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With regard to your initial posting...Maybe it's part of the Derelicts signal...does that make any sense even?

The piece of scrap on fire looks to be part of this (same colour scheme): [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheus_moviepic.jpg[/img] Check out the detailing on the right hand side; especially the black and yellow stripes - they match!

Looks like the Nostromo and Prometheus land on the outer-most moon/planetoid from the pic seen from Alien of LV-426's skyline. Looks like Prometheus backs this up by having the system, in order, go - Gas giant with rings, brown moon 1, white moon, brown moon 2 aka LV-426.

wow, I just realized, If memory serves correctly LV-426 was/is a ringed planet.

Nope sparks, Acheron LV-426 was one of the moons/planetoids in orbit around the ringed planet supposedly called "Calpamos" (source - [url=http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/LV-426]Xenopedia[/url]). As shown by the image BM has posted from Alien showing the ringed planet in LV-426's skyline.

Simple answer to that BM, the Prometheus doesn't approach a white planet, it approaches a cloudy planet (recall the end of Aliens).

Yup, Snorkelbottom (great username btw) is right. Acheron was a moon orbiting the ringed giant

Not necessarily... Look at it this way - Earth, from orbit - on a clear day (weather wise) looks green and blue, but on a cloudy day is... well, covered with clouds.

Another example... Mars - on a clear day all of its features can easily be seen, but when a sandstorm hits it just looks like an orange (yes orange, NASA have admitted to "Redding" up images of Mars) ball of dust. Also in Aliens the air was only completely breathable near the processor (Newts parents wearing oxygen masks before entering the derelict).

ok, it was a moon of LV-426, and that seems actually even more correct if memory serves...and makes better sense, thanks for correcting me there "Snorky".

Biomechanic... You are comparing temperatures and conditions which are for our intents and purposes, partial to events that happened 30 years apart form each other at least. In Aliens, the atmospheric processors are Only set up on Lv-426 between the time Ripley surives her INITIAL battle with the creature and 57 years later when she is "picked up buy the company". Van Luin tells Ripley it takes "decades". What they call "A Shake and Bake Colony" !!! If this is all happening 30 years before Ripley is born even, than there are No Atmospheric processors on LV-426 !!!

they look quite different indeed ... both are barren even if the LV426 both from aliens and fron alien did look much more rough ....vulcanic rocks for sure and vulcanic activity . Here everything look ...stable ...cold ... and in a planet so small i dont think you can have two so different environments .

That flash if very interesting. I don't know what you guys think, but it looks as if there is some sort of hurricane going on. When the "Prometheus" decends onto the planet, the clouds still seem to have a circular motion to them, but the ship is covering up the center of the storm. Also notice that when the ship is decending into the mountains, all the mountains are covered with snow.. then we have dry barren land. And the size of the sun is relativley small in the prometheus movie, compared to LV-426. So those are a few things I noted.. So I don't think in the first picture posted, that the planet is related to LV-426.

lol....seriously...i never thought of myself as a geek?....but reading threw this.....the mere fact that i got this far...i guess I am one!...if so much as one pixel changed on any frame of the trailer it will promote some thread or speculation!....I am not immune to this....but still....very funny!

Maybe the ship crashing is the result of an accident then...only 6 months 15 Days 3.5 Hours 37 minutes and 8.4 seconds until we find out for sure though.

once again I feel compelled to point out that the weather, atmospheric conditions, and the landscape, all may have been drastically altered in the 30 years between Prometheus and Alien.

it's 5 months...one week and 3 days!...get it right sparky..;)

To Ridley Scott, the concept of continuity is Very Important Deal !!!

My apologies I was not being confrontational but rather wrote what i did Because of your questioning it all at the end of your post...And of course, because despite how much we all beat it over the head, in a nice way I mean, the odds are drastically in favor of that planet being nothing other than LV-426.

IMO Ridley Scott is the kind of director that will watch every scene in this thing over and over and over again for just that, continuity errors and will order that several editing changes are made as he finds such anomolies, and would never, ever, allow this thing to go public until he was absolutely convinced it Works !!! I bet he is waking up at 4 a.m. these days in a cold sweat after realizing in his dreams what needs to be adjusted. In a way, his reputation IS HINGING on all of this and should he end up making some massive mistake no one is ever going to let him forget it and he is reluctantly tuned into this and focused on it's massive implications for his own career, or what's left of it, I am quite positive.

I would just love that Bio, that's a fantastic idea, but at the same time I fear that as someone else mentioned, the events in the trailer have got to be part of that "Last 8 minutes" Ridley was referring to. For what it's worth I really hope we see a lot more happening on LV-426 than just the film coming together at the end on itself there.

I've heard that before and wondered the same thing...He must have been drunk. I hear he likes scotch a lot !!!

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"I am toying with a two planet scenario" Must be: the waterfall with the saucer over it looks Earthlike, and the party testing its flamethrowers appears to be setting out onto somewhere harsh but habitable (Iceland!) whilst the crash scenes look like an airless Moon. I still don't get the significance of the shots of conventional centre-line-marked asphalt road though...unless this is movie people's code for "A journey takes place".

Why does everyone assume that the crashed ship in the trailer will be the derelict from Alien? It could be a completely different ship and planet. Remember, it's not a prequel per se--it doesn't have to directly lead into Alien, it just involves elements from that universe. BTW, does anyone have a screen shot from that flicker of static with the end credits during the trailer? I grabbed it but I don't know how to post it here. Anyone have any idea what it could possibly be?

I also read somewhere today as matter of fact, that The Engineer's may have sent out several ships that all look the same. It could be possible, however unlikely it may seem.

I believe the two planet theory is very likely. I'm also convinced the crew land on LV426 at some stage whether it's during the last 10 minutes or not I'm not quite sure. But the trailer shows two distinct planets one lush and well developed the other barren and dull. We could be into a scenario of good planet/bad planet. The jockeys could have developed the bad creatures on LV426 a small planetoid while keeping the large terra-formed planet for their greatest creation man.

The shots of Shaw being blow away might be reminiscent of the weather encountered by the Nostromo crew.

Good point Biomechanic. I know that the Alien SJ was the jumping off point for Prometheus but I wonder if Ridley wound up taking the story in a different direction. Also, I don't think the SJ ship in the trailer necessarily crashes--I personally think it smashes the human craft purposely and then lands on the planet--it appears undamaged after destroying the relatively human ship.

I noticed that too. You can see fire streaming off of it just after the impact, but after impacting the ground and starting to roll, it looks completely intact. Smashing your hull directly into the ground would be a weird way of landing, that's for sure.

if its the alien ship smashing the "prometheus" then the face of cpt janek is explained :p

[quote]Biomechanic › Posted 12/28/2011 That is weird. If you put "Ridley Scott promises "nasty" Alien prequel in 3D" in a google search it will be the first one.[/quote] I just saw what you wrote BIO and thank you for doing that for me, however when I just tried it I got the same message, if it costs nothing or very little to subscribe I might do it but I did not check, do you know if it does or not? TX for any info, wanna read it.

gotcha, thanks man

To go from the geology depicted in the trailer to the geology of the LV-426 we are familiar with in [i]Alien[/i] in a period of thirty years is a non-starter. IMO, there are three possibilities: [list=1] [*] They are different worlds with different spacecraft of the same class/model. [*] It is indeed the same spacecraft but crashes twice on two different worlds. [*] It is the same spacecraft, but as one plot-line suggested, by means of time-travel, it crashes aeons before [i]Alien[/i], thereby allowing geological processes to sculpt the landscape we are more accustomed to. [/list] Personally, I hate all three, but dismissing each and every one of them leaves only ineptitude on the part of Ridley, which is an impossibility. I'm basking in the intrigue this uncertainty creates!

To go from the geology depicted in the trailer to the geology of the LV-426 we are familiar with in [i]Alien[/i] in a period of thirty years is a non-starter. IMO, there are three possibilities: [list=1] [*] They are different worlds with different spacecraft of the same class/model. [*] It is indeed the same spacecraft but crashes twice on two different worlds. [*] It is the same spacecraft, but as one plot-line suggested, by means of time-travel, it crashes aeons before [i]Alien[/i], thereby allowing geological processes to sculpt the landscape we are more accustomed to. [/list] Personally, I hate all three, but dismissing each and every one of them leaves only ineptitude on the part of Ridley, which is an impossibility. I'm basking in the intrigue this uncertainty creates! An afterthought is: what if the trailer itself is misleading (deliberately or otherwise)? Remember the [i]Predators[/i] trailer where we see the depiction of Adrien Brody's character being tagged by multiple Predator shoulder-cannon crosshairs - I missed that in the movie! Bad sport but it does happen.

I agree with you Starbeast... There maybe more than one Space Jockey craft.. One maybe even called Prometheus. The way the derelict ship crumbles is odd.. it looks like the left "horn", falls to the right side.. then something else falls down next to the left "horn" if that makes sense..

danrald, Not sure which part of the trailer you refer to but your thoughts remind me of my own puzzlement at a particular point in the trailer - perhaps one and the same as yours. Around about 58 seconds into the trailer we see a clip of the Rapace and Theron characters in the foreground running away, while behind them the "derelict" is falling down. However, notice further back, and to the left, there seems to be another object coming to rest. I'm intrigued as to what and where that is from - I've persuaded myself it is not a part of the "derelict", but what could it be?...

Starbeast.. we are on the same page. That whole action piece seems to be sequential. But we don't know what hit the derelict, or there could have been more pieces to the derelict that we don't know about. Something exploded in midair away from the derelict, but it (the derelict) got hit in one spot.. when it lands upright you can see the smoke coming out of it. The arial view also show things burning around it.. Shaw is on the side of the 3 rings ("vaginal entrances" as Giger calls them) on the ship. But then both the horns fall in the same place. Which is odd.. unless there is another ship.. You said "notice further back, and to the left, there seems to be another object coming to rest". The "further back object" is the right sided horn from the arial view. Well at least to me it look like it.. none the less, it would be odd for the ship to crumble like that.. Note! This is not the same ship as the one in Alien, but it looks like it, the one in mid air is missing some pieces that was in the original Alien.