Sphere of influence!!

After they leave LV-426 Lambert says 10 months to get back to earth. The Zeta Reticuli star system that they are supposedly near or in is about 39 light years from earth. How they are achieving such a quick journey is a mystery.

It has to be ten months! This would be the ONLY logical estimate. Period. The film made it clear that they were on the Cusp of Zeta2reticuli.

@wheresbasky? Actually, that scene in the end of Alien 3 is a recording from the end of Alien that Ripley made. If you remember back to Aliens Gorman wanted the marines to listen to Ripley's logs from her escape from the Nostromo. I hope this helps. :)

Oh, but as far as your other part of your question, I'm just as lost as you are. Hahaha.

@anovak1979, yep that's right. I always assumed it was a reference back to the remainder of the escape pod

Guys I think the recording was a A referance to Alien b Was a point to say Ripley has died (signing out) Sparky is the one to ask his knowledge on all things Alien is amazing

Zeta Ret 37 LY or 11.35 parsecs. 10 months travel time from their course change from Thedus to Earth. Lambert says they are roughly half way home. Thedus would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 74 LYs from Sol. If the speed of light in a vacuum is 186000 miles per second or 669.6 million miles per hour. In a standard year moving at just C or the speed of light the Nostromo could cover 5,785,344,000,000 miles. If Zeta Reticulae is 37 LYs from Sol that's 214,057,728,000,000 Two hundred fourteen trillion, fifty seven billion seven hundred and twenty eight million miles from Sol. If the Nostromo can do that distance in just 10 months (at just C that's 4,821,120,000,000 miles in 10 30 day months it would have taken them 444.48 months just to reach our solar system) she would have had to accelerate to more than 10 times that velocity to accomplish that goal, that's some incredible feat of engineering

Zeta Ret 37 LY or 11.35 parsecs. 10 months travel time from their course change from Thedus to Earth. Lambert says they are roughly half way home. Thedus would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 74 LYs from Sol. If the speed of light in a vacuum is 186000 miles per second or 669.6 million miles per hour. In a standard year moving at just C or the speed of light the Nostromo could cover 5,785,344,000,000 miles. If Zeta Reticulae is 37 LYs from Sol that's 214,057,728,000,000 Two hundred fourteen trillion, fifty seven billion seven hundred and twenty eight million miles from Sol. If the Nostromo can do that distance in just 10 months (at just C that's 4,821,120,000,000 miles in 10 30 day months it would have taken them 444.48 months just to reach our solar system) she would have had to accelerate to more than 44.4 times that velocity to accomplish that goal, that's some incredible feat of engineering.

@Ghost Solitare Wow that's a lot of numbers!!! I take it they have not got FTL capabilities? so What Tech are they using to cover that kind of distance in such a short time frame @ Anovak 1979 thanks for clearing that up!!! bit disappointed that it was just a recording,thought it was a nice touch that it appeared to be a signal drifting through space time that caught up with Ripley at the end of her story! After all that though how come if LV426 was surveyed(was brought up during Ripley's debrief at company HQ in Aliens) why didn't they spot the derelict? did this ever get cleared up in other posts?

Well if they are going Faster than the speed of light then they do have FTL capabilities.

so do they have to jump from Plaid to ludicrus speed (spaceballs reference there)

so how many light years out has mankind got then, do we think?

Did anyone wonder how gravity was achieved on the Nostromo? These are just things we must accept and move on else the movie will be 35732908503 hours long and mostly talk of equations. Man, I sure don't want to see a math class in 3D : )

Ghost Solitaire [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fI8834iCgo]Blinded me with Science[/url]

I don't know such stuff. I just do eyes.

I find all this SO many light years from home and FLT and time dilation VERY scary. I'm sure this will be factored in to the film's more tense moments.

so the reason they managed to travel great distances through space, in such a short time was purely clever editing at Fox!!! I think NASA could learn a thing or two from them!!!

My brother and I were always close, indeed, even as children we enjoyed exploring each other's bodies and snuggling together naked. My brother is older than me by two years and he always led our experimentation. I was game for whatever he wanted to do because I worshipped him. Oh yes, I'm Barry (my brother calls be Baz). Around the time Bill, my brother, turned 12 our antics became much more sexual. I do not know where he got the ideas from but the experimentation stepped up a notch. Bill said that we could get really good feelings from sucking on each other's willies, and we did. I loved it. I think I loved sucking him even more than being sucked. We still bathed together at that time and during one of our baths he offered to wash my bottom. Any excuse for him to touch me I gladly encouraged. As he soaped my bum I felt his fingers playing with my hole and I liked it. Then I felt him push a finger into me and wiggle it around - I liked that too. As time went on he got braver and more adventurous, he used more than one finger and sometimes even objects to stimulate my hole. He never wanted me to touch him there though. Eventually one day he told me that he was going to put his willy into me. I was thrilled, not because of the anticipation of the sensation but because of the increased intimacy it would bring. I didn't understand it but looking back I realise that by then I had fallen deeply in love with him. When he pushed his willy into me the first time it gave me the best feelings ever, physically and emotionally. He realised that by moving it in and out he could increase his pleasure. I don't think he was thinking of mine, but it worked for me too. This new activity continued for some time and it wasn't only restricted to the bathroom. Most nights we would end up in one bed and his willy always ended up in my bum. I couldn't get enough though, so it was not totally one-sided pleasure. By the time Bill was 13 he was producing sperm and I loved the feeling as he squirted it into me. I liked the taste of it too. We had kissed a lot as children, everyone thought it 'cute'. In our private times our kissing became passionate though as our sexual activity increased so did the intensity of our kissing. Being kissed by my brother was almost as good as the sexy stuff we did. Bill also introduced piss-play into our bathtimes, it started off as just larking around and eventually it became a ritual that we messed around pissing on each other and eventually sucked piss from each other's willies at the start of our bath. Never once did I think it gross. As Bill progressed into his teens, however, he discovered girls. Increasingly I was set to one side to make room for his amourous adventures with the opposite sex. I was hurt and sad but occasionally he would come back to me (probably only when he was between girlfriends though) and I sought solace from those infrequent reminders. I was still deeply in love with him, but I guess he wasn't so smitten with me. As we got older we grew further apart, eventually he stopped coming to me and dropped all expressions of affection toward me. I knew what it meant but I knew that I would always be in love with him, no matter what. Bill had always been involved with the local youth club, he was very sporty and got involved in a lot of the activities the club arranged. By his mid-twenties (and the time of this story) he was the principal leader. Also by this time he had left home and had set up with his long term girlfriend. I still lived at home with Mum and Dad. Out of the blue I received a Call from him, it started "Hi Baz, I need a really big favour, can you help me?" Well, still carrying a torch for him, it was a silly question, I'd do anything for him and he probably knew that. So I said "Sure, what is it?" He went on to describe the arrangments he had made for a summer camp for the youth club boys and that he had been let down by a couple of the adult leaders. He explained that there was a legal requirement for a certain ratio of adult to youth and that he needed at least one other adult for the camp to be able to be held. How could I say no, it would mean spending time with the guy I loved with no females around to distract him. I agreed. I had only a couple of days to organise myself but was excited. Bill and I had a couple of chats about the proposed activities and the plans in general, he seemed to have thought of everything. In my mind though, rather than thinking about the activities planned for the boys, I imagined that Bill and I would share a tent together and that our love and passion could be re-kindled. The day came and I turned up with my gear at the youth club at the appointed time, there were a couple of people carriers and a mini-bus. We loaded the roof-rack of the mini-bus with all the gear and tied it all down securely. The smaller bags and boxes of food were put inside the other vehicles. The boys ages ranged from about 12 to 16 and they all seemed like nice kids. There were a few cuties amongst the group who caught my eye and I wondered if my brother ever thought of them in that way, indeed it did make me wonder momentarily about his motives for being involved with the club, but I dismissed that thought. I do find myself attracted to younger guys and the few encounters I had enjoyed since my brother left home had been with lads younger than me, but my mind was on my brother. Bill was driving the mini-bus and I was riding alongside him. I was happy. As we drove he talked about his plans for the camp and eventually got round to the sleeping arrangments. He said that he had divided the group and leaders so as to make the best use of the various tents which were available, some being considerably larger than others. I was waiting for the moment that he would announce that we were sharing, but it didn't come. Instead he said, "I've put you in the smallest tent with Tony and Kevin, they are brothers and seem to be a little uncomfortable in larger groups, they are very close to each other and don't like to be separated. I think they are quite insecure and would be happier being in a separate tent and I wanted every tent to have a leader in it." I was a little deflated by learning that I would not be sharing with Bill. Bill told be which the boys were and I turned around to look in the back of the mini-bus. I could see them on a twin seat together, they were pretty quiet compared to the others. Tony was apparently nearly 14 and Kevin still 12, they were both good looking boys. I guess you would say that Tony's hair was mousy brown, but Kevin's was pure blond, he was adorable. I soon found myself forgetting about not sharing a tent with Bill. I turned and faced front again. Bill said, "They are really sweet boys. Their mother is widowed and has had a pretty difficult time financially. The boys have been coming to the club for about a year and I have tried to get them to interact with others as much as I can. We are getting there slowly, but they are like Siamese twins and don't like to be parted. They seem to feel safe with me and to tell the truth are a bit clingy and I'd like them to develop trust in another adult figure, that's why I thought of you. I think that you are the sort of person they need. You are a loving and gentle guy and they could do well to have a friend like you." It was the nicest thing he had ever said about me and nearly brought me to tears, I just said "Thanks Bill, that's kind, I'll do my best." We drove on. A couple of hours later we arrived at the site which, to be honest, seemed a little primative, actually I struggled to regard it as a proper campsite. There did seem to be toilets and showers though. The land used for the site was obviously farmland that was unsuitable for crops or grazing. There were patches of open space dotted with clumps of bushes and small copses of trees, No thought had been given to opening up the space. Our tents were therefore going to be dotted around rather than grouped. Bill and one of the other leaders walked around the site deciding which tent was going where and each group was then directed to the spot. My little group was quite lucky we had been allocated a space between some bushed areas and was therefore quite private. There was a central open area though, sufficient for us to erect a dining shelter and dig a pit for a camp fire. I introduced myself to my tent-mates and tried to engage with them, it was a struggle. As we tried to erect the tent though we had a few laughs, mainly at my incompetance, and they seemed to loosen up. When the tent was eventually up we crawled inside and laid out our mats and sleeping bags. The boys were together toward the back and I was at the front. I jokingly said that I would be the sentry and protect them from attack. The look that came back made me realise that they were indeed grateful and comforted by my presence. We decided that we should change into some more appropriate clothes and I offered to leave the tent. Surprisingly they said that it didn't matter and we all started to get out of our travelling clothes. The tent was big enough for 6 so we had enought room to move. I got down to my boxers and the boys their briefs, I tried not to stare, but I couldn't help sneeking glances. They were very very cute, Tony, the older one had a good size bulge in his briefs and actually Kevin's wasn't so bad either. I was glad that I was in loose boxers as my cock was starting to stiffen and I could see that the boys were stealing glances in my direction too. I slipped on some chino shorts and a tee shirt and headed out. A couple of minutes later the boys emerged and we went to check out the rest of the site. As it turned out the site wasn't so bad, there were other open spaces and a large wood on site. As we explored the wood we even found a river with several areas which would suit bathing and swimming. We followed it along and found some even quieter spots and agreed that we would keep them secret. The boys seemed to be much more relaxed with me now and I was pleased. Our trudge through the woods had left us hot and I suggested that we sat by the river for a while to cool down. We found a nice spot and rested. I asked the boys how they were enjoying the club and they said that they had a good time but admitted to being a little overwhelmed at times. I told them that I understood and that as a youngster I only wanted to be in my brother's company, nobody elses. The looked at each other and something passed between them. I asked them how they got on with my brother and they said that they liked him a lot and that he was the only reason they stuck with the club. I said something like "He's very special to me too" and they again passed that look between them. Tony, the older one, said "When you were our ages, did you stick together?" I answered "We were very close indeed and did everything together, even at your ages we still shared a room and bathed together." "We do too", said Kevin. I replied, "That's really nice, you should cherish each other while you can because one day you might not be able to be so close." Tony boldly said, "Is that what happened with you and Bill?". I nodded and was quite saddened. Tony sensed it and said "I'm sorry Barry, I didn't mean to upset you." I smiled at him and said "You are very sweet and I know that your comment was innocent, but yes that is indeed what happened, as we got older he seemed to want me less and less and I miss him terribly." I was surprised when the two boys hugged me but relished it and clung onto them for what seemed like ages. We parted and I said "Thank you guys, that made me feel really good and a whole lot better". Tony said, "We can only imagine how bad it must feel, I don't think we could cope with being parted." and they held hands. I was touched. We meandered back and joined in with the party putting up the dining shelter. Then the kitchen area was constructed and a late lunch prepared. After that Bill and the other main leader set out the plans and some of the activities they had arranged but said that the afternoon was free for the boys to explore the area and collect fire wood. A time was agreed for the return and they departed in groups. My boys lingered behind and I asked them why, the told me that they would rather stay with me. I told them that I was flattered but they should be having fun. They said they would like to explore the woodland some more and follow the river even further and wanted me to be with them. I agreed. Having see where the other groups had headed, we took a different route into the woods, eventually though we found our river and traced our steps to the places we found earlier. As we followed the river we discovered that some of the banks were almost impassable but we got through and found some great places. The boys were thrilled with each discovery. Then we happend upon a clearing, surrounded by dense undergrowth and accessible only from the river bank it was grassy and gently sloped to the river. It was now mid afternoon and quite warm and I suggested to the boys that we rested. So we lay on the grass in our oasis. Out of nowhere Tony said, "Do you think its strange that two brothers should be so close". I was puzzled and asked him what he meant, he said "Some people think its weird that Kevin and I are so close." I said "They are just jealous and don't understand what love means. It isn't something that you can ignore. It is true that many siblings are not as close as you two, but I think they are missing out. In my mind there cannot be anything purer than the love you two clearly have for each other. As you get older though things will probably change and your lives will develop in different directions. Hopefully you'll keep the closeness you have but you will also have other people, partners, to consider." Tony thought for a moment and said "I don't want a partner, I only want Kevin." Keven added "Me too". I said, "That's sweet but from personal experience I can tell you that as you mature other drivers will come into force, hormones will kick in and sex will rear its head, emotional attachments will come and could pull you apart." The boys looked at each other again in a way that made me think of me and my brother, I wondered then if they were lovers. Tony then said "I know what you are saying and we've talked about all that." I thought that very mature. Tony then said "Did you and Bill share a bed?" I was a little startled but said "Yes, from very early ages we found ourselves in one or the other's bed and we slept together right up into our teens." I then got bold and asked if they shared a bed and Tony said "Yes we do and we always have, in fact I don't think we have ever spent one night apart." It made me miss the closeness I had with Bill and said "I envy you and if you want to zip your sleeping bags togther that will be fine with me". Tony said "Thanks" and then followed with "Why did Bill stop sleeping with you?" I said "Well he was maturing and getting interested in girls and I suppose that being with them was more interesting to him than being with me." It hit a nerve and I could feel myself welling up. Tony said "Well that shouldn't stop him loving you and wanting to be with you at night." I replied "I guess he found it too confusing." Tears were filling my eyes and they noticed. "Sorry" Tony said as he reached over to hug me. Kevin joined the hug and I couldn't hold back, I sobbed. The boys held me tight and as I calmed down I felt lips kiss my tears from both sides. It was gently and loving and I held on to the boys as we lay on the grass. Nothing was said for ages. I turned to each and kissed their foreheads. I said "I'm so sorry about that, I lost control, I've only ever done that in private before. I guess I'll never get over it. I want to tell you something that must be a secret, Bill and I were lovers as well, our relationship was sexual too." The boys were quiet and I wondered if I had said the right thing. A while later Tony said "I guess, until recently, we didn't really understand what sexual meant we play around a lot and I suppose some of that is what you might call sexual." I said no more but my mind conjured up thoughts of them experimenting and I found myself getting really hard. As we were still in our group embrace I wondered if either could feel it and it made me even harder. I broke the silence and said "I guess its time to go, we still have to collect fire wood". As we stood I caught each of them stealing glances at the front of my shorts. I wasn't sure how much my hard-on showed but I didn't want to draw attention by checking it out. We clambered back along the bank using branches to hold on to. As we got back into the wood we started to collect fire wood. As we did Tony said "I want to to go back there sometime and swim naked." Kevin quickly added, "Me too, that would be fun". I kept quiet believing this to be a private thing. Then Kevin said "Only if you come too Barry." I was thrilled but said, "That's a lovely thought but I'm not sure that you would really want me playing gooseberry." Tony replied, "You wouldn't be, we would want to share it with us." I said, "That's very considerate of you and I am touched." We collected wood and when we could carry no more we headed back to camp. We deposited ours onto the pile and offered our help in preparing dinner. We were each assigned different duties and mine was peeling potatoes, my favourite pastime. As I worked my brother came over to me and asked how I was doing with the brothers. I told him that we were starting to bond and felt that everything would work out well. He smiled and said "I knew you were the right guy for the job, to be honest I'm grateful that their attention will be directed elsewhere, I was beginning to feel that I was their only crutch in life." I replied, "You should be pleased and flattered that they regard you as a trusted figure." He said, "Don't get me wrong, I do, but I had the feeling that their affection for me might be turning into some sort of attraction." I said, "Don't flatter yourself, the poor boys are lonely and have no father figure, it is only natural that they should seek to replace that gap and to be honest Bill, I think you are being selfish. Think how we would have felt if we hadn't had a Dad." He was quiet for a moment and the said, "Sorry, as usual you are absolutely right, but to be totally candid, I didn't want them falling in love with me." I replied "There you go again, thinking of yourself, would it have hurt you if they did fall in love with you? You could still have helped them through even if their love was not reciprocated. Or was it that you were afraid that you might respond to that love and find yourself loving them too?" I was surprised at how bold I had been. Bill was obviously uncomfortable so I stopped my tirade and apologised saying "Sorry, I went too far." He put his arm around me and said, "Its ok, I've been due that ticking off for a number of years, I treated you badly and rebuffed your love because I couldn't cope with it and I am deeply sorry for that." He kissed my forehead and walked away. I didn't know whether I wanted to explode or cry. I looked up and saw that both Kevin and Tony were looking at me and realised that they must have seen the exchange between me and Bill, although I doubted they would have heard anything. Tony came over to me and just said, "Are you ok?" and that was too much for me and I started to fill up. I put down the peeler and went to the tent. A couple of minutes later the boys arrived, they said nothing and just hugged me. I sobbed into them, letting out the pent up emotions that I had bottled for years. Once I had calmed down they both kissed me on the cheek and Tony said "I think I understand now what you were telling us, it would break my heart to lose Kevin and I can see that your heart has been broken. I will always remember this, thanks for allowing us in." I said, "You sweet guys have been my salvation, it is I that should thank you, you have given me the courage to deal with stuff I have buried for years." I kissed each of them on the forehead and suggested that they returned to their chores. A few minutes later I followed. The eveing meal turned out well and eveyone played their part, after there were a few games and a bit of a sing-song around the fire. All of the boys seemed to enjoy it. Kevin and Tony weren't far from my side for the whole evening. The boys retired for bed before the adults, first heading for the toilet/shower block. There was probably a lot of horsing around between them and I quietly prayed that my two were ok and not being intimidated. About an hour later I retired from the fireside. At the tent I found that the boys had zipped their sleeping bags together and were wrapped in each others arms, fast asleep. Their shoulders were bare and I wondered if they were naked, my cock hardened at the sight and thought as I undressed. I lay on my sleeping bag naked and hard and just looked at them. The moonlight was surprisingly bright and penetrated the tent enough that I hadn't needed my torch. I stroked my cock gently as I thought of the many times that my brother and I had enjoyed such intimacy. I felt drowsy so got into my bag, but it was relatively mild so I left it partially unzipped. As I drifted off I looked at my boys and felt the glow of love for them. I do not know what time it was when I stirred but I must have been in a half-sleep. I must have been having an erotic dream (although I couldn't remember ther detail), that much I realised as my cock was throbbing and wet. In my drowsiness my hands went to my groin and I stroked my hardness, it felt wonderful. As my consciousness increased I realised that I was uncovered and opened my eyes to find that I had an audience. My boys were wide awake and staring at my manhood. I pulled the side of the sleeping bag over myself quickly and felt myself blush. I said quietly "I am so sorry about that, I forgot where I was." Tony said "Don't be sorry, we've been watching you for ages and we really liked it." Kevin said "I think your willy is awesome, can I see it some more". I replied, "I think that might get me into trouble. Casual nudity in front of minors is one thing, but I could get into all sorts of trouble if anyone found out that I hade exposed myself to you in an aroused state." Tony said, "We won't tell anyone, after all we know we can trust you not to tell anyone about us." I thought for a while and the eroticism of the moment took over and I pulled aside the sleeping bag to reveal my throbbing member. I looked at my boys as I stroked myself and saw them undo their sleeping bag. They were naked and the first cock I saw was Kevin's it was about 3 inches long and totally hairless, his forskin only half retracted. As they untwined Tony's was revealed, he had about an inch more and it looked like it was a slightly larger replica of his brothers. They were beauties. Tony looked like he had a few hairs sprouting. The sight made my cock throb and I stroked it harder. The boys had grasped each other's cocks and were wanking steadily. I said "You guys are very sexy, I don't know if I'll be able to keep my hands off you." Tony said "We don't want you too, we've always talked about doing sexy stuff with someone older than us. We want you to teach us everything we've heard about. We've only explored sucking each other but don't even know if we're doing that right." I replied, "Show me what you do". Kevin, the younger one, clambered around and put his mouth over his brothers cock and started to suck, it looked a bit clumsy. I said "Spin round Kevin so that Tony can suck you at the same time." He did and Tony's mouth sucked in his younger brother's cock. I said "watch your teeth guys and use your tongues to work over your brother's cock head and under his foreskin." The boys were slurping and sucking and it was highly erotic. It was not long before I said "This is so sexy, I'm going to blow my load soon". They immediately broke apart Tony said "Can we suck you as you do?" I said, "Go for it, but you'd better be quick". I let go of my cock and in a split second two juvenile mouths connected with my cock. The licked and sucked like professionals and I was soon taken to the brink. My cock erupted between them and I felt my spunk spurt out of me in several powerful squirts. Their mouths remained connected to me and I looked down to see their faces covered with my semen. They licked and sucked it off each other whist still taking the time to draw the final drops out of me. They continued with their clean up until all traces of my come were gone. I said "My God that was fantastic, you seem to know what you like." Tony said, "We've been sucking on each other's willy's since were were little kids and one day our Dad caught us at it, he was naked, as he often was, and told us to carry on while he rubbed his big stiff willy. After a while he told us to suck him and as we did he squirted his stuff into our mouths. We really liked it. That only happened a few times before he died and ever since we've wanted to taste a man's stuff again." I said "I'm honoured, and I should return the favour, let me suck you both." They laid together hip to hip. I moved around and knelt over them. Their boy-cock were rigid and hard as rocks and I began sucking them alternately, taking time to lick their balls too. Tony seemed to love that. They began kissing and it was clear how passionately they loved each other. As I sucked and licked their groins my hands and fingers worked between their legs until I found their holes which I fingered in turn, they both seemed to like that a lot. They were both getting pretty worked up and I sucked them hard, young Kevin was the first to shudder with his dry orgasm. Tony soon followed and as he hit his climax I tasted watery semen in my mouth, it wasn't much but it was wonderful. I came up for air and looked down at them, they looked so content. I said "Its still very early, why don't we snuggle down for a while." They nodded and Tony said "Please get in with us". The parted and I lay in between them and we pulled the top of the sleeping bag over us. The cuddled into my sides and I kissed each one in turn, this time on the lips. Theirs wrapped over me and I could feel them stroking my cock and playing with my balls. I said "You've made me very happy guys and I love being sexy with you, but are you ok with this because if we carry on the sex is going to get much more intense and amongst other things I would want to fuck you both. I guess now is the time for you to tell me the limits." Tony said "We want to do everything with you, we've seen guys fucking on the internet and really want to try it. If my Dad was still alive we would have wanted him to do it to us, but he's not and now that we've found you we want it to be you." I said "I'm flattered and I would love to be your tutor, but we have to be very discrete, nobody can know what we do." Tony said "That's ok, you know how private we are anyway." I ran my hands down their backs and gripped a buttock in each hand. The were firm and round. I said, "Maybe we'll be able to duck out of some of the activities and go back to that clearing by the river, it would be a fantastic place to make love." They both agreed. After a short snooze, we agreed to get up, we all needed the toilet anyway. I slipped on a pair of loose shorts and some shoes and the boys followed suit. We grabbed out towels and wash bags and headed for the toilet block, we seemed to be the first up. It felt good being nearly naked as we walked across the field and I wished I had been brave enough to leave the shorts off. I shared my thought with the boys and they both agreed. We were indeed the first there and we each used a toilet before going to the showers. They were simple and open, just two rows of five shower heads facing each other. They weren't that spacious though and I couldn't help thinking that if every shower head was in use there would be very little room for manoevre. We stripped off our shorts and shoes and it felt good to be naked with my boys. It was the first time I could take in their bodies fully and they were quite beautiful. The water was surprisingly warm and we soaped up. They boys couldn't help but touch each other and it reminded me so much of how my brother and I were at that age. I joined in and took charge of washing their bottoms as they were both soaped up I slipped a finger into each hole, they loved it. I massaged their rings and my cock stiffened, I said "You guys have the most perfect arses and I can't wait to be able to get my tongue and my cock into them." Tony said, "Neither can we." We were all fully hard and I suggested that we should cease our pleasures should in case someone else showed up. We separated and rinsed and our cocks started to soften. Others then started to arrive and more bodies joined the showers. It was a feast for the eyes to see these nubile youths naked and cavorting. I noticed a couple of them looking at my cock. My boys had exited and were drying, but I hung back. I saw that a couple of the newcomers were starting to sprout stiffies and my cock started to fill. It didn't go unnoticed, but I thought it was time for a strategic exit. The day's activities went well and I noticed a new confidence in my boys throughout. We had no real opportunity to escape the group during the day but before we knew it it was bed-time and time for the boys to turn in. They all disappeared. My brother sat alongside me by the fire and said, "I've noticed a difference in Kevin and Tony already, what's the secret?" I replied "I don't know really, I've just related to them as if they were adults and shown them that there are people out there who care." He commented "Well it seems to be working, so well done." I thanked him and said that I was turning in. I went to the tent and climbed in, the boys were still awake and Tony said "Will you sleep in our sleeping bag with us." I said, "I'd love to" and stripped off. I slid in between them and felt them wrap themselves around me. Hands were stroking me all over and I felt my cock harden. I cuddled the boys and kissed them gently on the lips in turn. I said "You guys are so lovely, you make me feel really alive and I haven't felt like this for what seems a long time. I love the feeling of your bodies against me, you turn me on so much." They didn't comment but Tony kissed me on the lips, pushing his tongue unto my mouth, We kissed passionately whilst I felt his younger brother slide down inside the sleeping bag and take my cock into his mouth. We broke for breath and I whispered, "Do you know what your baby brother is doing?" Tony said "Yes, he's been talking about it all day to I said that tonight it could be all his as long as I could kiss you as much as I wanted." I replied, "Seems like a good deal to me", and our kissing resumed. Young Kevin was doing a fantastic job on my cock, pushing his tongue under my foreskin and running it around the head. He was licking my balls too at times. He was really good and I had to say, "I'm gonna come soon". Tony scooted down to join his brother and it was only a matter of seconds until I was spurting my come. The lapped and licked me for ages and they were kissing too, obviously sharing my stuff. Eventually they came up for air and we all kissed for ages. I felt the boys drifting off and we snuggled together and slept. It was a wonderful sleep and I eventually woke slowly feeling my boys snuggled to me. I stroked them and thought, I wish they were truly mine, that I was their father. I laid there in the bliss of our embrace savouring it. Slowly they woke and we kissed gently. We were all bursting for a pee and decided to head for the shower block. I put my head out of the tent and nobody was around so I said quietly, "Let's walk there naked" The boys both nodded. We put on our shoes and grabbed our towels and shorts and headed off. We all had stiff dicks. When we were clear of the tents I said "Doesn't this feel wonderful", they both agreed. As we walked on I said "Have you guys ever messed around with pee? They laughed and Tony said , "Yeah, we have pee fights all the time in the bathroom." I said "My brother introduced me to it when we were young, what we call watersports, and I really got into it. Do you think we could mess around a bit before we shower." They both nodded. As we entered the showers I said "Ok guys, I want you to piss on me, all over, I want to be soaked in your piss from head to foot." To their amazement I laid down on the tiled floor and closed my eyes. I felt a hot stram hit me and looked up, it was young Kevin. Then Tony started and they moved their piss jets up and down my body as I massaged it I was in heaven but wanted to taste them so I said "One at a time guys, aim for my mouth, I want to taste your piss. Tony was first and I relished his pee, Keven then did it and his was even sweeter. They started to slow down though so I sat up and brought them to me. I sucked on both their leaking cocks at the same time, until they stopped. I stood up and kissed their mouths, they tasted themselves in me. While were were kissing my cock started to pee and it was Kevin who noticed first. He took my cock and pointed it upwards and my flow was hitting them both under their chins. Kevin was the first to dip his head to get a taste and Tony followed. They smiled as I continued to bathe them as my flow dwindled Tony dropped to his knees and took my cock into his mouth. Kevin joined him and they drank me dry. They stood and we kissed and caressed each other. It was wonderful and erotic. I thought I heard voices so I started the showers we parted and began to wash and our cocks started to subside. It was not long before a couple of other boys came in and my two made a hasty retreat. I hung around though, soaking up the beauties in front of me. They had noticed my semi-hard cock and stared. They were firming up too and I felt my cock rising at the sight. I made a show of soaping myself and washing my now fully hard cock. They copied and one of them, even though he was totally hairless squirted stuff out of his 4 incher. The older one could obvously not hold back either, did the same. I turned toward them and wanked my cock into orgasm and sprayed them both with my spunk. I rinsed and left, saying nothing. Kevin and Tony were at the sinks cleaning their teeth, although they appeared dry they hadn't put their shorts on yet, it pleased me that they were getting more confident. They didn't even bother when a couple of other lads drifted in. I joined then at the sinks and cleaned my teeth and noticed in the mirrors that the other lads were now naked. My eyes drank in the beauty of these youths. The other boys then came out of the shower and began to dry themselves. I said to my two "Well I suppose that we had better put something on before we head back, unlike when we walked here." I had said it deliberately to see the reaction of the other lads and there were raised eyebrows between them. I left it at that and slipped on my shorts, as did my boys. As we walked back I said, "that was fun" and they both giggled.