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Watched ALIENS Last Night in in MOST Scenes it looked Decent, i think the CONCEPT/IDEA of the Xenomorph is Legendary but to  Portray it on SCREEN with a Man in a Suit you are ALWAYS going to have some Issues when looking at the ENTIRE Suit.  This TOPIC seems to be to Discus the Actual Suit in which i Prefer the Elegance of the 1979 Version the Hands are a Little Disappointing in some Scenes though.

I think the Queen from ALIENS looked Great because you did-not have to PLAY by the Limits of having a Monster Suit/Costume.  Regardless i dont think there is a MASSIVE Difference between the 1979 Xenomorph Drone and 1986 Warrior the Warrior had become Iconic to many, it would have LOOKED a bit Different had they been able to Keep the Semi-Clear Domes in place and having them not Crack and Fall Off.

Its offensive to not have a single vote for the Aliens (1986) suit.

Yes the voting system has been a long time coming hahaha I finally got all the coding done for it! Had to build one from scratch lol Should be fun and add some more engagement to the forums!

And I agree, there was definitely an essence lost with the Aliens redesign. The Big Chap has this eery, ominous presence to it. Whereas the Aliens Morphs seem frail and just not as intimidating.

"We know so little for sure, there's great scope for expanding this arc of the story.

It's just such a pity that the popcorn-loving public are more interested in the slimy snapping xenomorph above everything else. If only Ridley had been allowed to carry on with his vision..."

I think that was his Plan (Ridley Scott) he saw a Potential with the Engineers for a MASSIVE Plot as far as NOT having to be Soley Connected to the Xenomorph.  He had said the AIM of the Prequels was about Creation, WHY you would Create, WHAT happens when Creation Sub-Creates?  He did also say it was about WHAT Happens when we DIE and IMMORTALITY but i doubt we would be going to like a Spiritual After-Life World of JEDI FORCE GHOSTS ;)

Ridley Scott indicated he FELT the Franchise could be as BIG as Star Wars and Star Trek, some think he means as Successful and so YEAH a Franchise about Marines, Engineers and XENOMORPHS that as BIG a HIT as Star Wars?

The Problem is some Fans seem to think the EMPHASIS is on the Xenomorph, but RS seems to see them as MERELY a Single Part of the Engineers, they are merely a Form of Pest Control that some Engineers had Created (Evolved into what David Created).

Apart from LV-426/LV-223 we have the Engineers as a Ancient Race who have SEEDED Worlds, maybe MANY MANY... they appear to be able to Travel Beyond our Galaxy to other Galaxies.... were they could have also SEEDED Worlds.

And so Potentially in a GALAXY, FAR FAR AWAY... the Engineers could have World they have Seeded that have PLEASED them, or maybe some Races that have Grown to Rival them....

so the Engineers are Involved with Worlds that could be Thousands of Light Years away... MILLIONS of Light Years away.... they could have Created Countless types of Life, many Humanoid, some Different and maybe FAR FAR away there are other Races that the Engineers have NOT Created.

So his Comment about Star Wars and Star Trek i feel was in Context to the PLOT of the Engineers means we do-not have to be Limited to Earth, LV-223, and LV-426 and Humans, Engineers, Xenomorphs and oh YES.........."Arcturian Poontang"

Thats my Interpretation... but maybe he just FELT that Xenomorphs could be as BIG as JEDI/SITH and Marines/Mercs as BIG as Storm Troopers and the like ;)

And so to Continue.....

YES we had Ridley Scott suggest the Engineers Technology is maybe MILLIONS of Years Old, we know that LV-223 had been around for at least 35'000 Years, but that the Engineers maybe ONLY decided to Create their Horrors some 2000+ Years ago, or more LIKELY this is WHEN they Decided to USE their Weapons on Earth but that went to POT...

I think some Fans put too much EMPHASIS on the Black Goo and Horrors it Created and Mural etc. The MAIN basis of the PLOT is our Engineers are Space Gardeners, they SEED Worlds, they go back and EVOLVE their Creations both Genetically and Technologically but they DO-NOT give them all their Knowledge.

The Earth is NOT the ONLY place the Engineers have Seeded/Visited as far as RS had indicated, he also hinted that LIFE well Civilization was on Earth before Mankind, and the Engineers would go to Worlds they are NOT that Happy with their Creations and Development and DEEM it Necessary to go and RESET those Worlds, this is where they BOMBARD a World so that they can START AGAIN.

RS had indicated that after a Few Hundred Years the Worlds are SAFE to then be USED to Seed/Create again.  The Basis of the Engineers Plot is CREATION and the DESTRUCTION is only seen as Necessary as a Last Measure to Eradicate a Creation that has either become a THREAT or Displeased/Offended the Engineers.

So the Engineers have been going around for MILLIONS of Years putting Effort in Seeding/Creating Life, and then Teaching these Civilizations things, but then also WHEN they feel their Creation is NOT working out as Planned they use the JUGGERNAUTS to essentially HIT RESET.

We NEED to look at the Engineers in LIGHT of this, maybe they have MILITARY and RS had indicated the LV-223 Engineers are the Military Types, but it seems that MOSTLY their Mission is to CLEAN UP any Worlds that Displease the Engineers or are seen as a Threat and as it seems these Worlds are ONLY really Evolved to a Certain Technological Level then they are NO REAL Threat.

Not when its Military Circa 2000+ Years ago VS the BLACK GOO.

So as Space Gardeners we maybe NEED to look at Worlds as say APPLE TREES within Orchids, and if ONE of these has Tainted Fruit, that maybe merely PICKING and throwing the BAD APPLES away would NOT go and FIX the Problem, maybe their is  RISK that the Fruit/Tree could Contaminant others... then maybe you POISON the TREE... then UPROOT it and then you can PLANT another.

So the Black Goo basically acts as a Pesticide, it will KILL the Tree but NOT do anything to the Orchard, the LAND can be Reseeded as SOON as the Contaminated or Unsatisfactory Tree has been DESTROYED.

So if this WAS the Engineers ways... it makes NO SENSE to Create a Weapon that would Produce some HOSTILE Reaction, like say the NEOMORPH Spores... or Mutate Life into a HOSTILE FORM like Fifield, the Hammerpedes etc.  Even if after Hundreds of Years these Dangerous Organisms will become GONE.

If we look at the SACRIFICIAL Scene we see the Engineer consumes the GOO and we are LEAD to that this Disolves his Body and that this Process would either

1) Create the Basic Building Blocks of Life.

2) Become the Catalyst to Pass on his DNA to Evolve Life that is already on that Planet.

If you look at that Scene and then ask.... WHAT if your POURED down Thousands of Gallons of that Sacrificial Goo onto a CITY?

You would have to ASSUME that any Life-Forms that get Covered would suffer the same FATE as the Engineer in the Sacrificial Scene, they would DISSOLVE and from this their DNA will KICK-START the Process again..

You would RESET the Life on that World.

And so i feel that the SACRIFICIAL GOO is more BETTER to Reset Worlds.

Also Consider that if you had a Infected Engineer with the GOO and they was about to Dissolve into a Substance a Mutagen that would either become the BUILDING BLOCKS to Start Life or a Mutagen that would INFECT any LIFE and it would Mutate to take on Engineer DNA.

To me it makes MORE Sense to Sacrifice Engineers in some other Place and then Collect and Store the Resulting Mutagen to then UNLEASH this on a World. Its a more FOOL PROOF way than the Sacrificial Scene, and IF a World already has LIFE then DROPPING DOWN the Sacrificial Goo makes more Sense.

And so THIS is WHAT i think the Intention of the Juggernauts and Urns are.. well WAS....  a Advancement on the Seeding Ships to offer a more EFFICIENT means to SEED and RESET Worlds.

IF the Engineers saw that being Selected to DONATE your Body and Soul to Create Life is seen as IMPORTANT and a HONOR then this makes the WHOLE Planet 4 Courtyard just MAKE SENSE.

The Engineers are Creators, they seem Proud of their OWN Kind, but i Suspect that SOME of them had Grown discontent with their Masters or their DNA and Discovered something else with GENETIC Traits that would be seen as PERFECT and i feel that THIS is when those Engineers on LV-223 had began to USE their Creation Tool in a Corrupt way to Engineer other LIFE using a DNA  that is NOT their own... they LIKELY saw some Organism thats the Precursor to the Xenomorph the Deacon and they WOULD USE its DNA to EVOLVE Creation.

If you for a MOMENT look at the Engineers (Planet 4) as Humans, and then look at David and Replicants as say LV-223 Engineers, look at their Story (A.I that are Sub-created to just Serve their In-superior Masters)  You see that David sees Humans who he is Created in their Likeness as NOT being Worthy, and he sees the Black Goo as having Potential to Create something more Perfect than that of a Human... "Big Things have Small Beginnings"

Look at that Mentality/Plot from Davids Perspective... then APPLY that to those LV-223 Super Engineered Engineers and i think you have the ANSWER to what was going on down on LV-223.

Well it seems if we look at the Sacrificial Scene especially with the ELDERS and looking at what Little we saw of the FINAL DRAFT then it was a VERY RITUAL Practice, and something that RS had mentioned, he likened it to how the AZTECS would Choose a Sacrifice who would spend a YEAR treated like a PRINCE and then would be Sacrificed to the Gods in the HOPE of a better Harvest etc.

The Engineers have a LOT of PRIDE in their Work/Cult they like to make Statues and Murals to what they have Achieved.   When we look at Planet 4 it seems to be DEVOID of anything relating to the Xenomorph or Horrors from LV-223.  It does HOWEVER have a LOT of Statues of Engineers, including those FOUR HUGE ones near the Hanger in a Very Buddha like Pose.

The BIG HEAD Room seemed to be a Central Point of Focus, and those Engineers each appeared to be a LITTLE DIFFERENT to each other, some looked like the Elders from Prometheus Deleted Scene.  Ridley Scott had called these GUYS the WISE MEN, the APOSTLES and SUPERIOR BEINGS (Superior to WHO). Chris Seagers had called them the HIERARCHY.   And so these Guys where likely the FOUNDERS of their Civilization or CULT.

When we come down to the SHIPS then we see in the Movies there is NO SIGN of any Weapons with the Ships, apart from being able to DROP the URNS down to Rain down the Black Goo.  The Engineers could have been FLOCKING to the Courtyard in Hundreds of Thousands to WELCOME HOME some of their Military and they are LIKELY very Naive to think that NO-ONE else could Obtain their Technology or that ANY of their KIND would USE it against them.

When say a Nuke Sub returns to Port and Battle Ships they are indeed sometimes Welcomed Back Especially like after BIG WARS... and those SHIPS could so Easy just TURN their Weapons on the Port/Crowds but we NEVER Fear this will Happen as its VERY UNLIKELY.. unless ONE had been Hijacked.

The Scorpion Sting looking SHIP had been referred to by Ridley Scott as a Docking Ship and some kind of BORDER CONTROL.  so it was some kind of Security Measure, but we Discover (with keen Eye) this SHIP has ended up Crashed in the Mountains.... Wayne Haag had suggested that after the Deployment of the Black Goo that the Scorpion Ship and Juggernaught had got into a FIGHT and the Ships had Crashed.  We see NO Evidence those Ships had any kind of Weapon.

As a Border Control then you would ASSUME the Role of the Docking Ship is to Connect with the Incoming Juggernaught which they then Carry Out some Checks, and MAYBE they Check the Cargo or DISABLE the Cargo, so that the Ships can then LAND in the Hanger.

Nice to see a Vote System ;)

I think the IDEA in Aliens is to make them look the same, the Head looks Different only because the Clear Dome was something that would be too Fragile and get Falling Off due to the Heavy Action Scenes.

The Xenomorph looks more BETTER with it on as in The Big Chap, i think the Xenomorphs in ALIENS in some Shots did-not look as Elegant as in ALIEN and this was Mainly due to MASS PRODUCTION of Costumes and HOW those Stunt Actors in the Costumes were NOT all really TALL or really THIN so they looked Bulky.

The Xenomorph in ALIEN looked Elegant due to HOW SLENDER it was and how LONG the Legs were, and with ALIEN COVENANT the Xenomorph looked the same as in ALIEN its a Shame we NEVER SAW much of the Costume in FULL but again this WORKED due to having a TALL/THIN Actor in the Suit.  Something which the other Appearances in the Franchise including the AVP Movies just NEVER Quite got IT as Right..... its NOT EASY to go and Find say 5+ near 7ft Actors who are VERY THIN.

Certainly we got the Impression that David felt that Mankind and the Engineers did-not deserve to Live.  He seemed VERY interested in his Creation, even thinking they could RULE the Galaxy.

So when he saw that the Covenant had Thousands of Good Souls, then INDEED they could be USED as Hosts for his Army of Xenomorphs. 

However if this was his PLAN then i am not sure he would even NEED to have a Colony Set-up.  The ONLY point in having a Colony looking like its SET-UP would be to BAIT more Humans to arrive as they would see what seems to be a Colony Set Up, as it would look STRANGE if say Origae-6 just had the Covenant landed down with NO SIGNS of any Colony Set-up that would appear Suspicious.

The Xenomorph as a Weapon is FLAWED due to HOW it requires a HOST, so Deployment would be Difficult we also dont know HOW-LONG a Xenomorph would Survive for, and IF they Lived for a LONG TIME the Problem is having say Thousands of Them on Origae-6 and then Safely getting them onto a SHIP to Transport.  However Transporting Eggs may be Easier... but then its Deploying them close to where Humans would get Infected.

A Engineer Ship would Certainly have to come into PLAY and so i dont think David would take the Covenant Directly to LV-223/LV-426 and i think it would be a MASSIVE COINCIDENCE if Origae-6 was a Engineer World or had a Engineer Ship.

So it would be LIKELY and Ridley Scott indicated as such that a ENGINEER SHIP would arrive at where David is going (have to Assume Origae-6) its a Question of HOW would they know WHERE to Find Him?

Regarding Daniels then maybe YES he has Plans for her to become his Queen of Sorts...

HOWEVER............ looking into what Ridley Scott had said at the Time after Alien Covenant he had indicated the MOVIE would NOT be about Xenomorphs, he said it would be about A.I and what KIND of a World would David Create!

He had said this a Few Times and the One Time he went on to talk about A.I and said that the Replicants from Blade Runner are A.I and so in that CONTEXT it appears that Ridley Scott is NOT looking at A.I as being ROBOTS... well Synthetic but that A.I can be Biological, and so what he is LIKELY looking at is A.I as merely a Intelligent Being/Species that are Artificially Created or Engineered.

And so it seems Implied we would be mainly looking at WHAT it is that David would WANT to Create Next. It will NOT be about Xenomorphs, and it will be some kind of Artificial Creation (so NOT a Natural Creation).  And so to me WHAT stands out is those Embryo's and i think that David may ATTEMPT to use them to Create Something or Engineer them to Evolve them into something that is NOT a Human but is NOT a Xenomorph.

Ritual use? Hard to say for sure, since we've only had a tantalising glimpse of Engineer society. We've seen three different kinds of Engineer ship: the teardrop at the start of Prometheus; the juggernaut; and the one hovering above the crowd that David bombs.

Is the massive cargo bay in a juggernaut designed specifically to carry xenomorph eggs? Or is it more general purpose? Is the juggernaut a weapon of war?

If it is a weapon of war, I don't see that the crowd would be particularly bothered by its appearance. Communist countries on Earth parade their WMDs in front of cheering crowds, for example...

Of course, we don't know how Engineers think. Perhaps those juggernauts have been around for millions of years, and they don't see any need to improve on the best.

Or maybe we've just seen the tiniest speck of their galactic civilisation so far, and they have a multitude of different ships.

We know so little for sure, there's great scope for expanding this arc of the story.

It's just such a pity that the popcorn-loving public are more interested in the slimy snapping xenomorph above everything else. If only Ridley had been allowed to carry on with his vision...

A couple of things we know about David, for sure, as he was being very candid with Walter just prior to attacking him:

1. He thinks he's already created perfection, in the form of his engineered creature.
2. He can't allow humanity to grasp for resurrection.

So it's clearly foremost in his mind that he wants to wipe out humans. A good way of achieving that would be through a xenomorph army. If I was as twisted as he, I'd
- put Daniels' body to some nefarious use, so she can't blab
- Land the colonists on Origae-6
- Let the colony grow
- Infect the colony
- Send out lies over the ether to attract other ships from Earth
- Let the visitors spread the infection throughout the galaxy

Of course, we know things don't quite work out that way, and an Engineer ship (complete with pilot) gets infected. Perhaps David gets up to his evil tricks, but an Engineer ship lands on Origae-6...

Looks Good... i have to say i am FOND of Movie Themed Pinball Machines... just i am HOPELESS at them lol

A Cafe near me that Sadly Closed about 5 Years ago had a Pinball Machine from the 50's, 1958 i think it was.  Sadly the owner was in ILL HEALTH and the Cafe that had been in Generations since the late 60's had closed and became a Peddle Bike/Cycling Shop ;(

I miss having ONE of the BEST Full English Breakfasts around ;(

But whats DONE is DONE....

The Problem NOW is that we have Painted ourselves into a Corner...

You would think that David would USE the Colonist to MASS PRODUCE the Xenomorph, but then he has to FIND a way to Deploy them.... The Covenant would be EASY PICKINGS for a Engineer Ship or Human Military.  There would be LITTLE Reason to go to Origae-6 he would be better off going to LV-223 and to take some Humans with him... then USE that Ship to go somewhere to Conduct his Experiments.

The Problem is that some Fans would NOT want to see a Emphasis again on David, and you would NEED to see some Humans and also they would NOT want to see David have anything more to do with the Xenomorph, and Reveal that NOPE he could NOT have Created it.

What LITTLE we know about the Sequel was that it would NOT be about Xenomorphs it would be about WHERE it is that David goes NEXT and WHAT KIND of WORLD he would Create....  Daniels had asked to who she THOUGHT was Walter about WHAT KIND OF WORLD can they Build.... he said "if we are KIND it will be a KIND World" and so i DONT think we are on a Path where David is purely going to Create Horrors... but Creation is the THEME.

I suspect it will Follow the THEME of Creation, and David had showed he can PERFECT the Horror the Engineers had attempted on LV-223 and i SUSPECT that NOW that David wants to Create his LAMBS and will EVOLVE the Embryos into a NEW Humanoid Species.

But i dont think we will EVER find out what was NEXT.

There was to be 3/4 Incoming Players/Parties with the Engineers the ONLY one he had Confirmed... i would say they are ONE and i would say THREE/FOUR have to be Similar and so that would be HUMANS... and NUMBER TWO?  Maybe that would be the Civilization that David would ATTEMPT to Create?

I think with the aftermath of Prometheus it seemed that FOX had Considered that maybe to make the Emphasis of the Prequels to NOT be about Xenomorphs or Ultimately give us the EVENTS that led to the Derelict on LV-426 was maybe a MISTAKE!

But some Fans were Perfectly Fine that we NEVER had those Answered in Prometheus and i am sure some were Looking Forwards to what does David do when he is FREE and WHAT KIND of beings they Discover and WILL we see Dr Shaw get her Answers?

The Problem that FOX had was how does Dr Shaw be able to Communicate with these Engineers or whoever, what HAPPENS to HER would depend on HOW they would React to her and David turning up, and well some Fans could NOT connect with a Android and some Fans could NOT connect with Dr Shaws Character and then its a case of are they ENOUGH and would they Connect with Engineers?

So you NEED more Humans, and also if they was going to Introduce the Xenomorph and eventually get to ALIEN then thats WHY making the PLOT and Location of Planet 4 be somewhere CLOSE was just Convenient.   But this came at the SACRIFICE of what some Prometheus Fans would EXPECT with a Sequel, while Alien Covenant also DID-NOT please the Fans of the BEAST... the Xenomorph as the Emphasis was on David and having him as Creator was WELL..... lets say  SACRILEGIOUS to the Fandom in General.

But IF they had some Decent Writers and BALLS! they could have Pulled something off that would have WORKED!  We could have had a SPIN-OFF thats SET FAR FAR AWAY!

I have Pitched this Idea a few times, it is what my Prometheus 3 idea would have been about (My Prometheus 2 was set on Earth).

so PARADISE is basically the Cradle of Creation its where MANKIND was Created, its also Considered a Place that ONLY the Worthy, Loyal and Honorable are Permitted to stay....  Hence WHY our Ancestors Adam and Eve were KICKED OUT of PARADISE.

So you have this WORLD that is what 10'000, 20'000 maybe up to 50'000 Light Years from Earth.  There is NO-WAY that Humans with our Technology would have Ventured to this PLACE by the Time we even FINISHED with ALIENS.

This WORLD has a CITY thats Basically the same as in Alien Covenant, with a Central Temple and a Courtyard with Hangers etc. We may see a LITTLE more of the Prometheus Aesthetic but it should NOT be too much Different to Planet 4. Beyond this Central Point of the City are Smaller Areas each with a Smaller Central Building, and the ENTIRE group of Towns/Villages that Connect to a CENTRAL CITY are Surrounded by some kind of WALL.

Who LIVES on this World?

We have Engineers and they could be more like the Planet 4 kind just Taller and more Pale Skinned.... This is the World that they DWELL and where they would KEEP/TAKE various Species that they have Created and are Pleased with but ONLY in Small Numbers...

Among these are HUMANS... you can have it that Humans are Seeded in more Worlds than Earth, but the Humans on Earth had became Unworthy of the Engineers attention and Knowledge and after a FAILED attempt to Destroy us, they had Abandoned the LV-223 Outpost, they had Abandoned Earth, leaving us to ROT and Destroy Ourselves!

These Engineers being so Naive that they THOUGHT without the HELP of their Knowledge then Worlds they Seed/Visit will REMAIN at the TECHNOLOGY LEVEL that they allowed (Level we are at 2000+ Years ago) and so they ASSUMED that on our OWN we would NEVER be able to Master Space Travel and are NO THREAT!

HOW DOES.... Dr Shaw speak with these beings?

EASY... During a Period of where Dr Shaw is BUILDING UP some Trust with David before she Re-attaches him, he could TEACH her a LITTLE of the Engineers Language.

But DAVID would be doing MOST of the Talking, but you then have ONE of the Elders go up to Dr Shaw and Place his Hands on her Head and be able to some how READ her Mind/Soul and see she is GOOD OF HEART... the Engineer is able to Speak with her Mind and Read it.... and he then is able to IMPLANT the Knowledge of their Language to her.

FROM this Point you dont NEED any Subtitles, we hear Dr Shaw and the Engineers and other Humans etc all Speak English just for our Convenience.

The ELDER attempts to Read David but he CANT... he then Discovers what David is and is Concerned as he NOT ONLY cant Read his Mind/Intentions but also KNOWS of the RISK of Sub-Creating a Superior Form or Service Race as THEY had done that  with the LV-223 Engineers, but some of them BEGAN to see themselves as Superior to the ELDERS and their Creations... these LV-223 Engineers were Tasked with Certain Tasks, they was also GIVEN the TASK of Taking the Black Goo to RESET WORLDS.... but those on LV-223 had decided to CREATE something with it instead... they INTENDED to USE this Horror to RULE the Galaxy but they was STOPPED and they had 3 Ships they had intended to USE to Begin their Conquest, ONE had been Destroyed... ONE had made it to a World and Afflicted Horrors on it, this World is Abandoned and the FINAL SHIP had Crashed Near the PLACE they had Created such a thing.

Dr Shaw informs them of LV-223 and they said the PLACE should be Secure as they left some Guardians on that Moon... and they have since Abandoned that Outpost but use others for Genetically Evolving Species but they decided to NO-LONGER do this.  And they just take down Chosen Humanoids to NEW Worlds to Begin Colonization instead of Sacrificing them for their DNA to Evolve Worlds, they FELT they had Achieved as GOOD a Perfection with their Creations and that those they had Created more PERFECT proved to be Problematic.

We get to a Point that the Elders find out about David and what he had done, and DECIDE that he is to be Imprisoned while they Decide what to do, they have a MEETING and Decide to Destroy him.

One of the ELDERS goes to him and says he sees PERFECTION in David and that he had Engineered the LV-223 Engineers but his BROTHERS had decided to UNDO them apart from a Few Loyal Super Engineers..... this Elder thinks the Council has Gone Soft.... and he Frees David, and David asks about the HORROR that they Created on LV-223 the Elder says he can SHOW HOW they achieved this but ONLY if David would RID the World of those Weak/Feeble Engineers.  This Elder says he was Youngest of the Council he had a TWIN who they had Punished for using the Creation Tool in a way they Council had NOT Sanctioned.   He says the Elders had been on the Verge of Immortality at a COST and they Turned their Back on it..... and that HE could NOT go and KILL the LEADER... but if their Council was DESTROYED at the Hands of David then this Younger Elder would RULE and then he would SHOW to David as to HOW they can Rebuild a Superior Engineer Species.

A Group of Engineers take David away, and David goes to get Dr Shaw, we have a Fight Break Out....  Dr Shaw refuses to go with David so he Kidnaps her and makes his way to the Juggernaught and Unleashes Hell on the World.

They meet up with another Ship that has the Renegade Engineers and the Young Elder informs David about in order to Create the Horror they NEED a Human Female but David is NOT so keen to Sacrifice Dr Shaw.

There is more to it than this but this is kind of the NUTS/BOLTS we see Horrors Unleashed on Paradise, the Sequel we would see David go to a Place with the Renegade Engineers, but he Double Crosses them... begins to Create his OWN Horrors... Sparing Dr Shaw and saying with her he can Create a New Humanity that are Superior... but she Rejects, and she is KILLED he attempts to Create a New Horror but it has Problems... but he knows he is CLOSE. He takes his Ship to ONE of the Worlds the Engineers have Humans and David wishes to Destroy them and Subject/Use them to Create his OWN kind of Humanoid.  Another Engineer Ship arrives to what is LEFT of Paradise, and Discovers a few Survivors, they Leave to Find where David and the Renegades have gone, they are Sworn to Destroy him and the Renegades and Prevent them from Destroying all they had Created,  One Elder asks what about the other THREAT?

EARTH, they say they will DEAL with Earth Once they have Ridden the Scourge that is David and the Renegade Engineers and their Horrors.

We would see David go and Create something SIMILAR to the Xenomorph and by seeing HOW we would get CLUES to HOW the Original came to be.  Now there was about 3 Variants of this kind of Idea that Differ to Degree... but it SHOWS you can go FAR FAR AWAY from Earth, and have HUMANS and get Past the Language Barrier.

I agree, some extra screen time would have been preferable. But what's done is done. It's still a great movie.

Like the reviewer, I'd dearly love to see the awful mess that David creates on his new world.

hm, didn't know aliens liked pinball

Going back to this SCENE/TOPIC then it is NO-WAY to indicate as i have said before that this Scene is on EARTH, it is just to show HOW the Engineers go about Sacrificing themselves to ALLOW for their DNA to Create Life.

It is UNLIKELY that the Earth is the ONLY place they have Visited and Seeded Life and Evolved Life, and in CONTEXT to the PLOT then we cant be 100% Sure that Mankind had Originated from some other PLACE and we had been taken to Earth in the Distant Past.

Ridley Scott had indicate that the Earth had LIFE before Mankind and the Engineers would go around and RE-SET their Worlds when they become Displeased or Concerned about their Creations.

Could the Engineers had played a ROLL in the Destruction of the Dinosaurs... i think YES in Context to the Plot/Franchise, could the Earth have had a Intelligent Civilization before Mankind that the Engineers also had taken CARE of so that they can USE the Earth to Seed/Take Humans too?  Again i think thats POSSIBLE.

I think also we cant RULE-OUT that some Engineers Decide to USE their Creation Tool to Create and Evolve Life on some Worlds and Experiments that are something that THEY have NOT been Authorized to do so. They likely have a Ritual Culture some kind of Religion/Cult and WAYS/RULES to Follow, but this does-not mean that ALL of the Engineers would FOLLOW these WAYS and so some could want to go and DO their OWN thing, to Create their Own Society or Sub-Species.

I have said this quite a BIT (Not Thousands of Times) it seems the Engineers are into Creation of Life in a BIG WAY, and that to them its seen as a HONOR and Privilege to DONATE their Body/Soul into Creating something so that they are Immortalized to a Degree in that their Donation means that the LIFE that comes from their Sacrifice is THEM/THEIRS.

The Engineers Plot is BOLD and Potentially has MANY ways it could be Explored or Interpreted and THINGS are NOT set in STONE and so they can CHANGE the Back Ground for the PLOT as they wish or EVEN just leave it AMBIGUOUS.

I think the BASIC way to look at the OPENING SCENE is that YES it could be Earth, it could be Planet 4 and it could be ANY Number of other Worlds, it is just to SHOW us HOW the Engineers begin their Seeding/Evolution of Worlds and this RITUAL has likely been Carried out on Countless Worlds across the Galaxy and BEYOND.

Nice to Revisit some OLD TOPICS...

And as the Replies on here were BEFORE we got Alien Covenant, what we see is that INDEED we have David bringing and Raining HELL on those Engineers.

This made LOGICAL Sense for David as he had become FREE i am sure he would NOT want to be sent Back to Earth to be Harvested for Information then FACTORY RESET.  And he has some NO-SO Fond Memories of the LAST TIME he had met a ENGINEER, he would want some kind of BACK UP PLAN and Protection and so its likely he had Mentioned to Dr Shaw they would be BETTER OFF to take the SHIP with its PAYLOAD as a Insurance Policy.

For David he is a Survivor, he is FREE and would WANT to remain this way and LIVE! and so he LIKELY saw the ONLY GUARANTEED way that HE and Dr Shaw could Survive would be to NUKE! those Engineers with their OWN WEAPON.

Then BANKING on the Engineers having some kind of Repository of Knowledge and History that he could then go through and maybe GET some Answers for Dr Shaw.

Those Engineers seemed to NOT even Suspect what was going to Happen to them, YET they are AWARE of those Ships and so its a Question of are these Engineers Welcoming Back their WAR HEROES... and are so Naive to think there is NO-WAY anyone else could Obtain those Ships or that the Engineers do-not NEVER bring Ships to their Civilized Worlds Carrying any PAYLOADS.

Or do the SHIPS have another more Ritual Use for those Engineers?

Judging by this LEAKED CONCEPT for Alien Covenant 2 Awakening, looks like we would have FINALLY seen the SPACE JOCKEY and YES it was  SKELETON after all ;)

Certainly the Gestation Times are all over the Place in the Franchise, does that IMPACT the Size? Who knows?

As the Protomorph had a Rabid Gestation and seem to be Larger than the Xenomorph Warriors.  The Neomorph also had a Quick Gestation.

When it comes down to the Deacon it would appear this took DAYS.... i think we have to take into Account the Deacon we saw was from Dr Shaw's Fetus (Trilobite) which GREW Big Fast..... but this kind of Face Hugger is a HYBRID and has a LOT of Human DNA and maybe this Impacts the Gestation Time, or maybe when a Engineer is Infected  the Gestation Time is SLOWER.

The Pred-Alien Procreation with the Direct Embryo Implantation was also a VERY FAST Gestation Period.  I think what we have is that the GESTATION is just a PLOT Factor, and so each Movie the Producers/Directors come up with DIFFERENT Speeds to SUIT the PLOT/PACE of the Movie.

With the DRONE maybe it was the Way that Kane was taken Care of when he got back to the NOSTROMO and so in MED-BAY in some kind of Cryo-Assisted Rest/Capsule could account for the SLOWER Gestation?

You could Wonder if this is WHY we saw Sgt Lopes Gestation being Longer? Some could Argue that Orams was much Faster but we have to remember the MOVIE is NOT playing in Real Time....  When Lope gets Infected the £"$£% Hits the Fan and they Quickly attempt to make their Escape.  The Time from when Lope meets up with Daniels and they make their RUN FOR IT to get to the Lander to when they get to the SHIP may be Longer Screen Time.. but David could have been ALONE with Oram for Hours.

It would have been Interesting to see Ridley Scott complete his NEXT FEW Movies and see HOW he would have Explored the Procreation of the Protomorph i would GUESS that he MAY have gone for the EGG-MORPH. I think the Egg Morph makes GREAT SENSE if THIS is How you can Create a Queen.

Finally talking about the QUEEN we did have ALIEN 3 and we saw that the Queen had taken a LONGER TIME to Gestate and so maybe XENOMORPHS that have the ability to Procreate/Reproduce are the ONES that take LONGER to Gestate?

 Watching this again got me thinking that perhaps the reason for the '79 Drone (Big Chap) being larger than its Warrior cousins in '86 was due to gestation time. The Drones might gestate longer when a Queen is absent to ensure a more durable physique. When numbers are not on the Xenomorph's side. When a Queen is present however they can take advantage with numbers so the pheromones excreted by the Hive could speed up incubation for new Aliens waiting to burst. This would explain why the Aliens shown in a Queen-present setting are smaller and more slender than those born without the presence of a Queen.

This would also explain why the Deacon grew (in concept) to be as large as it did.

I still wish and pray someday we get to see what became of the Deacon on-screen but I don't think it will happen unfortunately.

Cool which rank am i

Certainly ;)

I think while the Decision with the Engineers Plot/Creators had opened up the Franchise, it had became a bit LESS ALIEN and Surreal.

Until i saw the Concept work by HR Giger in the late 90's i also saw that the Space Jockey was FUSED to their Chair, i was NOT sure it was a Skeleton but Certainly saw it as Bio-Mechanical like the Xenomorph itself.

The Derelict/Space Jockey seemed VERY ALIEN....

I think they could have Expanded back in History and FITTED with the Themes of Creator, Creation and Rebellion by Introducing the Engineers Creation or WHY they are Needed as Slaves to another Species....

Bring back the STARBEAST ;)

I think the Problem for me is that the CHANGE of a PLOT to make the Sequels to Prometheus become a Prequel that will EVENTUALLY arrive to the Derelict as far as WHEN/HOW/WHY.

And more so they FELT to HOW do you have a Sequel with ONLY a single HUMAN.... so they had the NEED to give us the Covenant Colony Mission and as we are 17-18 Years prior to ALIEN then this meant a LOT had to be Sacrificed as FAR as Screen Time to the Engineers, Dr Shaw and Ultimately the Xenomorph too.

Things had to be MOVED at a Fast Pace, where Character Development had Suffered and Accelerated Xenomorph Life-Cycle was Needed.

When you look at the PLOT A-Z of the Movie then i dont think its so BAD, the David Creator does make Sense when you look at the THEMES of Prometheus.... 

But the PLOT A-Z is something that when your FORCED to try and make it near 2 Hours instead of 3 Hours then you have to CUT CORNERS, and THROW AWAY some Stuff and you cant have Detailed/Lengthy Scenes to SLOW the Pace Down.

As soon as ROSEY when to Clean her Wounds.... and we saw the Neomorph then KILL her..

The Movie went into FAST FORWARDS MODE!

If they had it that ORAM did not Chest Burst, but awoken and could NOT remember what Happened and he was Dragged Out to be Rescued....  with the 2ND Neomorph being the ONE that would KILL Crew Member Cole.

And Oram would be shown to Chest Burst on the Covenant and we had a extra 30-40 Min Running Time then i think the Movie would have been Improved a Little.

 b) The Space Jockey build their Ships and they Created the Xenomorph using their Bio-Mechanical Technology/Ways.

Yes. It would be very interesting to explore. 

Before Prometheus, I imagined the Space Jockey world as a very disturbing place. Dark sky with clouds and endless rains. Huge, oppressive cities and buildings. Complicated interlacing of pipes and brutal mechanisms. The place where the buildings merged with life forms and even landscape.

In any case, I never thought about the Stone Age caves and fairy tale forest. xD

Local inhabitants could also be grown as machines. Most of them have no need to go somewhere or have leisure - they are machines for one work. Like a Space Jockey - just a pilot, who will forever merged with a chair and the ship.

Of course I did not think about ordinary humanoids. But if I thought, then definitely not that they would wear ordinary cloaks like in Lord of the Rings. xD

Aliens could be a form of bioweapon against another civilization or even byproduct / parasites / biomechanical mold of the Space Jockey's civilization.

Missed this Post...

Indeed the First Concepts for Alien Covenant are VERY like Dark Crystal.

I LOVED the Orrery we got in Prometheus, but seeing something like this in Alien Covenant would have been ACE.

THICC xenomorph

that is really cool art tho

I would have THOUGHT that a Xenomorph that came from KIM KARDASHIAN would have been a QUEEN ;)

Its a Nice Rendering but i am NOT sure i am a Fan of the THICK Xenomorph look.

But then i have always Wondered what i would look like had i been Face Hugged lol ;)

Nice to see a Bump on a OLD Topic....

Indeed the ALIEN V project was placed on Hold so that Ridley Scott could at LEAST begin his First Sequel to PROMETHEUS....  The Movie was NOT canceled but was placed on HOLD and RS was to be Producer and so i Suspect that some of the PLOT would be Changed...  Ridley Scott did say that you could introduce Ripley back as you could DE-AGE her so it seemed he was NOT against the making of a Alternative ALIENS Sequel.... he just DID-NOT want it to STEEL the THUNDER from his Prequels or AFFECT what he intends to SHOW.

However..... nearly a Year ago David Giler and Walter Hill did announce they have a ALIEN V Project in the Works, which seemed it would bring back RIPLEY by making some of the Franchise merely DREAMS...

But as the Months went by it became all SILENT on this Front, but then the COVID Pandemic would have Put many Plans in Hollywood on HOLD.

Then along came the Prequel Announcement, and i was Excited and i EXPECTED that the Prequels would show us that the Space Jockey had either (i had studied HR Gigers Concepts a LOT by Now).

*The Space Jockey Created the Xenomorph and the Derelict using some Advanced Bio-Mechanical Technology for USE as a Weapon in some UNKNOWN Conflict.

*The Space Jockey had encountered the Xenomorph or related Organism and Engineered their Technology from it and maybe tried to USE it as a Weapon or Engineered a Weapon from it.

The SPACE JOCKEY had Fallen Foul to the Weapon for some Reason, but i Questioned as to HOW?  But as FAR as WHEN it seemed it had to be Thousands of Years ago.

When Prometheus Arrived i was NOT really Shocked or Disappointed about the Engineers, it FITTED with the Concept work of HR Giger... if i am to ONLY touch on the Connection to the CARGO....

To me i found that Prometheus had enough Clues for me to Conclude... that either.

*The Engineers had Created Advanced Bio-Mechanics and using their Creation Goo they had Carried out Experiments and that the Xenomorph was a RESULT of these Experiments or a Accidental Outcome after the OUTBREAK.

*The Engineers encountered some Ancient Organism that they had used their Creation Goo on Obtaining its Traits to both Create the Xenomorph but also their Bio-Mechanical Technology.

And so i was Leaning towards that there was a Precursor to the Xenomorph and Deacon and the Engineers had began to Engineer/Experiment with this and USE it as a Weapon, and that the Xenomorph was either ONE of the Completed Weapons or something had Happened to Spawn what became the Eggs on LV-426.  I felt more inclined to think the Space Jockey event was AFTER the Outbreak... but maybe it could have been JUST before it.

The Chest Burst Holes in the Dead Engineers in Cryo-sleep had Interested me, and the Hammerpede and i was DRAWN to Consider that the Hammerpedes could be the Precursor to the Xenomorph.

The Space Jockey awakened to go on his Mission only his Cargo was NOT what was Expected.... it had became INFECTED.

When we got to ALIEN COVENANT then that does Change things a LOT.... there are some Inconsistencies but i expect we are to OVERLOOK them.

I have NO doubts at this Point that David had taken the Engineers Attempts of creating Horrific Weapons and he had EVOLVED IT, i do think that AC has SET-UP that those Colonist and Embryos will became WHAT we see as those EGGS on the Derelict.... 

We are just WAITING for WHEN/HOW they get Created, and then for a ENGINEER SHIP with Engineers to come into Play and EVENTUALLY we get to either.

*The Derelict and Pilot is Heading to LV-223 with something to Experiment with but ONLY gets as FAR as LV-426 before becoming Infected and has to Quarantine the Cargo on LV-426.

*The Horrors of David make it to LV-223 where they are EVOLVED to become those Eggs, and the Derelict is in the Process of leaving to UNLEASH those Eggs but the Pilot is Infected and has to Quarantine the Cargo on LV-426.

I am Currently Drawn to the 2nd OPTION but its OPEN as to WHO would make the FINAL EVOLUTION to the Xenomorph from Alien Covenant and to WHO is the Pilot and HOW they get Infected.

I maybe could be OPEN to the Space Jockey being some kind of Savior to the Original Plans of WHOEVER would make the FINAL UPGRADE to the Xenomorph.  But maybe he was ONLY saving his OWN Species?

For me while i FOUND the Space Jockey Scene Iconic when i was younger it was the ALIEN that i was interested in Finding more about in a Sequel, when that Sequel came i was fond of ALIENS and i never really Questioned much about the Space Jockey, until after Alien 3 when we had Closure to Ripley and i assumed the Xenomorph.

I thought about so WHERE NEXT and i was hopeful that the Franchise could Continue even though LV-426 seemed GONE and Ripley was GONE.  And i then often thought about the Derelict and those Eggs and wondered if we would EVENTUALLY discover HOW those Eggs got on that Ship and WHY.

In 1995 i was indeed Drawn to Consider the Space Jockey had OBTAINED the Xenomorph from some Place and had FALLEN FOUL to the Cargo.

About 1997/98 i had came Across a Magazine from a Friend about ALIEN and it allowed me to LOOK at the Space Jockey SET in more Detail and it even had HR Gigers Concept Work........  I had before Noticed that the Xenomorph Hive was similar to the Derelict Aesthetic but it was ONLY after that Magazine it STOOD OUT that there was a Connection.

It made me Question to HOW there was a Connection and to me that LEFT me to Consider...

a) The Space Jockey must be using the Xenomorph Genetics to Build its Ships and use them as a Weapon.

b) The Space Jockey build their Ships and they Created the Xenomorph using their Bio-Mechanical Technology/Ways.

With NEWS of another ALIEN Movie i was at this Point Excited to see WHAT it would be about and Expected maybe we could GO TO the place WHERE the Xenomorph or Space Jockey came from........................

After Alien Resurrection and looking at HOW the Xenomorph DNA had affected Ripley and the Hybrid Mutations etc, it made me YEARN to Find out more about their ORIGINS and the Space Jockey as at this Point i was DRAWN to Conclude.

*The Space Jockey Race created the Xenomorph as a Weapon for some Conflict and it had became INFECTED with its own Payload/Cargo.   I was NEVER 100% sure as to HOW this could have Happened, this was a Mystery in itself (i suspected that ONE of the Face Huggers got Loose).

With the ADVENT of DVD and Internet Access (to more people) in 2001 i became Very Interested in the Space Jockey and more so than the Xenomorph, i had LONGED for maybe getting to see them and Answers one DAY.  During the 2001-2003 Period i was DRAWN to the same CONCLUSION as i Mentioned Prior...

I was HOPEFUL we would get some Answers... but we got AVP.

Wow can't wait

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Love looking back at Alien: Covenant artwork, whether used or unused, some of the best artwork comes out of the Alien franchise, by far.

After 4 years, I find myself liking Alien: Covenant more and more. Those that said it would grow on us over time were absolutely right.

Well its been ALL QUIET at Alien Day.....

I think DISNEY are in NO RUSH.....

Maybe they will SIT BACK and see how the Fireteam Game and the Novels/Comics that Connect to it will FAIR and also the Amanda Ripley Comics.

Then they can maybe GAUGE what the Fans would be Interested in?

Its a BIT Strange we have seen NO more Information/Updates with the FX TV Series. As ALIEN DAY would have been Ideal to Pitch a few Teasers and HYPE the Show!

I Guess we have to BARE in Mind that COVID does make Shooting Scenes Difficult and the Pandemic Certainly has PUSHED other Shows/Movies back as far as SHOOTING Dates etc.

I do have a FEELING that we could KISS BYE BYE to the Prequels and Alien 3/Alien R as Canon... WHEN we do get what DISNEY has Planned.

Maybe its 5 Year Wait..... 2026.... The ALIENS Sequel.

Well its been ALL QUIET at Alien Day.....

I think DISNEY are in NO RUSH.....

Maybe they will SIT BACK and see how the Fireteam Game and the Novels/Comics that Connect to it will FAIR and also the Amanda Ripley Comics.

Then they can maybe GAUGE what the Fans would be Interested in?

Its a BIT Strange we have seen NO more Information/Updates with the FX TV Series. As ALIEN DAY would have been Ideal to Pitch a few Teasers and HYPE the Show!

I Guess we have to BARE in Mind that COVID does make Shooting Scenes Difficult and the Pandemic Certainly has PUSHED other Shows/Movies back as far as SHOOTING Dates etc.

I do have a FEELING that we could KISS BYE BYE to the Prequels and Alien 3/Alien R as Canon... WHEN we do get what DISNEY has Planned.

Maybe its 5 Year Wait..... 2026.... The ALIENS Sequel.

Indeed Chris it would be Interesting to see some of the Drafts by Paglen/Green from 2014 which is what the Supposed Information was from.

Being as though this Information came from 9 Months prior to the Completion of the Alien Covenant Draft it seems there was Changes...  But some things seemed to remained the Same.

*It did appear that Dr Shaw played a SMALL but Important Role, and her ROLE would be to allow David to Create something.

*It does appear in Part that some of the Drawings that David had made of Dr Shaw are the same as what was described as her Fate.

*There was TWO MONSTERS of which ONE was a Creation of Davids.

*And there was more than ONE David Android.

However there was differences like the Monsters were NOT quite the Xenomorph that David created, it was indicated he would Create something like the Ultramorph/Necronom 4 and the other Monster while described similar to the Neomorph it was also supposed to be based off the ORIGINAL HR Giger Concept.

The way it was Described seemed similar to this Concept Work that was for another Alien Project (Red Harvest)

It would seem at some Point they Decided to make David actually be the Creator of the Xenomorph, and then also make the other Monster as based of the Unused Monster from Alien Engineers.

I dont know WHY they Panicked and Felt maybe the FANS would NOT want to see something SIMILAR and that they would NEED to have the Xenomorph Origins given to them instead....

Maybe someday the Drafts from Late 2013 to October 2014 may be released or leaked?

Looks like we wont be seeing the WALTER-MORPH either Now ;)

Looking back at older articles, fun to see how close we got with this leak! I miss the hype surrounding Alien: Covenant, I can't wait for this kind of hype to begin once again for the new TV series.

I think to go back to the OT....

It seems that DISNEY are NOT interested in the Prequels, we did hear about the Giler/Hill Brandywine Project (ALIEN V) which would have gave us Ripley back and looked like it MAY have RELEGATED some of the Franchise to being DREAMS.

But with the ONLY kind of Concrete Project that was in Works being the FX ALIEN TV SHOW... it seems via the PLOT that this would also be Re-Writing some HISTORY.

I dont think you have to RE-WRITE stuff you can ATTEMPT to FIX it which is like what STAR WARS attempted after The Last Jedi disappointment.

The Star Wars Franchise is Consistent, UNLIKE the Star Trek when we had the REBOOTS... and so i would like to see the ALIEN FRANCHISE do a Star Wars rather than a Star Trek in this Regard....

But a TV Show with the PLOT we have would to me be like doing a Star Trek Reboot...

But this was ALWAYS a Prime Concern with DISNEY... i worried under them we would see the Franchise Rebooted and Retconned... like OVER and OVER...

I dont think the PLOT in Part is Bad.... but i think the Time-Setting would be....  The Discovery of a Crashed Engineer Ship at Sea say between 2200-2300 would be FINE.. as WHO was to say the Engineers had NOT sent a Ship to Earth some Thousands of Years ago that Failed its Mission and ENDED UP at the Bottom of the Ocean.

The ONLY Problem with this would be IF the Cargo is Eggs and we have Xenomorphs then THIS would Conflict what we saw in ALIEN COVENANT... and IF this TV Show is set say between 2040-2080 then it would RAISE the Question a bit about ALIEN....

Giving us something that would NOT be a Xenomorph but would have some Connection would NOT go and please some Fans who would EXPECT that we have to have XENOMORPHS.... and i think Quite a Lot of Fans would LIKE this for the Reason it would TOTALLY mean that David could NOT have Created the Xenomorph.

I STAND BY how i feel the Prequels had Enhanced the Franchise, because with the Engineers Experiments and Bio-Weapon they could have given us a PLOT where in the Year 2220 they either Discover a Crashed Ship at Sea either on EARTH or on a Earth like World they had Discovered and Colonized in the Future.

They could THEN have given us a Alternative Xenomorph, say like ABOVE....  But then a LOT of the Problems could have been Avoided had they shown David Created something similar to ABOVE instead.

I have always said the David as Creator can be FIXED by having the Returning Engineers Discover his Xenomorphs even on Planet 4 and taking them to LV-223 to EVOLVE into what becomes those Eggs on LV-426 so the Engineers play the ROLE of those who Began the Process (LV-223/Black Goo) and then FINISHED the Process (LV-426) and David had merely taken the Engineers Work and Evolved it and the Engineers become Impressed and PERFECT the work of David..

JOB DONE... everyone Happy (well maybe NOT).

But such a PLOT... or if they Choose to REBOOT the Prequel Plot... then what we have is WHEN those Engineers had LOADED UP the Derelict, then WHY was that the ONLY Ship?

So they could have other SHIPS that have left and some of these could have been SUCCESSFUL and others could also have CRASHED....

Even as to END UP at the Bottom of a Sea on Earth or some other World in the Galaxy and THIS... is where they could have taken the TV Series....

I think even IF they Ignore the Prequels so Prometheus had NEVER Happened and so we have the Derelict on LV-426 and another is on Earth... i still think thats a MASSIVE MISTAKE.... IF the TV Show is SET before say 2200.

PS:  I will add that the AVP Pred-Alien Concept i modified a LITTLE does look a bit like the Fresco from Prometheus. And so having a Organism like this being Discovered could give some Connection to Prometheus.

A Progenitor to the Deacon, and Xenomorph or just another Alternative Experiment from some other Connected Source?

Even such a PLOT could be used for a AVP Reboot of Sorts, if its indicated the Predator Species with the Black Goo had became what is the Fresco Creature or a Engineer/Fresco Hybrid is what became the Predators ;)