Space Jockey communications with Prometheus Crew

Jeffomorph, that's just one of the aspects of this film I'm looking forward to. If not telepathic communication, but some sort of voice/verbal, I think some bizarre sound effects will be called for this and many other things no doubt. Can't wait.

would be more mysterious if they spoke among themselves without anyone understanding what they say. would be too much like star wars/trek if they spoke english lol

Did you just call David Data in some weird Freudtrekian slip?

What made Alien great was that there was no communication with the xeno. It was just there to eat and breed. No negotiations, no truce. When's the last time you held a conversation with your chicken nuggets? It's simply there to serve a purpose. Food. Did you apologize to them for eating them? Did you think it was necessary? I hope there is no communication. I feel the SJ's are a single minded race who are only interested in furthering species (theirs/others?) whether that species agrees or not. Think Ligers. Did we ask their permission to screw around with the gene pool? I hope SJ's are void of communication, consideration and conscience.

When's the last last time you had to ask a Liger for permission to screw with its gene pool? How about your chicken nuggets? Do you ask them permission/apologize to them before eating them? I think/hope the SJ's won't communicate. They won't need to. It's not necessary to their mission. Breed/eat/repeat. That's what made the first Alien so mysterious, there was no communicating/negotiating with it... only surviving... or not.

i guess a distress signal or sos/warning or whatever it was is not considered communication then?

How are they going to tackle the overwhelming evidence for primordial man the huge head if we are to believe is some monument to man or the creators of men must address mans early development ie Neanderthal and the lineage from that point onwards. Unless of course we go into the adam and eve scenario and eve was created from the ribs of a space jockey aghhhh.

I'm with Db on this one, conversing with us would be like us trying to converse with an ant. Although there has to be some way the crew become aware of their malevolence. if they speak English, it just wont be right.

i always thought women were another species lol

@alteredstate: Sure it is. I stand corrected as to the literal definition of communication. Was it code? Binary? Morse? Whatever it was, was it an invitation to an ambush? Or does Shaw leave it as a: "stay the f___ away", before the chestburster kills her inside te SJ suit?

you could be right there with the last comment db

[quote]How do you think the Space Jockeys and/or Engineers will communicate with the crew of Prometheus?[/quote] With a heap of dirt thrown in their face from the ship landing. I'm starting to doubt we'll have any verbal communication at all with the jockey's. We'll just be observers, making our own mess and problems before finding out "it's not all about us". Shaw might even see the jockey(s), with her and David figuring out bits along the way. Ridley loves all that implied stuff.

[quote]How do you think the Space Jockeys and/or Engineers will communicate with the crew of Prometheus?[/quote] With a heap of dirt thrown in their face from the ship landing. I'm starting to doubt we'll have any verbal communication at all with the jockey's. We'll just be observers, making our own mess and problems before finding out "it's not all about us". Shaw might even see the jockey(s), with her and David figuring out bits along the way. Ridley loves all that implied stuff.

Theres always the possibility that the tall guy is a messenger between the Space Jockeys and Us.

Yes snorkel bottom i was wondering that its part them part us and is translating sounds a bit corney though not the sort of thing Ridley would come up with or like

depends on how it was handled, as a translator it would suck, but as a "butler" with an agenda, that might be interesting.

IMO the tall/bald guy is more important than a servant, butler, or mechanic. That big giant noggin of his in the ampule room shows his importance and leads me to believe that he IS the big kahuna in the story. There are two possibilities. He is a Jockey sans suit, or he and the Jockey are seperate species. If it's the latter, my guess is that the Jockeys answer to him. @Biomechanic Thanks for catching my David/Data slip lol I assure you it wasn't intentional. Now back to the communication theory--I think the ultimate creep factor would be if they beings completely ignored the crew for the most part. Then when somebody messes up or takes something they shouldn't, they finally turn their attention to the crew... And that is a bad thing.

One idea (pretty much mine to be honest) could be that the icon, the big head is a representation of what man will look like in a thousand or so years. Thus when we arrive on the planet our greeter is an example of that, a highly evolved human born by the Space Jockeys to relate information to us, our history, our purpose etc. Maybe he is Prometheus...

I like the "ant" comparision of Enderwiggin. But I think things will develop differently. For one thing: the baptism name of the movie itself speaks volumes. There is a strong suggestion of a tentative of "cathcing up". Thus I think that SJ´s will do everything to us but ignoring us.

@Snork You think this highly evolved human (blue guy) steals something from The Gods, then tries to escape, and the Gods unleash their biological weapon against him, which bursts through his chest, while he is in the chair/control seat...

could be?

I thought the way they solved this problem in the film called Sphere was innovative: the alien communicated through the computer. But that's not really going to work when we are on the alien's territory. You guys remember Close Encounters of the Third Kind? Again, using light and sound to communicate was far advanced of its time. I hope Prometheus can equal that level of innovation.

I´ve seen this blue guy as a highly evolved human, since I watched the trailer for the first time. But why would he steal something from The Space Jockeys/Gods...?

I don't know, maybe to pay for his cookie habit

I think he's one of 2 or even possibly 3 separate species/classes, all using bio-suits literally made out of the old Elder Gods; and that the communication theory might not be too far off. The Jockey class/the Titans are the last of these Elder gods from the myths. What if the blue guy represents the demi-gods(Krishna, Herakles etc.) from the mythology, only set in space? A cross between man and god, that the "gods" engineered. He can communicate with Shaw through some ancient language only she and David can understand. I think the Jockey class represents the Titans, like others do, but the original six Titans were called the Elder gods, and the chief deity Kronos has much to do with the creation of the cosmos. In some myths Prometheus also had a hand in creating man from clay. So, this class and by extension the Titans, are practically more Godly than the more anthropomorphic Olympian "gods" like Zeus, and are the first creators if you place the tales chronologically. Now these Olympian "gods" are the possible third class I mentioned. Being higher up the ladder than the demi-gods possibly. Alternatively, there could be two sizes, or types of the bald blue guys, plus the Jockey/Titan/Elder god class. In my theory the tall blue guy we see represents a demi-god , and the Jockey class is what remains of the Elder Gods. Now a slave race, and almost extinct (Ridley has hinted at the one in Alien being one of the last of its kind). The gods acquired the engineering tech when they overtook the Elder gods, on Earth/Gaia in the ancient past (Zeus castrating Kronos in myth), making them a subordinate class before humans Earth humans (those who would become demi-gods) came into the fray. I predict the blue guy sort of represents the demi-god Herakles. Much more than a butler, he's the one who frees Prometheus from being bound/punished eternally, and that could start the whole mess in the movie.

I think the blue guys could represent the demi-god class (Krishna, Herakles etc), a mixture of man and god, and could be a subordinate class in a way. The communication theory with them as an intermediary between humans and other classes could be not too far off. Maybe Shaw and David can understand something close to an ancient language. However, I think one of the blue guys will actually somewhat represent Herakles. The demi-god who is sort of on the side of the humans, and frees Prometheus from being eternally bound/punished. Starting the whole mess in the movie. The thing is the original Titans were called the Elder Gods and the chief deity Kronos was much more Godly than the Olympian gods who later overthrow the Elder Gods (Zeus castrating Kronos in myth). What could be the Jockey class/Titans/the remaining Elder Gods were later said to be involved in the creation of man, in Prometheus's case. The Jockey really could be a subordinate class now as well. If you look at the myths chronologically, the Elder Gods are the ones responsible for the creation of the cosmos and planets, but later fall from their position in the heavens. There could be multiple classes, and we're only seeing the most humanoid hybrid. All using the bio-suits literally made out of the bodies of the defeated Elder gods (Ridley has hinted the original Jockey came from an almost extinct civilization). In ancient times, near Gaia, the gods overthrew the Jockeys/Elder Gods and acquired their bio-engineering tech and/or the suits. After that point Earth humans and demi-gods were created. Or, there could even be some interbreeding involved with Neaderthal and Cro-Magnon man, like a popular theory that's recently emerged in anthropology based on the fact that we find traces of at least Neanderthal genetics in some groups' DNA.

Mala, That does semi fit into the Ancient Astronaut Theory that Ridley has supposedly gotten some of his inspiration from. A lot of the elder civ's had many parallels to be just coincidental. We need to go back and dig a bit deeper into the Pantheon of the Gods that the Sumerians worshipped. If you follow this path all the Gods and Titans before them usurped the throne from a previous God King. Dig into Zechariah Sitchin's Earth Chronicle Books these are based on Sumerian Translations that Sitchin did over the years. Regards, Rick

If we're reading into the Prometheus legend somewhat literally... Didn't the guy end up with a permanent hole in him? Hmmm...

So to get back on topic since we went off topic. I think there will be some sort of communication between us and them. Otherwise why leave 12 second beacon? Granted i think they'll ignore uss for the msot part like someone else stated then once we touch, move or do something that they don't like suddenly the spotlight shifts. Rick

Db, Yes the Liver is EVIL it must be punished ! LOL, Rick