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Well as far as the prequel thing is concerned if the space jockey technology incorporates time travel through wormholes it won't matter if its a prequel or sequel. Looking forward to seeing the space jockey universe and future human universe collide. Two things I am wondering is if they will treat the aliens like bugs on a bug hunt and if the derelict structure is part factory and not an infestation. Everybody is going to go nuts when the trailer comes out, even if there are no Predators.

The alien represents a bio-morphic cybernetic creature that comes straight from human hell and nightmares of snakes and scorpions. The result of technological evolution in biology, ideals and spiritually. This universe is immense, perverse, surreal and beyond mere logic. The creature is not a mere bug, or an infestation. It is a product of manufacturing life from life. Questioning the boundary of technological choas and order. Sanity and Madness! Maybe something like the Borg being assimilated by other alien species technology but the collective becoming a hierarchy in spirits/species in symbiosis with the technology.

Sure! why not have acid blood and extra jaws? in fact, they should have those elements with many different species and expand on it's horrid parasitic technology, deal with the subject of symbiosis without turning them into bugs. Ultimately, the creatures should embody the essence of Ashes final words regarding the alien..

Hey Ruhaniya, You have in my opinion, many interesting and thoughtful ideas and extrapolations regarding the ALIEN universe. I'm sorry to read that your suffering from Kidney Disease. As you mentioned the Hellish nature of the Alien organisms...I found your concepts to be fairly unique. I myself have had similar ideas about the subject. Anyhoo...as believer in an actual Hell...I respectively believe in the opposite of Hell. I will pray to He who dwells there, for your healing, and an end to your suffering from your affliction. By the way...I checked out your art at Deviant...Very cool. I do a lot of graphic art myself...my avatar is one of mine from 1985. What do you think? Peace, Neurion P.S. You Scare Me.

"ya- rrright!?"

The essence of space jockey is one of serving a higher purpose without choice or will power cause it's plugged in bad. That's why it's got tubes on their backs and tails like dinosaurs cause they were before man as reptilians. That is all we are! locked in a Pandoras Box like our cosmic bionic Kamakazi Commando THE SPACE JOCKEY

"ya- rrright!?"

Thanks for that Praetorian, but I don't think you need an alien in there! Just my opinion of course, (and being a graphic designer I am bound to have a critical eye!) I'd prefer to keep the mystery!

Hey Praetorion, Thanks for the cool wallpaper image! Although...I'm forced to agree with Jonesy the Cat, I would prefer the image without the Alien creature included. It looks a little forced. Like "they" say sometimes, "Less is more." I've just always loved that Derelict vessel and planetoid design so much. I think that the image would be more classy, simple, and mysterious, without the creature. Ya know, when ever I see the image of the Derelict ship from the original film...I can virtually hear the sound of the wind blowing and howling in my mind, sometimes accompanied by Jerry Goldsmith's haunting and atmospheric score. Oh...also, it might be cool to have PROMETHEUS written in the same font as the titles in the original "ALIEN"....even more badass would be some kind of animation that would slowly form or piece the letters together...just like the original. So cool. Sorry about all of my critique. Just some ideas. ~Neurion

[b]UPDATE:[/b] Wallpapers have been updated again, download via the first post to this thread.

Sup...you hep Alien "Cats?" Whatta ya guys think of Ridley Scott's whole implied Prometheus, Gods and Engineers, DNA, dark discovery, irresponsible science thing? Based on that spirit and concept...how about these tag-lines?....to corny?.....to biblical?....to dumb? “…and on the eighth day, Man created his own…ANNIHILATION.” “…and on the eighth day, MAN created LIFE…and his own Destruction.” “On the eighth day, MAN created life…and IT was not good.” ~Neurion

[i]...and on the eight day, God created eight passenger.[/i] hehehe....there you go, Neurion You ask for it....lol

[quote] [i]Sup...you hep Alien "Cats?" Whatta ya guys think of Ridley Scott's whole implied Prometheus, Gods and Engineers, DNA, dark discovery, irresponsible science thing? Based on that spirit and concept...how about these tag-lines?....to corny?.....to biblical?....to dumb? “…and on the eighth day, Man created his own…ANNIHILATION.” “…and on the eighth day, MAN created LIFE…and his own Destruction.” “On the eighth day, MAN created life…and IT was not good.” ~Neurion[/i][/quote] I think it's a good approach. The idea of "PROMETHEUS" being the one to supposedly give man the gift of fire being implemented into this film is quite genius and can be taken in any way the director wants. Prometheus gave man the gift of fire, but fire also proved to be one of the most destructive elements man has ever encountered. It brings light, but also brings death. Using this foundation with the Alien parasite; the Space Jockey's [i]could[/i] be like the titan Prometheus, allowing man to find the parasite (the fire) and with what the parasite gives man (knowledge), it is also man's worst encounter in all of history. I would not be surprised if that turned out to be a scratchy version of the actual plotline.

Can we have an upadated wallpaper with the new Prometheus logo please!

Absolutely Jonesy! I updated the first post with new desktops! Also added one for smaller moniter users. Click the one to suit your computer resolution size.

Well said...0413, I couldn't agree with you more. Alien 3 had some really interesting concepts and imagery. Alas...it was doomed from the beginning. For starters, I think they should've retired Ripley's jersey after ALIENS. Hadn't she done enough for mankind...and then to kill off sweet little Newt and gentlemanly Marine Hicks in the first few minutes. That PISSED ME OFF! That was cinematically inexcusable. But by then, the Ripley character and the whole "Alien universe" was getting tired and already showing signs of fatigue...and a "stepchild-like" neglect from FOX. It's also partly due to what I call "over development of a character." Nowadays, people often talk about and compare the Ripley character to some of the “feministy” or the unrealistically warrior type heroines in more current films. I usually don’t agree with the comparisons, because Ripley was not really pushy or unrealistic in her physical prowess. Even in ALIENS, where she really started getting the reputation of an ass kicker, she didn’t want to be there…and when she finally does swing into action, it’s to save others…especially Newt…who was reminiscent of her own daughter. I really liked her character in ALIEN and ALIENS…less in Alien 3…and Resurrection just about killed it. ~Neurion

Well said...0413, I couldn't agree with you more. Alien 3 had some really interesting concepts and imagery. Alas...it was doomed from the beginning. For starters, I think they should've retired Ripley's jersey after ALIENS. Hadn't she done enough for mankind...and then to kill off sweet little Newt and gentlemanly Marine Hicks in the first few minutes. That PISSED ME OFF! That was cinematically inexcusable. But by then, the Ripley character and the whole "Alien universe" was getting tired and already showing signs of fatigue...and a "stepchild-like" neglect from FOX. It's also partly due to what I call "over development of a character." Nowadays, people often talk about and compare the Ripley character to some of the “feministy” or the unrealistically warrior type heroines in more current films. I usually don’t agree with the comparisons, because Ripley was not really pushy or unrealistic in her physical prowess. Even in ALIENS, where she really started getting the reputation of an ass kicker, she didn’t want to be there…and when she finally does swing into action, it’s to save others…especially Newt…who was reminiscent of her own daughter. I really liked her character in ALIEN and ALIENS…less in Alien 3…and Resurrection just about killed it. ~Neurion

"Nothing Will Prepare Us" ?

That's a good one Zeta, I notice a lot of fans are going with the "In Space..." beginning. I wonder if they will make the title a somehwat run off of that as a kind of tribute to the first Alien film... ?

I agree, it's quite a range of cast, but a well chosen range. I think everyone will preform amazingly.

Hey Sophie's Dad, Sorry about the misnomer. Next time I'll just call you "0413"...or how 'bout "Space Junky"...little play on words there :-). As far as pre-Nostromo, company vessels...I think "Necronome" may be referring to something other than the ships we've mentioned. Trouble for me is...I'm such a tight ass when it comes to ALIEN, that I really don't include any of the sequel films as part of the ALIEN Canon...for me personally. As much as I love the film "ALIENS", when James Cameron brought in the queen concept and altered the Alien's appearance, habits, and life cycle...it branched into another type of story for me, a cousin or kindred to ALIEN perhaps, but not brother. Over the years, I've just sort of imagined or rationalized that the sequels were all just some kind of nightmares that Ripley has been having in hypersleep. I know that's sad...but except for ALIENS, the sequels have been very weak. For me, ALIEN is like THE EXORCIST...a great, dramatic film, that just happens to be scary as hell. THE EXORCIST also suffers from weak or terrible sequels. Both are generally classier franchises than most Science Fiction or Horror flicks...but let's face it, they're getting dangerouly close to Freddy, Jason and Pinhead territory. ~Neurion

Hey Sophie's Dad, Sorry about the misnomer. Next time I'll just call you "0413"...or how 'bout "Space Junky" instead of Jockey...little play on words :-). As far as pre-Nostromo, company vessels...I think "Necronome" may be referring to something other than the ships we've mentioned. Trouble for me is...I'm such a tight ass when it comes to ALIEN, that I really don't include any of the sequel films as part of the ALIEN Canon...for me personally. As much as I love the film "ALIENS", when James Cameron brought in the queen concept and altered the Alien's appearance, habits, and life cycle...it branched into another type of story for me, a cousin or kindred to ALIEN perhaps, but not brother. Over the years, I've just sort of imagined or rationalized that the sequels were all just some kind of nightmares that Ripley has been having in hypersleep. I know that's sad...but except for ALIENS, the sequels have been very weak. For me, ALIEN is like THE EXORCIST...a great, dramatic film, that just happens to be scary as hell. THE EXORCIST also suffers from weak or terrible sequels. Both are generally classier franchises than most Science Fiction or Horror flicks...but let's face it, they're getting dangerouly close to Freddy, Jason and Pinhead territory. ~Neurion

0413 sounds good!! anyhoo the sequels for me anyway... Aliens; good action adventure story, cool tech but the aliens for me feel a bit short. Alien 3 ; a missed opportunity, as we have seen, Fincher is not a bad director, i feel Fox strangled that movie. Alien Resurrection; another missed opportunity as the director is actually good, once again i think Fox are to blame also the aliens again . no justice to the source material as in Giger not consulted enough on design, and the newborn was frankly ridiculous. I mean the cast in all movies are exceptional at their craft, the fx crews professionals but some thing came loose in the execution.

Updated first post...

hey guys! first post !! i have read some where that Ridley says the alien shape has been "overused" and something new will be done for the new movie, the "d.n.a." as he says will be present in the design, personally i think this will be great especially as Giger will be onboard as consultant. on a seperate issue does anyone know what Dallas whispers to himself in the airducts? this has bugged me for years!!! Thanks!!

It is common knowledge, that the Nostromo, was NOT!, the first Weyland Yutani ship to get an Alien on board. There was another company vessel that had one before!. And contrary to what you might think, Promethius was NOT the name of that first vessel, but I suspect it was the project name, that Weyland Yutani gave to the Alien, as a project for the bio-weapon. Alien 1, was all 'really' about which speices was higher up the evolutionary ladder, Alien?, or Human?. Aliens, was an experiement, to clearly prove one abouve the other!, in a safe place, away from earth. More to evaulate the threat to earth, that to evaluate the potential as a weapon. I would have written this story 1000 times better than they ever could have!, there is not enough sub-plot to warrent an entire film, you need a sideways step to it. If anyone would have listened to me?, I would certainly expose the plot to use the alien as a weapon in full in a prequel, the whole Nostromo, and Hadleys Hope thing laid bare, and then destroy the alien race, in an early planet shift, plunging LV426 into volcanic meltdown, and amoung other twists, make the space jockeys gentle saviors, trying to kill the necronome (the Aliens). And protect everyone, but who the fuck asks me!, everyone likes my ideas, and falls in love with them, everyone tells me "you should send these ideas off!", everyone goes nuts for my writing, a whole room held by my every word. Ridley Scott should ask me man!. This idea of corporate subdifuge to obtain a clear picture of the Alien plot, hasn't got enough meat on its bones to warrent an entire prequal movie, we;ve seen all this stuff already man, 30 years ago, it needs an entire twin story, like I have in mind, something totally fresh, to give it enough substance. This Alien prequel isn't nearly enough on its own!, we've seen all of that stuff before!, 30 years ago before, it needs something entirely new to add to it, something that would change the way people saw the Alien films after it forever, like 'my' idea for the prequel movie. But the important ones never listen!. They steal my ideas!, agian and again, put them into mass production, best selleing lines they've ever had, blah, blah, blah, but never really listen man. life SUCKS!.

It is common knowledge, that the Nostromo, was NOT!, the first Weyland Yutani ship to get an Alien on board. There was another company vessel that had one before!. And contrary to what you might think, Promethius was NOT the name of that first vessel, but I suspect it was the project name, that Weyland Yutani gave to the Alien, as a project for the bio-weapon. Alien 1, was all 'really' about which speices was higher up the evolutionary ladder, Alien?, or Human?. Aliens, was an experiement, to clearly prove one abouve the other!, in a safe place, away from earth. More to evaulate the threat to earth, that to evaluate the potential as a weapon. I would have written this story 1000 times better than they ever could have!, there is not enough sub-plot to warrent an entire film, you need a sideways step to it. If anyone would have listened to me?, I would certainly expose the plot to use the alien as a weapon in full in a prequel, the whole Nostromo, and Hadleys Hope thing laid bare, and then destroy the alien race, in an early planet shift, plunging LV426 into volcanic meltdown, and amoung other twists, make the space jockeys gentle saviors, trying to kill the necronome (the Aliens). And protect everyone, but who the fuck asks me!, everyone likes my ideas, and falls in love with them, everyone tells me "you should send these ideas off!", everyone goes nuts for my writing, a whole room held by my every word. Ridley Scott should ask me man!. This idea of corporate subdifuge to obtain a clear picture of the Alien plot, hasn't got enough meat on its bones to warrent an entire prequal movie, we;ve seen all this stuff already man, 30 years ago, it needs an entire twin story, like I have in mind, something totally fresh, to give it enough substance. This Alien prequel isn't nearly enough on its own!, we've seen all of that stuff before!, 30 years ago before, it needs something entirely new to add to it, something that would change the way people saw the Alien films after it forever, like 'my' idea for the prequel movie. But the important ones never listen!. They steal my ideas!, agian and again, put them into mass production, best selleing lines they've ever had, blah, blah, blah, but never really listen man. life SUCKS!.

Hi Sophie, I'm pretty sure that in the airduct scene, Dallas is thinking aloud...and says to himself, "Get a hold of yourself." I think you're right about the DNA thing. My guess is that the creature design(s) in PROMETHEUS will have Giger's style and a retro-ALIENesque appearance. Welcome to the wonderous world of Oooooooowhoooooohooooo...PROMETHEUS-MOVIE.COM. Or as I'm hoping the film will be...ALIEN: BIGGER, LONGER, AND UNCUT! ~Neurion

thanks neurion just to clear it up sophie is the name of my daughter i'm a 42 year old father of two!!! mix up on the name front, anyhoo i'm so excited about this new movie and the viel of secrecy surrounding it is the best thing for the movie, just like he did with the first one, and thanks for the welcome!!

Wow…Necronome came out swingin’! Yeah…I think you’ve got some pretty good ideas. However, it was never confirmed that “The Company” wanted the ALIEN for the Bio-weapons Division. Ripley just said that that was all she could “think”…or figure. Seems to me that the company didn’t know exactly what the hell they were dealing with…except for what Ash was communicating to them (which I’m sure would’ve been substantial). Proof of the existence of extra-terrestrial life would’ve been pretty big, and a feather in the company’s “cap” in and unto itself. Anyhoo…to which pre-Nostromo, Weyland Yutani vessel are you referring? Are you talkin’ about the “SNARK” or “LEVIATHAN” ships from O’Bannon’s earlier drafts? Or perhaps Ridley Scott or Dan O’Bannon’s character profile notes? ALL OTHER PRIORITIES ARE RESINDED…Neurion

there was mention in an early draft of an earth vessel on the planetoid that is discovered by the Nostromo crew, i think snark and leviathan were suggested names for what was to become the Nostromo.

in the book alien, the alien breaks into the storage area and eats some of the food, it could be assumed that is how it got so big so fast..maybe, because in the book they torched the storage room ...and all the remaining supplies. i do agree that it should not be explained too much.

It has been suggested that the space jockey is actually a suit and a creature is within

Your all bonkers!. Didn't you see the special features on the Alien laser disc?. Right!, the space jockey was all about saving money in the origonal filming of Alien. In the origonal script, there was a derilict alien ship, the whole crew of which had been exploded from the inside, leaving a warning beacon behind them about what happend, and a ruined alien temple, indiginouse to the people of LV426, based on a religion of brutal violence, where the eggs were all laid. To save money, ridley scott merged the two concepts, of the alien ship, savaged by the alien eggs, and the alien temple into one, single (confusing!) thing. The space jockeys are not a superior species, they are hapless victims, that never origonally had the eggs on board at all!, the egg chamber on board, is purely the merging of the temple and the ship together to save money!.

necromone the space jockey was nearley cut because it would cost TOO MUCH Ridley had to persevere with the suits at fox to get it in, and a good thing too, also in the original script there was supposed to be an earth ship there as well, but Carrol and Giler cut the script up and added the subplot with ash. they did that with the script NOT Ridley

In space, [i]something[/i] can hear you scream

Again I think we all have to trust Ridley Scotts`vision and film-making maturity on this one. Lets not forget that she`s a wonderful actress with dynamism (Monster, The Road) she isn`t afraid to take on a role head on. Where as she may be beautiful, I don`t think its a distraction. In "The Road"...she was make up-less and stunning, But she wanted us to Loathe her character...which she pulled off tremendously in her short screen time. I just saw Michael Fassbender in X-Men First Class last night and he was fantastic. So if she can have some dramtic scenes with him, I think this film will me a true masterpiece

Praetorian, you're right about the 'big Aliens' mentioned somewhere. That got me a little concerned too, but they may have meant 'very tall alien beings' (Jockeys'?) who knows? I really don't want to see supersized Giger denizens, size does not really matter in this instance. The only size aspect I want to see is some aspect of a planet or interior environment to create a sense of dread and foreboding a la the 'Necronomicon.'

I'd rather think of them as superior creators and progenitors completely devoid of mere emotion, suffering or even ecstasy in their pursuit of whatever they do. These 'human' aspects would merely hinder their 'scheme of things'. Neither good nor evil but something absolutley neutral letting NOTHING stand between them and their purpose. This is just ONE impression I get from that standalone image of him/her in the chair in Alien - the image is that powerful, mysterious and eerie and speaks silent volumes.