Raiken Sigma
MemberOvomorphDec-21-2022 12:27 PMGotta say this working title is kinda funny, reminds me of the working title for The Force Awakens - "Blue Harvest". I've not seen this Fede Alvarez films, but i'm hearing he's quite talented in the horror/suspense area. Gotta say i'm really not liking the main casting choice of Callie Spaney, yet another White Brunette as lead of a ALIEN film, boring.
Can't we have a guy for once? Or if it has to be a Woman still, they could atleast make it interesting and casting someone ethnic. We don't get many Asian women cast in especially sci fi movies. If it were me i'd have cast the Indian woman from the ANDOR series, i liked her.
In all honesty i'm none too interested in this new ALIEN Film Reboot, imo rebooting ALIEN is sacrilidge, especially when we still havnt had the main canon universe completed yet, through a proper connection of Ridley's prequels to his O.G. Alien Film of 79.
Another thing i keep thinking is, what other totally original design can you do for a whole NEW "Xeno/Alien"?? The Deacon and Neomorph from Prometheus and Covenant were outstanding designs, felt very kind of primitive.
I don't know what to think of this, what if it ends up like Terminator Dark Fate!? Or the Recent Resident Evil tv series on Netflix; where it's like mostly unrecognizable to ALIEN.
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianDec-21-2022 12:59 PMhey never got a white Blonde or a white Redhead protagonist yet.
Chris
AdminEngineerDec-21-2022 7:28 PM@Raiken Sigma, Welcome to the forums!
To build off your comment I agree I'm a bit hesitant to be optimistic regarding the Cailee Spaeny casting since her performance in Pacific Rim: Uprising didn't do anything for me - however I was skeptical of Katherine Waterston's casting in Alien: Covenant and she ended up delivering a solid performance.
As for the female lead topic in general, it's an iconic Alien trend and I think the connection between the female lead and the Alien essence go hand-in-hand more intimately than a male character would, imo. The undertones of creationism and evolution are mirrored by a woman's unique and exclusive ability to create and support life. The maternal instincts to protect her crew / loved ones are more prevalent in female characteristics as well rather than male ones - which tend to take a more sigma approach in many leadership roles. Furthermore the Alien can't be beat by brute force, its always needed to be outsmarted and in many cases females have a cunning edge in survival situations whereas men (I being one) tend to rely on force to overcome an adversary - perhaps I'm generalizing and biased in my assumptions but that's a few reasons why I think the female lead works so well with Alien specifically.
The downside with continuing the female lead trend in Alien is each one will always be compared to Sigourney Weaver's Ripley and so far, none of them have measured up to the badassery Sigourney brought to the character and the role. So, I guess it's a double edged sword, on one hand the female lead is an iconic trend of the franchise and lends more suspense to the plot but the legacy of Ripley we expect them to live up to is a high bar to reach.
Either way, I'm intrigued and happy to see another Alien movie in production.
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerDec-25-2022 4:27 AMDavid and Walter were raised by Peter Weyland. David killed Walter and founded the city of Origae-6.
Jonesy
MemberFacehuggerDec-26-2022 2:05 AMso excited, i am looking forward a 2024 to be a Alien year
Thoughts_Dreams
MemberNeomorphDec-28-2022 7:12 AMI don't know why, but I like the title (if that's the title). Hopefully it'll be as little tied to the old things as possible, so it'll be able to do its own thing. They have an opportunity to add some new stuff here.
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerDec-28-2022 11:53 AMThe engineers are the monsters of the future and the future of the franchise, what is incredibly ironic, because they probably are the most ancient beings in the Alien Universe. The Neomorph and the Deacon are great monsters (i would love to see again the Trilobite, not the fossil as it´s shown on the picture below). They all deserve at least a second appearance on the big screen . As for David, i would love to see his end, even if they do it in a flashback of a few minutes, or showing him eviscerated by his own creations, i only want to see an end. David being terminated by a Xenomorph is the ideal end, at least, for me. I don´t need to watch a reconnection to the Alien 1979 movie.
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerDec-28-2022 11:57 AM A trilobite fossil. Astonishing.
Chris
AdminEngineerDec-29-2022 6:10 AM@setaverde, Agreed the Deacon and Neomorphs were great additions to the lore. I really hope to see them again someday in a future film although I think the Trilobite was a very unique, accidental creation I doubt we would get to see a similar series of events play out in that specific way to lead to one again.
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-18-2023 5:27 AMI think Disney are doing a kind of RESET with the Franchise, i am NOT sure we will be touching upon the Prequels at all.
We know nothing much about this Movie, the Plot seems a bit like ALIEN COVENANT, i can only go and Assume its Premise is similar as in we have a Smaller Group of Humans (20s and 30s) looking to Colonize a New World.
The Plot i can only ASSUME would be similar to Alien Covenant with the Following Changes.
1) Maybe this World is Uninhabited a Virgin World and so like Planet 4 from Alien Covenant if say there was NO ENGINEER CITY!
2) It would thus be like Alien Covenant had the Crew came to a Virgin World as far as NO CIVILIZATION, but at some point they come across some PLACE where there will be XENOMORPH EGGS.
So i can Assume it would be like if Alien Covenant had those Eggs in a Cave or something and there was NO CITY, NO DAVID and the Covenant Crew had began to SET UP their Habitat and then they make a Horrific Discovery and so it would be a bit like Raised by Wolves (Minus Robots).
Will it Connect to the TV Show? Will it be its OWN THING? we just dont know.
Is it a Alternative Canon or not? again we cant be sure at this Point. We have NO IDEA of what Time-Line the Movie is SET IN..
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-18-2023 5:31 AMRegarding the NAME.... it depends if this is a Working Title....
If the Title remains the same then we cant Assume to have connection to the Romulus Legend... it could have Vague Connections or NONE at all. If you try and Read into the LEGEND... then you could maybe be drawn to David and Origae-6 but i DOUBT this Movie will be Connected to the Prequels at all.
Hopefully a New World.... and NOT going back to LV-426
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianApr-18-2023 5:54 AMYeah we need a new xenomorph world that isn't LV-426
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-20-2023 5:49 AMI think it depends on WHAT they do with the Xeno-Origins.... its Pretty Messed Up at the Moment, yet the RS idea makes Perfect Sense.
Did the Xeno Originate from somewhere else?
If it Originated from LV-223 or Planet 4 then we could ask.
a) Was LV-426 and Planet 4 the ONLY place these Experiments had Ended up on?
b) What was the Origin of the Xenomorph DNA, if it came from another Organism then WHERE was this Organism Obtained from?
Another things comes down to the TIME-LINE... its been a bit Mish Mash since the Prequels.... Prior to them and IGNORE all other Formats.. it was a Case that at some point the W-Y company was aware of something on LV-426 and so Special Order 937 was then Set in Motion and we got ALIEN.
Did the Company just draw a BUST after this? WHY had they NOT gone back to LV-426.
When we get ALIENS it seems that things ONLY kicked off when Ripley had informed them of the Xenomorph and the Company sent the Jordens to investigate, HOW did the Company not be aware of that SHIP so close to the Outpost?
After Aliens/Alien 3 we had to ASSUME that there was NOTHING to be Gained from LV-426 or anywhere Else... which is WHY the USM company had to Resort to Clone Ripley DNA to Obtain a Queen (yes Silly Plot).
But then the SCOPE for another Movie or Comics and Games are Limited with such a Time-Line and Locations etc... and so EACH had Various ways to Deal with this and Bring back the Xenomorph.
The Question is HOW do you do that without Conflicting the Movie Franchise and well the Prequels had kind of caused a Conflict for some...
But then its HOW do you do this, and HOW can you bring back the Xenomorph and NOT have it be Similar or the Same to anything we have seen Before.... this is WHY i think ALONE the Xenomorph is Limited.
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianApr-20-2023 7:07 PMI wasn't suggesting looking for the xenomorph homeworld. I want to see several undiscovered planets that were devastated by the xenomorphs in the distant past.
Engineer77
MemberOvomorphJan-26-2024 9:14 AMSo no sequel to Covenant?! I want to know what happens to David and the Engineers!
Engineer77
MemberOvomorphJan-26-2024 9:14 AMSo no sequel to Covenant?! I want to know what happens to David and the Engineers!
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianJan-29-2024 4:12 AMEngineer77
Unfortunately Noah Hawley wants to erase the Alien prequels because of a false notion that he thinks that evolution would create the perfect being.
MonsterZero
MemberXenomorphJan-29-2024 5:36 AM"evolution would create the perfect being"
Yeah, without a Xenomorph homeworld backstory, showing the face-huggers evolving over millions of years(....and just happened to produce a humanoid monster?? The Queen looks like this and the drones look like that!??) .
No...A genetically modified creature makes way more sense. A military supersoldier project or something. Playing God is more tantalizing IMHO than an evolved bug.
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianJan-29-2024 10:48 AMMonsterZero
Well I was going to say the xenomorphs are more like highly advanced robots given their biomechanical nature. The Queen still works with the "advanced robot" motif, she is basically a factory for the eggs. She is always pregnant because her creators engineered her this way, she has no mate because she is a factory.
The Drones, Workers, Warriors, Praetorians fit toolness of the xenomorph. Like with war machines, you don't build one type of airplane to do everything, you multiple different classes of aircraft or tank to do specific things.