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Hello fellow Aliens - I found this article by a religious type - it's a bit "God Squad" but is well worth a read as it tries to place the Space Jocky mythology along side the Bible and the work of Eric Von Danekin (who wrote Chariots of the Gods) [url=http://beginningandend.com/prometheus-movie-return-alien-gospel/]Read it Here[/url] Let me know your thoughts.

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RickK
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Nothing in the Bible indicates that God was not an alien, higher life form, whatever - it was written from the point of view of people who experienced something they had nothing to reference it to and were describing things as best as thier limited understanding would allow. I don't think the "ancient aliens" theory would invalidate anything in the Bible.
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typical babble. god is obviously a man made concept so if their premise is predicated on the existence of such a being, sorry, i won't be joining your cult.
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I agree, I think god was probably an alien...
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god is a dj everyone knows that lol.... disc jockey space jockey its the same thing.
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The Space Jockey is Dave Lee Travis lol

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[img]http://www.wwwcomcom.com/gallery/paintings/3.jpg[/img] heres proof
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@alteredstate: LOL!!
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WWED? (What Would Ezekiel Do?)
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Well i assume that god is eitherimmaterial unlike the description in the bible Or in another dimension also Referred as heaven. Do doubt he And the angels would be aliens XD anyway. Its a movie and unlike Ridleys Black Hawk Down not based On human history but is a sci fi Movie.
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Those people are batshit crazy. I've seen UFO's, actually sat and stared at one with my ex on our way home one night from the movies (we'd just seen the original Spider-Man so aliens were the last thing on our minds,) it was just hovering above some houses for about 10 minutes and then started to drift off slowly. We weren't the only ones that saw it either, we were actually stopped at traffic lights when we spotted it and people were getting out of their cars to look at it. And it wasn't the first time I'd seen something like it either. However, I've never seen an Angel, God or the Devil, nor met anyone that has. When I do I'll start believing, but until then, and remember the End of Days is supposed to have happened a few times by now according to their little fiction, I'll hold onto the idea aliens created us. I actually thought this for years before I came across any of the books that other people had written on the subject.
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Did people know the star map was found on Mars? I thought they found it on Earth
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What a boring pseudo-religious viewpoint compared to all the interesting and thoughtful theories on this forum.
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Cypher (and of course anyone else) It's sad, but true that there are cults in existence that predict things like the end of days. They do many things that make believers look bad, or quite ignorant in most cases. They don't make us look ignorant because of what they actually are, they do it because they CLAIM to be Christians, or whatever group- without having a clue what they are talking about or having read the same Bible they are so busy thumping and claiming to believe. I've never seen an angel either, [i]that I know of[/i]. I would say most people would say the same. I think that article shows more than some like to admit as well. It has many discrepancies and assumptions in it about the movie. But it also is wrong about much of the Bible verses it references, though no one has noticed those. Don't try and group anyone who believes in God as being the same kind of lunatics that make headlines nowadays. We think they are just as crazy as you do.
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[quote]Did people know the star map was found on Mars?[/quote] Yes, along with the three-hootered chick from Total Recall. She is one of the jockeys and built the derelict with three hoohoos.
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[font="verdana"] religions (and von-daniken esque theories) have it backwards. man will make god (AI) not the other way round [/font]
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WOW. I have seen some intellectual arguments in favor of religion before, but his is not one of them. Also, while I find the show "Ancient Aliens" entertaining I do realize its basically all loose theories (more fiction and little-to-no fact). But the same can be said of this guy's article. The "facts" he tries to illustrate by using Bible passages as accurate historical reference are worse than the "theories" used by the authors he's attacking. They rely on the reader already being "religious" (specifically Christian/Catholic/etc) and therefore being easily being won over by his so-called "obvious/clear" explanation of Bible stories . Than again I can't really blame him for his approach given that his article IS posted on a website devoted to further expansion of religion.
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Gehirn, Baby, you make me wish I had three hands.
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Gehirn
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Hehehe, sicko, you doin' fine with two!
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That article is fear filled, paranoid, dogmatic bullshit......Its so far detached from any kind of reality it freaks me out. Archaic crap.....
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I believe Ridley Scott is way smarter than contemplating cooky theories of the "ancient astronaut type", not to mention religious gospel. He may be just trying to hype up some controversy to "put more dynamite" into the movie opening in my view. I could almost see a grin in his face when he is talking about this nonsense as if it were serious...
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Very well put @aintnoxeno.....I my self am a believer in Jesus Christ and have no problem saying that.....That said, I read that article and was very bothered by it because it is presumptive and unduely harsh. In fact, I replied on that site under the name Jason, my real name, and post it here for you all to read: As a follower of Christ, I have no problem saying that I’m eagerly awaiting this film as a fan of good storytelling. Ridley Scott is an excellent storyteller and I’m a huge fan of his work. We don’t even know what this movie’s exact plot is….much of what you wrote as being ‘plot elements’ is widely considered by fans anticipating the film to be elements of plot hoaxes. Nothing is confirmed yet and won’t be for a good long time. And as to the comments about Shaw rejecting her faith, there is nothing confirmed or official out there anywhere that proves that assumption, and it is an assumption, in any way shape or form. Give it time and the opportunity to present itself before you rip it apart….you may very well be right, but you can’t possibly be yet as just about everything you’ve used as evidence is from rumour and speculation…and trust me, I’d know, I’ve being looking my self. I have to say that the Aliens as Gods subtext you’re so horrified by doesn’t bother me either, and only because….it’s a story and one that, no matter what it contains, could not possibly affect my belief in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, Son of the Living God, who came to us in human form to pay the price for our sins. I’m not going to let any film or concept affect my belief, ever. Jesus is in my heart and will never leave it. Nothing can bother me so much as to change that, nothing. Why you let this get under your skin so thoroughly is beyond me….and it irritates me when I see fellow believers take fiction and let it bother them so much…..faith is about belief in the absence of proof and true faith is like a mountain, untouchable, immovable and unshakeable by anything; especially a fictional sci-fi film. I’m not even bothered by the idea that alien life might exist out there. why? Because, in God’s vast and beautiful creation, there’s no telling what He brought into being and to suggest that we know for certain that it can’t be possible just because we believe in Him is arrogant and condescending to Him. We don’t and can’t possibly know what He chose to do with His creation and to suggest that we do is to look Him in the eye and say we know better. Aliens could land tomorrow on the lawn of the White House and I’d still believe in my God who created the Heavens and the Earth and gave us His one and only Son, so that we may live and survive the second death.
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Oh don't get me wrong I think faith can have an amazing effect for people that genuinely believe. It's just when people outright deny that there may be another reason for our existence without even looking at some of the very compelling evidence that we were created by aliens, if you will, because when it comes down to it if we were created by God or aliens, Ridley has it right when he says there is no way we could exist without some kind of help from a higher being. Be it God or creatures we have not yet encountered. I actually believe that there was a man named Jesus back in the day. I also believe he was a student of many different kinds of not only spiritual beliefs but also other forms of science that would have been frowned upon by the people of his time because it was beyond the realm of understanding at the time. They had never seen what Jesus was capable of, and therefore believed that his power was granted him by God. I believe in the Force. And I will never deny anyone their right to believe what they feel is right for them. However I think blind faith can be extremely damaging.
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@Gehirn I nearly choked on my coffee laughing when I read that :-P
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@Cypher, -" if you will, because when it comes down to it if we were created by God or aliens, Ridley has it right when he says there is no way we could exist without some kind of help from a higher being. Be it God or creatures we have not yet encountered." How do you figure this? Science has a pretty good idea how life evolved in this planet.
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Macs, There is a lot of evidence that points to alien life forms having visited the planet for many years, going as far back as ancient Sumarien cultures. Paintings, carvings, Egyptian hyroglyphs, UFO sighting stories passed off natural phenomenon, have a look on the Net and particularly Egyptian myths. I started thinking along these lines when I came across an anime called The Guyver, the story goes that aliens came to Earth and created us as a weapon for a war they were involved in, and these (apparently different types) of aliens used a bio-mechanical device as standard equipment for themselves that adapts itself to the user and forms what can be described as a spacesuit that they all used. When they created us they made us able to take on a secondary form through genetic manipulation in the shape of giant monsters they called Zoanoids, and they were able to telepathically control these creatures to do their bidding. Well, the aliens decide to adapt one of their spacesuits to one of their new creations, us, and were horrified to discover that they could no longer control the human they adapted this unit to, leading them to call it Guyver, which in their language means "not to specification" or "out of control" It's a good story, but it is just a story but it strikes a chord with me somehow. But by the Force do I want me one of those Units :-D With all the research that we ourselves perform on genetic manipulation and things like stem cell research, I think we have sub-consciously continued research that I think these aliens started originally. Have a look around, there's a lot of info out on the Net that will make your brain hurt from thinking about it all. Trust me, I still have a headache from all I've researched. And don't forget I am quite bonkers so it may just be me............
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Anyone for a conversation on politics while we are at it.....!......
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The true is that there is no sufficient empirical evidence to prove the existence of God, and by that I mean all types of Gods: monotheistic, polytheistic, metaphysical, and aliens. The Occam's razor is often very common at the time of formulating theories or speculation, but not the best way to reach a conclusion; on the contrary, is intended to provide easy answers to difficult questions. Another very common argument among theists is the use of the ad ignorantiam argument to assert that the existence of God is true only because you cannot prove that it was false. In general terms is still a question open to discussion… PS: The premise of ancient astronauts are very interesting and fascinating (mostly for science fiction) but the truth is that even do not have the irrefutable evidence needed to reach a definitive conclusion. Best regards.
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Sure why not Klaatu lol xD
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For politics....not much doing in Australia. Unless you count our Prime minister being cornered by an angry mob outside a function on the day we celebrate Australia Day. It appears the lunatics are running the asylum..... aaaargh :)
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First for all those bashing someones religion and what someone believes, get a life and worry about what you believe and not others. There is a reason the human species has free will! With that being said: I have traveled much over my many years and have saw things that would make anyone think. Like some have said here I have seen UFO's, I have seen ghost, I have also seen miracles. Someone stated above that scientist had mankind's and the earths beginnings all figured out. That is true but the conclusion at this time is that it couldn't happened on it's on. Could God be a alien? Maybe, would explain a lot. If God is a alien does that delete the teachings of the Bible or any other religion? IMO No. Thing about most of the older religions at their base core is a moral guidance and that we should strive to be good and fight evil. Through all the worlds cultures and most religions there are a few things in common. 1. A beginning 2. A great flood 3. A savior 4. A End So again between all that and with the scientist conclusions I think most folks will have to be honest and agree that Earth and Mankind is not alone in the universe and there is something out there that is far greater and smarter than us. But which ever way this movie goes, it's just a movie and a SciFi movie to boot. Humans out looking for answers (our unending need for answers). Humans fighting evil (killing those aliens before they eat us). Good thing about Scott Ridley's movies they make us all think which is a good thing.
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First for all those bashing someones religion and what someone believes, get a life and worry about what you believe and not others. There is a reason the human species has free will! With that being said: I have traveled much over my many years and have saw things that would make anyone think. Like some have said here I have seen UFO's, I have seen ghost, I have also seen miracles. Someone stated above that scientist had mankind's and the earths beginnings all figured out. That is true but the conclusion at this time is that it couldn't happened on it's on. Could God be a alien? Maybe, would explain a lot. If God is a alien does that delete the teachings of the Bible or any other religion? IMO No. Thing about most of the older religions at their base core is a moral guidance and that we should strive to be good and fight evil. Through all the worlds cultures and most religions there are a few things in common. 1. A beginning 2. A great flood 3. A savior 4. A End So again between all that and with the scientist conclusions I think most folks will have to be honest and agree that Earth and Mankind is not alone in the universe and there is something out there that is far greater and smarter than us. But which ever way this movie goes, it's just a movie and a SciFi movie to boot. Humans out looking for answers (our unending need for answers). Humans fighting evil (killing those aliens before they eat us). Good thing about Scott Ridley's movies they make us all think which is a good thing.
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One thing is the high probability of extraterrestrial life in the universe and the other is the aliens created life on Earth. I say that we must not mix apples and oranges. As said it's a question that remains open to discussion, but in my opinion the best posture is the impartial; that on both sides of the balance really dogmatism, i.e. in the gullible people who believe by blind faith and people enclosed in scientific trials (is not the same as being a skeptic who practice the thinking critical)
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Well the best argument i have found for aliens is the dear old mushroom spore which has a unique genome and can survive the harshness of space travel intact which is a theory that it is unlike anything else on our planet . It has also aided mans development over millennia and of course altered our consciousness. best evidence for this can be found in all kinds of ancient cave drawings and monuments from various ancient cultures, an interesting theory on this very subject which takes in symbols and language development can be seen in the Pharmacratic inquisition, an attempt at explaning the sources of religion and the hidden meaning of symbols in all cultures. All very interesting stuff and quite a revelation in its presentation but like everything its open to interpretation and focuses on the fact of the underlying truth that we are all manipulated by our cultural beliefs and conditioned from birth by our genetic upbringing, our environment, and our personal experiences, and for those reasons i have no belief but i am a spiritual person who's own unique experiences are themselves the key to where the truth lies as an explorer of inner space the answers can be found within yourself.... make of that what you will but there are those that know and those that dont and those that know can manipulate those that dont. Having said that the world is full of charlatan's that know nothing but claim to know everything.
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ancient astronaut theory is bullshit. When you read the books of Däniken and Sitchin you will see its just moneymaking. No ´proof´, just pure speculation.Sounds nice and interesting, especially for the SciFi crowd. Just one example, an archeologist did proof Sitchin completely wrong, scientifically: http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/ once again, just speculation and moneymaking. Däniken was in jail, and had the idea of making money with his books, because he was in debts. AAT is made up for SciFi kids. cheers
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@Kane77 Far out. Take a chill pill.

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