the contract that states that transmission of an unknown alien origin must be investigated. There is your excuse.
Next, the transmission, according to Ripley, is some "type" of warning. Then that's it, never ever hear of the transmission again until Aliens and the scene where she tells the company they home in on its beacon. Notice in that scene no one acknowledges what she says and they are all kinda stunned about it.
My theory, the company planted some fake signal into Mother. Mother reroutes the ship awakens the crew and lies to Dallas about a fake signal. Interesting, Ash never checks out the signal except to say its the same repeating pattern. The crew now is forced to get the creature. They never find the source of the transmission on the ship, and 57 years later there is no discussion about a signal in Aliens. So what happened to the signal? Did it just shut off?
No folks, there was no signal...it was all created by the company and part of the deception.

Theusprom
MemberOvomorph10/24/2011[b][b]Quote - OK i've compared both DVD & Blu ray of the alien transmission scene and they are both the same. Only difference really is that the Blu ray version sounds better. - Quote[/b][/b][i][/i]
The alternate signal is only on the [u]Director's Cut[/u] of the Bluray, that's why you didn't find any difference.The Bluray has two versions, choose Director's Cut and skip to that scene, it is different.The new "signal" is hopeless compared to the original imho.

xeno_alpha_07
MemberFacehugger10/24/2011I did compare both the DVD & Blu ray versions of the directors cut.

Theusprom
MemberOvomorph10/25/2011Xeno, you need to compare the theatrical version against the director's cut.
Here is the original
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_VnoLyrfdY]Scary[/url]
I cannot find the version that is in the director's cut, but I will have a better look later.
I have no idea why they changed it, the original is very off putting .

Neurion
Veteran MemberMemberOvomorph10/25/2011Seems like just about everybody is in agreement, that the original (Ben Burtt) sound effect for this scene is superior to the one that was subsequently edited into the 2003 Director’s Cut for thearical release and DVD. I happen to agree with that aesthetic opinion. It has a weird sort of…hydro-electronic tonality that (to me) works perfectly with the whole biomechanical pseudo- nature of the Space Jockey and its vessel. As mentioned by another member, the reedited sound effect does sound strikingly similar to one particular sound effect heard in the “STAR WARS” cantina scene. Perhaps, it too is also a Ben Burtt sound design creation. I think that the original sound is far more disturbing and otherworldly though…and therefore, right on the money.
@Arrgy,
I think that’s an interesting idea you have there. I’ve pondered that myself. I suppose that I just prefer the idea that “the Company” (WT) was just as much in the dark about the Alien transmission and situation, as our favorite Space truckers. I like to imagine that the Company was also unable to completely decrypt or decipher the transmission. And that they just didn’t mind putting their employees in harm’s way, if it might mean bigger profits. Wouldn’t be the first time. I like your idea though. I guess this is part of the reason that I hope that the new film doesn’t just explain everything away. I really like the mystery of it all…
~Neurion

xeno_alpha_07
MemberFacehugger10/26/2011[b]@Theusprom[/b]
[quote][b]Xeno, you need to compare the theatrical version against the director's cut.
Here is the original
Scary
I cannot find the version that is in the director's cut, but I will have a better look later.
I have no idea why they changed it, the original is very off putting[/b] .[/quote]
I know, the version you posted is the original raw deleted scene. The only version of this scene re-edited and put back in the film is the 2003 directors cut which they changed the transmission sound itself.
[quote][b]Seems like just about everybody is in agreement, that the original (Ben Burtt) sound effect for this scene is superior to the one that was subsequently edited into the 2003 Director’s Cut for thearical release and DVD. I happen to agree with that aesthetic opinion. It has a weird sort of…hydro-electronic tonality that (to me) works perfectly with the whole biomechanical pseudo- nature of the Space Jockey and its vessel[/b][/quote]
I agree, the original Ben Burtt verison fits completely.

Sophie0413
MemberOvomorph10/26/2011of course there was what the company homed in on in the first place, also in the novel, Dallas turns it off.
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