Intense violence in some of Scott's films

Intense violence when it adds to the story would be ok if it showed how nasty mean the engineers can/would be. But just to have it in there just to see blood & guts or sex would be bad.....

My point exactly 1darkjedi. RS will not go for cheap-nasty. No way.

I hope we get one or two scenes of blood and guts, or rather I hope we see some visceral death scenes. The kind that get under your skin, and lend the film a dose of realism. Those kinds of scenes, along with good character development are what pull you in to the film, and make you fear whats around the corner, in the next scene. That combination, makes you care for the characters, and makes the prospect of their demise at the hands of the aliens, all the more fearful.

I think u guys forgot the gladiator and black hawk down where the Violence is not overdone but displayed in a realistic way, which made the scences very powerful. both movies are pg-13. so it is not true that all pg-13 movies would be only for young teens.

i'm more of a fan of deep intrigue and the bizarre elements of a possible alien environment and culture than intense violence as it only serves as shock value if it comes out of the blue when least expected. For me the word alien should represent the true meaning, in that your completely at a loss to understand the things you are witnessing, and experiencing. When you experience something unique for the first time your attention is completely held and you rack your brains on a subconscious level to try and associate the feeling with something you can identify with even if its on a basic comparison. That's why the alien film sequels are less impactful because we have familiarised ourselves with the whole concept and over analysed the xenomorph concept. What i hope this film achieves will be to restore the mystery and pose more questions then answers as well as showing us something entirely new and terrifying, and for me that's what will be revealed as perverse in the sense of the truely unusual. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a profound jaw dropping deep sc fi, that's philosophical, terrifying, emotional, moving ,and original. Here's hoping ridley can do the triple and create yet another instant classic and if not a classic then at the very least a damn fine entertaining piece of cinema.

@Rizzle - I'm with you on insidious deaths rather than out and out dismemberment. Something that would 'tear the soul apart' to quote another much lauded film and give you nightmares or at the very least something to mull over for a long time afterwards. @CBT - forgot about Gladiator (not seen Black Hawk Down yet) you're so right and I didn't know that was a PG13, mmmm.....

For me i'm far more impressed with deep intrigue and unique concepts of the perverse /unusually bizarre, as opposed to the shock value of horror. What i hope this film does is to restore the true meaning of the word alien back into our Conscience. The reason the sequels are less impactful for me then the original is because we have familiarised ourselves to the xenomorph concept through over analysis and familiarity ( which is natural for us humans) but what im hoping for is film that poses more questions than answers and introduces us to something we cant fully understand or recognise ...( the unspeakably alien) in anything else we normally associate with on this blue planet. What i really want to see is a deep philosophical epic scfi that recaptures the mystery and excitement that i felt in79 when i experienced the original. So can ridley pull of a triple and make yet another scfi classic at the very least im keeping my fingers crossed we will have a first class highly entertaining sc fi film that will deliver a profound, thought provoking, film that stays long in the memory long after the popcorn has digested and something that inspires as much debate after the event as it has before the release.

What i'm hoping for in this film is a restoration of the true meaning of the word alien in as much that through the sequels we have lost the impact of the original through over analysis of the xenomorph concept and familiarised ourselves to the point that it has lost all of its intrigue. For me im hoping for a return to the unspeakably alien concept where we dont fully understand what we are witnessing and experiencing and therefore pose more questions then answers. I really want to experience the mystery and bizarre perverse world of a unique alien culture/ civilization perverse as in the profoundly unusual. So can ridley pull of a triple feat as in create yet another instant classic to our favourite film genre ? .. fingers crossed he can or at the very least produce a first class film that will leave a great impact on all its viewers and leave a lasting impression in the memory long after the popcorn has digested. What i really hope to see is a profound deep epic scfi that scintillates the senses , fear/ terror, intriguing, alien, humane, exciting, moving, emotional, mysterious, revelatory and satisfying....If a film can tick those boxes then i reckon you got a masterpiece on your hands .

I really hope this film will return to the concept of the truly unspeakably alien. For me the concept of the xenomorph is...(as expected after all this time ) been over analysed/familiarized and debated in popular culture to the point that it no longer has any impact in so much that the concept is no longer alien. What i want from this film is a return to the intriguing bizarre concepts that propelled the original into the public conscience. I'm hoping for a film that explores the notion of a deeply perverse and bizarre alien culture/civilization to the point that you can't really understand fully what your witnessing or experiencing this will drive the intrigue and will hold my attention a lot more then simply titillating us with shock value/gore. So the question is can ridley do the triple and provide us with a profound deep sc fi classic for a third time ? At the very least i'm hoping for a first class entertaining film that will spark debate long after the popcorn has digested and will be retained in the memory long after its general release. What i hope is that the film will be epic , exciting , one that inspires more questions than delivers answers, and has all the elements that make for a terrific film ie profound, bizarre, alien, humane, emotional, terrifying, exhilarating, mysterious, and satisfying . If the film can tick all those boxes then i feel we could have yet another classic added to our favourite genre.

@CBT1979 RE: GLADIATOR & BLACK HAWK DOWN [i]both movies are pg-13. [/i] Both movies are R-rated, hard R. There are harrowing scenes of decapitations in both movies. The violence in both movies are hard-hitting & definitely not shot to please thrill-seekers. The Roman Empire is depicted as a culture of cruelty. Gladiators are meant to be games of death for the folks of Rome. I am sure you have heard of the decadent exploits of Caligula. It's like UFC, only people fight until they are DEAD. With BLACK HAWK, Scott's intention is to draw the parallel between the ancient Roman world & the modern one where such destructive contest of might is still being carried out. Why they think we need violent contests for amusement, for mass control, for whatever reasons, I don't know. The thing about GLADIATOR is that the fight scenes are actually very entertaining to watch. And you cheer & hoot & clap, you become part of the Roman mob Scott is criticizing.

Of course ridley also stated that in reality the things that went on in the gladiatorial arena were far worse then he was able to show and far more harrowing probably referring to the slaughter of Christians along with even worse atrocities . There was a scene where they were going to film Christians being fed to lions but was dropped along with a scene that was story boarded for a fight with a rhino, that would of been good and its a shame it didn't make it into the film due to budget constraints.

i'm with Engr101 on that one. both gladiator and blackhawk down were rated R. without the violence and gore i don't those movies would have been as good.