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1 million less than Prometheus? Damn. Thank god for Blu-ray sales...
The good news is Blu-Ray discs are selling good.
A:C Blu-Ray Sales Chart Run: 1-2-4-5
Source: http://www.homemediamagazine.com/category/hmm/news/research/top-sellers
cuponator3000 and that we will my friend :)
Daszkowski thanks for the share, we've all been hanging on this news.
Go for the steelbook! I just got the walmart blu-ray and enjoy it ,but the steelbook cover looks awesome to have at home!
Not a good turnout at all. Still, it was kind of expected due to the later release date. Box office mojo has worldwide numbers for A.C. at $236 million. I say it might sneak to $240 million with a couple of weeks in Japan. So, it will finish it's theatrical runs disappointingly. It is now up to fans, such as us here on scified, to keep the buzz about Covenant and the franchise!
Call - Ellen Ripley died 200 years ago.
We all know there's behind the scenes stuff maybe it will be re released on an extended cut. That if fox lets him why he can't be left to make the movies he want without them sticking their noses in is beyond me he even says about in the commentary
i know that was such an enjoyable part of the BR and gave us some hints and clues to build on. A very enjoyable purchase was Prometheus BR.
Steelbook should be fine then i reckon !! Thanks
It should have the David video on the steel book blu ray only thing I am not happy about is no behind the scenes doc like prom had
I thought the special effects in Covenant were some of the best and while I love practical the CGI looked better than what a man in a suit would bring to the table unfortunately. You can just do so much more like having a Xeno grow on-screen or any of the action scenes. It may look 'fake' at times but not anymore so than practical. I'm glad though that Ridley used practical on set for the actors.
http://www.scified.com/member/32205 interesting especially in the final part. we can believe that RS has stated in an interview that David ended Walter because he exploited the naivety of his brother, then took its appearance with some remodeling here and there, including clothing (as already discussed in other topics) a perfect camouflage ! (personally I think a chef does not reveal his original recipe so as to surprise when he is satisfied) the question is: daniels would have been so out of touch not to understand in a slight detail that the android in front is David? to see that they are the same I would have had a minimum doubt! Remember that he had stuck in his chin, damaged his head several times! fascinating to see, but also particularly difficult to imitate on the cuts of the face, hand, set hair, voice, having the chance to use a new self-regenerating body would be ideal for child prodigy , I'm proud to have Walter! there is still a mystery as it would transfer the CPU to the subject ... in the future we will understand how
"Au Revoir Shoshanna"
I hope David gets his for what he did to Shaw. I feel badly for Daniels but David killing Shaw is just unforgivable. I remember watching Covenant for the first time in theaters and being so pissed at the end after seeing Shaw vivisected in David's lab. Even if she were to die from an infection from her surgery wound I'd be much more accepting of that than having David presumably strangling her and then experimenting with her insides. I know David "loved" Shaw but at this point I hope if he makes Daniels into a queen that she sticks her tail through his torso and rips him in half a la Bishop in Aliens. >:/
Yeah, CGI was overused, despite all the hype about practical effects, suits etc. I like a lot about this movie – blu-ray coming my way – but CGI monster efx is a let-down. Why not trust your practical efx, Ridley, and use your consummate skill as editor to create genuinely scary images with believable, classy real-world in-camera techniques? Budget was so huge on this that it should’ve been possible. Alien’s first xeno and Aliens’ queen are still the scariest and the best, are indelibly etched on the memory because they are achieved with old-skool movie-making skill. . .
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I spotted this image on one of the Alien facebook pages. Don't know who the artist is but it's pretty awesome!

This continues to look amazing!
I apologize that long there were no news. First demo version with eng. sub. will come out at the end of November.




Spoiler alert!? (Do we need this now?). Walter should have been programmed as a internist, medic, engineer, chemist, biologist, marksman (would be amazing with no pulse or breath to throw a shot...), Krav maga expert, and a linguist. Other stuff is fine, but this is minimum. Walter should have killed David if the fight were not orchestrated as if humans were fighting. Why? He had the upper hand and chose to talk??? Many times there were talking moments??? No, impact the eyes and eliminate the threat... This script was not written by a person who has fought. You don't monologue during a fight. All this being said, after multiple viewings, the most notible scenes involve a flute (fail)! Because it's weird and doesn't fit. I stand by my statement that people on this forum would have made a better movie. Maybe it was an oversight that the Droid at the end didn't have chin damage as David should have had. So if it's David, then Walter was not an effective replacement. If it was Walter with David's upload, then the Walter coders didn't have Norton antivirus software.
CGI quality of alien covenant was inferior to Prometheus. In multiple sequences of the Xenomorph and neomorph, it was obvious CGI as the skin and the movement didn't feel alive but artificial. Would prefer to see the creatures not so obvious and use more suits or animatronics.
The so-called chestburster scene was one of the worst and ridiculous I've seen in the alien franchise.
And Neomorph by TheRisingSoul

Neomorph by VoxelDog from imgur.

I think what David 8 means is that the Engineers got soft and lost touch with the magnificent cruelty they had refined in their past. I also think you nailed it daliens in the explanation below in regards to the idle capability:
"David's inheritance added to the Engineers' direction of biomechanical concerns? Is it like a divine intervention, on and above Engineers' "ultimate maturation", meaning that the Xenomorph is something the Engineers would have never succeeded to create? So David steps in to break the linear evolution and to seal the engineers' fate?
Can this be his statement that the biomechanical Xenomorph design is ready and waiting to be released?"
I believe "ultimate maturation" means to see it through, toss aside nostalgia, and maximize (maturity) the tools available to him (David 8). What David 8 brought to the party was no mercy and a chip on his shoulder for Weyland wanting tea and the Engineer pulling off his head.
The "glorious synthesis" mentioned seems to tend toward that every strength possessed by the Engineers was refined into the xenomorph virus. And that "ultimate maturation" means to let it loose.
Covenant Mission Priority (Phobos)

The above message reads like an order for clinical trials.
out fukn rageous !!
That was unbelievable
Excellent point Timmy the ultramorph regarding Citizen Kane.
Thank you Kethol for the topic and exposure for the "wins".

"Is that pod in the picture of Daniels for sure?, daliens"
No, I'm quite sure the pod below is not Daniels but one of the cryopods (above) lighting up as David 8 entered and spit up his creation.
David 8 put Daniels to be in the crew cryopods/hypersleep chambers in the adjacent room to the rows of the colonists' sleeping.

Below, is a timeline I constructed around the images' date/time stamp for another topic here.

Didn't know...thank you Ati.
Are the Fire and Stone Prometheus comics worth reading?
I have seen where these are cited as canon but that list seems a little fluid.
No RinaRhodon, that sounds like reasonable apprehension.
Ati, the worm looks a little neomorphish. Amazing. We find life just about everywhere we look on Earth. I wonder how far down into the planet life goes. And yes daliens, if the insects and worms were any larger then we wouldn't need horror movies.
A solid actor and a unforgettable character from Alien.
Check out- No small parts: Episode#6-Harry Dean Stanton on youtube.
sherris, I wrote a note (below quote) addressing this on the other topic related to the events on Paradise here. I agree, they flubbed the timeline.
"Note: they flubbed the timeline in the movie because the date "December 5, 2104" flashed when showing the Covenant hit in space by charged particles, weeks before."
I don't think the date/time stamp has anything to do with the order of filming. All of Alien: Covenant was filmed Spring-Summer 2016.
They made a mistake flashing December 5, 2104 before they got to the planet or four mistakes in the date/time images not counting weeks of travel time to get to Paradise from where Dr. Shaw's signal was picked up.
Going by the marketing images with the date/time stamp...the daylight/darkness reconciles with the scenes from Alien: Covenant.
That is why I believe both below images are from December 8, 2104. One, because 20th Century Fox labeled it with a date/time stamp and the view from Daniels window looking over the wheat field.


To summarize, it seems clear they got the date wrong somewhere. So, I reconciled to the image date/time stamps because that seemed to be the intent of the marketing and I believe used to send a message with the December 8, 2104 image.
Ingenerio -
As i stated before these dates IMO are flawed and more to do with order of filming rather than dates on Planet 4.
Here goes, December 5th film starts, crew recieve message. Takes 2 weeks to get to Planet 4 = Dec 19/20. Then the few days on the Planet i think lead to the birth of a certain creature around Dec 25 ish. Havent worked it out completely as i did a few months ago i have not got me notes here.
Very sad news. Will indeed be watching ALIEN myself as well to remember him.
RIP Harry Dean.
Off to watch A l i e n.
Thanks!, yeah after suggesting a Coldplay song that could've been used in promotional materials. I had to step my game up haha.
And Jussie Smollett kind of looks like Kid Cudi for some reason
I remember Tennessee said he put the Mother offline for maintenance until 8:00 and once the Mother was on again she alerted Daniels about the unidentified life form in the medbay. So they got rid of the Protomorph after 8:00 the next day after mission on Paradise. I presume we are talking about 8:00 pm.
Is that pod in the picture of Daniels for sure?
I don't know how long was the day on Paradise or what time they kept on board.
Have to watch the movie again. I can't wait to do that.
If Covenant lands on Paradise it must happen after the end of the storm or the Mother has to be offline again otherwise it would not allow landing as it happened when Tennessee tried to bring the ship as close as possible to the planet and Upworth needed to acknowledge his command.
Interesting...
You're reading too much of our own society into this. We simply don't know enough about how the Engineers and their various factions operate to say how they typically exist or communicate. Rogue outposts, combative factions, ancient orders, segregated classes, crusaders... it's an endless list of possibilities. But reading from our own history, the wildly successful Roman Empire and its numerous outposts and command hierarchy came to a sticky end.
The analogy with a missing space shuttle is false. There is little information to say how often the peasants welcomed returning juggernauts, where they had been, and for what purpose. Or their relation to a scorpion ship.
David, smart robot that he is, can speak Engineer. If he figured out how to operate their comms, he could well have spun them a yarn prior to arrival. Assuming that was even necessary, of course. His ship could have popped out of hyperspace mere seconds before arriving.
Woolson that would've been pretty amazing and chilling!
He is a magnificent artist, and a beautiful soul. RIP Harry Dean Stanton.
I loved Harry Dean, he was unlike anyone else, had his own unique, wonderful style. So real!
I was fortunate enough to see him once at a Ry Cooder concert in Glasgow. It was a delightful surprise and the sight of him in his white suit and hat, singing with Ry is something I will treasure forever.
RIP Harry Dean, even Blondie/Debbie Harry sang about you!
"I want to dance with Harry Dean"
R.I.P., Mr. Stanton. You will always live on (for me) through Alien.




















