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Joylitt:
I agree that David was better in Prometheus, he was straight up evil in AC. He was more gray in Prometheus, which I think was better. They could keep David but keep more attention to the human characters and let them be the important part.
joylitt David has always been that way and his progression in Covenant was natural as he went mad and is free. Michael Fassbender knocked it out of the park and was one of the many saving graces of the film but we are free to our own opinions.
I like David in Prometheus and I pretty much hate him in Alien Covenant. They ruined the character, making him an over the top, self pitying and obnoxious caricature. His portrayal even affects the way I see Michael Fassbender in other movies, and that's not a good sign. Time to terminate David in my opinion.
I'm still convinced that the suit is just the Engineer mutated with the black goo in a controlled enough way that it changes them the way they want to be. Maybe with the correct amount or concoction, Holloway could've ended up like these guys. The suits just seem so organic and almost slimy. along with it fusing with the regular skin at the neck and wrists.
I just read an article where they compare Alien Covenant to Mother! in the way they are both box office poison.
Could be from exiting Oram's body and the heat inside.
Beautiful :D
Lawrence of Arabia: I don't think that it is too late. Sure he will probably have a big role in the next one but his role could be less compared to Prometheus and AC so they cold focus more on the human characters but I understand what you are saying though.
One thing that is interesting is that it is a very polarizing movie so those that support it and those that are against it exaggerate their likes and dislikes. Am I one of the few that thinks that it is a movie that is OK, sort of in the middle?
It's too late at this point to switch focus as David is the only character who ties Prometheus with Covenant and so forth. It would throw off the narrative completely if they switched now. Anyways, that's your opinion and we've already had four films with human leads so it's nice to have something different especially considering he's a villain as well.
How did I miss to reply to this thread? It as toilet humor in it! :D
Lawrence of Arabia: The thing is that I don't want David to be the main focus. I don't care as much about him as I do for the human characters and what they go through (which is what I think that a good movie should be.)
Is is steaming ?
My guess is that it will make less than Prometheus in Japan as well. There hadn't been an alien movie since 1997 when Prometheus was released (not counting the AVP's). Prometheus was a disappointment so my guess is that it will make less in Japan as it as done in other countries this far but we'll see.
My guess is that the Engineers are like the Mayans, or Aztecs, a kind of culture. One possibility is that there were other cities on that planet that were more advanced.
I didn't have a problem with how their buildings looked although they could have been better. Eventually people have a tendency to make up things in their minds and they get disappointed when the result doesn't live up to what they have imagined.
Agronut: I think that they over-did the David thing in Alien Covenant. The next movie needs better human characters because there were no one to root for in AC. They should have had The last supper and Phobos in the movie because it explained the characters better. It was a mistake that they didn't have those. No thanks to another David movie, I didn't like that in Covenant that much even though the movie was alright (2 out of 5 is what I give it).
"I hope that it doesn't mean that we will get more movies focused on AI. I want it focused on well done human characters."
As long as it doesn't shift the focus from David, he's the main character of these prequels. The humans are indispensable and I thought we got some great characters from Danny, Tennessee, and Oram but that's my opinion.
Lawrence of Arabia:
I wouldn't mind seeing more about the Engineers if they manage to make them interesting and make sense as far as the franchise in general is concerned. The potential is there, it is just that they haven't succeeded this far.
The pressure suit and that part of the Xeno seem to have something in common as far as the look is concerned. This is interesting.
Davefried81: Nah, you're not crazy. I see that too
I am not sure but isn't it a bit early to make a judgment after it just has been there for a short time? After all it doesn't seem very surprising to me since Prometheus was a disappointment and this is a sequel to Prometheus. One other problem that it has is that it focuses mostly on AI at the expense of the human characters.
If the Blu-rays are selling somewhat good then it might not be a disaster if AC doesn't do that well in Japan.
"Hopefully FOX lets Ridley continue his work without any more compromises."
I hope that it doesn't mean that we will get more movies focused on AI. I want it focused on well done human characters.
Thanks for the input.
i really can not wait any longer to own this.
it been a long time.... (For the UK anyways Sept. 18 :()
Thank you for answering.
In Town Wednesday steel book will be in my possession
Kethol
On RT the user score is 57. While the amazon scores are divined in 2 for amazon video (2.7) and physichal mediums (3.7). This still remains curios why they don't combine the two (to show the true score of 3.4 - 3.5). In the uk its still at 3.2 in the Uk, 3.2 in France and 2.8 in Germany.Of course this week will be a best seller in those countries. But in all honesty I don't know if it will sale as many units as Prom.
Yes, and it was mentioned previously by one of the members that it is possible that both versions exist during the events of Covenant.
@daliens "Especially after the hate wave and negative reviews"
The reviews by critics on Meta, IMDB, and RT were actually about 70% positive. About the same as Prometheus. Public reviews average around 67% positive, which is also close to Prometheus.
Amazons BR/DVD reviews are always a good after-release determination too. 3.5 out of 5 stars = 70% positive.
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IRaptus - I'm an Auriga-fan. :)
Without doubt, if your house disappears in a hurricane, and you have to save your children and your life during/after a disaster caused by flood, you usually do not visit the nearest theater to watch a movie. That is our apparent Grand Conspiracy…
Wish it did better but overall not too bad. Hopefully FOX lets Ridley continue his work without any more compromises.
I had advent on my blu ray so u should have it it's ace on a big screen and it had a making of wasn't expecting that hope u enjoy it
Hey let me know if "Advent" is on there plz.
Steelbook has Advent?? is the question then ????
4K + Blu-Ray has just arrived in the post. Looks like all the extras are there... Better get Pizza and beers in.
Yeah possibly.I'll check the page i got it from
We all know that there is a Grand Conspiracy against the greatest movie of the year.
Alien Covenant is number one in Japan in spite of threats like typhoon and North Korean rocket launching, so I think is pretty good. I hope the Japanese don't read the imdb reviews and don't watch the youtube media that's full of hatred against Covenant.
http://deadline.com/2017/09/war-for-the-planet-of-the-apes-china-opening-it-movie-spider-man-homecoming-mother-international-box-office-1202171328/
On what do you base your opinion. 2.6 corresponds roughly to 200k viewers (judging from the japanese average ticket price of 12.77 dollars) on 3 days of a country of 127 millions. Does not seem so good to me.
Another example of how poorly Fox planned the release of Alien Covenant: during typhoon season in Japan. Then the 2.6 million is quite something.
CALL - I've read Morse (referring to Morse from Alien 3's contraband novel "Space Beast") - I've read all the banned histories. She gave her life to protect us from the beast. You're not her.
ninXeno426 thats an awesome picture too! Almost could be the same artist you think?
One i found on FB as well....kind find the artist either
