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You know what could've made this song very effective? Imagine the end of the song fading out with David saying 

LOOK AT MY WORKS YE MIGHTY AND DESPAIR 

And then we hear a very powerful and scary Xenomorph scream 

Am I still considered helminthophobic if I've got no fear of a few earthworms, caterpillars, centipedes, etc., but only when they gather en masse I lose my sh*t?

Call replies with caution and concern in her voice, like she's afraid to hurt this... person... she sees, "Ellen Ripley died two hundred years ago."  Call's eyes quickly study this... Ripleys' face to try and understand her emotions before Ripley has a chance to speak, or lie for that matter.  Ripley's face remains calm and confident with her answer, but than, as reality sets after a few breathes, Riple's vision disappears and her memories recollect in her mind as she unfocuses and thinks.  She's confused now.  Something doesn't make sense.

sad news :( 

RIP Harry Dean Stanton.

You're legacy lives on in one of the finest sci-fi films ever made

RIPLEY - Ripley, Ellen, Lieutenant First Class, number 36706

Interesting song. Would be fitting right at the end end with Daniels in the Hypersleep pod and David looking over her. Fade out with the part of the song "Whispers my name"

.....David?

hope you don't mind, I embedded the video for you Woolson :)

Things aren't just making sense and the future looks bleaker than it did before with that alien being out of Ripley's chest and now Ripley, the Ellen Ripley who is back from the dead, is stabbing herself without even a flinch and that blade is smoking! 

Call replies with shock in her face and can't hide her complete interest, "What are you?"  This is something Call has never seen before or even heard of for that matter.  The more Call knows now, the better she can serve to protect. 

My least-regarded critiques of science fiction movies have to do with complaints about believe-ability. Having said that I'm gonna do what I do best, contradict myself and be my own worst enemy by pointing out something that has been bothering me since Prometheus (which I loved by the way): The "engineer" creatures- a "superior species" by David's account, space-jockeying progenitors of the human race and DNA whiz kids, for all their Giger-powered design aesthetic & biotech prowess have a seriously shitty communications, intel and situational awareness model. LV-223 was colonized by a military contingent of engineers 2000 years ago, they made a bioweapon meant for Earth that got loose, everyone on-site died. I guess it's plausible that this was taken as a lesson, maaaybe even enough so to convince them to scrap their plans for Earth- but no salvage operation? No containment?? Not the dumbest human military strategist would leave the most deadly weapon ever created out in the cosmos for the next wandering sentient being to snatch up, along with the ships to transport it and a few trillion space-dollars in terraforming gear. A simple human would, at least, blow it up. Now consider this- how would Earth react if an unresponsive space shuttle that had been missing in the stars for ten years suddenly vectored a landing path on a U.S. airstrip? Would we gather by the thousands underneath it, cheering?? Hell no, we would know about it before it entered our solar system, and pending verbal response, two F-22 Raptor fighters would have met it at the edge of the atmosphere with radar-guided missiles staring down it's tailpipe. I am left to assume these gods, the engineers, had no semblance of wireless communications. A smartphone, a cordless phone, even a walkie-talkie would have simply blown their gigantic minds. Show them the internet, have mercy. While their hypersleep chambers may impress, their comms do not.

Very tough to hear. He was so great.

Thank you for the work Harry Dean Stanton.

i personally like both the cinimasins and wins videos. the sin ones are so rediculous that you know that they are joking. for example, they did a sin video for Citizen kane. 

Same here...just found out from Facebook 

Very sad news. One of my favorite actors :-(

V I N E T I C U M Sorry if I sounded a little bit dismissive. I think exploring the fate of Walter and David might be worthy of a spinoff movie. However, I strongly believe that the Alien franchise needs to go back to form, and that includes limiting the David storyline.

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Great stuff Ingeniero!

Thank you daliens and sherris. My pleasure.

Taking the Covenant ship back down the the surface of Paradise always worked for me because David 8 could then leave in an Engineer ship daliens.

There obviously was an event that knocked the juggernaut out of the sky that David 8 was piloting when he attacked the Engineers.

David 8's juggernaut couldn't be far from the valley that the larger ship landed in (above), the Covenant crew walked to the crashed juggernaut before running to the temple after the neomorph attack.

I still believe (very wishful thinking) that Ridley Scott filmed more in 2016 and captured what happened on Paradise then. Why not?...all the actors are in place, same planet setting, same ship to film the scenario described in the prequel synopsis below.

"The Covenant mission is the most ambitious endeavor in the history of Weyland-Yutani. A ship bound for Origae-6, carrying two thousand colonists beyond the limits of known space, this is make-or-break investment for the corporation—and for the future of all mankind.

Yet there are those who would die to stop the mission. As the colony ship hovers in Earth orbit, several violent events reveal a deadly conspiracy to sabotage the launch. While Captain Jacob Branson and his wife Daniels complete their preparations, security chief Daniel Lopé recruits the final key member of his team. Together they seek to stop the perpetrators before the ship and its passengers can be destroyed.

An original novel by the acclaimed ALAN DEAN FOSTER, author of the groundbreaking Alien novelization, Origins is the official chronicle of the events that led up to Alien: Covenant. It also reveals the world the colonists left behind."

Early Marketing for Alien: Covenant

The above images were marketed with date/time stamps and then we had an idea of the timeline showing how long the Covenant crew was on Paradise. The last image has a date/time stamp for two days after David 8 put Daniels to bed. The medical bay where Lope died is shown without his body in it.

Note: they flubbed the timeline in the early marketing above because the date "December 5, 2104" flashed when showing the Covenant hit in space by charged particles, weeks before arriving on Planet 4.  So, all of the dates should move forward "a few weeks" (around December 25, 2104) to account for travel from where the signal was acquired.

The Covenant crew then made their way to Planet 4 because of Dr. Shaw's signal discovered on December 5, 2104.

So, I believe the above picture was released with the date/time stamp showing a juggernaut two days after David 8 put Tennessee and Daniels into hypersleep with the assumption that the juggernaut is on the planet Paradise. 

David 8's juggernaut and the larger one waiting for him were both downed near the valley. The other Engineer ships underground may not have been affected because they were not in use.

Hi Uncle  daliens     .We have seen that Walter protects Daniels from the attack of the neomorph , but if we are going to see well , Walter is afraid of the creature in fact withdraws , but behind him there is Daniels so the neomorph stands for attach it above a second time , Walter raises the arm to lock it , the neomorph the grab for defense , but does not attack walter him is only an obstacle toward Daniels , the bounces away from its trajectory . Walter is immune to creatures . P.S. when the bell rings we know that it is now .

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"

Android fantasies more like. David was twisted.

Ingenerio - 

Yes the others you mentioned have all done a great job too keeping this fresh. i totally agree !! Respect to u all ;)

It would be amazing indeed, epecially when he would learn to play the flute from the masters.

But there is always the danger that Engineers mistake Walter for David and believe he killed all the population from Paradise. His head would be ripped off and unfortunately for him Shaw cannot help him as she helped David. In case she would ever do that again.

Not sure if Walter will play a part in the future films. He failed in Covenant so I guess no more Walter. David will have somebody else to oppose.

Great addition to the topic Ati. Ridley would love that. I did not know about these horrendously looking ancient creatures.

The water in which the worms were found is between 3,000 and 10,000 years old. The good thing about them is they are small. Even so, "It scared the life out of me when I first saw them moving," said geo-microbiologist Dr Tullis Onstott of Princeton University in New Jersey.

It's good that insects and worms and other such creatures are so small on Earth.

Walter is a character very important , because it embodies the exact opposite indon of David.    joylitt    Do you think that we will not see him again more ? Instead I imagine the contrary , as a flotilla of Engineers reanimate the Android and the exploit as investigation for one who has destroyed , learning to communicate with them , the fathers of humanity as masters . Would this not be amazing ?View it

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"

I found it puzzling that in a saga about surviving an alien lifeform there are still people obsessing over an imagined David/Walter soap opera. Utterly ridiculous.

Android dreams.

sherris I agree, Ingeniero can make an interesting topic even from the Protomorph hindquarters :) and keep this forum alive and fresh.

Thank you so much again Ingeniero for your fruitful efforts.

After wiping out the Engineers David wanted to start over again with Shaw as Eve in a new Eden. What if he did not give up his initial plan? He has a new Eve, actually quite a lot of them.

Ripley holds her palm up, presses its against the blade tip in Call's hand.

RIPLEY - What make you think I would let you do that?

She pushes against the blade, it goes right through her palm and out the other side. The blood smeared blade smokes as the acidic blood in Ripley reacts with the metal. Call stares at her. 

Ingeniero I was looking at that picture featured on another post of yours and I did not figure out what you meant, I did not see the mountains through the window :)

Yiu have the sharpest eyesight and attention for details. How do you do it?

It would be awesome if Covenant lands on Paradise, then the Engineers return and confront David. Does anybody know if they saved the sets built for Covenant, in case they intend to use them again for Awakening?

I personally don't believe it's a goof from Ridley Scott knowing his attention for details.

Call replies with her voice full of sickness, "Those sick bastards." (She has no doubt that Ripley is speaking the truth.  Call's perspective on humans and what they are capable of just sunk as deep as the shaft of the cell Ripley is in.)

She then continues after a guard passes far overhead with sincerity to the person she was so ready to kill in her sleep, "I can make it stop." Call continues to plead, "The pain... this nightmare.  That's all I can offer you." (She's so ready to take the consequences for what these humans, yet not so humane humans, have done.)  

Ripley- Curious. I'm the latest thing...

They might have had an idea for the ship to land, then changed their minds during production?

Interesting video. Just goes to show that with proper presentation, any opinion can be viable! ;) I appreciate the counterpoint of this YouTuber. Too often we're inundated with negativity and cynicism, which often will seep into our own behaviors and personalities... Snark can be cute, but I think it takes real work to look on the bright side without any irony. Despite all the criticism lobbed at Alien Covenant, this fellow shows in spades that it did a lot right! Makes it even more bittersweet that this wasn't the "perfect organism" of a movie.

Ingeniero

I agree with you and your points, you made some really good ones, and have a further observation about tech:

One of the the things I've noticed is so much tech has become so Integrated into our lives, I find I have to stops and really LOOK deliberately to spot it, to find it, to be able to include mention of advances on such regarding a fictional future.
I have a feeling that will simply become more of a challenge as years go on and tech progresses.
And it's a fun little challenge, kinda like 'where's waldo?' but more like 'where's Siri?' :D

I hope Scott will reveal the explanation of the mystery in question.

Helminthophobia... Brrrrrrrr...

The Devil's Worm:

'This worm is able to survive 10,000 feet below us, which allows scientists to nickname it “The Devil’s Worm”. It’s said that it lives so far down, that its existence is a mystery by itself.

It’s not a dangerous worm and it’s also eyeless. Scientists believe that they are the beginning of a new, rich biosphere thousands of feet below. Should we be a little scared?'

Yes, it was suggested that some drawings show David's dreams/nightmares.

I believe the novel will be rich with Engineer content sherris.

Thank you for the kind words above but to clarify, most of my late topics have been responses to: awesome questions from daliens, the online script analysis/documentation from dk, and tech assistance from IRaptus on the embed video. I am certainly excited to discuss Engineer anything with Davefried81 and Lawrence of Arabia. So I go there too.

Yes, Cerulean Blue, I believe the Engineers used tech to control weather, here. Jason Cardona delivered magic here. I don't carry much at all.

I do not remember a single fluff post (all good stuff) from Dark Nebula.

I do appreciate so many of the other topics that have come out during the slow traffic period lately and I didn't want to be disrespectful by not mentioning how I've been motivated by other's questions and comments. And the string of image analysis and collections from Ati.