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craigamore
MemberOvomorph02/20/2012I have been waiting for this movie from this director for 15 years plus and if time travel is part of the plot...so help me, I don't quite know how I'll react. I'll be more disappointed in Ridley than I can honestly express.
Time travel is such an over used, trite concept.....we honestly believe they can't come up with better?
There are so many examples out there, 'Prometheus' would come off a silly, lazy, laughable waste.......I mean, I go straight to 'Sphere' when anyone brings up the idea and while that was a decent novel and the movie was just ok, it's been done.....a small crew investigates an unknown craft, vessel or establishment in a dangerous environment; encounters alien technology and ultimately learns the ship is human and from the future. 'Prometheus' would be 'Sphere', only that what they find would be off world and would somehow transport them........and the whole thing just leaves an awful taste in my mouth; like I've been sucking on pennies or something...eww....
Somebody....please....tell me I'm not off base with my ire and disgust here............[b]PLEASE[/b]
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Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorph02/20/2012I'm in agreement with you craigamore, Damon Lindelof however I think may have written it in....... Ever see any of Lost?
I've always said that it is extremely lazy storytelling, and if it is in Prometheus I'll walk out and demand my money back.
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craigamore
MemberOvomorph02/20/2012Yeah, I thought about 'Lost'.....I just don't think Ridley would go there...it's not him.......and he said it takes place just a few to several decades before 'Alien', so I just don't see it......I'm not really worried about it, I just am so tired of reading people suggesting the idea...
Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorph02/20/2012I know what you mean. If it is indeed included, Hollywood will have failed for all time as far as I'm concerned and I will never go to the cinema or even bother renting anything on DVD again. I'll just read more, I'm sure there are a couple of books I haven't picked up yet...... There has to be.....
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craigamore
MemberOvomorph02/20/2012True...but let's not lose our love of cinema here......there's plenty out there to explore and be pleasantly surprised by...I just hope we're not socked in the gut by something so, so...I keep coming back to [b]LAZY[/b]......
Mala'kak
MemberOvomorph02/20/2012If some time dilation occurs it can be handled the right way, but I really don't want to see them traveling to the past, ancient Earth, or the beginning of time or something similar.
We get to see that part at the beginning of the movie anyway.
We need to have the characters find out about this creation, and somehow try to understand it-- not end up right back there in some copy of 2001's ending. That would be a fail to me.
Robotpo
MemberOvomorph02/20/2012Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "time travel" concept came out of (or was popularized by) my fan-fic which circulated around the internet (the "David as basis for humanity/Vickers as Star Beast" thing). There's never been any indication that Prometheus will actually include any time travel whatever (save for a few quotes and snippits which could mean anything, IE Riddles comment about it being "Back to the Future" in an interview from a while back, which probably was referring to HIS returning to Alien after three decades - although, with Lindelof involved I wouldn't rule it out entirely either).
And BTW...Sphere rocked! (imo anyway) :P Both novel and film were underrated works of sci-fi (could be because I'm a Crichton freak).
TetraDeco
MemberOvomorph02/20/2012[b]RobotPo[/b]
If you [i]are[/i] the author of that entire synopsis then I am relieved many times over!
TetraDeco
MemberOvomorph02/21/2012Well, convince me the time travel plot point is not already played out. Because it seems to me that using time travel is too easy of a plot device that shortcuts to the big ideas.
Gavin
MemberTrilobite02/21/2012I think the whole time travel element came about with the mention of FTL (Faster Than Light) travel, which kick started discussions into the theories of time dilation.
In my opinion the only franchise that has used time travel effectively is the Terminator, any other time it has been used it has either just been a gimmick (Bill & Ted) or simply lame (Sphere, Timecop etc.).
Looking at Ridley's back catalogue of movies it is apparent that whenever he directs something he approaches it from a fresh angle that most directors would avoid (a realistic robin hood, human androids with feelings, a perverted alien stalking the crew of a ship, a realistic re-enactment of actual military combat). So I personally don't see time travel been used in Prometheus.
Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorph02/21/2012@craigamore, I'm trying not to, but the overuse of old ideas and CGI nowadays is starting to grate on me. The last time I went to the cinema was to see The Thing last year (and I kinda wish I hadn't,) the time before that was in 2010 to see Evangelion 2.0 in Japanese :-P oh and once more that year to see Predators, which I actually thought wasn't too bad. Haven't seen it since, maybe that would be worth a rental.......
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Mala'kak
MemberOvomorph02/21/2012From some info I learned through taking a survey asking me about upcoming 2012 movies I can reveal that the Prometheus is the first of its kind craft with FTL capabilities. Not sure if that means we'll be seeing any time dilation, it could just be an explanation for how they get to where they're going so fast.
Mala'kak
MemberOvomorph02/21/2012No prob, there was one site that ran the news at the time last year. I posted in a thread here, AVPgalaxy.net, and Superherohype when I first got the info (looking forward to Avengers almost as much as Prometheus).
Recently I saw an almost matching altered synopsis again so I'm very sure it was true, only now all mention of a start date has been left out.
db
MemberOvomorph02/21/2012@ Snork:
C'mon buddy, we all know that using the sun to slingshot us into time travel was used brilliantly in Star Trek: "Save the Whales"... just like you can spin the earth backward and magically reverse all the film in the projectors in movie theaters world-wide.
db
MemberOvomorph02/21/2012Oh yeah, the word is given.
This subject is officially dead (to me)... moving on.
craigamore
MemberOvomorph02/21/2012And that's the rest of the story...........we can move on.............
aintnozeno
MemberOvomorph02/22/2012I understood RS wanted to use "realistic" , or at least "possible" technologies in this film. That alone says quite a bit, IMO.
That said, I would not have a problem if the Engineers had the capability. Just no human time travel or changed past or futures please. Too much of that already out there.
Famished
MemberOvomorphMar-26-2012 3:01 AMAnd yet, you have a crew that has traveled to a place that would never allow for their return back to their original time. It is what it is. You don't have to call it time travel if you don't want to--technically, it's time dilation, but you also can't ignore that this is the box opened when you start talking about FTL.
Should I assume everyone rejecting this as reality believes the Prometheus is a one way mission? And that isn't silly?
Regardless, I guess I don't consider it lazy, but, if done right, inspired and, dare I say it, intriguing.
Enjoy the movie, folks.
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