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I just rewatched Alien3 and I came to the conclusion that it is not Michael Bishop in the movie, but another Bishop android. Look at the last picture you posted which shows a closeup of Bishops' face. Look at his left ear (on your right). It is really hanging off of his face. There are many other shots that show this too and some of them are more obvious than the one you posted. I came to the conclusion that it is actually another Bishop android because that Bishop shows no sign of pain even though his whole ear is literally hanging off of his face.
I spent $6 to stream A:C to my TV through my cable company. I wish ticket prices were $6.
The problem with today is that people can illegally stream movies off the internet without really trying at all. It's ridiculous how easy it is to stream movies! Plus now-a-days, people can stream movies to their TV so they don't have to watch a movie on a computer screen and instead can watch it on a big screen with surround sound.
I like it. Denis said it is the first of three short stories, so it sounds like they are doing the same kind of thing Ridley and Fox did with Prometheus and Covenant. It all adds to the richness of the movie story in the end.
At least I hope it will, in the case of BR 2049.
@Ati - "Ok! I see your point. This is my opinion: people, fans, etc over-explain the Holloway infection because of the sexual factor. I strongly believe that the fact that he had sex with Shaw is not so important."
Possibly, but the writers have implied it does have to do with sex. Damon Lindelof said this - "this is what happens when an android gets involved in ‘fertilizing’ something that was invented by The Engineers with a human host which then has sex with another human who gives birth to an offspring that recombines with The Engineer". "Let’s put mankind’s creators, mankind, and the beings mankind created all in the same room together, and have them screw and see what comes out." On the Blu Ray commentary John Spaith's said this right after Shaw and Holloway had sex - "It is interesting to see the alien franchises built in sexualization of menace play out in different fronts...that sexualization, the rape and pregnancy is what makes the monster so scary...you see an alien mutagen become a sexually transmitted disease...the primogenitor chest burster was conceived by the love of a man and a woman."
Ridley said on the Blu Ray commentary that "the union can only be from this - the embryo" - as Shaw and Holloway start to have sex. Later he says "She's pregnant".
"In the mirror scene we see the small trilobite in his eye, and I think that he would have given birth to the bigger trilobite if he had not passed it to Shaw. Do you remember the concept art showing the trilobite bursting out from Holloway?"
Yes, but that was from Spaiths version of the script. He said on the Blu Ray commentary that Holloway was implanted with an alien when he was face hugged in his version. That's what happens in the leaked draft of his script too. That white worm chest burster design evolved into what was used as the trilobite in Lindelofs rewrites, but the intent in Lindelof's rewrites was totally different than Spaiths.
Interestingly, in Lindelof's final draft, there is no eye worm or reference to worms inside Holloway at all. He just looks sick and has a fever. He starts to transform and enlarge just before he was killed, so I think the original idea was that he was mutating in the same manner as Fifield.
The shape change stuff was dropped and the worm stuff was added later to make Holloway's infection different. I don't think the eye worm was intended to be the trilobite Shaw gave birth to either. There is a photo of a makeup test of a late stage Holloway with dozens of those small worms protruding from his face, so I think they were just intended to be parasites resulting from the pathogen infection, but it is all purposely left ambiguous.
Vriess replies, "Call. Forget it. He's been sucking down too much homebrew."
for me the star wars franchise ends after the original trilogy. I don't like any of the episodes after 4,5 and 6 and haven't watched force awakens and have no interest whatso ever to watch any future SW films. give me the star trek franchise any day over star wars with the exception of the latest film which I thought stank. I love how even in the star trek series' such as next generation, voyager etc, the franchise didn't just stick to the same antagonist but it evolved every time.
but bad films in any franchise is common. where the alien franchise is concerned, I 'like' alien3 and AR but im intrigued to see an alternate film to 3. of all the individual films released in the franchises alien stands with the best of them and will stand with them no matter what is released in years to come.
I think the super hero genre is here to stay as there are so many different characters from the comics that can be brought to life but I agree some are starting to get boring. of all the films in that genre, deadpool rocked imo. the problem is we are going to see far too much of certain characters the run the risk of over doing them, in much the same way as to how David is being used in the prequel trilogy here. I think they should reign David in a bit in awakening as to not ruin the character.
Hm, the left side looks "strange". As if melting (mouth and cheek). Android?
Yes.
Alien series is the only one that I like every movie.
Star Trek is close....But less focused....all over the map.
Star Wars...love 'em...but uneven.
Alien series = Space monsters versus humans....simple, elegant. Hard science.
Hopefully he's just working on some fan fic scripts. I need to start mine. Think it would be incredible to have my own alien script completed...good or bad.
Call - Where do you want it?
Call stares at Johner, she is really pissed now
Yep, posted it up on the Blade Runner forums when it released. It looks amazing! New Blade Runner short film by Luke Scott
if we include TV + Movie sci-fi's
FIREFLY
Battlestar Galactica
Stargate(s)
I don't think it's an Easter Egg either.
Star Trek
Alien
Terminator
POT Apes
Matrix
Riddick
I no longer care about SW
Ati I hope so, that would excellent!
Was a similar thread a while back but I'll just do it here
1.Alien
2.Star Wars
3.Star Trek (tbh Wars and Trek are a tie)
4.Terminator
5.Planet Of The Apes
6.Predator
7. Riddick
8.The Matrix
1.Alien(s)
2.Predator(s)
3.Mad Max(s)
4.Terminator(s)
5.Cube(s)
6.Riddicks
7. JPs/JWs
And of the new generation of sci-fi franchises
8. The Maze Runners
^For me it might be the opposite
Awesome! Nexus Dawn. I love its title.
Ingeniero - So many topics by you, it is impossible to consume all of them! :D
MU/TH/UR - Fantastic post! I believe that it is NOT an easter egg!
Ingeniero thanks for the link, I have embedded it into the OP for convenience :)
Here's an example:
Alien
Star Wars
I love Star Wars,James Bond,Star Trek,The Lord of the Rings etc.They just don't compare to Alien for me at least.
CAN YOU COUNT SUCKAS!!!!(Yes i can,and Big Dave is mia lol)
No pain Bishop... I like the version suggesting that he is an android.
drucea - Possible!
TheXenoneoprotomorph - Who knows? :)
VivisectedEngineer - True! The whole image resembles Bishop's dead facehuggers from Aliens - a little bit...
Ingeniero - Thank you! You are not the only one, I like that embryo image very much.
I like the Alien franchise, but there are plenty of others I like just as much if not more.
I know and I hope so too. I think he might get a chuckle if he sees this though.
I hope BigDave is ok, he had disappeared before the breakdown.
drucea - 'I'm with you all on the one black goo theory.' 'Thnaks for posting the breakdown chart as well. It was a lot easier to comprehend than some of the infographic charts out there lol.'
Thank you very much! I'm glad that there are more members here who mention that the chart is useful.
'Do not overcomplicate it.' - that should be our key idea. (It is complex and complicated enough!) :D
Kethol - 'I don't agree at all that this is the same form of the pathogen that we saw infect Holloway or Fifield'
Ok! I see your point. This is my opinion: people, fans, etc over-explain the Holloway infection because of the sexual factor. I strongly believe that the fact that he had sex with Shaw is not so important. In the mirror scene we see the small trilobite in his eye, and I think that he would have given birth to the bigger trilobite if he had not passed it to Shaw. Do you remember the concept art showing the trilobite bursting out from Holloway?
So I think he just passed it to Shaw. No sperm, no egg cells were involved in the process... The trilobite belongs to the group of the Hybridized creatures.
Johner- I'll take that knife back now.
Hello, Lone! Been a while since seeing that awesome eggplant avatar!
Don't forget though that GotG and Wonder Woman are both all-ages, feel-good Super-hero film with huge budgets and Disney/Marvel/DC backing.
I know its business but it really doesn't seem fair to compare it against a +15 sci-fi/horror film about aliens.
The real problem is that Covenant did significantly worse than Prometheus at the box office, even with the Alien Prefix stapled to it.
All we can hope for is that Home Entertainment sales show a huge surge, showing the changing trends in viewer platforms away from cinema
Welcome back Lone!
A L I E N 4 2 6 - 'The Deacon is basically just a Neomorph when you break it down this way' - Yes, I think you're right. We could say that. They both belong to the final group, the group of the Xenomorph-like hybridized creatures.
drucea - Exactly! And it's very interesting that the facehugger embryos have different colours! One of them is very brown. :) Does that produce queen?
