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bit unrelated, but the title suddenly reminded me of Lambert asking if Brett could still be alive
Plus, in Alien, it's suspicious that Ash is so ready to state the clause in the contract that all Nostromo crew agreed to. He's says it like he memorized it. I guess he is a robot though, even though nobody knows it at the time.
I really appreciate the time Im Durp. That also could be the correct answer based on the facts.
It has been about 24 hours since I began this query and I'm not too shocked at the really good answers I received back.
The answer to "What is more rare than capturing a xenomorph in the Alien universe?" is related to a member of the Prometheus crew.
Answer below:
Answer: Capturing an image of Sean Fifield smiling is very rare.
Thank you for your time everyone.
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Someone NOT looking into a mysterious egg that opens up.
Thank you so much IRaptus.
This is also a great answer...a synthetic loyal to humans consistently....a very rare thing but not the answer. Walter at band camp is very funny.
This is also another answer that can arguably be the correct answer because of the facts.
OK, one last, last hint. And thank you again for playing along.
The answer to "What is more rare than capturing a xenomorph in the Alien universe?" has to do with an occupant of the Prometheus, Nostromo, or Sulaco ships.
The topic opening picture does show the answer.
Great thread and great thoughts. Love all this. Good work!
@NassaDane I'm not sure it's a specific line, but it is something that Native Americans have done in order to bond with their particular horse back when they were the true and rightful owners of the lands here in America.
I was curious, the part where David talks about blowing on the nose of a horse, is that a line from Lawrence of Arabia? It's been so long since I've seen that movie but that line sounds like it would have came from it. If not, does anyone know where its from?
I smell spam in here again....
#2 still ain't bad to be holding on. I think this warms Fox's hearts a good deal and gives quite a bit of confidence heading into the next one. I can see where they would want to trim the budget next time round, but "smaller is better" sometimes, especially when it helps think more creatively.
dk price is kind of rip off but I have indulged myself on my birthday.
And it's a real beauty and I prefer the statue like pose instead of the flexible models from neca.
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red0guy@gmail.com Blasphemer! We play the long game here. Red White and Blue T&A will eventually host a facehugger!
Gotta kid ya a bit- I know facts are facts. TBH, IDC about perceived competition. I just want my movie to earn enough to make a new movie.
At any rate, energy has to somehow be consumed and depending on efficiency, a certain amount is expelled in the form of unusable energy such as exhaust.
Just watched- HOLY F'in HAPPY SCI FI DANCE!
It's all there- A complete story with no need for a prequel or sequel. Background and character development. Twists and turns. A balance of both thought provoking concepts and straight up action. There is a reason everything happens without need for trailers. There is an ambiguous question at the end- is the antagonist really wrong? Answer seems obvious but there is enough to ponder. Good nods to movies past such as Matrix, Running Man, Equilibrium and Forum members could probably cite others- but I think it stands on its own.
I have to admit shedding a tear or two at the end.
If you can, spend a couple hours and watch!
4.9/5.0
Thanks again to joylitt for the early tip and Starlogger for talking me into getting Netflix just to see this exclusive!
Thank you for providing the quote which perfectly illustrates my point the soul is defined by a promise for the return of the body and blood, rather than a separate non corporeal entity which is not bound by earth bound constructs in eternity.
The subtext of the quote is that everything is defined by materialism and it is notable that the elder does not offer eternal salvation for the Engineer Acolyte but a return, defining everything within a limited physical reality. The point of a third Promethean movie would have been to establish that the Engineers view was limited and why they suffered terrible retribution both at their own hands and at the hands of their sub creators sub creation was because there was a moral relativism which comes out of a creative creationist mythos.
On a personal note BD, whats interesting about all you say is you will never commit to a view you like to offer conjecture and possibilities, as I have said before I am a complete finisher I like resolution and answers. I like to pose the question find all of them and then make a judgement.
Curiously enough I am coming round to a resolution in my own mind about several things which your question deals with:-
1) The first is that having read quite a few responses to Covenant, even one today on AVP reviewing the blu ray, that if I was Fox I would stop these prequels because there is no one homogenous identifiable audience for them. The person in question "Darkness" thought Covenant was great and a vast improvement on Prometheus because it did away with the Engineers and gave him/her Xenomorphs. That is entirely at odds with another segment of the feedback. I am convinced the creature will provide the law of diminishing returns, you on the other hand do not believe its cooked and has legs. Given the huge disparity of feedback I would not risk another 100 million on this conjecture.
2) These films do not fit with modern pre occupations for block busters clearly Covenant is nothing like the big sellers and most of the core fan base seem in the main to be interested in horror and gore which is limiting audience wise.
3) What I have attempted to do is offer a different narrative that I represent a segment of the first generation of the A L I E N audience who found the thought provoking Prometheus the right way to re look at this world and thoroughly enjoyed Lindelofs approach and a crew which felt like real flawed people rather than this modern need where the characters have to be bullet proof, all the narrative to be explained (the helmets issues) and perfectly consistent (the size of the Jockey and the derelict which are simply artistic license). My thoughts about how the series could have developed is to show to myself and anyone who cares to read that there was an audacious thought provoking way forward. I do not claim they are my ideas they come out of what was hinted back in 2013 to early 2015.
Ridley has said on the commentary of Covenant that there is a follow up to Covenant and a backing into the Jockey movie so we have yet another filler movie to come, I am getting bored and thinking out loud how it might have gone, which I notice others are doing and is an expression of rejection and boredom with what we have.
My final observation is the revelation of John Logan's script on which A:C was announced and funded basically took the following position :-
1) Give it a more generic sci fi feel.
2) Sign off only as much as you need to drop the Engineers.
3) Kill off Elizabeth as a face hug.
4) A creature in the first act.
5) The creature in the third act.
6) Make David the antagonist in the second act driven by the narrative of AI without a moral conscious (Alien hi jacked by Bladerunner).
That every really interesting Promethean link was added in after this shows their dilemma and one reflected in your post about what sort of movie should they make.
I think thats me done now for a while.
LOL dk, enjoy the movie. I will watch the remaining tonight as well.
Well this did not last, today 19 august, Wonder Woman (starring a short actress with thick accent) is number one on amazon.com even if is still on pre-order (with exactly a month till release).
Writing, well, a lot of writers we start with an idea and just kind of go along for the ride ourselves, really. :)
TY also!!
You always have interesting analyses, but sometimes I wonder what you want to achieve with them (when it comes to these films’ development)? Do you want a development that would satisfy your interests, or do you want blockbuster films? The letter ones are most often very simple 3 act constructs, with fairly stereotyped characters, easy to see problems that must be solved by the main characters and often either eternal “simple” human problems (love) or modern, trendy ones.
James Cameron made the blockbusters Titanic and Avatar because he made simple 3 act structured movies, with stereotyped characters, and “simple” problems. He also made them into blockbusters by attracting both sexes, that is a love story is in the centre (where particularly the woman is most focused on - giving her almost all Superman qualities there is (like Ripley, Daniels etc). In Titanic it’s Rose and Jack, and in Avatar it’s Neytiri and Jake. Then there are the bad guys - in Titanic it’s Hockley and in Avatar Colonel Quaritch. The theme embedded in Titanic is class structure (rich/poor, men/women) and there is a catastrophe with lots of action. In Avatar it's environmental and ethnic themes and a catastrophe (war) with lots of action.
Although RS has done his best to attract the female audience (which is half of the audience) with the protagonist being a woman who has all the qualities of men (technical experts, can shoot with any kind of weapon etc) plus all the best qualities of women (emotional, empathic etc), he has still not succeeded in attracting most of them.
When Carpenter made The Thing, it was not a blockbuster but it’s still among many (male) sci-fi-horror enthusiasts favourites. It was an all-male movie without a love story in the centre. It was about surviving in a desolate part of Antarctica with a monster chasing them. There was also an Agatha Christie (“And then there were None”) feeling to it.
Perhaps they should make movies for a specific audience (target group), men/women/intellectuals/action seekers etc instead of trying to make a mishmash of everything, trying to make a blockbuster (but then the production company won’t get its money back)?
A synthetic that doesn't have a rebellious streak. Even Bishop went rogue with his knife party trick lol
Ash tried to choke Ripley to death with a magazine - you rebel
Call deliberately spilt the moonshine - Rebel
David - Genocidal maniac with daddy issues. Currently trying to kill humanity
Walter - one time at band camp..... he indulged in a little unauthorised fluting
someone who can do the fingering properly apparently :p
Very good catch on Isle of the Dead, WillGro. I hadn't spotted that one.
NB, I saw Pierro della Francesca's painting at the National Gallery. It's massive, like the size of a man. I was expecting It to be much smaller in real life.
David's ship does 'emit' some kind of blue light when it sets off on its journey.
As to how they are constructed, the distinction between 'grown' and 'made' gets rather blurred in an advanced technological civilisation. There may be a time, perhaps in a hundred years even on Earth, when you can buy a dehydrated packet of vacuum cleaner nano particles, add water, a few kilos of powdered rock and – presto – you've got a new vacuum cleaner.
It's definitely plausible, and a common theme in sci fi. They took a similar angle in the Dune universe, where AI is abhorrent and human 'mentats' fulfil the computing role instead. In Neuromancer they have the 'Turing Police' whose purpose is to stop AIs from getting too smart.
But did David really announce his arrival? Or was the crowd already there to welcome the scorpion ship?
"Look upon my Works, ye Mighty and despair!"
He's so vain, he wouldn't feel the need to talk to them in person. There's enough going on in his head to bother with that. His bombs are message enough.
The Darkness has arrived. dk will watch the Precious and 7 versions of the Noomi now.
David apparently ripped out something from Walter after the initial ass whoopin' but it looked ambiguous. Later, Walter showed up and said that he had received upgrades since David's time.
Where are the power packs for these robots housed? If I were David, I'd have ripped out an incapacitated Walter's power pack.
great work again! You still seem to be following a path for Awakening that seems logical and exciting! well done
I saw no evidence of a decapitation.
That is a great answer Timmy the ultramorph.
No, the answer is not the lack of ethics and empathy at Weyland-Yutani Corporation.
"What is more rare than capturing a xenomorph in the Alien universe?"
There are 2 clues in the topic opener and comments.
Thank you for trying though...you could easily argue that is the right answer because greed is healthy at the Weyland-Yutani Corporation.
I wonder if it's a case of Walter lost his head somehow, like David did lol
Then the Engineers come back to find an alive, but decapitated Walter in their church/holy building.
Last I saw, Walter straddled David about to punch him and David said it was better to rule in hell then to serve in heaven. Then the scene ended with both alive. I think Walter lives.
cgmoseley I noticed the "poor thing" but I thought it was because Shaw looked restrained. I didn't notice the pregnant bit.....back to the blue ray.
Interesting since the hammerpede regenerated in Prometheus. In AC, it looked as though the neomorphs might be able to generate as they looked like bullet sponges early on. Eventually the big one stayed down after Oram shot it several times.
Jonesy Thanks- good to hear. I am still farting around waiting for darkness!
people who car about something othere than money.
I have watched 40 mins of it and so far it is pretty good. I am surprised how great they are able to make 7 Noomi appeared in a single shot. Just amazing. And Noomi is such a great actress, made me feel sad she is not on Covenant.
When you watch the Scene when the xeno gets crushed you see that the only things that Get crushed are it's legs and an arm, the head and torso are still attached.
