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I can't take anyone serious if they praise AVP 04 as a good or fun movie
If I had to compare it to something AvP, it's Godzilla vs Kong. Unfortunately, that movie failed, I mean, just in principle.
Godzilla has an origin. It's a serious movie about a monster that could destroy humanity. The director made it for a reason. King Kong is also about a monster. It was made for a completely different reason. Again, the director has a message here. Both films are excellent.
Godzilla vs Kong is made for one reason. To have fun. To fight monsters. A spectacular show. If the director had given it an idea it would have been a fine film, but it doesn't interfere with or borrow anything from the original films - except the monsters.
AvP also doesn't borrow anything from Alien or Predator other than the monsters. And on top of that, there's a fun story where I'm having fun and not looking forward to it ending. On the contrary. That's why I like AvP. It doesn't play at anything. Action, fun, suspense. It's not gonna beat the original Alien or Predator. Aliens, A3 or Alien Covenant does.
AvP is good fun for me. I don't have an aversion to this movie like I do to Aliens, A3 etc. Aliens vs Predator has its own world. It has its rules. It doesn't touch the original Alien at all. It's a different universe. It's a different time. Each of the monsters just has their own charm and I like AvP.
It doesn't deal with where the Alien species originated, it doesn't make nonsensical connections between events. The director showed a sense of fun when he combined the two monsters, created a reality of sorts, and it worked. Unfortunately, AvP2 is a tragedy for me. But if I have to choose a movie from the Alien universe that didn't ruin my mood and instead entertained me, it's AvP.
I don't this increasing amount of hate that ALIENS is getting, did people forget about Alien Resurrection or the AVP movies?
I just hope the new AVP movie is more like AVP2 (the 2001 video game, not Requiem) instead of AVP 2004
Boo this man, throw rotten eggs upon him, curse his endeavors to fail, lol.
For real though, I'm a huge AvP nerd and Aliens is so far the GOAT...unfortunately. I first remember seeing it when I was like 7 or 8 but as I watched it, some things were familiar, so I know my actual first time was before I had a fully functioning memory. I've seen it countless times since, heck just watched the directors cut AGAIN 3 weeks ago with my roommate who hadn't seen the theatrical release since he was a teenager.
Now Alien 3, that's a poster child for how to not make a movie. Kill off Newt and Hicks right out the gate? WTAF! Even the director wishes he had never made it. Now, Charles Dutton, Sigorney, and Jeremy Irons were fantastic and given that they started filming with NO SCRIPT, I gotta give the whole cast props on their improvisation.
TBH, I understand the first movie is necessary viewing to the uninitiated, but I always get kinda bored with it. Very few movies scare me for even a second, Alien no exception. Poor John Hurt though, he dies in the worst ways possible in every role. Not cluing in the rest of the cast on what was about to happen was a stroke of genius.
The revelation of xenomorph learning and strategy in Aliens was a boon the the whole AVPverse. If there were some cut of the xenomorph in Alien 3 that kept the scenes in the director's cut but retained the canine origins, that would be great but we can't have nice things I guess. I almost hate Resurrection but I did like the design and movement of the xenomorphs that weren't white baby face. How they sacrificed one of their own to escape was one of the best things about that turd of a movie.
AVP 1 and 2 on PC was great playing as xenomorph, so was playing as "6" of AVP2010 for PC. In AVP 1 you really had to think and strategize like a xeno, destroying lights and being sneaky and patient, waiting for the right moment to show a poor fool what nightmare fuel looks like. I miss playing that online and hiding up in a dark corner and lmao as dumb human players backed right into my jaws. Also the one time I was in a match with lifecycle mode on and my xeno team kicked so much marine butt, (especially myself, one marine player said I was God) we all became pratorians and the marines left the match. We were like...sooo what we do now? We need marines. I was like, "I'll be your huckleberry...", left, rejoined, and beat them undefeated until they all quit. Good times.
Oh um....it just occurred to me, a prequel to Aliens about the events at Hadley's Hope prior to the arrival of the Colonial Marines could be a masterpiece. It would definitely need to be rated R and be very depressing because so....much...carnage and not even a pinch of hope.
Now from what I've heard, this new one will be set in the past, staring a female native American. That actually has excellent potential. Still, it would be nice to see a good one that doesn't rely on human perspective.
I'm a huge AVP nerd but the crossover movies have been so bad, even cannon wreckers. Charles Weyland in modern times? Pathetic. I think the most awesome potential for a good movie would be to focus on a Yautja clan, no humans or humans as a plot device only. Make it a foreign language move. It's a risk but if done right, a worthy addition. Everyone involved in such an undertaking would need to be or become very familiar with the first 3 Alien movies, the first 2 Pedator movies, and Predator, plus some graphic novels and AVP PC games (Not YOU, Colonial Marines trash!). Gotta get the Yautja culture and way of thinking right.
It's been great having you as part of our community here ninXeno426! Differences of opinions are what make discussions so engaging here! I'm glad you continue to enjoy these forums, I do as well and I too am looking for to 5+ more years. Let's hope we have more Alien news / theories to dissect in that time frame though haha
Happy New Year!
Thanks for sticking around. I like that there are different people here with their perspectives, likes and dislikes. Having different opinions is what drives discussions and that's fine, not to say that I'll agree with everyone, but that's OK. I like the picture that you attached
Uhhh the marines were slaughtered by the xenomorphs, also Vasquez unloaded an entire pistol clip into that xenomorph warrior, it was still pretty tough. Yes we see xenomorphs gun down but are they actually dead? They may have just got knocked down from the impact of the pulse rifle...aside from the ones Ripley killed in the hive.
Also Ash was pretty much worshipping the xenomorph at that point of the movie and he is capable of lying and withholding information.
Ash says: You can't kill it. You don't know what you're dealing with. He knew full well they had flamethrowers.
Alien at the end goes into the spacecraft's thrusters and is only ejected by pressure when the engines are turned on. It won't burn. The shot is repeated.
Dallas is found with empty flamethrower. Parker: This flamethrower needs a new charge. It's safe to assume he fired on the Alien.
A flamethrower can kill monsters like polar bears. But even the spacecraft's thrusters don't work on the Alien.
A bunch of Marines with rifles were shooting Aliens like cattle in a pasture. Vasquez with a pistol. It's completely stupid. Aliens would be easier to hunt in the forests of Earth than bears or lions.
Nobody's saying that Alien should have come to Earth. Ripley should have died and the pile of garbage that was filmed later wouldn't have happened. And that would have been great.
Holy crap really? The alien imitating Ripleys voice if that was suggested should have been taking out the whole idea is stupid. Even if they didn't take that out what would they story been? 1 alien comes to earth?? Boring
Really? How was it clear that she died at the end of Alien? And saying that Cameron took a almost unkillable creature and turned it into a beatle you can kill with a shotgun? Umm did you watch alien? The whole thing? Thay had no weapons. They were not on a marine carrier full of weapons. They had to make a weapon. So your entire thought process is damaged.
"It's Christmas and I want to open my presents"
The James Webb telescope was launched yesterday on Christmas Day 2021.
David, who had the painting of the nativity in his sightline when he wakes in Peter Weyland's home, turns to Elizabeth on the bridge of the Engineer ship, the latter recovering from her miraculous Christmas day birth.
"It was discovered 80 years ago and first photographed in 2030."
David, onboard the Lone Engineer Ship with Elizabeth, is referring to the photographing of a planet that is the ship's destination.
In the real world, The James Webb Telescope is scheduled to photograph the planet in question, which I draw into the narrative of the Furious Gods. However, I could never have anticipated that the telescope would be launched on a day that is symbolically crucial to the story.
Can’t wait to see where that takes it.
Also love that the article is just Don’t be dumb when gambling.
Not sure about having a reboot continuity, I kind of love the storyline already present in the movies right now
To be Honest i think thats the BEST thing they could do, is you have this as a Alternative Universe/Canon like a Reboot of Sorts then they have Complete Freedom.
Then it gives us like TWO Alternative Universes which we can enjoy, or Choose to ignore.
There has NOT been a lot of Information about the Project Yet but it seems they are going to CHANGE IT a little bit but still RESPECT the Original Vision.
Quite HOW they do this, and IF we are going to see a Discovery of Eggs or something that could become Eggs is UNKNOWN at this Point.
It seems the Xenomorph will look more Familiar to that from Alien Covenant but maybe with a Color Tone thats similar to the Runner from ALIEN 3 but then the ONLY such Image we have could NOT be what we END UP with or that this is just the Embryo Stage Color.
From the PROMO stuff we have seen ONE THING seems to be Certain there is a Structure/Interior of a Complex/Ship that has the Prometheus Aesthetic and this Interior is Submerged.
I think this would INDICATE the Xenomorph is Encountered/Discovered on Earth and UNDER WATER.
If its terrible, we can always see it as an alternate continuity like AVP 04
Thats a Good Point, if they DONT come from Earth they maybe could NEVER have been to Earth and could come from as you said Colonies out in Space and so YEAH! maybe a Outbreak in the Past could Happen and they would HAVE NO IDEA about it.... or the Specifics etc.
Its a case of WAIT and see... the TV Show will Start Shooting in March and so i am sure by ALIEN DAY 2022 we should have MORE NEWS on WHAT we are in store for...
Then its a case of then seeing HOW GOOD or BAD it is once it is OUT..... i dont think your going to Please every Fan... but as long as it Pleases Most then it would be a Success.
I know someone who is Excited and HOPE we see a Young Ripley aged between 6-12..... but i am like WHY OH WHY!
I would NOT be surprised if we do-not see a Queen at all, i do Suspect it may look at something a LITTLE DIFFERENT but it would IN NO WAY be something that will Conflict the Queen as in a Queen cant Exist.
ALIENS in the most Iconic and Recognized Movie in the Franchise and so i dont think they would do something to make that Movie be Removed from Canon or ALIEN too.
If its set before ANY of those then as LONG as they TIE-UP any Loose Ends at the END of the TV Series this would then NOT go and Conflict the Franchise too much... we can HOPE.
You just inspired me to make a casino in the ALIEN universe, for both AVPU and my ALIEN RPG campaign
"the Mercenaries who brought the Human Hosts with them on the Betty had NO idea about WHAT the Xenomorph were."
The mercenaries never strike me as the educated type so even if there was a major xenomorph outbreak on earth, they probably never cared to read up on their history especially if they grew up on one of the distant colonies.
We cant RULE that out, NOW that Disney has the Rights, i do Suspect it would be more Gun Hoo... Heavy Action Orientated.
I would rather see more Mass Conflict if a Xenomorph was brought to another World where Mankind has had Various Colonists on for like 100 Years, so you could have say 5-6 Settlements of say Hundreds/Thousands of People.
As Opposed to bringing it HOME to Earth....
My Main Concern is Conflicts and Contradiction to the Franchise, thats UNLESS the TV Show will offer a ALTERNATIVE Canon.
Much like say The Robocop 2014 is to Robocop 1987
So it depends on IF this is Canon, which those behind the TV Show claim it will be.. and it will be doing something NEW/DIFFERENT but will still keep Respect to the Original (so it wont Change things too much) this is NOT to say it wont be trying to Re-Write/Change some of the Canon though.
TIME-LINE is a Massive Concern... but i had heard the TV Show is NOT set before ALIEN..... but then i would NOT call being set after ALIEN as being in the NOT TOO DISTANT Future.
We are just going to have to WAIT and see... i think that Discovering the Xenomorph before ALIEN and Especially before the Prequels would be a MISTAKE.....
To then within such a TIME-LINE have the Xenomorph either brought to Earth.... or WORSE.... Discovered on Earth would be a LARGER MISTAKE.
This could WORK if we have it SET in the Time-Line say between 2200-2300 but then NOT on a Massive Scale, as the Mercenaries who brought the Human Hosts with them on the Betty had NO idea about WHAT the Xenomorph were.
If there was a Major Event/Outbreak on Earth before their Time i think they would have Heard about it to a Extent.
So having it Contained on say a Island where there is a Outpost like say a Area 51 etc etc, and some Population on this Island and a Outbreak Happens here and the Xenomorphs are then Destroyed by NUKE that Island... this would Cause like LESS of a Conflict....
But this is a PLOT that you maybe WONT NEED like a 8-10 Hour Run-Time or maybe a Season 2
To me it does seem the Xenomorph will be Discovered ON Earth.....and so i would Assume we could get something like a Underwater (Movie) meets ALIEN... that Progresses to a Alien Resurrection (Company has a Specimen) on a Outpost Facility that then GETS out of Control!
And its DOWN to HOW OUT OF CONTROL and where it gets to that could Determine as to HOW MUCH this could become a Conflict with the Franchise..... This would be Lessened or Increased depending on WHEN is the TV Series Set!
Overall i think its a BAD PLOT... its asking for Trouble.. but Time will TELL.
Have it SET on a Earthlike World we have Inhabited for 100 Years, and set in the Year 2200+ and they Discover a Sunken Engineer Temple or another Crashed Derelict thats UNDERWATER and i think it could work.
Or you have it SET on Origae-6 some 100 Years after the Prequels.
Well if you stretch enough it’s related,
The Weyland Yutani Corp makes a lot of money, and so do casinos, so yeah.
These editorials have always showed up on every forum, I’ve just accepted it as part of the site.
I don't know but I have played an ALIENS theme slot machine at my local casino
"I just hope its NOT going to go a more Comic like way like MARVEL Series and we see Xenomorphs Running around say NEW YORK or LOS ANGELES"
I was thinking more of Dark Horse comics Aliens Outbreak/Earth Hive, Nightmare Asylum and Female War/Earth War
Umm what does this have to do with alien?
I guess it could in Part Explain as to WHY the Earth looked how it did in Alien Resurrection, but i would prefer it if the Xenomorphs would be KEPT AWAY from Earth.
Thats just my Personnel Opinion though and i raise it as a Concern that we have to HANDLE the Xenomorph with CARE.
I think there is more RISK if your having it SET on Earth, in that if any TV Show or Movie that takes this ROUTE becomes something that BOMBS then the ALIEN Franchise could be Tarnished and made into a JOKE.
However it maybe could WORK if its DONE in the Right Way... but if we see Xenomorphs running around a Urban Setting then i WORRY!
with AVP we see the Predators had Contained the Temples in the Antarctic and ANY SIGNS of things getting OUT of Control then the WHOLE AREA is NUKED!
So if some Humans have a Specimen in a REMOTE LOCATION in a Heavily Secured Outpost and then after a Outbreak this Place is then NUKED... then Yeah! i could maybe BUY THAT.
I just hope its NOT going to go a more Comic like way like MARVEL Series and we see Xenomorphs Running around say NEW YORK or LOS ANGELES
When i look at Alien Resurrection i get the Impression of something more like Raised by Wolves, in which we get to a Point when NOT ONLY have we got WARING FACTIONS of Humans but we also have A.I and even the Autons and so the Earth is suffering from a WAR over WHO will Rule the Planet.
which then maybe Explains that USM are trying to Obtain the Xenomorph as a WEAPON to TRY and Turn the TIDE.
Its too EARLY to be sure about WHAT the TV Series will become but i Fear we will get Starship Troopers Meets AVPR
"i Certainly think having it SET on Earth is a Mistake even if its in the Year 2200+"
Why though? I mean it could explain why the earth ended up in its desolate state by time of Alien Resurrection
We can only wait and see.
It will likely run for 10-12 Episodes at 45 Min each, but maybe it could Start with a up to 2 Hour Prologue then have 10X 45 Min Episodes
Hopefully we should KNOW more come the Spring.
I think you NEED to find the Balance, but i will ASSUME that Once we get the Reveal of the Xenomorph it will NOT be long before we MOVE to more of a ALIENS ACTION and this is maybe where it will Remain.
Its early to say yet, but Ive heard its NOT set before ALIEN but we have to wait and see when we get more Information, i Certainly think having it SET on Earth is a Mistake even if its in the Year 2200+
I can't wait until I can watch it on Amazon Prime
Beside ALIEN ISOLATION, the rest of these games aren't even part of the ALIEN FRANCHISE
very well done, good imagination!
Great I'll listen to it right away, thanks for sharing!
I think it is a good idea, I have thought of it but not as detailed as you temple run
OMG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhUTqO4Ci68
