Alien 5 will see the end of Ripley and expose the 'motives' of the Xenomorph!

The point about identifying their primal needs builds on the insights we will receive as to why the Zeno in A L I E N Covenant. As I said some months ago the tieing of A C and A 5 together enables each to strengthen the other. If A C reveals the origins and the why you can not make any more A L I E N movies without informing them with that knowledge.

In effect we have come across the Derelict and seen the effect of them individually and collectively but we know nothing more about them then. A C will deepen that understanding as will A 5. As I have said before once we have all of that apart from turning a grown up Newt into a Soap Opera what more is there to say unless the subsequent and final prequel film (according to Fox) goes off on a tangent or is the second part of a two parter.  

I love how she insists on not knowing what Covenant is called, and highlights their film being on hold. I wonder if there's something personal between her and Ridley, or if she's just pandering to her fan base. Either way, it's a shame. 

Also the mention of the MORB's having a motivation and race is worrying. 

Oops double post sorry!

Aorta, I agree that Weaver's statements sound like she is taking issue with 'Alien: Covenant' or the fact that Ridley Scott and Fox put 'Alien 5' on hold until they finished 'A:C'.  Whatever happens, Blomkamp's movie better not cause issues for the next installments between 'Alien: Covenant' and the original 'Alien'.  Although, I can't see Fox allowing that to happen if they find success in 'Alien: Covenant' and have audiences clamoring for the remaining tie-ins to 'Alien'.

As a huge fan-boy of the 'Alien' universe myself, I've got to admit that it is so exciting to have two 'Alien' films being directed by Hollywood's finest directors. Can't wait to visualize the grandeur these guys bring into their films.

Well she could be vague about what she is saying...

We have to look at the Concept work and we have seen relating to the Xenomorph well not relating to Humans.

* Derelict/Juggernaught in a Hanger of some Human Outpost/World

* A Traditional Xeno Queen from Aliens

* Different variety of Egg/Face Huger

* Different Alien Design that lacks the Tubes on the back and has a more Deacon style domed head.

* Something that looks like the Egg Morph Scene.

* Ripley inside some kind of Engineer related Space Suit

We know the Xeno and Space Jockey had a connection.... we know Prometheus tried to link the Space Jockey to the Engineers.

And so there must be the use of Engineer Technology in Alien 5.... and there was elements that conflicted with Prometheus 2

So maybe Alien 5 will also touch upon more than the Xenomorph? 

Oh I'm dying inside at how bad that sounds.
Ripley's been ended. I can't see how she could be given a better ending. There's a story of a clone of Ripley but that's not Ripley. Again, her story's already been finished. Don't justify this film by saying her story needs finishing.
And giving the xenomorph other motivation... Seriously, I cannot comprehend why anyone would think that is a good idea. I mean, I guess it depends on what the motivation is but still.
Remember when the prequels tried explaining the force?
Remember when the 'Halloween' remake explained Michael Myers?
Or when 'Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers' tried to do it before that?
When has explaining something mysterious from an original film in a remake/prequel ever worked? I cannot think of even one example.

^^you don't wonder what got it so upset?^^

Well, it does sound a bit more interesting now.

I'm still skeptical of Blomkamp's directing style for an alien film, though.

The fact that it's "on hold" makes me think that the studio wants to test the waters and see how much interest there is in a new Alien film (i.e. Ridley's Alien: Covenant) before they greenlight and put another Alien film into production at the same time. So I imagine once Alien: Covenant does substantial business at the box office they will then go full speed ahead with Alien 5.

It is a shame that there seems to be a tad of resentment regarding Weaver and Alien: Covenant. Although her comments about the Alien's primal needs and purpose for existence seem interesting. Perhaps that is what needed inclusion back when Scott and Blowlamp revised the script. With the direction Alien: Covenant is taking the series, it would certainly make sense.

I don't know what to make of this. Is there a video of the interview?

Maybe people are taking her comments too seriously? Out of context?

Sigourney's always seemed to have a very down to earth attitude and I doubt she would be intentionally resentful of Ridley.

After all, he was the person who gave her her big break. And without that break she probably wouldn't have had all the opportunities she had after. So I doubt she meant it has a slap in the face.

I hope not anyway.   

Just glad that Alien 5 seems to be going a direction that would benefit the fans; your own personal hang ups on it are more than subjective for the film will be a Masterpiece. Just have to wait and see the premise A:C truly explores and sets up for the other two movies following.

I am curious as to whether the two remaining follow-ups leading into ALIEN will be released first or if Alien 5 will come out inbtwn those two films..

The upshot of all this is that the original Alien story is getting back on track to where it should have gone, IMHO. 

Love it or hate it, Aliens was an awesome movie, and follow up to Alien.  It just seems natural to me that you would need security forces to go off-world, hence the Space Marines angle made sense to me.  Now whether or not you like the Queen angle, eh, we can talk.

The rest of the movies were crap, again IMHO.

If A:5 gives us an alternate timeline that picks up after Aliens, I'm in.  This would just put to right my all-time favorite movie franchise that I would finally buy the box set to!   

Fuck Cameron! Through his arrogance, he decided not to bother bringing Giger onboard because he thought he could do just as good a job of designing (thieving) Giger's concepts LOL. 

Glad to see I'm not the only one annoyed by James Cameron. I still really enjoy Aliens, mind you, but it's really just a big, dumb fanboy sequel that used all the same themes from the original and only added a cheap emotional component between Ripley and Newt. That being said, I did actually just rewatch Aliens and the Marines annoyed me less this time. It's a fun, well made film. Just not original at all. I happen to really like Alien 3 because it's a bit more original.

Aliens used the male rape element on.... a minor character who got cut from the theatrical version?

Well... Sigourney is 66,  probably won't film A5 until she's 67 or 68! I'd be pushing for a faster release myself. She might be using a cane to wollop them pesky 'morphs.

N4- 

In an interview some months ago, she referred to Covenant as 'Prometheus 2, or whatever it's called', riffing on the name changes as all the skeptics were doing at the time. She knows perfectly well what it's called.

Now she's doing it again. And on google her comment about how Alien 5 'could have been done by now' has already been posted under a current photo of her.

It's already unfortunate how polarized the fan base has become. One hopes she's above that.

Apart from Ripley's outings, when did she last have a decent, starring role? Oh yes, Death and The Maiden....time is catching up with Miss Weaver!

Quotes from the article-

“Well, we have a great script. Fox asked us to delay so Ridley Scott could shoot his [second] Prometheus movie. That was too bad because we would have already done it by now,” she says.

Scott’s film is shooting now and comes out in August 2017, but that doesn’t mean Blomkamp’s Aliens follow-up will start right away. “Now that we’re waiting for that, I have a couple of Avatars to do and Neill has The Gone World,” Weaver says. “So we’ll have to see what happens when we get back, when those projects are over.”

Either way, she sounds determined to revisit Ellen Ripley. “It’s a great story and it’s satisfying to me to give this woman an ending,” Weaver says, which makes it sound like this would be her final go-round as the character. That means resolution — not that Ripley will necessarily die. (Note that she’s died before, and that obviously didn’t end anything.)

Weaver also suggested Blomkamp’s Aliens sequel will delve into the motivation of the aliens themselves, exploring what it is their race has been seeking. “The script itself has so much in it that’s so original, but also really satisfies the, I would say, the primal needs of the aliens,” Weaver says. “It’s a tribute to all of the great work that the other directors have done, in a way, but goes in a completely new direction. I hope we’ll do it.”

This puzzles me, has she forgotten that Ripley already had an ending?

"I hope we'll do it" Surely that means it's not a certainty?

"Apart from Ripley's outings, when did she last have a decent, starring role? Oh yes, Death and The Maiden....time is catching up with Miss Weaver!"

Avatar.

That's if you don't count Finding Dory.

But she wasn't the star of Avatar. It was a supporting role. 

I'm a great fan of the Alien franchise and love em all (well most) ... so I'm not that worried about resentment between the different corners too much, regarding the movies because I'll watch them anyhow and enjoy them ...

I'm more concerned about the "motivation of the aliens themselves" ... I read that as, the Aliens deciding they have a proper brain and all of a sudden want to rule the galaxy ... especially without any ships to do it with, which they cannot pilot ... they are only going to wipe out planets if stupid Humans (or other) TAKE the bloody goo elsewhere ... if not they're stuck where they are ...

I mean come on, they NOW have an agenda? ... they only arise due to other species intervention, i.e. humans & Engineers (so far) ... there hasn't been enough of them around in one place long enough to know how to boil a kettle, let alone deciding they now have a purpose, other than killing what gets in their way ... apart from talking to each other, to spill some acid to escape and a few drones to protect eggs, I can't see (don't want to see) them being more intelligent than that ... and don't tell me their collective minds (memory) are sent down and stored in the eggs (in stasis) each time until they are let loose again ... everytime they become an Alien (Xeno or whatever) they have to start again and learn ... they are born, they get delt with, end of ... the next Alien has to start all over and learn again ...

A killing machine I like and always have done but an intelligent Alien (like this beauty) that's able to actually plan out a scenario? ... nope ... not liking that part at all ... blame Alien 4 for that crap ... and think about it, by the time we get to Alien it's still a bit of a dopey Alien so it hasn't learnt much has it? ... it's an animal with instincts, period ... you don't see a lion going for a gun? ... :) ...

Ok I've calmed down now ... meds kickin' in ...

"But she wasn't the star of Avatar. It was a supporting role. "

So?  She's been working solidly for years.

"I mean come on, they NOW have an agenda? "

They've always had one.  Survive and propagate.

Yes, all living things are designed to Survive and propagate ... but that's not what it sounded like with Weaver's comment, regarding the Aliens ... it sounded more than that ... she didn't have to state the (obvious) fact, that we just have ...

Yeah, her comment does sound a little odd.

@ Lone. Thanks for the additional quotes. This sounds like the making of the film is way off.

As to motives several people here have talked about punishment/retribution. It is not difficult to see how after Covenant, which will explore the origins and reason for the Zeno, that those will contextualise and act as a spring board for the motives. Indeed we know Neil and Ridley have aligned the two films and probably Sigourney is unaware of both Covenants precise story and its interaction."5" has to explore the motives of what is set up in "C".   

Sorry but this sucks, one of the things that is interesting about the Xeno is that there are things that are unknown to it. Compare it to a horror movie where you see the killer 100 times or you just see it once or twice but the rest of the time it is lurking in the shadows so you just see when the people get killed but not the killer, what is more scary? You probably get my point.

I don't want to know what it eats, how it shits, or what its favorite TV shows are. Leave something up to the imagination, please. One interesting thing about the Xeno is that a lot of it is unknown so you can use your imagination, I think that it should stay that way even after Alien 5 is done.

Thoughts_Dreams. If you want to make a menace more menacing then provide it with motive. Thats not to say you become so familiar with it that it loses its sense of mystery. It will still behave the same but knowing why could make the horror even more horrific. The denouement in psycho makes the movie ultimately more horrifying rather than being a routine killing. However once you know the how, why and motive then  eventually you reach a point where there is no more story to tell. Ten movies with Zeno's being horrific outcomes and no gain in knowledge would be dull. One/two movies explaining whats behind it all is intriguing to me. Not interested in the mechanics like you, just the big interesting questions. Indeed there is nothing new to the Zeno's we know what they "do" its an insight into where they come from and why they are the way they are that is intriguing.       

Michelle J: 

I don't think that it becomes more scary when you show a motive because then it gets more understandable and less frightening. Let's compare it to if you walk into a big dark room then you don't know what is in there or how it looks but when you switch on the light then everything is there for you to see so you get familiar with it and then it is no longer scary, this is how I look at explaining the Xeno. Once you explain everything about it then it looses the point so to speak.

One thing that they could use though is if we believe that something scary will happen but nothing happens, that is a way that works at least for me.

I've been sceptical about this from the start, and Weaver's comments don't help one bit. The 'motives' of the alien? That sounds like the worst idea ever. These things are alien to us, we couldn't understand their motives, if they even have them. Giving them motivation of some sort will ruin it. Ash's speech in Alien tells you all you need to know about them, no need to add anything else.

Weaver's comments about finally having an ending for Ripley are a bit silly. She said the same thing when she did A3, even insisting on Ripley dying at the end so she wouldn't have to come back. But she came back for some reason (money, I guess) and fucked up the franchise with A:R. Now she wants closure again? I think the best way to deal with Ripley is to leave the character alone. Anything they add to her story now will just further dilute the franchise.

Explore other aspects of the Alien universe, like Ridley Scott is doing. If Blomkamp is desperate for an Aliens sequel, leave Ripley and Hicks (who's dead too...) out of it. Just make a kick ass action flick with marines vs aliens, introduce a bunch of new characters and go from there. Leave Ripley dead and buried (well, burned up...).

It's like gonzo and Michelle said.  Alien could mean anything at this point. But if we are talking about the xenomorph then holy Dorey fish poop on a sjw.  The xenomorph has lost all mystery and scarryness.   It has been so over staturated,  it's nothing but a childs play thing now.   It's been parodied in space balls, ninja turtles cartoon animaniachs and soo much other media it just gets worse as years go by.

and who's to say they are "explaining everything?"    This will make the xenomorph much more interesting.    Horror can always be found in new ways.

 i really don't see why a negative in the xenomorph having an agenda or purpose.  Most of these people I'm assuming who disagree are people aged way below the speed limit who just want to see cheap Michael bay garbage action with xenos.     Rather than some deep thought out psychological horror.         

Imagine that the Liquid is as old as the universe, that it's an industrial waste from the process of making reality, and that it is programmed to punish, to death, whatever steals it.

Edit: ^what I should have said above is 'one hopes Weaver is above making the divisions worse, because she could make it much worse'.^

UFOANAUT:

They might not explain everything but enough to not make it scary. If there are some parts of it that haven't been explained then don't do that because then there are something that we can make up in our heads which makes it more interesting when it comes to movies. Sorry but I don't see how this will make it more interesting.

"Most of these people I'm assuming who disagree are people aged way below the speed limit who just want to see cheap Michael bay garbage action with xenos.    Rather than some deep thought out psychological horror."

I don't want to see that either but if you show it too often then it becomes known and familiar so then there isn't a threat anymore.

This is what Jaws was missing.

We needed motivation for why the shark was mad.

/sarcasm

Durp004: LOL! :D

Guys I do understand everyones concerns and it could go horribly wrong particularly the Hicks/Ripley storyline.

However gaining an understanding of why the Zenomorph is what it is and knowing for instance how much more connected they are with mankind could make them more real not closer in but less a long skulled, acid for blood, son of a bitch and something we have more reason to be scared of because there actions are less random than we thought.  

The surprise and unexpected terror doesn't have to be compromised because there is something out there which we have better handle on what they are trying to do it can make the threat more real.  

Wow.  There's seems to be a lot of hate for Cameron vs Scott.  Granted if he stiffed Giger then yeah he was being a dick, but I really liked his concept of introducing some Space Marines into the mix, even if the portrayal was a little juvenile.  They looked and acted like Vietnam Grunts, not warriors from the future. 

Anyways I liked the concept of getting the military involved, even if you don't like the director and the way he handled it.  Let's say Ridley did a re-make and got it right.  It's a natural story progression from Alien.  If Alien:5 follows up from there, I think the story will have the right progression, IMHO, instead of getting off-tangent with what the other directors did.

If Cameron pisses you off that much, then how about a Alien:2 remake, with Alien:5 (3 in the alt timeline), and the rest of the new films.  In fact I'm all for re-doing them all, including the original, to update the sets/FX/etc to current standards.

If they were all (re)done by one director, namely Scott, that would be a plus in my book. 

As for the Alien "motivation" or whatever.  I think that is us projecting our thought process on a totally alien being.  I don't think individual thought or motivation, code of ethics, or whatever enters into their minds.  It's a hive mentality, with the prime directive being to kill, eat, reproduce.  As Kane so admired, a "purity" of purpose.  Without any philosophical theory to justify it.       

Michelle: Let's compare it to a match in hockey. You got to keep an eye on your opponents and they can come at you from left and right front and back you got more to worry about if they attack you from all angles than if they would just come at you from the left because if they just come at you from the left you know what will happen.

The same thing goes for the Alien movie: if you know a lot that the Alien can do or why then it becomes less scary but if you are not sure about something then it becomes more unknown and more of a threat.