Head in ampole room

Yes i think you are right on the money and i also think the SJ is frienly toward the humans till an Unknown gets in the picture(Possible the UFO over the Water Fall In the Prometheus Trailer). Now i know alot of people don't want him to be the Space Jockey including me!! BUT I trust Mr. Scott!! Shit its his fucking movie so lets wait and see!! I don't think we will be let down!!! Scott has been waiting a long time for this baby and im sure he will surpise and scare our socks off!!!!

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Personally, I don't think that that's a jockey, in the scene with the chair. I think that that's a human head, don't know why it's there though. What I find more interesting are the canisters in front of it. Are they prototype mechanical xeno eggs? Or something different?

yeah its the jockey..they "created us in their image..my theory

there were a few times that ridley scared me in alien,what scares me more though about this movie are the humanoid aliens.i just hope they dont 1.speak english.2.have subtitles to enable them to speak english.3.have regional accents if they do speak english.oh and please dont let the human characters be whisked back to earth at the end using some contrived faster than light/time travel leaving them millions of years in the past and starting the human race off on a path back to the present like some adam n eve rubbish,ridley wouldnt do that to us would he?

^^I've been tossing around ideas that we find out through Shaw that many ancient myths are actually true, as well as some of the ancient alien stories (reinterpreted to fit the Jockeys) through her knowledge of ancient cultures and archaeology. What follows is extremely lengthy, but may set the stage for the blue guys' history and the Prometheus myth to have played out in the past, and to play out in again in the movie. I'm explaining mainly through the Greek mythology, but tying it to other religions and alien astronaut theory to make it all about everything. Sumerian and Egyptian influences are all over this movie and the first alien. That could suggest some sort of cultural interchange in the ancient past. Plus, they're using hieroglyphs that seem like they're intended to be a precursor language that's a mixture with elements of Egyptian Demotic and Sumerian Cuneiform. Weyland-Yutani uses the winged globe symbol common to both these ancient cultures. Hopefully no time warp if they go this route. The head represents this culture that has some relationship to us, and this culture could have very likely created us in their image, with the help of someone else. Someone who gave them the ability to spawn us.. and their high;y advanced Atlantean technology of the past that was mainly covered up by the sinking of Atlantis. Until a clue to the Promethean fire, and Pandora's box with hope left inside, is found by underwater archaeologists. Anyone remember how Ridley was brushing up on his knowledge of aquatic life for the first film way back, and now underwater environments for this film? If the initial discovery is made off the coast of Africa, by way of underwater archaeology; that's where some of the worlds most ancient submerged temples and man-made structures are... I don't want to see time travel, it's much better if it's only revealed or hinted at along the way through Shaw's observations that these tall blue guys were Atlanteans or some similar mythological culture that existed in the golden age, or PARADISE. Adding a little bit to the creepiness factor when dealing with them, and still tying into alien astronaut theory (which we know plays a part in the movie) & ideas coming from the Judeo-christian religions. Some theorize the mythical Atlanteans started Egypt/Sumeria. The movie 10 000 BC put it nicely: some think they came from the stars, some the ocean. I think that it's a mixture of both for this movie. And there is another more mysterious race that gave these blue guys their advanced technology. That way, religion isn't put aside too much, and we can still see highly advance humanoids who moved off earth after the sinking of Atlantis. Going the Atlantis route gives them more room to make up archaeological evidence that doesn't exist, and to alter alien astronaut theory to fit the movie. Remember that Prometheus (the Titan/former Elder God race) in the myth gives the gift to humanity after stealing it from an entirely different class, a reigning class: The Olympian Gods, who are now in charge of things at that point in the myths. The humans never steal the gift directly, but they receive a clue about it in this movie before they set out. The clue was really left behind by this tall blue race I associate with the snake in the garden of Eden: who misused their technology and took us down a path that led to biological warfare, the biblical flood, a world wide cataclysm of fire and our separation from the true Gods who gave us the gift of paradise/the garden of eden until the snake ruined it. In Greek myth, it was these Elder Gods (the second race) who later become the Titans. According to the Greeks the original 6 Elder Gods created the planets, and gave birth to the golden age; they also give birth to the hybrid Titan Gaia (representing Earth itself or something to do with Earth in the film). Around the time humans are created there's a great war where the Titans are overthrown by the Olympian Gods and some humans that Prometheus created are around at this time in the myth, partaking in the war. The Atlantean God Neptune does some strange things because the founder of Atlantis was a Titan/Elder God named Triton. Triton can be compared to Satan/the devil with his pitchfork in many ways, while the role of Lucifer is comparable to Poseidon or Hades. "Those who dwell on the water" were said to conduct horrible experiments and created hybrid monsters and chimeras. Shaw realizes that even some biblical events may seem to have happened, making her excited, but these blue guys turn out not to be the true gods they worship themselves as. And, that a scenario like this did happen in the past, with many of the myths repeating themselves in the movie through Shaw's opening of Pandora's box. The thing is, I strongly believe there is a second species that the blue guys acquired their advanced world-shaping technology from, who actually started PARADISE (ancient earth/Garden of Eden) and created both us and the tall blue guys. Or, they're a second class to tie it in with the myths more, so that some of these ancient myths Shaw knows of as a specialist on many cultures come true. This mysterious second species gave us Paradise, the garden of Eden, but a snake emerged in the garden using the high technology in evil ways, and the Elder Gods punished the Atlanteans/blue guys, but only drove them off earth. Humans were left with the biblical flood and sinking of Atlantis, or worldwide cataclysm that destroyed many of our records of the Sumerians/Egyptians interacting with these tall blue Atlanteans, who moved off earth with their high technology. In a war with this far more mysterious race they subjugate and them and acquire their terraforming technology. The truly shocking thing will be the being that will come out of one of the suits once we're accustomed to the blue guys and the suits, a one size fits all sort of deal... There's much I'm leaving out, getting into the possible archaeological clues, and how Shaw possibly represents Eve biting the apple given to her by the serpent race (the tall blue guys). The snake is a symbol of science and cunning, but also deception. When God created Eve, he used part of Adam's rib so that Adam would have someone to mate with (cloning and interbreeding of hominids). The original Adam, or Adamos in the Sumerian translation, was Asexual and only one gender. God had to take part of the Adamos genetics to create Eve. I'm not going to even start getting into how this may apply to Shaw possibly being half-robot, with false memories implanted to ensure that she uncovers the secrets of the snake: the apple of knowledge/Pandora's box.

^^I've been tossing around ideas that we find out through Shaw that many ancient myths are actually true, as well as some of the ancient alien stories (reinterpreted to fit the Jockeys) through her knowledge of ancient cultures and archaeology. What follows is extremely lengthy, but may set the stage for the blue guys' history and the Prometheus myth to have played out in the past, and to play out again in the movie. I'm explaining mainly through the Greek mythology, but tying it to other religions and alien astronaut theory to make it all about everything. Sumerian and Egyptian influences are all over this movie and the first alien. That could suggest some sort of cultural interchange in the ancient past. Plus, they're using hieroglyphs that seem like they're intended to be a precursor language that's a mixture with elements of Egyptian Demotic and Sumerian Cuneiform. Weyland-Yutani uses the winged globe symbol common to both these ancient cultures. Hopefully no time warp if they go this route. The head represents this culture that has some relationship to us, and this culture could have very likely created us in their image, with the help of someone else. Someone who gave them the ability to spawn us.. and their high;y advanced Atlantean technology of the past that was mainly covered up by the sinking of Atlantis. Until a clue to the Promethean fire, and Pandora's box with hope left inside, is found by underwater archaeologists. Anyone remember how Ridley was brushing up on his knowledge of aquatic life for the first film way back, and now underwater environments for this film? If the initial discovery is made off the coast of Africa, by way of underwater archaeology; that's where some of the worlds most ancient submerged temples and man-made structures are... I don't want to see time travel, it's much better if it's only revealed or hinted at along the way through Shaw's observations that these tall blue guys were Atlanteans or some similar mythological culture that existed in the golden age, or PARADISE. Adding a little bit to the creepiness factor when dealing with them, and still tying into alien astronaut theory (which we know plays a part in the movie) & ideas coming from the Judeo-christian religions. Some theorize the mythical Atlanteans started Egypt/Sumeria. The movie 10 000 BC put it nicely: some think they came from the stars, some the ocean. I think that it's a mixture of both for this movie. And there is another more mysterious race that gave these blue guys their advanced technology. That way, religion isn't put aside too much, and we can still see highly advance humanoids who moved off earth after the sinking of Atlantis. Going the Atlantis route gives them more room to make up archaeological evidence that doesn't exist, and to alter alien astronaut theory to fit the movie. Remember that Prometheus (the Titan/former Elder God race) in the myth gives the gift to humanity after stealing it from an entirely different class, a reigning class: The Olympian Gods, who are now in charge of things at that point in the myths. The humans never steal the gift directly, but they receive a clue about it in this movie before they set out. The clue was really left behind by this tall blue race I associate with the snake in the garden of Eden: who misused their technology and took us down a path that led to biological warfare, the biblical flood, a world wide cataclysm of fire and our separation from the true Gods who gave us the gift of paradise/the garden of eden until the snake ruined it. In Greek myth, it was these Elder Gods (the second race) who later become the Titans. According to the Greeks the original 6 Elder Gods created the planets, and gave birth to the golden age; they also give birth to the hybrid Titan Gaia (representing Earth itself or something to do with Earth in the film). Around the time humans are created there's a great war where the Titans are overthrown by the Olympian Gods and some humans that Prometheus created are around at this time in the myth, partaking in the war. The Atlantean God Neptune does some strange things because the founder of Atlantis was a Titan/Elder God named Triton. Triton can be compared to Satan/the devil with his pitchfork in many ways, while the role of Lucifer is comparable to Poseidon or Hades. "Those who dwell on the water" were said to conduct horrible experiments and created hybrid monsters and chimeras. Shaw realizes that even some biblical events may seem to have happened, making her excited, but these blue guys turn out not to be the true gods they worship themselves as. And, that a scenario like this did happen in the past, with many of the myths repeating themselves in the movie through Shaw's opening of Pandora's box. The thing is, I strongly believe there is a second species that the blue guys acquired their advanced world-shaping technology from, who actually started PARADISE (ancient earth/Garden of Eden) and created both us and the tall blue guys. Or, they're a second class to tie it in with the myths more, so that some of these ancient myths Shaw knows of as a specialist on many cultures come true. This mysterious second species gave us Paradise, the garden of Eden, but a snake emerged in the garden using the high technology in evil ways, and the Elder Gods punished the Atlanteans/blue guys, but only drove them off earth. Humans were left with the biblical flood and sinking of Atlantis, or worldwide cataclysm that destroyed many of our records of the Sumerians/Egyptians interacting with these tall blue Atlanteans, who moved off earth with their high technology. In a war with this far more mysterious race they subjugate and them and acquire their terraforming technology. The truly shocking thing will be the being that will come out of one of the suits once we're accustomed to the blue guys and the suits, a one size fits all sort of deal... There's much I'm leaving out, getting into the possible archaeological clues, and how Shaw possibly represents Eve biting the apple given to her by the serpent race (the tall blue guys). The snake is a symbol of science and cunning, but also deception. When God created Eve, he used part of Adam's rib so that Adam would have someone to mate with (cloning and interbreeding of hominids). The original Adam, or Adamos in the Sumerian translation, was Asexual and only one gender. God had to take part of the Adamos genetics to create Eve. I'm not going to even start getting into how this may apply to Shaw possibly being half-robot, with false memories implanted to ensure that she uncovers the secrets of the snake: the apple of knowledge/Pandora's box.

dude it has ears, lol, it had to have been made with a Human as it's inspiration.

Ah yes it was assumed the underwater research Ridley was doing was going to be used for an Avatar sequel. I never really understood how that would fit in with the tribe as they are spiritually advanced but not technology advanced to travel to deep depths of the ocean. So perhaps the artefact is found in the depths of the ocean. We know very little about our seas so this would explain why it has remained undiscovered for so long...... Good thinking batman :)

Even more here for those interested. You don't have to agree with it all, just throwing stuff out there. I believe the myths tell us there are at least 2 separate classes. So, this is just one possibility for the blue race's back-story that I think Shaw uncovers in the film, informing the audience either directly or through her comments. Building on the Atlantis/golden age/paradise/garden of eden idea, remember that the film was code named PARADISE. I believe there could have been a Paradise on Earth, and now these blue guys, the snake in the garden with their serpentine monsters, have the ability to create Paradises on other worlds. However the ancient ones, the true gods and creators of the garden, returned and attempted to wipe out all those in the garden including Adam and Eve, because the snake had misused its wisdom. The snake is cunning though, and it escapes from the garden instead of being stuck in what the garden would become. The cranial ridge is somewhat Neanderthal-like on top, as well as the shape and slope, however it also has characteristics of ancient homo sapiens from about 2.5million years before present + what seems like larger cranial capacity, but can't tell for sure because I need to get a closer look at the tall guy's bald head.. There is no occipital bun present that I can see so they're not entirely Neanderthals (or some sub-species of Cro-Magnon man) The top of the head looks the same as the tall blue guys, as has been pointed out. I believe they're related to us My money is on Shaw knowing the popular interbreeding theory in Anthropology/Archaeology. This theory states that ancient homo sapiens bred with Cro-Magnon man and Neanderthal man to produce the increase in cranial capacity (200 cubic centimeters) that is seen in modern homo sapiens starting 200 000 years back. Ridley may alter this to include the intervention hypothesis so that it turns out the much larger, smarter Cro-magnon/Neanderthal hybrids (these actually exist but can't remember their genus-species name) interbred or genetically enhanced us with their genetics tech stolen from the true gods. Or, they could be some made up hybrids who will have gained the power of the Gods. With one of their slave engineers rebelling and spreading the fire to us humans; which the rulers of Atlantis are not ok with, and won't be ok with when it happens again. Our planetary Goddess Gaia is also part Titan and part human (she's a hybrid of all three classes). Gaia knew that Zeus would overthrow Kronos (the chief Elder God)... She takes her wrath out on Poseidon and Triton for helping Zeus in the war against the Titans (Triton betrayed his own kind and the Atlantean colony as well as his Godly father Poseidon eventually)... Poseidon is special, he's half Titan and half god in some forms of the myth, but mainly described as a god. Triton is half god, half man, and may have Titan DNA from Poseidon as well as rule over Atlantean technology. He's portrayed as a fish-man, but that's mainly symbolic of some of the more monstrous tales. Together they create the first race of humans who are said to be wiped out after a fiery cataclysm. These first humans lived alongside giants and the Cyclopeans, as well as other Atlantean experiments. Poseidon sides with Zeus, and the subjugation of the Elder Gods begins. The Elder Gods become the Titans when they begin to dwell on the Earth (sometimes inside it or underwater). By the time an engineer (Prometheus the Titan) perfects the fourth hybrid-race incarnation of humanity-- the gods feverishly guarded the technology and their servants. They feared this new species homo sapien sapien would overthrow them if given too much power. Prometheus rebelled, giving us the fire, and setting us on a path to developing higher technology and megalithic construction, but inadvertently causes the disappearance of Atlantis and exile out of Paradise when the snakes slithered in. The gods would not have any of this and tried to rule the earthlings, but even the gods held high respect for god-Titan Poseidon and his Atlantean colony (before it sinks). Poseidon led us down a path that destroyed what Prometheus tried to accomplish. The half-titan took to the sky after Atlantis sank and periodically appears on Olympus, the Atlanteans took on the true Elder Gods, and some explain their disappearance as being destroyed from above: vanishing overnight, and disappearing into the ocean. Some tales say they sank themselves, which could be true for this movie before they left earth. The Elder Gods had returned, to punish those who had abused their gift, and they attempted to wipe out all of the abominations the Atlanteans unleashed (serpent monsters, relating to the snake theme). The Elder Gods attempt to wipe out the Atlanteans through a series of worldwide floods (7 in the last 700 000 years that Archaeologists can identify), a fiery cataclysm, or a worldwide bio-weapon that would wipe out all life. However, the Atlanteans were the victors, setting the stage for the film, because they left Earth, thinking it that it would soon be uninhabitable. They leave behind the Egyptian and Sumerian god-kings to watch over things, but only ended up leaving archaeological clues through the everlasting stone. The true gods that I refer to as the Elder Gods/Titans become the remaining Titans, living on Earth, as practically servants and genetic engineers for the Olympian gods. They created not only humans, but other various monsters and hybrids for the gods. When the gods interbred with humans(homo sapiens) the genetics could mix wrong, sometimes you get more favorable mixes: the demi-gods, like Heracles who chose to free Prometheus.

The Elder Gods/Titans/The more ancient ones set up the garden, and they created us and the tall-blue guys in my theory. The rulers of the tall-blue guys were incredibly wise and realized they were created by these ancient ones early on, and were given a similar power over genetics but not the world modifying tech. This was not enough for the blue guys/ the mysterious snake in the garden of Eden. And these former Atlanteans kept working through the Olympian gods and the other god-man hybrids of their kind; looking for ways to enhance their power, and to dominate the beings left on Earth. Living extraordinarily long lives, and now having the capability to engage the true gods in combat, the beings stripped them of their terraforming and world altering ability/technology, and keep some of them around for their services in genetics. What they perceive to be the true link to the universal god force. If they didn't preserve and subjugate them, they would lose their mastery over the genetics they inherited from them in the first place. The blue-guys have the same problem the olympian gods did when they mixed their genetics with other races: Horrible monsters can sometimes be produced by partial genetic incompatibility. Other times, demi-gods with enhanced abilities (due to being closer to the link to Elder genetics) are created when near-humans are infected. Most hybrids are sterile and unable to reproduce naturally... They still need the ancient ones for their genetic mastery, and to maintain their status as gods. Edit: To add, I'm a little messed up on cough syrup right now lol. Please excuse my ranting. I forgot to stress again that both species would be using the bio-suits made out of their past creations, or perhaps the suits were these Elder Gods' bodies and they've chosen to immortalize them by wearing them/their suits and having statues of them (even though the giant monument to themselves is much larger). I'm thinking they inherit all the bio-mechanic goodness that came from this more ancient race, that's what I really meant by genetics. After that I'm thinking the Prometheus myth plays out partially when the humans meet this second race who's been in cryo or hiding in a suit. One of the humans(robot possibly?) is more than anxious to take the Promethean fire from this second creature, now an engineer to the "gods" as one of the last of his kind. Weyland's side (who ever is controlled, Vickers maybe) recognizes this gift's potential as a weapon and decides they want to investigate further into who the less human race was, and how to gain more of this power. This upsets the "gods' currently manning the ship, and like Zeus they try to punish the Titan. Ultimately, monsters may or may not be spawned. Demi-gods will be created with enhanced abilities, but some will be off (the jumping guy). And in the end, a chain of events is created that brings in the Elder Gods, who the tall blue guys had thought to be long gone from this sector of space surrounding Zeta II Reticuli. A zone that used to be their ancient home, but has now been appropriated by the new devolved form of the Space Jockeys. The ancient ones unleash something worse than the mutating genes, and the survivors are forced to flee the planet. However, the Elder Gods have set out for Earth to destroy the home of both their ancient creations, and David knows this already before Shaw figures it out!! The Elder Gods are creators, and also destroying angels, and they intend to undo their creation for good this time (they don't know their being tailed and that some of the crew made it off the planet). David's infection has caused a link to the ancient ones, and more. David could be our Hermes, but also our David vs Goliath character, having the royal blood of the god-kings in him now. Then I'm thinking crash and fight until the end.

@Mala'kak Whoa, dude, I would like your version of the screenplay made into a movie, LOL! Very very interesting read, thanks for sharing the fire.

Thanks for the positive feedback :) it's still a working theory and I've considered a lot of the rumoured plotlines for the main story of the film. There's more too, but lots of the stuff could go either way with symbolism like this, and trying to figure out the other characters: If there's a leader of the blue engineer dudes or not, if the Elder Gods are in fact represented by the Elder engineers and so on, and if that means that they're all in one place. It could just be that this culture had some sort of contact in the past, and are evolved on a separate world under different gravity, but created by this same second mysterious race. Then they came in and established our early civilizations, and developed the shared bits of Sumerian and Egyptian influence seen in the ampule room, and in the room with those possible cryo-chambers that look like sarcophagi with hieroglyphs on them. Just trying to connect it to a lot of different things and think of ways Ridley might do something new. They don't have to be atlanteans either, plenty of myths about lost civilizations, flying machines and the gods and demi-gods from other cultures. I'm relating it to a lot the myths all at once, "all about everything". Depending on the mythological civilization aspect and having them manipulate early humans it frees it from having to interfere with religion or evolution that much. The catch is that the ancient ones/second class or species made the planet habitable and are far more mysterious, and more like the traditional idea of God. A creator and a destroyer of worlds (creating the flood). In this way it relates to the Judeo-Christian myths and many other world myths, by keeping a class of beings that is far superior and completely unfathomable to us. I'm not really religious, but think this is a way to lessen the shock of humans having a hand in creating us for Christians and believers worldwide. Shaw, and anyone of the Judeo-Christian faiths might actually find it surprising that all the myths have been revealed to be true in a way, relating to christian themes, and also heavily symbolizing and hinting at the Greek Titans' backstory, but keeping these ancient ones more mysterious.

Thanks for the positive feedback :) it's still a working theory and I've considered a lot of the rumoured plotlines for the main story of the film. There's more too, but lots of the stuff could go either way with symbolism like this, and trying to figure out the other characters: If there's a leader of the blue engineer dudes or not, if the Elder Gods are in fact represented by the Elder engineers and so on, and if that means that they're all in one place. It could just be that this culture had some sort of contact in the past, and are evolved on a separate world under different gravity, but created by this same second mysterious race. Then they came in and established our early civilizations, and developed the shared bits of Sumerian and Egyptian influence seen in the ampule room, and in the room with those possible cryo-chambers that look like sarcophagi with hieroglyphs on them. Just trying to connect it to a lot of different things and think of ways Ridley might do something new. They don't have to be atlanteans either, plenty of myths about lost civilizations, flying machines and the gods and demi-gods from other cultures. I'm relating it to a lot the myths all at once, "all about everything". Depending on the mythological civilization aspect and having them manipulate early humans it frees it from having to interfere with religion or evolution that much. The catch is that the ancient ones/second class or species made the planet habitable and are far more mysterious, and more like the traditional idea of God. A creator and a destroyer of worlds (creating the flood). In this way it relates to the Judeo-Christian myths and many other world myths, by keeping a class of beings that is far superior and completely unfathomable to us. I'm not really religious, but think this is a way to lessen the shock of humans having a hand in creating us for Christians and believers worldwide. Shaw, and anyone of the Judeo-Christian faiths might actually find it surprising that all the myths have been revealed to be true in a way, relating to christian themes, and also heavily symbolizing and hinting at the Greek Titans' backstory, but keeping these ancient ones more mysterious.

I think there will be the following twist...it will be more a kin to the Ancient Astronaut theory and we will see more of a mating between a Human and either the Jockey race or some other larger race of beings accounting for the jump in size and through time of the heads of our ancestors. Fact: We {mankind} still cannot account for the jump in cranial size in Man On earth during the time period you referenced.

@Spartacus That's definitely one way it could go to tie into the biblical Nephillim and the "fallen angels taking the daughters of men" aspect of AA theory. At any rate some sort of hybridization process involving hominids that Shaw can talk about might be going on, maybe caused by the hypothetical mutagen in its ancient form, and maybe later talk about the link to Egypt/Sumer. To me the engineering aspect is involved in making sure the hybrid species can produce offspring. Many species from the same genus or a close family can produce offspring, however they're almost always sterile and unable to reproduce after, like Ligers and Tigons. Have you seen the the Egyptian busts of some of the Pharaohs and early rulers with the elongated skulls and the snake headdresses? The snake worship was prevalent in Egypt, and the serpent on the Caduceus of Moses is thought to be linked to the powers of God. I think of these guys as having flying machines by the time they interfere with our species, whether from the ocean or stars, and that they've been around for a while and are favored by the ancient ones. But this forced interbreeding, genetic mixing and enhancing, or smoothing over of the other hominid groups and evolutionary process is seen as a violation by the Elder Gods. So, the Elder Gods retaliated, however their chief Elder God (representing Kronos) was destroyed by this advanced culture, their creation (Zeus the conquering child). Zeus is hidden by his mother in the bowels of Gaia for a long time as a child. Kronos/Saturn was swallowing all his children (and planetary bodies) in the myths; he was swallowing them because he knew of Gaia's prophecy that one of his line would overthrow him from Earth/Gaia & was destined to overthrow the Elder Gods. There's more to the prophecy that connects to Atlantis and Poseidon having a hand in this, but I have to refresh my memory. Kronos could not see Zeus, as he was hidden by his mother in the bowels of the earth/gaia, and he developed into a full grown god and eventually castrates Kronos with some sort of sickle given to him by another deity I think. This is how the Olympians come to rule over the Elder Gods and the Earth, which could be our Ancient Alien connection-- theses guys took their flying machines to all these cultures, but there's much struggle that goes on and it leads to the War with the Titans.

@Spartacus That's definitely one way it could go to tie into the biblical Nephillim and the "fallen angels taking the daughters of men" aspect of AA theory. At any rate some sort of hybridization process involving hominids that Shaw can talk about might be going on, maybe caused by the hypothetical mutagen in its ancient form, and maybe later talk about the link to Egypt/Sumer. To me the engineering aspect is involved in making sure the hybrid species can produce offspring. Many species from the same genus or a close family can produce offspring, however they're almost always sterile and unable to reproduce after, like Ligers and Tigons. Have you seen the the Egyptian busts of some of the Pharaohs and early rulers with the elongated skulls and the snake headdresses? The snake worship was prevalent in Egypt, and the serpent on the Caduceus of Moses is thought to be linked to the powers of God. I think of these guys as having flying machines by the time they interfere with our species, whether from the ocean or stars, and that they've been around for a while and are favored by the ancient ones. But this forced interbreeding, genetic mixing and enhancing, or smoothing over of the other hominid groups and evolutionary process is seen as a violation by the Elder Gods. So, the Elder Gods retaliated, however their chief Elder God (representing Kronos) was destroyed by this advanced culture, their creation (Zeus the conquering child). Zeus is hidden by his mother in the bowels of Gaia for a long time as a child. Kronos/Saturn was swallowing all his children (and planetary bodies) in the myths; he was swallowing them because he knew of Gaia's prophecy that one of his line would overthrow him from Earth/Gaia & was destined to overthrow the Elder Gods. There's more to the prophecy that connects to Atlantis and Poseidon having a hand in this, but I have to refresh my memory. Kronos could not see Zeus, as he was hidden by his mother in the bowels of the earth/gaia, and he developed into a full grown god and eventually castrates Kronos with some sort of sickle given to him by another deity I think. This is how the Olympians come to rule over the Elder Gods and the Earth, which could be our Ancient Alien connection-- theses guys took their flying machines to all these cultures, but there's much struggle that goes on and it leads to the War with the Titans.

@ Mala'kak serious dude do you work for Mr. Scott damn you are one smart deep person!!!! Stop it you made me read every last word of your post!!! And i have to tell you that is some interesting sh*@. I think there is some true in your post that will play out in the movie!!!

[size=100][/size][size=100][/size]@Spartacus That's definitely one way it could go to tie into the biblical Nephillim and the "fallen angels taking the daughters of men" aspect of AA theory. At any rate some sort of hybridization process involving hominids that Shaw can talk about might be going on, maybe caused by the hypothetical mutagen in its ancient form, and maybe later talk about the link to Egypt/Sumer. To me the engineering aspect is involved in making sure the hybrid species can produce offspring. Many species from the same genus or a close family can produce offspring, however they're almost always sterile and unable to reproduce after, like Ligers and Tigons. Have you seen the the Egyptian busts of some of the Pharaohs and early rulers with the elongated skulls and the snake headdresses? The snake worship was prevalent in Egypt, and the serpent on the Caduceus of Moses is thought to be linked to the powers of God. I think of these guys as having flying machines by the time they interfere with our species, whether from the ocean or stars, and that they've been around for a while and are favored by the ancient ones. But this forced interbreeding, genetic mixing and enhancing, or smoothing over of the other hominid groups and evolutionary process is seen as a violation by the Elder Gods. So, the Elder Gods retaliated, however their chief Elder God (representing Kronos) was destroyed by this advanced culture, their creation (Zeus the conquering child). Zeus is hidden by his mother in the bowels of Gaia for a long time as a child. Kronos/Saturn was swallowing all his children (and planetary bodies) in the myths; he was swallowing them because he knew of Gaia's prophecy that one of his line would overthrow him from Earth/Gaia & was destined to overthrow the Elder Gods. There's more to the prophecy that connects to Atlantis and Poseidon having a hand in this, but I have to refresh my memory. Kronos could not see Zeus, as he was hidden by his mother in the bowels of the earth/gaia, and he developed into a full grown god and eventually castrates Kronos with some sort of sickle given to him by another deity I think. This is how the Olympians come to rule over the Elder Gods and the Earth, which could be our Ancient Alien connection-- theses guys took their flying machines to all these cultures, but there's much struggle that goes on and it leads to the War with the Titans.

Ugh can't delete that double post for some reason, I'll keep trying. There's so many possibilities with Shaw being an archaeologist, that's what intrigued me so much. I studied Anthro. back in college, but only a handful or archaeo classes, psych minor and took some classics classes. I've been trying to think of ways Shaw could be useful to the plot with her knowledge of ancient cultures and tying that to all the myths that might be relevant to alien astronaut theory. Still could be wayyy off and have lots of things backwards.

based on the prometheus myth and the annunaki humanity was created by the gods..in the gods liekness in their image...so the gods look like humans and vice versa..they were created by the gods to be slaves...however one rogue god prometheus felt sorry for humanity...which toiled as slaves building the pyramids and the great wall etc etc so prometheus stole "fire" from the gods and gave it to humanity enlightening them and givng them the ability to rebel..prometheus was tortured by the gods for doing this

^^ If it happens this way, "Prometheus" in modern times has to at least be a separate class of the Gods/Annunaki/Fallen angels for the myth to make sense in the film (certainly a possibility because it keeps things simple and we've heard about Engineers and Elder Engineers). The reason I think it could be either is that the Titans are definitely a separate class of beings from the the Gods when you look at the myth. And Ridley said "Prometheus" will relate to more than just the name of the ship. I think we're on the right track applying it to the backstory as well as the storyline of the movie. Even if they're just the genetic engineers of this race by the time we catch up to them. The Titans were at one time the Elder Gods, which suggests higher power than the Gods who come along later, and are depicted as very human. However, the Titans on Earth were the remnants of the Elder Gods, and were depicted as human as well many times (Prometheus is a glaring example). So it could be that they're all Annunaki, but that one class of their culture, is the true master over things like genetic engineering and terraforming.