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"We'd better get back, cause it'll be dark soon. And they mostly come at night, mostly."- Newt, Aliens

"Get to the choppa!"- Dutch, Predator

"You are one ugly motha fucka" Major Alan Dutch Schaefer, PREDATOR (1987)

"How do I get out of this chicken shit outfit?" Private First Class Bill Hudson, ALIENS (1986)

I also forgot to mention there are more advanced forms of the later Queen Stage and sometimes a Queen doesn't need to molt from a Praetorian.

The Former: A Queen can molt into a stronger subtype called an Empress, which can control the younger Queens. Above the Empress is the Queen Mother who possibly controls all of the xenomorphs.

The Later: A Queen can come from a specialized variant of facehugger called the Royal facehugger. The Royal facehugger can implant at most two hosts, one a queen and the other a regular xenomorph to act as the queen's guardian. Normal facehuggers can only implant one host.

Ovomorph (Stage I), the Royal Facehugger (Stage II), the Queen Chestburster (Stage III), ??? (Stages IV-VI) then Queen (Stage VII). Granted we never see a xenomorph chestburster ever mature to adult hood so this is speculative

Cool Godzilla

Well technically all xenomorphs are like viruses.

The Drone is what you get when a human gets facehugged then later pops out a chestburster which then molts into a Drone.

The Runner is what you get when lets a Dog gets facehugged then later pops out a legged variant of a chestburster called a bambiburster which then molts into a Runner

The Predalien is what you get when a Yautja (Predator) gets facehugged then later pops out a chestburster sporting yautja mandibles which then molts into a Predalien

Xenomorph forms are also called stages, taking the most common xenomorph variant, the Drone as an example.

Ovomorph aka the egg is Stage I, the Facehugger is Stage II, the Chestburster is Stage III, the Drone is Stage IV, the Warrior is Stage V, the Praetorian is Stage VI, and the Queen is Stage VII

The Runner evolution is as followed, a Runner is when a xenomorph infects a quadrupedal host

Ovomorph (Stage I), the Facehugger (Stage II), the bambiburster (Stage III), the Runner (Stage IV), the Sentry (Stage V), the Crusher (Stage VI), and possibly a Queen (Stage VII)

The Predalien evolution

Ovomorph (Stage I), the Facehugger (Stage II), the predalien chestburster (Stage III), the Predalien (Stage IV), ??? (Stage V), the Predalien praetorian (Stage VI), and Predalien Queen (Stage VII)

Some xenomorphs have alternate Stage V and stage VI castes, like the drone can molt into either a Warrior or a Worker. Further more there are additional variants of the praetorian such as the Carrier and the Ravager.

Xenotaris Drones and Runners are kinda like viruses. 

For an example:

Drones and by extension Warriors and Workers are birthed from Human or humanoid hosts.

Runners are birth from small quadrupedal hosts like a Dog

Predaliens are birthed from Yautja (Predators)

Eventually all these body types will lead to a Praetorian or its equivalent before maturing into a Xenomorph Queen.

"Big things have small beginnings."- David, Prometheus

"You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? A perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.
I admire its purity. A survivor. Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality..."- Ash, Alien

"Ash, are you kidding? This thing bled acid. Who knows what it's gonna do when it's dead."- Ripley, Alien

"Ash, that transmission... Mother's deciphered part of it. It doesn't look like an S.O.S. It looks like a warning. I'm gonna go out after them."- Ripley, Alien

"What's the matter? The food aint that bad."-Parker, Alien

"It it bleeds, we can kill it" Major Alan Dutch Schaefer, PREDATOR (1987)

Xenotaris Oh OK

I like the xenomorph's DNA reflex, the ability for the xenomorph to take traits of the host

And also, sorry for using a DNA banner, I couldn't upload an Alien one.

"That's it man, gave over man, Game over!" Private Bill Hudson, ALIENS (1986)

What about Alien isolation and the Aliens versus Predator games or Aliens Fireteam Elite?

I think the Eggs are still in the derelict

Lots of people downvoting this on impulse just because they liked the game, and not bothering to tell us why they disagree with you. I think you make some good points but also nitpick a lot. It seems to me from my personal experience of doing this myself, that you in some way subconciously wanted to find problems with this game going into it. For me that happens when a game is really hyped up and touted as a GotY/classic/etc.

this article is 10 years old

crap your a bot!

Also another thing why is everyone on the alien covenant bandwagon? It's not like its the first alien movie to show the xenomorph's entire body or did everyone forget Alien 3, Resurrection, and AVP?

what's there to the imagination with the xenomorph? We already know what its body looks like by now

I wish this was real.. granted I will be dead before the Prometheus launches on her maiden voyager but i wish I lived in the Alien universe

I wish we lived in the Early Alien Universe

Yeah, Elden is a more recent example from Dark Horse Comics. Why do marvel or rather Marvel fans always assume Marvel did it first? Marvel barely had control over the Alien/Predator Comics IP for 3 years while Dark Horse had the Alien/Predator Comics IP for 32 years. 

I mean it would stand to reason that Dark Horse would have thought of everything dealing with the xenomorphs and yautja way before Marvel would, not to mention Dark Horse's Alien and Predator made more sense than Marvel's nonsense storylines.

Elden as well, to a certain degree. 

https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Elden

Crap I can't edit, I meant to say Marvel stealing Ideas from Dark Horse Comics again and Marvel taking the credit as being the first comic to do everything.

 Make that 26 years prior

Laugh out freaking loud, Marvel at it again plagiarizing themselves as being the first of everything which is a bold lie!

Dark Horse made a xenomorph-android hybrid 20 years prior to Marvel's take in the form of Eloise

https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Eloise

I have a bad feeling that the focus of this TV series will shift the focus from the xenomorphs being the antagonist to being mostly human antagonists (more than likely a cookie cutter rich hypermasculine white male villain) with bare minimum of xenomorphs appearing on screen

Oh thanks

EliteFreakozoid
Actual that's not capitalism, that's corporatism. There is a difference between the two, Capitalism favors competition and dislikes monopolies, Corporatism favors monopolies and dislikes competition. Just a little nitpick.

But yeah, I understand your point about existing lore. But Origin stories are fun though.

Yeah, Prometheus and Covenant both feel like massive wasted potential to me. I don't really have a problem with David creating the Xenomorphs, I have a problem with how that clashes with existing lore. I'm not an expert by any means, but wasn't there artwork of more traditional Xenomorphs in Prometheus where the black goo was being kept? Wouldn't that imply that xenomorphs (or at least very similar creatures) already existed prior to David "creating" them?

Honestly, I could be misremembering. The order of operations for David to have created them feels off. I think a lot of sci-fi properties feel like they have to keep establishing more and more lore, as if that should help their story feel more grounded and believable, when in reality it just leads to messy storytelling. Alien's believability stemmed from characters that felt real in a setting that felt like a natural future. The xenomorphs didn't need to be explained, the space jockey didn't need to be explained, Ash didn't need to be explained, and Weyland was fine to be a capitalist company that makes money by exploiting workers at any cost. As soon as you start dragging all of those things into higher-concept sci-fi, the cracks start to appear. It's obvious that the lore introduced in Prometheus and Covenant wasn't always a part of the story, just stuff they're adding on now because they think it's cool with little regard for how it reflects on the existing canon.

Dark Nebula

Yeah, If only Alan Dean Foster wrote the screenplay to Alien 3, the movie would have definitely been on Tier A

I like alien 3 for what it is. The runner alien was a nice addition to the lore. I'm not a fan of killing off Newt and Hicks at the very beginning. 
Alan Dean Foster wasn't a fan of it either, so while writing his novelization of Alien 3 he wanted to keep Newt alive, but have her trapped in her damaged capsule that can go off at any time, and Ripley would have to fight to remain alive in order to sustain her. He also wanted other things for his adaptation to differ from the film, such as giving each prisoner a backstory, but the film producers rejected all of his planned material and told him to stay close to the film script and wasn't allowed to alter the storyline.
If only the film was like this.

Killing Newt was a bummer. I should say I still enjoy the movie, just not as much as the others I put above it.

Xenotaris, I dont think david creating the necromorphs is peoples main problem with that movie. I don't mind that at all. David is the best part of that movie. I also like the neomorphs too honestly. The problem is the movie completely undercuts the ending of prometheus by killing off the inhabitants of the space jockey home world and therefore not answering any of the fun questions prometheus set up and also making david a weird genocidal maniac, which I felt messes up his arc from prometheus. the characters are also extremely generic and uninteresting other than david himself. I feel like prometheus got made fun of because of some valid reasons, and some very dumb reasons so ridley scott totally abandoned everything that made it interesting for Covenant and ended up taking away almost everything that made Prometheus interesting. 

Cutie Hugsploder

Its okay. Alien 3 had alot of things going for it, mostly atmosphere and a sick new Alien design. Unfortunately my only beef with Alien 3 is them killing off Newt and Hicks then later Ripley.

the puppet is practical but the composite isn't. I know its not cgi. I was using the term improperly. 

Cutie Hugsploder

But Puppetry IS a Practical Effect along with man-in-a-suit, animatronic, stop-motion and go motion. CGI means Computer Generated Imagery